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I find the whole convention nauseating and awful.

Here’s a nice story. I was going through my iPhone looking for a number and came across the number of the guy I met in rehab two years ago (we’re coming up on the two year anniversary I discovered today). I only talked about him briefly- he was the heroin junkie who had been a mess for like eight years and was lucky to be still alive, and after we got sprung I took him to the store and bought him some clothes and a backpack and some sundries because he was going to move into the homeless shelter, and had no money or family whatsoever. At any rate, I kept touch with him for a while, and he was working construction the last I checked about a year and a half ago. At any rate, I called him up on a lark, and he’s doing great. He’s now manages a bunch of guys at the same firm, and they send him out on projects alone with a crew, he bought a house, and he met a girl and got married and he says she keeps his act in gear.

That made me really happy.

Ok, back to the RNC and the suck.

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  1. 1.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    At any rate, I kept touch with him for a while, and he was working construction the last I checked about a year and a half ago. At any rate, I called him up on a lark, and he’s doing great.

    Best good news.

  3. 3.

    Marc McKenzie

    John, thanks for posting this (your story, I mean). It’s one hell of an inspirational tale, and honestly, it’s most welcome, especially today.

  5. 5.

    Cacti

    “I am the resurrection and the life. He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.”

    -Melania Trump

  6. 6.

    mike in dc

    Yertle the Turtle just basically admitted holding up the SCOTUS pick was 100% political.

  7. 7.

    Burnspbesq

    That beats the crap out of any other story I expect to hear today.

    Fuck, the air in my office suddenly got dusty.

  15. 15.

    Burnspbesq

    “I’m so proud of my beautiful black children, Sasha and Malia.”

    — Melania Trump

  17. 17.

    redshirt

    @shortribs: Not really. As much gruff as I give Cole – and I do, and I enjoy it – he’s obviously a really nice guy and helping out a heroin addict is just one example.

    But as usual, he’s got zero blog management sense.

  18. 18.

    Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill

    So what’s the the schedule tonight at the celebration of hate bukakke, America being the recipient?

  19. 19.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Cacti: Lol! Y’all are mean. Stop picking on Melania. Think of how much she suffers being married to a man with a Possum head!

  22. 22.

    debbie

    Some Republican operative, after pooh-poohing the plagiarism charge, started crowing about how the dress Melania wore had sold out at all of the stores. Doubt this is true, but still enjoying the thought of ammosexuelles dragging those flouncy cuffs through the sausage gravy.

  25. 25.

    Cacti

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Lol! Y’all are mean. Stop picking on Melania. Think of how much she suffers being married to a man with a Possum head!

    She’s already a very polished liar.

    I mean she has to tell that gross, orange-skinned pig that he’s desirable.

  28. 28.

    MomSense

    That’s a wonderful story. I’m sure your kindness made a difference.

    About to drive 3 hours home after a mini reunion with some friends I haven’t seen in 25 years. Turns out 4 out of 7 of us are now wingnuts. I tried to counter some of it respectfully but mostly stuck with dog and kid photos. Fear and anger of the Trump variety is even worse in person. At least they all love animals.

  29. 29.

    hovercraft

    So Tweety and Chuckles say Hillary has no positive message, just like trump. Why di I watch these assholes.

  31. 31.

    SueMack

    Hey y’all! Came out of YEARS of lurking to say:

    “Jesus wept”

    ——Melania Trump

  32. 32.

    lamh36

    So this entire convention is NOT about talking about Trump…but about attacking HRC…got it…not even his wife said good things about him

  34. 34.

    Anoniminous

    “War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.” — Melania Tecumseh Trump

  37. 37.

    Keith P.

    Melania really showed us what a big heart Michelle Obama has and did a good job of softening Barack’s edges.

  38. 38.

    redshirt

    @lamh36: Since the Senate Republicans have decided to ignore their responsibilities in regards the SC, why should Obama follow a recent tradition?

    At this point, he should only brief Clinton. Fuck Trump, and Fuck the Republican Party.

  41. 41.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Baud: The oddest part of that theme is that it was a rhetorical move in a transitory political argument. It wasn’t a reflection of deep ideology or policy. It more or less a way to say nyah, nyah.

  44. 44.

    TS

    @lamh36:

    So this entire convention is NOT about talking about Trump…but about attacking HRC…got it…not even his wife said good things about him

    Too many believe what they hear – the GOP knows there is nothing of value to say about Trump so they just attack his opposition. And the media helps them out with all the airtime that the dems never get.

  47. 47.

    dmsilev

    Ryan is saying the word “Trump” as little as possible.

    Oh, and Mr. Ryan, Democrats talk about ethnicity and such in part because your party and your nominee runs on the principle of “rich white men get everything”. Just FYI.

  51. 51.

    Patricia Kayden

    Ryan must not have heard Rep King’s comments about sub groups or Trump’s anti-Mexican comments.

  53. 53.

    dmsilev

    “Let’s take our fight to our opponents with better ideas”

    Step one: Get some better ideas.

  54. 54.

    mike in dc

    @hovercraft:

    Tweety is long past his sell-by date. Has a man-crush on Trump and Rudy. Dislikes Hillary. Has no original insights into anything. MSNBC, please let his contract expire without renewal. Replace him with someone not white, not male, not over 50.

  56. 56.

    dmsilev

    A conservative from California. Hope you’re enjoying the shit-bacteria at your hotel. And the fact that your party is doing so poorly here that the state is thinking of putting them on the endangered species list and radio-collar-tagging breeding pairs.

  57. 57.

    hovercraft

    I’m not sure how much longer I can last, this shit is boring as hell. For Ryan to be the most exciting guy so far tonight tells you how bad this is.
    Chuckles is self deluding himself into believing that Ryan is the only one who truly could have stopped Trump. Bullshit

  59. 59.

    dmsilev

    @schrodinger’s cat: You missed it; it was about a half an hour ago. It was pretty blah; just “woo, aren’t I great. See you on Thursday.” He’ll probably call in tomorrow with something similar.

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    “Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
    Tochter aus Elysium!
    Wir betreten feuertrunken,
    Himmlische, Dein Heiligtum.
    Deine Zauber binden wieder,
    Was die Mode streng geteilt,
    Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
    Wo Dein sanfter Flügel weilt”

    – Melania Trump

  65. 65.

    Aleta

    High time for the Trump and his campaign to clear Melania’s name and explain she was raised in the same family as Michelle.

  66. 66.

    hovercraft

    @mike in dc:
    The only reason he fell for Obama was his admiration for his writing ability, he’s always dissatisfied with Obama himself, but loves the speeches.
    Tough guys are his true love, because at heart having been raised in a republican household he’s all about the alpha male. Bush, Rudy, Trump, Christie.

  69. 69.

    redshirt

    …and when there was no meat, we ate fowl and when there was no fowl, we ate crawdad and when there was no crawdad to be found, we ate sand.

    — Melania Trump

  71. 71.

    dmsilev

    Christie: “Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.”

  72. 72.

    The Other Chuck

    Orange looks good on you, Christie. BTW, aren’t you still under criminal investigation?

  73. 73.

    Cckids

    @Patricia Kayden:

    @Cacti: Lol! Y’all are mean. Stop picking on Melania. Think of how much she suffers being married to a man with a Possum head

    As bizarre as it is, Trump’s hair is the least offensive part of him. His ego, his personality, virtually EVERYTHING else about him is worse, by orders of magnitude.

  75. 75.

    dmsilev

    Crowd chanting “Lock her up”. What was it we were talking about earlier about incipient fascism?

  76. 76.

    Eric

    Donald Trump is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being ..
    M trump

  79. 79.

    qwerty42

    Just saw your post. Thanks John. Some good news is always welcome. What with all the suck on the teevee.

  82. 82.

    dmsilev

    A reminder: Tonight’s theme is Make America Work Again.

    Christie is now talking about Libya. Again.

  83. 83.

    germy

    G.E. Smith (remember him?) is leading the house band at the RNC. Doing execrable covers of classic rock songs.

  84. 84.

    Keith P.

    Jeez, the Chris Christie is getting the crowd to start chanting “LOCK HER UP!” This is some really sick shit from the party that used to bitch about criminalizing politics while W was in charge

  85. 85.

    Tazj

    @hovercraft: Thanks for watching so I don’t have to. Last night I tuned in for a few minutes and Chris Matthews was just enraptured with Rudy Giuliani and his speech. He said something about how he didn’t know how Giuliani could do it, give a speech like that and not sound hawkish.

    Matthews is absolutely ridiculous, so in love with a person whose done nothing for the country, but enrich himself and rip off thousands of people through his scams. Yes, Hilary Clinton is the real monster for pointing out his lies and rude boorish behavior. It’s obvious they both (he and Todd) suck at their jobs. They never heard of her college plan or plans to improve the ACA or infrastructure spending?

    Thank God for Jarret Hill, those two are buffoons, an embarrassment.

  86. 86.

    The Other Chuck

    Christie giving us a preview of how the trial process would work under the Trump administration.

  87. 87.

    eclare

    Holy shit! Whipping the audience up into a frenzy!

    ETA: so when do the lions come out?

    ETA 2: or do we see if she floats?

  90. 90.

    gwangung

    @redshirt:

    That is a nice story, Cole. Has nothing to do with the RNC, but still great.

    Actually, I think it has everything to do with the RNC.

    The RNC simply think these kind of stories are impossible. Once a drug user, always a drug user. Once scum, always scum. And there’s no use in having social programs because it’s all in the course of an impossible dream. So why waste money?

    The very existence of this man is a thumb in the eye of the modern Republican party.

  91. 91.

    gogol's wife

    Я вас любил. Любовь ещё, быть может,
    В душе моей угасла не совсем.
    Но пусть она вас больше не тревожит.
    Я не хочу печалить вас ничем.

    — Melania Trump

  94. 94.

    dmsilev

    Fuck you Chris Christie. You and your entire authoritarian party, who are taking a close fucking look at mid-1920s Weimar Germany and saying “hey, good example”. Fuck you.

  97. 97.

    Quinerly

    “I’ll give you all I’ve got to give if you say you love me too. I may not have a lot to give but what I’ve got I’ll give to you. I don’t care too much for money for money can’t buy me love.”
    -Melania Trump (an hour before The Donald left Trophy Wife #2)

  98. 98.

    dmsilev

    Should Christie really be attacking Putin, given all the ties his new lord and master has with Putin?

  99. 99.

    gogol's wife

    Жить стало лучше, жить стало веселей.

    — Donald Trump

  101. 101.

    Cacti

    “When Slovenia sends its people here, they’re not sending us their best. They send plagiarists, gold diggers, and some, I assume, are good people.”

    -Cacti

  104. 104.

    germy

    They are now singing the Sweethaven National Anthem:

    Sweet Sweethaven
    God must love us
    We the people
    Love Sweethaven

    Hurray hurray Sweethaven
    Flags are wavin’
    Swept people from the sea
    Safe from democracy
    Sweeter than a melon tree
    Put here for you and me
    Sweethaven

    Sweet Sweethaven
    God must love us
    We the people
    Of Sweethaven
    God must have landed here
    Why else would he strand us here
    Where the air is nice and clear
    Sweethaven even sounds so near
    To Heaven

    God will always bless Sweethaven
    God will always bless Sweethaven
    God will always bless Sweethaven

  106. 106.

    The Other Chuck

    I need to get my passport renewed. If anything happens to Hillary, I am bugging the fuck out of this country.

  110. 110.

    Amit Joshi

    I recognize there are privacy issues for your rehab buddy, but that is such an inspiring story that I’d love to read more, maybe see a picture or two even. And with such a happy ending, maybe he (and his wife) wouldn’t mind!

  111. 111.

    dmsilev

    Christie is flat-out lying here.

    Pretty minor compared to the “kill the bitch” approach that we’re leading up to, but still needs to be said.

  112. 112.

    Elmo

    Open thread! Goody.
    So I flew to El Paso with a summer cold, and now I’m in the hotel hacking up a lung, everything hurts, all my clothes are made of sandpaper and I am pretty sure I have a fever. Meeting tomorrow should be easy, then fly home Thurs all day, and it’s back on the road Monday with a trip to Dallas and then Louisville in the same week.
    Chicago the week following.
    Do I wear gloves? A mask? I’m careful about coughing etc but what’s the modern etiquette here?

  114. 114.

    germy

    @dmsilev: It’s Christie’s way of getting a sly dig at those who denied him the vp spot. He’s his own man, and will attempt a 2020 run. He will again lose the nomination.

  115. 115.

    lamh36

    Does this whole Christie segment, not reminds folks of an ole skool Klan rally? Soon to be followed by a public lynching?

    #RNCinCLE

    Just waiting on someone to say “hang em”

  118. 118.

    NotMax

    Apparently they’re saving burning an effigy until the last night.

    Christie dissecting foreign policy is like listening to Norm Crosby give a talk on linguistics, only infinitely less humorous.

  128. 128.

    Renie

    So how many times did he say Trump vs the amount of times he said Hillary. They got nothing on why they should elect Trump; it’s all anti-Hillary

  130. 130.

    Josie

    @hovercraft: The irony of it is that none of those wimps are true alpha males. All they do is posture and talk big. President Obama is the only alpha male I have seen in the presidency in a long time.

  131. 131.

    Matt McIrvin

    @lamh36: At this point, they may be calculating that Trump is near his ceiling of the electorate–but if they can spread enough FUD about Hillary Clinton, they can make a lot of undecideds and even Democratic leaners vote third-party or just stay home in disgust at what this election has become. And if enough do it, Trump wins.

  135. 135.

    mike in dc

    Marla Maples: “Say nice things about your Dad, Tiff, or he’ll cut us off!”

  138. 138.

    Renie

    I bet there are quite a few bloggers checking to see if trump’s daughter is plagarizing anyone’s words

  139. 139.

    Ajabu

    You put your left foot in, you take your left foot out, you put your left foot in and you shake it all about…

    Melania Trump

  146. 146.

    hovercraft

    @dmsilev:
    Funny how she’s responsible for things that happened after she left state. Tomorrow when he goes on the talk shows someone should ask how many of her staffers or associates have been indicted, and how many of his. Fat piece of hateful corrupt shit. STFU. She will be our next president, while you rot in Trenton with a state full of people who hate you. I should know you lying sack of shit you’re my governor .

  147. 147.

    redshirt

    @gogol’s wife: I’ve watched none of it and will watch none of it. Why bother? You already know what it’s like, what it’s about. I’ve only seen Trump the politician speak on TV once, and even then just for a few minutes. I saw enough. What more is there to see?

  148. 148.

    eclare

    Tiffany does not seem nervous at all. And meow, did she roll her hair on frozen OJ cans? BTW, her mom, Marla, seemed genuine and nice on Dancing with the Stars.

  150. 150.

    lamh36

    @JamesFallows
    I remember seeing Goldwater’s “extremism is no vice” speech as a kid, and G Wallace in 60s.
    2016 is ugliest convent rhetoric I can remember

  152. 152.

    germy

    RawStory headline:

    Ann Coulter: ‘Every woman’ who’s worked at Fox News has dirt on Roger Ailes

  153. 153.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Elmo: Clear or brown?

    There is a folk remedy that I have heard of but never tried. If you have whisk[e]y or brandy, fill a bath with the hootest water you can stand, pour yourself some booze, climb in, sip steadily at the booze until the water is body temperature, then go to bed. Supposedly, you will feel much better in the morning.

  155. 155.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Elmo: Don’t shake hands, take and use hand sanitizer, and beg for sympathy.

    I hope you feel better soon!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  159. 159.

    Splitting Image

    Since Trump is now the official nominee, it seems as good a time as any to quote H.L. Mencken:

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

    Halfway there, folks.

  160. 160.

    NotMax

    Turned around for a moment and inadvertently saw the younger Trump daughter on the screen.

    Why in FSM’s name does anyone that young feel an urgency for Botox injections?

  162. 162.

    Patricia Kayden

    @dmsilev: And that was definitely a lynch mob. Very ugly to watch. Christie is nothing but a bully. He should be under indictment for Bridge-gate. The nerve of him.

  163. 163.

    hovercraft

    @Josie:
    That’s all Rethugs are usually chickenhawks and bullies, they talk tough but cry as soon as you hit back.

  167. 167.

    dmsilev

    I’m not listening to cable; how are the talking heads reacting to Christie’s exhortations against Emmanuel Goldstein Hillary Clinton?

  168. 168.

    rikyrah

    @JamesFallows
    I remember seeing Goldwater’s “extremism is no vice” speech as a kid, and G Wallace in 60s.
    2016 is ugliest convent rhetoric I can remember

  170. 170.

    Miss Bianca

    @Omnes Omnibus: @Elmo: Champagne. Real champagne, y’all. Or so my ex’s ma maintained – might be one of those Grandpa Jones scenarios, tho’: “Does it cure your cold, Grandpa?”/”No, but it makes being sick a whole lot more interesting.”

  171. 171.

    Ernest Pikeman

    I’m getting whiplash. From hate-bullshit to love-bullshit to winery management. This is utterly demented.

  173. 173.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @Elmo: Who else wants to throw a planter at Baby Leroy, after “hearing” your quote in WC Fields’ voice?

  175. 175.

    hovercraft

    Umm not being catty here but someone should have told Tiffany to tone the makeup down, it’s terrible.

  176. 176.

    Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill

    @Elmo:

    Where are you staying here in the People’s Democratic Soc!alist Republic of Louisville? I’ll give you restaurant picks!

  177. 177.

    Patricia Kayden

    @gogol’s wife: It’s awful so I’m watching it through a Leftwinger podcast for their commentary and mockery. So far, so good — the podcast, not the Convention.

  178. 178.

    lamh36

    @HillaryClinton
    If you think Chris Christie can lecture anyone on ethics, we have a bridge to sell you. #RNCinCLE link

  179. 179.

    Miss Bianca

    @germy: Oh, boy…*there’s* a headline that falls with a “splat” like a splash of red wine on a tablecloth.

  180. 180.

    pseudonymous in nc

    If Cole had any smidge of respect left for Christie (and I honestly doubt he did by now) then that kill-the-witch speech will have erased it.

    Oh, it was a ‘stemwinder’ according to Brian Williams. No, it was fucking frothing.

  184. 184.

    patroclus

    “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

    -Melania Trump

  187. 187.

    Burnspbesq

    @Aleta:

    Oh perfect a kangaroo court

    The Kangaroo Anti-Defamation League is on line one, and they are pissed.

  189. 189.

    Baud

    @Patricia Kayden: I know.

    What’s the point of telling people not to get overconfident (which is what Barro said about Dems)? I can understand saying don’t get complacent. But what’s wrong with being overconfident?

  192. 192.

    hovercraft

    @Baud:
    These are the same people who keep telling us that she is a liar and deeply unpopular and will lose to drump, yet she consistently leads him in the polls. I know Barro is one of the more sensible ones but he’s still a republican.

  194. 194.

    redshirt

    @Omnes Omnibus: I believe it. Knowing Finns, they’d add “go to sauna” and I bet that definitely helps.

    Sweating and staying warm and even better, hot, you’re simulating a fever and cooking any virus that is adapted to normal body temp.

    My top secret, never get sick formula, in part — When you first feel yourself getting sick – scratch at the back of the throat, sudden cough or sneeze, stomach rumbling and stumbling – do the following:
    1. Exercise in some way. Sweat.
    2. Gargle mouthwash, inhale your exhale
    3. Sauna. If not available, then hottest shower you can take, interspersed with bursts of super cold shower.
    4. Take a shot of some alcohol you like. Straight up.
    5. Sleep deeply.

  195. 195.

    J R in WV

    @Elmo:

    Doesn’t matter. The alcohol will kill bacteria in your throat, which may help. Plus you will be drunk and fall asleep, and sleep helps you heal.

    Best of luck!

    JOHN:

    Thanks for the good news update! Your rehab buddy seems to have taken off on his own, which is great.

    Keep in touch,
    JR

  197. 197.

    Baud

    @hovercraft: He also still needs to eat, so he needs to keep his employer happy.

    I started up with Twitter again after a long hiatus. John Harwood has gone off the deep end.

  199. 199.

    Renie

    It seems his family members are the only ones who have said positive things about him. Most of the others were anti-Hillary.

  200. 200.

    Patricia Kayden

    If I recall correctly the Trump kids couldn’t even vote for their father because they were too inept to register to vote correctly in NY. Funny that.

  205. 205.

    Mary G

    You’re a good man, Charlie Brown. Happy second anniversary and good to hear about your rehab mate.

  206. 206.

    hovercraft

    Of course Hugh Hewitt thinks tonight has been brilliant and that the “lock her up chants” he’s sure are playing very well at home. Everything has been very very effective.

  208. 208.

    J R in WV

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    My wife’s grandma had a cure called the two-hats cure.

    You put a hat on the footpost of your bedstead, and go to bed with a bottle of brown liquor (mostly Bourbon around here, but Irish or Scotch will do). You drink until you see two hats, stop then and go to sleep. You will be healthy in the morning. [Or dead. My snark addition.]

  209. 209.

    NotMax

    @Elmo

    There is really only one valid answer, and that is: If you are truly sick, especially if you are contagious (or think you may be), stay at home and avoid proximity to people as much as possible.

    There’s a reason that “get some rest” is a standard part of treatment – it allows the body to focus that much more energy into healing. Plus your resistance is impaired and you leave yourself open to others’ contagions.

    Flying while in the throes of a cold or flu is not solely creating added risk for the sufferer, it is being downright ill-mannered and antagonistic to everyone else in the enclosed and poorly ventilated space of the cabin.

  210. 210.

    Zinsky

    As someone coming up on 21 years sober, I say “Good on you”, John. I’m watching Donald Trump Jr. blather away about shit he has no fucking idea about and thinking this dingus would be the manager of the local Hardee’s, if he wasn’t the son of a millionaire. Worthless waste of good oxygen.

  211. 211.

    dexwood

    I mean, really, Trump’s kids are telling us how to live? What our country is? Who we are? JesusfuckingChrist.

  212. 212.

    Hal

    Is this the Trump son who likes to kill endangered animals in Africa? Nice self tanner asshole.

  214. 214.

    C.S.

    @debbie: So he was admitting that Melania buys off the rack? Seems like something that would go over well with the rank and file, but I doubt Donald approves.

  215. 215.

    Felonius Monk

    “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
    Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. ”

    —- Melania Abraham Trump

  218. 218.

    hovercraft

    Good God jr has his fathers hand gestures and that same squishy mouth, it’s frightening.

  219. 219.

    rikyrah

    Exclusive: Trump could seek new law to purge government of Obama appointees
    CLEVELAND | BY EMILY FLITTER

    If he wins the presidency, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump would seek to purge the federal government of officials appointed by Democratic President Barack Obama and could ask Congress to pass legislation making it easier to fire public workers, Trump ally, Chris Christie, said on Tuesday.

    Christie, who is governor of New Jersey and leads Trump’s White House transition team, said the campaign was drawing up a list of federal government employees to fire if Trump defeats Democratic rival Hillary Clinton in the Nov. 8 presidential election.

  222. 222.

    The Other Chuck

    Hey Qusay, you gave the punchline (“The Aristocrats”), you can stop the joke now.

  232. 232.

    Quinerly

    Is it possible to hate Qusay more than the father? He might actually be more dangerous. Never heard him give a speech before.

  233. 233.

    rikyrah

    Ari Ratner
    ‏@amratner
    @AliABCNews ivanka is Michael. Brilliant but she’d kill for her godfather. The two sons are Fredo and sonny. The other daughter is Connie.

  235. 235.

    The Other Chuck

    Gotta hand it to Qusay, the convention just sounded fascist til now, but he’s really giving it his all to provide the look.

  236. 236.

    dexwood

    Hah! A president who won’t use the office as a path to personal enrichment. Holy shit. Go, Junior. You fucking asshole.

  238. 238.

    ? Martin

    @lamh36: Probably a leader of it. It’s right up his alley. Doubt it was all of it though.

    That it took Twitter 2 years is outrageous.

  240. 240.

    J R in WV

    @rikyrah:

    Keep up the good work rikyrah!

    These back-lot Nazis need people keeping an eye on them. There’s a reason we have Civil Service for government employees. It’s to keep assholes like Trump from firing everyone who knows what they’re doing in the government, and replacing them with Republicans who can’t even spell government, much less do it!

    And of course, if Trump pulled this stunt off, he would be hiring people according to how big a kick-back they would be giving him. We’ve had governors like that here, and it doesn’t work very well.

  241. 241.

    hovercraft

    @Baud:
    On what planet is the hall full of rabid republican base delegates a focus group? I guess he’s been watching too many Frank Luntz focus groups if he thinks that room is representative of the general electorate.

  244. 244.

    rikyrah

    – –☺Matt Murphy
    ‏
    Don Jr is a 38 year old punk living in daddy’s pockets.

    Don Jr has no idea what Dodd-Frank actually does

    Don Jr has no idea what he’s talking about

  247. 247.

    donnah

    Yeah, I need a lecture from Trump’s spoiled rich kids about what this country needs. Go fuck yourself, Junior.

    I left the TV on to see what tonight’s offerings from the RNC would be. Surprise! More piles of lies from a greasy-haired rich kid. Honestly, hate for Hillary, we get it. It’s coming out of every mouth at the microphone, fer pete’s sake. No policy plans, just noise.

    The commenters on TV are the worst. Even PBS sucks. David Brooks? gah!

    I’ll be turning this off now. It’s making me crazy.

  249. 249.

    Gelfling 545

    @redshirt: I suspect they’d be quite different in any case, with HRC likely already being more aware of what is going on due to her experience. With Trump they’ll have to start by pointing to countries on a map.

  250. 250.

    rikyrah

    @sahilkapur
    Obama’s approval rating is 56% in last week’s Post/ABC poll. GOP sounding off on a “third Obama term” likely helps Hillary Clinton.

  251. 251.

    patroclus

    “How many roads must a man walk down? Before you can call him a man? The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind.”

    -Melania Trump

  253. 253.

    khead

    @Elmo:

    He caught himself. Meant to say “poured concrete and hung sheet rock”. But he said “poured sheet rock” first. I laughed through the whole sequence from the sheet rock – to the kid saying that Donald listened to the construction workers instead of folks from Harvard – to the driving CATS.

  255. 255.

    lamh36

    For everybody that is saying Melania Trump dropped out of school, that is NOT true. She just released her graduation photo #melaniatrump #melania #donaldtrump #trump #michelleobama #flotus #obama

    link

  257. 257.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @redshirt: Why doesn’t the RNC promise to abolish the DH? It’d be less nonsensical than some of their planks and speeches.

  258. 258.

    The Other Chuck

    Capito has convinced me that we need to open a new coal mine.

    In her fucking back yard.

  259. 259.

    Mary G

    Hillary’s Twitter team is doing a a great job responding to each speaker in real time.

  260. 260.

    lamh36

    @JoyAnnReid 49s50 seconds ago
    Chris Christie just said he would put his record on “honesty, accomplishments and ethics” against Hillary Clinton’s any day. True story.

  261. 261.

    dmsilev

    This convention so far has been about 80% anti-Clinton and maybe 20% pro-Trump. They’ve got nothing except hatred.

  264. 264.

    NotMax

    Don’t you understand, what I’m trying to say?
    And Can’t you feel the fear that I’m feeling today?
    If the button is pushed, there’s no running away
    There’ll be no one to save with the world in a grave
    Take a look around you, boy, it’s bound to scare you, boy
    But you tell me over and over and over again my friend
    Ah, you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destruction

    – M . Trump

  265. 265.

    patroclus

    “I’ll have a blue, blue Christmas without you. I’ll be so blue blue thinking about you. ”

    -Melania Trump

  267. 267.

    Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill

    @Elmo:

    Good location, about 5 blocks from my office.

    Doc Crow’s is within a few blocks, great bar, great raw bar, super fresh (we have a UPS transshipment fish house here, so we get the freshest stuff from both coasts). If you’re aiming high end for steak, there’s Jeff Ruby’s and Eddie Merlot’s within a 4 block walk. Also, there’s a really decent Brazilian steakhouse in the same blocks as Eddie Merlot’s. There’s a Morton’s in my block. Also in my block is a great concept joint with a beautiful bar called Mussels and Burgers. Across the street from that is one of the truly great new hotels, 21C – it has a great contemporary museum, an American fusion restaurant and funky bar.

  272. 272.

    geg6

    @debbie:

    That dress was hideous. Looked like bargain basement polyester dreck. Cheap looking, which fits her profile perfectly. Claims to have been a supermodel, but she wasn’t even close. Said she has a degree in architecture but never made it to the second year in college. Plagiarizes the script for her most important moment in the spotlight. She’s no better than he is.

  273. 273.

    catclub

    @rikyrah: Wow. They are modelling their plans on Turkey. Purges of Judges and teachers.

    One of the things I have suggested to Donald is that we have to immediately ask the Republican Congress to change the civil service laws. Because if they do, it will make it a lot easier to fire those people,” Christie said

  275. 275.

    patroclus

    “This land is your land. This land is my land.
    from California, to the New York Islands
    from the Redwood forests, to the Gulf Stream waters,
    This land was made for you and me.”

    -Melania Trump

  278. 278.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Baud: Unifying Dems might be the direct effect if they see the actual convention, but if it just gets filtered through a lot of media talking heads talking about how forcefully the Republicans raised lingering questions about Hillary’s honesty and trustworthiness (rather than OH MY GOD THEY’RE BATSHIT), it could lead to more of that “I just don’t trust her and I can’t put my finger on why.”

    I don’t know. I think my political instincts might have gotten damaged by living through the Reagan years in a conservative area, and then living through 9/11 and the aftermath. But I always find it hard to believe that hate and fear won’t win. They are powerful drugs.

  280. 280.

    Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill

    @Elmo:

    Lots of bars closeby, too. O’Shea’s (run by a high school classmate) is next door to Doc Crow’s. There are several nice bars and clubs within stumbling distance.

    Also, you got a lot of stuff a short uber ride away in the Nulu district.

    Oh, and Edward Lee (a celebrity chef) has something closeby with a neat menu including gourmet ramen and a funky bar.

  284. 284.

    Donut

    Dear ‘Merica,

    If you can seriously stomach the thought of being Presidented this punk-ass little bitch who was born on third base and thinks he hit a homer, I just can’t. I just can’t do you no more if you vote for this, ‘Merica.

    And don’t even get me started on his fuck-hole idiot son blathering on and on tonight. I think I know which one keeps feeding the hate-group tweets to Pops.

    I have rarely hated, truly despised anyone in my life, but the Trump family is an exception.

    Your pal,
    Donut

  286. 286.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    Is anybody getting a picture of the seats? is the arena packed? I’ve seen some photos of the upper deck seats being empty, but they may be from earlier events in the day…

  287. 287.

    Smiling Mortician

    @dmsilev:

    “Let’s take our fight to our opponents with better ideas”

    This is an awesome misplaced modifier. My apologies if I’m late pointing this out.

  292. 292.

    Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill

    @lamh36:

    Yes, that’s the fucking guy. Milo.

    So how does the Breitbart advertising platform work? I’m inclined to boycott.

  297. 297.

    patroclus

    “And who are you, the proud Lord said
    that I must bow so low?
    Only a cat of a different coat
    that’s all the truth I know
    In a coat of gold or a coat of red
    a lion still has claws
    and mine are long and sharp, my lord
    as long and sharp are yours

    And so he spoke and so he spoke
    the Lord of Castamere
    but now the rains weep o’er his hall
    with no one there to hear
    Yes, now the rains weep o’er his hall
    and not a soul to hear

    -Melania Trump

  298. 298.

    hovercraft

    @lamh36:
    Saw that, I nearly choked on my tea.
    Just visit the Star Ledger’s archives for an indictment of his record.

  301. 301.

    amk

    @Matt McIrvin:

    But I always find it hard to believe that hate and fear won’t win.

    Obviously, fear has won in your case. Election is not some coin toss.

  302. 302.

    Peale

    @Burnspbesq: yep. I was going to go with Orban. Make sure that it will take Democrats 30 years to take back icontrol. In the meantime, start looting the country.

  303. 303.

    dmsilev

    OK, the RNC feed just showed a protestor, I guess, holding up a sign about racism and being swarmed by some Trumpistas who literally swathed her with an American flag.

  305. 305.

    hovercraft

    @GregB:
    Yes they all loved it, speech of the convention. Wondering if dada campaign has all been a set up for Udays run in the future, now that he’s earned himself some stripes by giving a speech.

  306. 306.

    The Other Chuck

    @PaulWartenberg2016: The place was pretty much full when Der Drumpfenführer himself came out. Other times it’s ebbed and flowed. The enthusiasm level in general has not exactly been astronomical — lots of stony faces even during applause lines. Compare to the DNC where they’re likely to raise the roof.

    And whoah … is Carson actually calling liberals devil worshipers? This convention is going to make 1992, maybe even 1964 look tame.

    And the C-SPAN camera shows another code pink infiltrator, booya! (That’s 3 so far I’ve seen)

  307. 307.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    I think PBS has now used all eight black people in the audience in its cutaways from the speakers. I guess they start recycling now.

  308. 308.

    different-church-lady

    300 comments?

    [skips to end of thread without reading comments]

    Well, Cole didn’t mention Bernie or Greenwald, so either someone else mentioned Bernie or it’s the return of a troll.

    [goes back to read comments]

  309. 309.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @redshirt: I don’t know, if I had to answer, I’d say yes. Not that I want it there, but if it happens I can live with it.

    (Speaking of irrational hope, I’m more interested in Montreal getting back in the NL.)

  310. 310.

    Patricia Kayden

    Good on that “No Racism, No Hate” protester! Made my night. That’s a wrap for me and the RNC Convention for tonight.

  312. 312.

    different-church-lady

    @dmsilev:

    OK, the RNC feed just showed a protestor, I guess, holding up a sign about racism and being swarmed by some Trumpistas who literally swathed her with an American flag.

    Oh, how nice! They’ve accepted her as an American!

  313. 313.

    hovercraft

    @dmsilev:
    Well Carson said she wrote a thesis on him, so obviously she worships him, and he worshiped satan, so she will remove god, from America and from our money, unlike drump who believes in god and the second amendment.

  316. 316.

    different-church-lady

    @ThresherK (GPad):

    (Speaking of irrational hope, I’m more interested in Montreal getting back in the NL.)

    Montreal should worry more about getting back into Stanley Cup playoff contention.

  318. 318.

    Lori

    Thank you for sharing that great news about his recovery. And yours! I’m very happy for you both.

  323. 323.

    Jeffro

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Chuck Todd just told me that I shouldn’t be surprised if the DNC has the same level of anti-Trump stuff.

    Nah, it’ll be more like 50/50 or 60/40 at worst. Even better, it’ll have the benefit of being true, as in like backed up by the facts and everything.

    As I told my dad earlier tonight, once (he/they/anyone) begins to understand that for whatever flaws HRC may have, she’s not History’s Greatest Monster, any rationale at all for voting Trump crumbles. Post Dem convention, I suspect HRC will ‘bounce’ up into the 51-53% range and stay there for the next four months. Not exactly genius insight there either, but reassuring.

  324. 324.

    Emma

    For those of you who are thinking of flushing your brains, may I suggest the BBC Proms? Unfortunately there’s almost no video permitted outside the UK but BBC Radio 3 broadcasts them both live and in replay. This afternoon at work I listened to this and tomorrow I will be treating myself to Beethoven’s Missa Solemnis.

  325. 325.

    hovercraft

    Hugh Hewitt with the freudian slip of the night Donald Reagan jr. had the speech of the night, and the Clinton’s can’t compete with the family up on the stage. Posits a skewed polls theory, this election may be a black swan event like brexit, and the polls are just not capturing the country’s true sentiments. The Clinton’s are reeling after the prosecution they’ve endured tonight. I wasn’t aware that this was a trial.

  331. 331.

    Emma

    @debbie: That’s interesting because Ilincic is a very good designer. Both Mrs. Obama and the Duchess of Cambridge wear her clothes. She does have a tendency for flamboyant sleeves, but that’s not it. I think the problem is the fabric. It doesn’t look right under the convention hall lights.

  332. 332.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @hovercraft: . Posits a skewed polls theory, this election may be a black swan event like brexit, and the polls are just not capturing the country’s true sentiments. The Clinton’s are reeling after the prosecution they’ve endured tonight.

    I haven’t seen any reports on ratings. I don’t know what kind of internet afterlife these kinds of things are going to have. If Usay or Quday gave as good a speech as twitter wants me to think, I still have a hard time imagining someone who isn’t watching saying to a friend, “I saw it on line, you’ve got to look it up…”

    (this dancing would actually be less sad if those people were drunk)

  335. 335.

    lamh36

    Alright…RIP Gary Marshall.

    81/82…is a good long life nowadays. I know some folk live to 100, but 81 ain’t nothing to sneeze at.

  336. 336.

    Mary G

    Delegates dancing badly again. Nothing says hip as much as doing the foxtrot to “Love Train.”

  337. 337.

    Peale

    @hovercraft: the fact that every day she’s president will be emotionally painful for him makes me want to vote for her three or four times.

  338. 338.

    gogol's wife

    Trump’s son gave a good speech? Is that really true? Or is this like Sarah Palin?

  339. 339.

    NotMax

    Whichever person’s idea it was to make the main color of the stage and backdrop nuclear bunker gray was off his or her meds.

  340. 340.

    Ferd ofthe Nort

    Andrew Sullivan is reduced to gibbering.
    basically ABDAH! ABDAH! Whaaaaah?
    Worth the review as he progressively goes round the bend. Out and out augering around the bends.

  341. 341.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    people are talking about an actress who is now an avocado farmer giving a speech. I seem to remember Sandra Bullock owns an avocado farm. Apparently, it’s someone less prominent

  345. 345.

    mike in dc

    Still nobody outside the Trump clan has made a truly pro-Trump speech. McConnell and Ryan’s argument was basically “he’ll sign whatever we pass”.

  354. 354.

    lamh36

    @donallogue
    Garry Marshall would always say (and lived by this) “It’s nice to be important, it’s more important to be nice.” RIP Legend

  357. 357.

    lamh36

    @joshtpm 42s42 seconds ago
    Fournier on MSNBC talking about “lock her up” followed by both sides do it.

    Of course he is…smh

  358. 358.

    NotMax

    Why, oh why cannot Tweety be blessed with a bout of laryngitis?

    And Brian Williams is proof positive of what results from pouring salt water taffy into a tailored suit.

  359. 359.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @NotMax:

    And Brian Williams is proof positive of what results from pouring salt water taffy into a tailored suit.

    It is a very nice suit, though.

  362. 362.

    p.a.

    Sounds like if they get through the whole convention without calling for extrajudicial assassinations of Hillary, or any other Dems (or John Roberts!?), the MSM meme will be ‘Repubs pivot to center’.

  364. 364.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I just got home from seeing Helen Mirren in The Audience (Had already seen it three times in three years, but it is so well crafted and acted that it doesn’t get old). Anyhow, it looks like it’ll take me a couple of hours to make my way through all the RNC threads. Was there a “moment” I should know about?

  365. 365.

    hovercraft

    @NotMax:
    Between Tweety and Ron Fournier are both such hacks. Ron says that the DCN will be just as bad as this hatefest because the dems need to drive up his negatives because she is so unpopular. I guess the fact that she’s already ahead won’t influence the tone. We must make sure to say both sides do it. Nevermind that there’s been no policy here except lock her up, and purge the federal government, only Hillary Obama hate.

  367. 367.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Peale: Um…because they’re going to do their damnedest to make sure as few Democrats vote as possible?

    And FTR, Choke Toad aka The Goatee Of Incomprehension is still a moron…

  368. 368.

    dmsilev

    @p.a.: I’m not sure they’ll manage to clear that low bar. Today, Christie essentially called for a lynch mob to drag Clinton away, and at this rate it wouldn’t surprise me for Thursday’s crowd chant to be “kill the bitch”.

    And I’m sure there would _still_ be some in the media who would try to excuse that.

  370. 370.

    hovercraft

    @p.a.:
    Adam had posited that that will come during drumps speech, by then they will be fully primed and ready with the pitchforks.

  372. 372.

    Barbara

    @debbie: Well, I liked it. I wouldn’t wear it because I hate anything around my wrists like that but I thought she looked smashing. Visible zippers up the back have been a “thing” ever since Alber Elbaz began doing it for Lanvin.

  374. 374.

    dmsilev

    @lamh36: Well, I guess that’s one way to distract people from the racism, sexism, and incipient fascism contained in the rest of the speeches.

  377. 377.

    Emma

    @Barbara: My only problem with the dress is the color. White glares under the combination of convention hall and camera lights. But in person it might have been completely different.

  378. 378.

    celticdragonchick

    Coming up on twitter that Trump Jr plagiarized part of his speech from The American Conservative. The Daily Show has it on twitter. Jesus.

  381. 381.

    GregB

    @p.a.:

    The pivot to the center is when they call for a military tribunal before Hillary is drawn and quartered.

    So reasonable.

  382. 382.

    Emma

    @celticdragonchick: Holy Mother of God. For real?

    ETA: never mind. Saw other posts. Is anyone starting to get the feeling that the Mother of Dragons is rooting for Hillary?

  384. 384.

    Suzanne

    I got home from work late, because Mr. Suzanne’s grandfather passed away this afternoon and we are flying out tomorrow for the funeral, so I was trying to get stuff done. I came home to recaps of Uday (or is it Qusay?) and the daughter who isn’t Ivanka who has the weirdest hair I have ever seen. Bar goal.

    Oh, and Ben Carson thinks Hillary hangs out with Lucifer.

  385. 385.

    Redshift

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Was there a “moment” I should know about?

    Ben Carson went off script and called Hillary Clinton a devil worshipper who will take God out of public life and as a result lead to the downfall of the country.

    I wish I was making any of this up.

  386. 386.

    lamh36

    they forgot to cite, I”m sure…but after last night…you would think they’d gov over EVERY speech with a fine tooth comb@Omnes Omnibus: i posted the link to the article

  387. 387.

    karen marie

    @eclare: I tuned in to Christie briefly while he was shrieking that HRC was close friends with someone who killed 400,000 people, and the crowd was shrieking back “guilty!” It makes me worry about party registration records one day being used by Republicans to hunt down Democrats. They are some scary people with no grip on reality.

  390. 390.

    Original Lee

    @schrodinger’s cat: Heaven help me, I stayed in the Taj for a week to attend a conference. The conference was in a completely different hotel, but the rates to stay at that hotel were over the company’s per diem, so … It was sort of like staying at a La Quinta that Dr. Seuss had decorated.

  391. 391.

    Ferd ofthe Nort

    Original policy, Hell they can’t even do original speeches. After last night your would think the speeches would be checked with a fine-tooth comb.

    Melania and now UDAY

  394. 394.

    Feathers

    @Elmo: @Omnes Omnibus: The Best Cold Remedy: Shot of Peppermint Schnapps, followed by chamomile tea chaser. Repeat until no longer needed. Best utilized at home, within falling distance of bed or sofa.

  395. 395.

    MaryRC

    @lamh36: Yes, he was. Apparently it wasn’t so much what he and his cohorts said to her, vile as it was, it was because they targeted a specific person. Now he’s bragging that “censoring” him will get him more followers than ever, but — sorry, bro, you’re no longer on Twitter. If people want to follow you, they’ll have to go to Breitbart and read real articles full of long words and you know they aren’t going to do that. I hope Leslie comes back to Twitter. Good for her for fighting back.

  396. 396.

    Redshift

    Best exchange of the night on MSNBC (about yet another soap opera actor speaking at the convention):

    Brian Williams: You said that with a straight face.

    Rachel Maddow: I haven’t had a straight face since I was sixteen!

  400. 400.

    lamh36

    Apparently, the conservative writer who wrote the article is saying it was not lifted apparently he wrote the speech..but without citing it

    link

    @fvdlfvdl
    It looks like Frank Buckley is implying that he wrote Trump Jr’s speech. Though not saying so explicitly so far.

  401. 401.

    Mary G

    @Suzanne: I said that Tiffany’s hair didn’t fall far from the tree. No way that grew out of her head. She did a pretty good job on the speech, though. I wouldn’t be able to do it.

    Also, Muslims for Trump? There are more than one?

  402. 402.

    redshirt

    And I’m so honored to be here at 400 posts and to help us get to a TBOGG.

    God bless.

    It’s 500 posts. Do you want to make it?

    Donate 10$ to Hillary.

  404. 404.

    celticdragonchick

    My comments with links are languishing in moderation.

    Take my word for it and go google that phrase from vampire Jr’s speech “Elevator to the upper class is stalled on the ground floor”.

  409. 409.

    karen marie

    @rikyrah: Who the fuck will replace all these people? I am starting to think Trump is thinking events in Turkey are something he can replicate here.

  410. 410.

    dmsilev

    @Emma: Do you think Trump’s campaign organization is up to that task? Available evidence suggests not.

  412. 412.

    lamh36

    @redshirt: Am I crazy, Even if Buckley wrote the speech…using his ALREADY printed words without citing it is plagarism…

    Yes?

  415. 415.

    NotMax

    @hovercraft

    Was joking a while back predicting Trump would bring along steaks and literally throw red meat to the crowd.

    Now am not so sure it is a joke anymore.

  416. 416.

    Emma

    @dmsilev: I’m telling you and telling you. This isn’t mere incompetence. They’ve pissed off the Morrigan and she’s come out swinging for Hillary. Chreeeist.

  422. 422.

    dmsilev

    @karen marie: Reminds me of how the civil service was run in the 19th century: Pure patronage, often direct exchange of cash for appointments.

  423. 423.

    celticdragonchick

    @lamh36: Yes. Unless it is from his own book that he owns rights to.

    Since he is presumably writing for somebody else (he is not actually giving the speech) then it is certainly mandatory that sources are mentioned unless you want to make the guy on stage look like an ass.

  429. 429.

    hovercraft

    @amk:
    She disagreed with the content but thought it was delivered well and hit the mark for those who are receptive to the message. He was by far and away the best speaker of the convention so far, even if most of what he said was bullshit. Much like la palin’s speech was impressive.

  430. 430.

    lamh36

    Once again, IOKIYAR

    @jonfavs
    If the Donald Trump Jr. lines weren’t plagiarism because the author gave permission, neither was the Obama riff from Deval, who also did.

  431. 431.

    hovercraft

    mrs. greenspan thought that Christie stole the night with his prosecution of Hillary.

  435. 435.

    Anne Laurie

    New post up top, in case anyone needs one.

    (Don’t worry, this’ll be a TBogg unit by morning regardless.)

  438. 438.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @amk: To go straight to Godwin. Acknowledging that Hitler was good at giving speeches does not mean that one supports the content of the speeches. Reagan was good at it too. Do you want to tell me I bought into Reaganism?

  439. 439.

    karen marie

    @lamh36: The guy whose lines were used was one of the people who wrote the speech. Seems like a poor choice given that the lines were published previously and there was no attribution in the speech.

  440. 440.

    Steve in the ATL

    @redshirt:

    The DH is more likely to be added to the NL than be eliminated from the AL.
    Yes/No?

    DO NOT EVEN JOKE ABOUT THAT

  442. 442.

    celticdragonchick

    @sukabi: Yeah, looks the media is letting this one slide.

    The author wrote that stuff for another publication that paid him and he did own that work anymore. It was unethical to reuse it with attribution. It was still plagiarism.

  444. 444.

    lamh36

    @karen marie: I’d be pissed if I was the Trump camp to have paid this fool to write an original work and instead he possibly recycled shit..smh

  445. 445.

    Matt McIrvin

    @lamh36:

    Alright…RIP Gary Marshall.

    81/82…is a good long life nowadays. I know some folk live to 100, but 81 ain’t nothing to sneeze at.

    For a man, particularly. We break easily.

  448. 448.

    Original Lee

    So since the Rethugs have brought up the whole Duvall Patrick thing again, what Qusay did was closer to that. What Melania did was flat out theft.

  449. 449.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @amk: Oh, go blow bubbles. Saying someone did a good job with a speech is not the same as saying one agrees with or was convicne by the speech. Do you want reporters to report accurately? I do. And capitalize the first letter of my nym in the future. I doubt you are e.e. cummings.

  450. 450.

    Ajabu

    Nothing to say really. Just trying to crank us up to a TBogg.
    Glad you guys are commenting on the shitshow.
    I tried but I just couldn’t…
    I relay on BJ comments.
    Thanks!

  455. 455.

    Original Lee

    A work in progress:

    For the Party that’s lost common sense,
    Donald Trump has selected Mike Pence.
    An asshole so pure
    Searched through mucho manure
    To find a wingnut really quite dense.

  456. 456.

    Anne Laurie

    @lamh36:

    I’d be pissed if I was the Trump camp to have paid this fool to write an original work and instead he possibly recycled shit..smh

    You’re assuming the speechwriter expected to be paid by Trump.

    Lord Short Thumbs showed up looking for me to write him sum gud werds, I’d pull some old phrases I was fond of from the archives my own self. It’s not the Trumpkins care about originality (or the rule of law) — if they did, they wouldn’t be voting for Trump!

  457. 457.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Anne Laurie: .To do any work for Trump, I would need a cashiers check in advance. And even then, I would worry about the suit for not adequately making Trump Huuuge and Klasssssy!

  458. 458.

    Msb

    One day at a time, John. I’m so happy about the success of you and your rehab buddy.

  460. 460.

    PatrickG

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    It is possible to plagiarize oneself.

    Do we really need to trot out intellectual property in order to make justified attacks? Legally, yes, of course you’re right, but this line of attack is downright silly, particularly after Melania Trump’s outright plagiarism. Apples and oranges, yo.

    I mean, come on, feculence abounds! So many targets! Jumping on one-liners (particularly those used in similar contexts, or those with sufficient rhetorical history to be legitimately considered fair use) strikes me as lazy.

  461. 461.

    PatrickG

    Please note that the previous comments, while both sincere, may have been phrased in full recognition that we are nearing a Tbogg unit.

    I felt a duty, what can I say.

  462. 462.

    sukabi

    So, just watched a clip of Melania’s RickRoll juxtaposed to the Astley song. She nailed the cadence. So I’m going going with intentional steal, with a 95% probability that it’s an intentional effort by Melania to stick a fork in this campaign, with 5% trolling the rubes just for fun.

  463. 463.

    Aleta

    I used to glance beyond the stars
    Now I don’t know where we are
    Although I know, we’ve drifted far.
    We all have sorrow.
    But if we are wise
    We know that there’s always tomorrow.
    You can get it if you really want
    But you must try, try and try, try and try
    You’ll succeed at last.
    Every single day
    Every word you say
    Every breath you take
    It’s easy if you try.
    No hell below us.
    Above us only sky.
    This land was made for you and me.
    Oh I get by with a little help from my friends.
    In this great future
    we can’t forget the past.
    Everything’s gonna be alright.
    And if I don’t make it,
    You know my baby will.
    So long, it’s been good to know you.
    -M.T.

  464. 464.

    Suzanne

    @Anne Laurie: Thanks, y’all. It was not unexpected and he was in pain, so we’re relieved that he’s no longer suffering. This has been a crappy year for our family, tho.

  467. 467.

    Paul in KY

    “It doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows” – Melania Trump

  468. 468.

    J R in WV

    Did cummings even use periods after the e’s?

    e.e. cummings = id diesn’t look right to me.

    e e cummings – no caps, no punctuation.

  471. 471.

    Seanly

    @PaulWartenberg2016:

    Yes, great news from John. Good for his friend that he was able to get clean and get back on his feet.

    My brother, his wife, and 5-yo son just left after a long visit. We don’t see each other in person enough. He loved Boise, but it’s nowhere near big enough a big city for his NYC born & bred wife (their current Bay Area residence seems to be acceptable). My house is more organized than ever and it was a great visit. Plus he may be able to join our D&D group via Skype. My nephew had a great time with our young dogs. This has little to do with John’s post other than sometimes things are good.

  474. 474.

    No One You Know

    I dunno If Trump has all the best words, Melania (and why isn’t good old ‘Melanie’ good enough?) could have done without other people’s, amirite?

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