Many thanks for the link to respected commentor Omnes Omnibus, especially since the video includes two of my favorite actors (AT & MT).
Also from Omnes:
I found this at Sam Wang’s joint. It is an app that will show competitive house races within up to 100 miles of your address. Check it out. Places to work on getting out the vote.
As your mom didn’t quite say, If you’ve got enough spare time/energy to panic, you’ve got enough to do some Get-Out-The-Vote gruntwork.
***********
Apart from girding up for the last battle, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the week?
@AlGiordano How much does media bias influence election result? Its the only thing causing me real concern.
— Todd Bruns (@tabruns) September 16, 2016
Great question! Media has 1/10th of the influence of field organizing. Knock on ten doors, beat 100 media reporters! https://t.co/0YKo2k3E85
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) September 16, 2016
@AlGiordano why do you think the MSM is so petrified of asking Trump any substantial question?
— Crooked Butters 2.0 (@ButtersV2) September 16, 2016
I suspect he has more closet allies in the media than they admit. Destroy them by signing up for canvassing. https://t.co/sCYKiQphur
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) September 16, 2016
@AlGiordano How much will Trump underperform polling due to total lack of ground game?
— Shannon (@TheStagmania) September 16, 2016
That's up to you and whether you are really part of this "ground game." https://t.co/D95b6YneJ6
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) September 16, 2016
@AlGiordano which state(s) should we pick to phonebank in your opinion?
— Ashanka Iddya (@aiddya) September 16, 2016
FL, OH, PA, NV and especially close to my heart, NH. https://t.co/k2VJNtNfip
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) September 16, 2016
Mustang Bobby
I knew this day would come.
OzarkHillbilly
Prewparing to endure all the joys of Republican governance in the wake of the Misery state lege veto over ride session:
New Missouri gun law changes the rules, but some restrictions remain
Gov. Nixon slashes spending on schools, roads after Missouri lawmakers enact tax breaks
I might as well live in Texas.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mustang Bobby: “Will you still need me, will you still feed me…”
ETA: Happy b-day bud.
raven
@Mustang Bobby:Synchronicity? I just, and I mean 5 minutes ago, was reading “Behind the Shades Revisited” about Dylan. The chapter I read is about the John Wesley Hardin album and has some interesting criticism of Sgt Pepper. Apparently Dylan really disliked the overproduction of the album and the stripped down nature of JWH may have been a reaction.
rikyrah
Good Morning ?, Everyone ?
Schlemazel
@Mustang Bobby:
Happy birthday!
edit: that was an odd FYWP experience! When I clicked reply there was only your comment when my reply posted it was #6 and tagged as replying to Bill.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: No, Synchronicity was from the Police.
OzarkHillbilly
@Mustang Bobby: Have a happy day.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Schlemazel: I think it’s Mustang Bobby’s b-day, mine’s the day after HRC becomes President.
raven
@Mustang Bobby: Ooops, Happy Birthday! I’m looking at my holiday schedule and trying to figure out what I want to do on my birthday. We’re going to the beach for two weeks on the 14th but now I realize my birthday is the day after the election and the next day is veterans day. Our fine organization does not take Veterans Day off so, if I take leave, I will be off two and a half weeks!
raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Me too! It will be 50 years to the day that I went in the Army!
?BillinGlendaleCA
I linked to the picture of the Milky Way I took at one of our local beaches earlier this week. It was about a 100 mile r/t drive out there and that drive was the first time I didn’t think the old VW would make it home. I’m really starting to think about replacing the car; I bought it new in December of 1985. I’m thinking of getting a used Prius(probably a 2010 or 2011), any of you all have any experience with Prii of that vintage?
Micheline
I live in Florida. I’ve started canvassing last weekend and will continue to do so until election day. One of the problems is that we need volunteers. A lot Democrats who are not political junkies still think Hillary has this in the bag. Other than that we’ve been getting great responses.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Not the day after the election, the day after the inauguration.
raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Ah, well, you could see how excited I got.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: I’ve already asked the kid to take me to ‘Lawry’s the Prime Rib’ for my b-day(it’s right by the hospital she works in).
shomi
Women could not prevent Al Gore from losing. So it’s hopeless.
Read it right here on Ball Juice and this is where all the presidential campaign experts hang out. So it’s just a fact.
raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: All I wanna do is fish.
Schlemazel
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
See my edit – that was very odd
We both are goats then I take it, Mine is a few days before her inauguration.
Phylllis
@Mustang Bobby: Happy birthday!
StringOnAStick
@?BillinGlendaleCA: We were just given a 2007 Prius from my brother in law, and I have to say I really love the car, very solid and nicely made. He took wonderful care of it, and it is a huge step up from the 2000 Corolla we had as our commuting vehicle. It is a bittersweet thing; his oncologist told him yesterday that he’s got maybe a month left. 56 is too young.
raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Uh, I hesitate to point this out because you will probably say. “OH SNARK” but
Mustang Bobby
@raven: Thanks. Take the days anyway… and tight lines!
OzarkHillbilly
Ah yes, Ferguson is the gift that keeps on giving:
…..
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Schlemazel: I’m a water carrier.
Immanentize
@Mustang Bobby: Happy B-Day Bobby! You are an inspiration for all who aspire to be loved at 64.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@StringOnAStick: 56 is too young(I’m currently 56), sorry to hear about your BIL’s diagnosis. I’m looking at the 2010 model year and up since that’s the year they came out with the 3rd generation Prius.
Botsplainer
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I was talking to one of my clients at a mediation yesterday who was fondly recalling my uncle (a sportswriter of some national note); I was reminded that I am the same age (54) he was when he dropped dead of a massive coronary in his driveway after a short morning walk with my aunt.
Schlemazel
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
you and the whole media of this country! :)
gogol's wife
Okay, I watched the video again today. Why don’t they say Vote for Clinton? Is there some regulatory reason? Because just saying “Vote” could mean “Vote Stein.” And I’m sorry, but their affect is pleasing to me but probably not to the broad public.
Kay
Al Giordano is great as a cheerleader but he consistently downplayed how bad 2010 was so I just don’t think he’s credible. Even cheerleaders have to have SOME credibility as to what things look like- it’s almost not fair to ask people to work and not tell them how it actually looks. They’ll do the work anyway. He doesn’t have to blow sunshine up their ass. Turn out is like 2 or 3 points. It’s absolutely worth it but 2 or 3 points isn’t 5 or 7. It can’t be the whole plan.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@gogol’s wife: I think only ads paid for by the campaign can advocate voting for the candidate.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Schlemazel: (Sobs).
OzarkHillbilly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I’ve never seen such an ad so I don’t know, but don’t super pac ads do that?
Kay
Says they need an “enormous mobilization of journalists” . They could put the Clinton email team on it.
Combine the Benghazi team (2+ years) and the email team (18 months) and they might get something accomplished in 50 days, although they really need more time to do any kind of thorough investigation.
That one WaPo reporter is busy with the foundation, but surely there’s more than one?
Montanareddog
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I have a 2010 3g Prius for 5 years. Get 45 mpg on it in urban driving. Never had to replace anything on it except oil and headlight bulbs. Easiest car to drive I have ever had. Smooth too. Only complaint is there is a bit of a blind spot on the lower extremes of the windscreen, esp. on the passenger side. Surprisingly roomy for the size
Kay
Just so we record this for posterity, I have been following whether anyone is investigating Trump’s business interests.
The NYtimes did a piece in August. What is the possible explanation for no follow-up? They raised tons of questions and then zip-nothing- silence.
I can’t come up with any valid reason for why they wouldn’t pursue this. It’s incredibly fertile ground for further inquiry but it was one and done. It’s weird. A lot of this real estate and the records are IN New York City- this is in their backyard, yet it’s one piece in August and never mentioned again. I swear to God it’s like someone got to them. Why would they pursue the Clinton Foundation so doggedly but drop Trump’s business interests?
Kay
The NYTimes describes Trump’s business interests as a “maze of opaque ties” in August and then never returns to it.
Come on. That’s bizarre. What happened? They raise 50 questions with the August piece and then shut the investigation down?
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
No, here in the land of endless political ads, PAC ads often advocate for a specific candidate and they name him/her.
debbie
@Mustang Bobby:
Happy birthday!
Patricia Kayden
@Mustang Bobby: Happy 64th B’Day!
Steeplejack (phone)
@Mustang Bobby:
Happy birthday!
Hope you get nice cards from Vera, Chuck and Dave.
rikyrah
@Mustang Bobby:
Happy Birthday ????
Patricia Kayden
@shomi: Beyoncé wakes up flawless. You wake up angry.
P.S. Perhaps you need to get yourself to a different type of website where no anxiety is ever expressed.
Kenneth Kohl
“Knock on Ten Doors, Beat 100 Media Reporters”
So, Anne, you’re asking us to do two things?
rikyrah
@StringOnAStick:
So sorry about your BIL.
Cancer sucks.
Steeplejack (phone)
@raven:
Fuck Bob Dylan. Fuck him up his stupid ass.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: Politicians aren’t the only ones for sale?
rikyrah
@Kay:
Ask those logical questions, Kay.
Keep on bringing it.
Kay
I hope someone great is doing a book or documentary on birtherism.
It’s central to Trump’s rise and for me it pretty much defines the insane reaction to the first AA President.
I’m afraid it will be treated like a blip, like any one of the stupid things that went on for the last 8 years, and it’s more than that. It was the beginning- it’s like all roads lead back to it. When they wouldn’t denounce it and instead promoted it that’s the exact point they lowered the bar. All bets were off after they bought birtherism.
amk
Women saying FU to donnie dick and his wingnutz ilk in his own backyard.
Kay
@rikyrah:
I see the NYTimes reporters on Twitter and they keep linking to this same piece when challenged on their coverage of Trump. But that piece ran in August and they haven’t done a single follow-up.
The thing even reads like the first part of a series. When I read it I thought “there will be more to this”. What happened? That’s the extent of the investigation? They raise a bunch of questions and never answer them? Did they shut that inquiry down? Why?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Montanareddog: Thanks much.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay:
The media these days only think their job is to “raise questions”, the readers evidently are supposed to come up with answers.
OzarkHillbilly
@Patricia Kayden: That’s not anger, that’s a flawless sense of superiority reinforced by years of meaningless existence.
Kay
@OzarkHillbilly:
I don’t know, but would you expect kid-glove treatment of a 2nd generation NY real estate developer by the NYTimes? They should know more about him than anyone. They’ve been covering him for 30 years. I would think they’d be the go-to for Trump info. Nothing. Nada. They have less coverage than the Washington Post.
During Obama’s run, Chicago journalists were front and center. They had been covering him since he was in the statehouse. They were much tougher on him than national media. It made sense. They knew more.
It’s just weird. It really requires an explanation.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: Something tells me that instead of an explanation, there will be nothing but clouds and shadows.
Applejinx
@Kay: Pretty sure the reason the media is so desperate to get Trump elected (besides them all being millionaires wanting further tax cuts) is this:
If Trump wins, we will be GLUED TO THE NEWS 24/7, watching to see how we are going to die.
I believe The News has figured this out.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Bought isn’t the right word.
They humored and pretended that it was rooted in anything other than pure D RACISM.
Just like this bullshyt of the Alt-right.
They are WHITE SUPREMACISTS -their predecessors HUNG MY PEOPLE FROM TREES.
greennotGreen
@Kay
SATSQ: The Donald hires prostitutes. Just not for sex.
satby
@Mustang Bobby: Happy Birthday!
satby
@StringOnAStick: sorry for such bad news. 56 is too young, I lost my father when he was that age.
Weaselone
@Applejinx:
Eh… I don’t think the media is looking that far ahead. If they were, certain publications would be considering the existential crisis posed by Trump’s election given his views on press freedom and the high probability he will select 3+ Supreme Court justices. They are simply too lazy to do their own grunt work, willing to repeat any scrap of info Trump gives them because he supplies so little, and unwilling to challenge him too much for losing what access to him they have and the page clicks it generates.
satby
@rikyrah: And good morning to you!
I need to go get ready for work. Adjusting to life as a commuter again is hard ?
Patricia Kayden
@StringOnAStick: So sorry to hear about your BIL’s bad news. (( ))
hedgehog mobile
@Mustang Bobby: Happy birthday!
Betty Cracker
@Kay: It really is outrageous that Trump hasn’t faced an absolute media shit-storm over the birther issue. He was all over TV just a few years ago demanding the president’s papers like a South African apartheid goon. It’s was a blatantly racist issue that Trump is on tape lying about repeatedly. However, it looks like Trump’s own childish refusal to admit he was wrong is reviving the issue right now. Megyn Kelly was all over it last night. It’s on the front page of the WaPo and CNN.
OzarkHillbilly
@Betty Cracker: I’d love to read his Hawaiian investigator’s report. I wonder why nobody ever asks for it.
eclare
@Betty Cracker: So glad I now subscribe to the Post rather than the Times.
Betty Cracker
@OzarkHillbilly: Maybe they’re dead?
The GOP candidate for POTUS was implying a hit job just a few years ago. Seems kinda newsworthy to me.
Kay
@rikyrah:
I’ve said this before but a state birth record is all the evidence one needs in a court. That was what was so insane about it w/media. They were acting as if we regularly question state birth records. No, we don’t. Ever. There is no further inquiry other than the state record. Not the “long form”, not interviewing people or looking for the attending physician, not any of that bullshit.
Thousands of times a day, all over the US, that record is accepted without question. Except for Obama. With him they conducted a years-long discussion on the validity of his birth. Fucking incredible. 100% race-based.
shomi
@Patricia Kayden: Do you know of one? Dkos is even worse. If there is one where there are (non-existent) reasonable progressives let me know.
For now I am happy to hang out making fun of the stupidity. But thanks for your very helpful advice. I will keep it in mind or not.
Kay
@rikyrah:
People who work with public records knew it was a joke. During the height of birtherism, I had to call Indiana to get a “duplicate original” birth record. The clerk joked about whether I wanted the “long form”.
It’s a joke. Yet they all took it seriously.
Stan
@OzarkHillbilly: Wait, you can bring a gun into a school in Missouri? Holy crap.
JMG
Sam Wang: “For Democrats, it is a very good thing the election is not today.” That’s his quote this morning, gang. Shomi, don’t bother responding.
This is not a prediction on my part. But we need to admit that right now we are behind, and start acting like it.
Kay
Here’s some inspiration for you-all. This is one of the Trump kids in his new role as National Leader. They’re assuming they’re up for a big promotion. They’ve all adopted this “serious” tone, like we’re supposed to accept this as the natural ascendancy of this horrible family of crooks.
They think they hit the jackpot. The grift will be incredible. Add Rudy and Christie into the mix and they’ll be stacking cash on pallets and shipping it out of DC to off-shore accounts. LOoooW standards. Rock bottom.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
I wonder if the media vow of silence about all this stuff is because of Trump’s well known habit of suing.
MomSense
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I’ve wondered for a long time if RNC and journalists have also been hacked by the Russians and the only reason we don’t know about it is because they are cooperating.
Kay
Here’s some more inspiration. The same GOP that created Trump will be the “check and balance” on Trump in Congress.
We’ve all watched Paul Ryan’s incredible bravery and patriotism? That’s the level of oversight Trump will get. Nada. He’ll roll right over them like he rolled them in the primary, and they’ll beg for more.
Patricia Kayden
@JMG: Agreed. There is no benefit to pretending that everything is fine. Things can get better and the polls can shift again in Secretary Clinton’s favor. No need to despair — just get up and work and donate as much as you can. Yes We Can!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@MomSense: Yes, that too. I mean look what happened to Colin Powel yesterday.
Glidwrith
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I have a 2010 Prius. Bought it used with 35,000 miles on it for 15K for Hertz. It is up to 150,000 miles and never had an issue beyond standard replacements of tires, brakes and struts. Great mileage – I can get about 50 miles/gallon.
Patricia Kayden
@Betty Cracker: This is what I hope keeps happening. Trump has no self control so I know he’ll continue to make stupid comments right up to Election Day. I’m hoping that he makes such an outrageous comment that everyone will have to take notice and it will sink him in the polls once and for all. Really hoping that Secretary Clinton can goad him into doing this at one or all of the debates.
Kay
Raise your hand if you think the upcoming blanket coverage of Trump’s birtherism turns into an opportunity for Donald Trump to lie to millions of people with no pushback of any kind.
I just have no faith they can do this job. I don’t know if I could do it either, but that’s okay, because it’s not my job.
MomSense
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I just don’t find it plausible that Russian hackers are only interested in information on Democratic candidates and party officials. How they use the information may be different.
JMG
@Patricia Kayden: I think the best way for Clinton to goad Trump in the debates is to kind of ignore him. Just keep making positive statements about her own policies and make him lash out first since he cannot stand not being the center of attention. The Michelle Obama “them low, we high” strategy. When, or should I say if, Trump makes policy statements of his own, she should dismiss them with the same genial contempt Biden showed Ryan. But of course, I’m just some guy on the Internet. She will do as she thinks best. If she doesn’t do well, it won’t be for lack of preparation, that much I know.
SenyorDave
Can someone explain why there has been no extensive media examination of this? I remember Juanita Broderick and Kathleen Willey, and their claims were certainly headline news for a while. The headline was from Snopes, and it is real in that this is a suit filed in New York in June, 2016.
Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl
His buddy Jeffrey Epstein was also named, and Epstein, according to Snopes, is a registered sex offender for life.
Epstein likes to tell people that he’s a loner, a man who’s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Epstein has been named in multiple similar lawsuits over the last several years, served 13 months in jail, and is registered as a sex offender for life:
SiubhanDuinne
@Mustang Bobby:
MomSense
@SenyorDave:
See my comment at 77.
MomSense
@Mustang Bobby:
Happy birthday!
Kay
@SenyorDave:
Oh, there will be a LOT coming out on Donald Trump after the election. Widespread panic as they realize they don’t know they first thing about him and they just gave him the nuclear codes. We’ll have to wait until the elaborate sophisticate veneer drops off and raw self-interest comes into play. The worst part is we’ll be depending on the morally and ethically bankrupt GOP to provide “oversight”. Good God.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Kay:
How about; this will truly offend the minorities who’s vote Trump needs.
This whole election reminds me of Brown verses Witmen in 2010 for California Governor- Jerry Brown, carrier politician with media induced bad rep and Meg Whitmen a corporate CEO narcissists and self declared success. She clearly took the white vote but her racism got the Hispanced turned out for Brown in droves.
rikyrah
Should Democrats Be Nervous About the Presidential Election?
by Nancy LeTourneau
September 15, 2016 10:26 AM
In August, the presidential election was looking like a Clinton landslide. This month, the race has tightened and some people are suggesting that Democrats should be nervous. Here’s Ed Kilgore:
Those who have laughed off Donald Trump’s chances while believing his election would represent a turn for the worse in their own lives should be nervous right now.
On the other hand, Sam Wang says otherwise.
My reason for generating the best prediction I can is to reduce the noise of campaign news. I thought it would clear mental space for thinking about policies, or downticket issues…
Because of intense polarization, few voters are movable. The calculation says that Clinton’s win probability is 90%…
Still, the comment section is still peppered with anxious questions about Clinton’s chances. Honestly, some liberals can be total ninnies.
Wang says Clinton’s probability of winning is 90%. The Upshot has it at 76%. FiveThirtyEight says its at 64%. In other words, none of them are saying that Trump has more than a 36% chance of winning. Those are not great odds for him. If this were any other presidential election in recent memory, it would constitute pretty good news for Democrats. But coming off the talk about a landslide, it has some people worried.
Much of that concern comes from the fact that polling in swing states has tightened. So let’s take a look at that. Here is Sam Wang’s latest electoral map.
Kay
@MomSense:
I don’t either. Oh, please they know it’s weird. That’s why the GOP official lied about it and said it included the RNC and then had to walk it back. That was defensive. They know it looks hinky.
rikyrah
One gaffe can make HRC have a bad week compared to the dozens of negative actions and lies that Trump and his surrogates put out in ONE DAY!
when your campaign is trying to clean up Holocaust and birther messes….but she’s having the bad week?
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) September 16, 2016
rikyrah
Don’t let the smoke and mirrors fool you. Trump is birtherism. Always has been. He created, nurtured and fed on it. Still does.
— Ben White (@morningmoneyben) September 16, 2016
Trump needs to say it himself. On camera. And admit he was wrong for trying to delegitimize the country’s first African American President
— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) September 16, 2016
HRC now on Trump birtherism: “He did it again… This man wants to be our next President? When will he stop this ugliness, this bigotry?”
— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) September 16, 2016
He needs to apologize to @POTUS and the Nation.
— Paul Begala (@PaulBegala) September 16, 2016
Kathleen
@Mustang Bobby: Happy Birthday!
jonas
@Applejinx:
Ok, but couldn’t they also just as easily figure that a Hillary victory will also have everyone glued to the news waiting to hear about whatever scandal it is that will definitely, totes 4-shurz Bring Her Down This Time™?
amk
The recent gallup poll sez msm is at its worst ratings ever in terms of trust. Most peeps across the board, from rw to lw, do not believe or trust them. Yet, people here are hand wringing over their ‘influence’. I find it odd.
Betty Cracker
Via ABC:
The fucking arrogance.
Betty Cracker
@amk: Lack of trust does not equal lack of influence. Everyone relies on the mainstream media for information. Even if you never read a major daily or watch a TV news show, the information you get from other sources is dependent at least to some extent on mainstream news sources. Non-journalist citizens don’t have the time, expertise or resources to conduct investigative reporting on their own.
jonas
@rikyrah:
As they say, the press has always graded Trump on a curve. Hillary’s expected to act like a grown up; Trump like a petulant, brain-damaged moron. Hence Trump makes headlines when he *doesn’t* act like an idiot, whereas they’re all over Hillary when she so much as coughs. Of course no-one stops to ask in the first place why one of the two major parties has nominated an utterly unqualified, bigoted buffoon for president.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
and something else “Bothsides do it” now comes back on Trump because the media has their horse race now. It was really clear to me the media was giving Trump a pass since he was self destructing by himself and they didn’t want to be seeing as kicking Trump while he is down. Everything I read says they think Trump’s a useless idiot like the rest of us. Now “Both Sides Do It” demands they have to tear into Trump too.
Kay
Was Trump really going to hold his press conference in his new DC hotel? And they’d all flock to cover it in the hotel that isn’t doing so well?
Ivanka will be selling her shoe line from the White House. It’ll be third world corrupt dictatorship level. Rudy will have an office for War On Terror profiteering. Chris Christie will be selling highway contracts. And Republicans in Congress will be in charge of “oversight”.
MomSense
@Kay:
It looks hinky because it is. I think we should start asking journalists if they are keeping silent on Trump because they have been hacked and are being blackmailed.
hovercraft
@Mustang Bobby:
Happy Birthday To You.
Happy Birthday.
amk
@Betty Cracker:
That’s a dichotomy, isn’t it? If you don’t trust some one, how do you get influenced by them?
jonas
@Betty Cracker:
I bet the HRC campaign is kicking itself for not just sending a spox out to say that there was nothing to see in those emails and they respectfully request that the press not ask any further questions of the candidate herself about this, mkay? That would have closed down the whole thing right there!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
And i@rikyrah:
That and Colin Powel, if Trump can’t get no love from the most prominent Black Republican in the country he an’t getting anyone who’s skin isn’t white as the walls.
MomSense
@jonas:
Yes,the prospect of endless faux Clinton scandals and Clenis misadventures would be just as good for ratings. And I really don’t think the press look forward to the inevitable crackdown on journalists that Trump would bring. Look at the way they are treated by his campaign. He invites crowds against them (Secret Service have escorted Tur to the bus after rallies) and banned journalists from covering him. This is why I think there is something more happening.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
Nobody questions Big Daddy, Betty. The Trumps do what they want, when they want. Just think of them as an organized crime family and it makes a lot more sense.
Elizabelle
@Mustang Bobby: we still need you. Happy Birthday.
MomSense
@amk:
Because the misinformation filters down to people who aren’t paying attention and who discount the quality of I formation. I spend a lot of time on the phones just dealing with what people think they know.
Also the low quality of what is reported can flip the apathy switch in people. If it is too hard to get accurate information or they get the notion that both sides are awful, they just say rhymes with bucket and opt out.
Kay
@MomSense:
Well, we’ll find out if he wins, right? Except I don’t know who will do the reporting, investigation or oversight because it will be the exact same set of people who failed this time, and Trump will have actual state power. Unless Paul Ryan suddenly develops a conscience and a spine we are shit out of luck.
They all still think this is amusing, but this is how it happens. This is literally how nations die. It’s a cascading series of institutional failures. If it all lines up just right it collapses.
OzarkHillbilly
@SiubhanDuinne: clapping
Kathleen
@StringOnAStick: So sorry to hear that.
Doug R
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Here’s a website called Prius Chat
JMG
@Kay: President Trump will be graded on the ultimate curve. Any day without nuclear war and he will be judged as having won the morning. PS: Our institutions have been in failure mode this entire century. An exceptional individual, Obama, stemmed the tide for eight years, but he couldn’t alter that mode.
Kay
Trump is lying about his opposition to Iraq on FOX with no rebuttal. Did anyone check if Ailes was still threatening those journalists, or has he released the hostages?
It’s kind of remarkable we have this absolute corruption sewer operating as a news network, as if no one still knows about it.
Micheline
Even Sam Wang is lowering Hillary’s chances of winning the election. He said that she may still have a chance to win since she’s been ahead of Trump for most of the year, but the high number of undecideds and third party candidates makes the outcome uncertain. I have to admit that I am bit confused about this election where turnout is supposed to be based on 2004, yet the percentage of the white vote has declined. Another thing, in Texas Trump is running ahead of Hillary by 7 pts but he is a point behind. Something is amiss. I am doing my part in GOTV but this is depressing.
hovercraft
@Betty Cracker:
Was it enough when President Obama issued statements saying he was born in Hawaii and released his certificate of birth, was that the end of the story? President Obama was asked on camera many times and answered yes he was born here, was that enough? The state of Hawaii issued statements saying the President was born in Hawaii, was that enough? No it wasn’t. Your fucking asshole of a father was still not satisfied. The state of Hawaii had to invent a bogus “long form birth certificate”, which is against their regulations. And then it took the President of the United States of America pawning your fathers ass in public on national TV to get him to shut the fuck up. So no you piece of shit the ‘statement from the campaign is not enough, it’s not over just because he says it is. We demand that he go on TV to hold a press conference apologizing for the accusation, and to everyone who he offended beginning with the President of the United States of America Barack Hussien Obama. He is a successful two term president, something you will never be Donald Trump. Now everyone get to work, lets do this. NR time for you to post your link again.
ruemara
@Kay: Because whining isn’t a winning strategy. Pessimism doesn’t get people working for you.
Amir Khalid
@Kay:
I have to wonder: if the first African-American were named, say, Cassius Jones, and his parents were both American-born Christians, what might be the equivalent of birtherism that was directed against him?
Botsplainer
@Kay:
Donnie is Rodrigo Borgia, Ivanka is Lucretia and the boys are Cesare and Juan. Don’t know why nobody has figured it out yet.
Kay
Not that it matters, but this is a bullshit construction. It’s not up to douchebag to “believe” or not.
Trump has been sued so many times he plays games with words. It’s an obvious scam and I’m sick of pretending he’s not doing it. It’s not “smart” or “savvy”. It’s what lying scumbags do when they’re challenged.
Betty Cracker
@amk: Because there’s no other source of information. I’ve seen this over and over while canvassing. People don’t trust the mainstream media, but the form opinions based on it regardless, whether they realize it or not. Critiquing the media is an absolutely legitimate activity because democracy depends on a functional media. We’re seeing the results of institutional media failure right now.
Kay
@ruemara:
I disagree. Telling people who work for you what they’re up against is basic respect. Democrats were in trouble in 2010. He pretended they weren’t. That doesn’t inspire confidence.
Botsplainer
@Kay:
There’s a reckless Brexit aspect to this. Low info white parole voting protest and resentment, which is their interest.
low-tech cyclist
@rikyrah: So we’ve got a mere 10% or a 24% or a 36% chance that we’ll experience the moral equivalent of Visigoths sacking our cities.
I’m so comforted.
Guess I may have to get my butt out and knock on some doors. One of those purple districts on Wang’s map isn’t terribly far away.
Hoodie
New art work for your living room. Themes include:
– Donald Trump in outer space with an eagle who stole a flag from somewhere and is gasping for breath because, well, he’s in outer space
– The Statue of Liberty several hundred miles out in the Atlantic Ocean (climate change?)
– The entire western US a charred wasteland (climate change?)
– What looks like a nuclear explosion in North Africa (the sun is already illuminating the US, so that can’t be the sun)
One would tend to conclude that this is a depiction of the end of Trump’s presidency, as he’s sucked the life out this planet and is now moving on to conquer other worlds.
Corner Stone
You are proof that, yes indeed, Black Girl Magic is real.
/HRC
Micheline
@Micheline: How odd, I thought I included the link.Here it is:
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/09/16/is-a-change-in-the-air/
Walker
Al Giordano is wrong on the states to focus on. I have been playing with the maps all morning. In the worst case scenario (assuming loss of Florida and Ohio and a lot of other swing states) it looks like NC is going to decide this. The western states simply do not have enough ECs to make more than a difference than NC.
Major Major Major Major
@Micheline: Sam Wang doesn’t raise or lower chances; his model, which doesn’t change, takes inputs and presents outputs. That said, it’s a good post, thanks for the link, I hadn’t checked PEC yet today.
low-tech cyclist
@SiubhanDuinne: Did you write that? It’s great! My sister turns 64 next April. (And my turn comes the following year.) I’m gonna have to spring this on her, after appropriate modifications to the last couplet.)
Kay
@Botsplainer:
Because they won’t admit that there’s a huge organizational government operating in the background that makes their lives orderly and predictable. They take it for granted that this stuff exists and runs okay most of the time. It doesn’t have to. It was never a guarantee.
I try not to judge because I’m basically sympathetic with low income or less powerful people, but they have to start thinking of the origins of the things they take for granted. I ask people if they’re on Medicaid and they say “I have a Buckeye card”. Buckeye is one of the Medicaid programs. It didn’t land in their wallet from Mars. It was like pulling fucking teeth to get that program. At least recognize it- “I’m on this program, I need it, I know what it is”.
Felonius Monk
@Mustang Bobby: Happy b-day.
Amir Khalid
@Amir Khalid:
Whoops. Sorry, that should be
Miss Bianca
@SiubhanDuinne: @Mustang Bobby: Yay for more poetry from SD! And happy birthday, MB!
It’s my birthday too this weekend! : )
ruemara
@Kay: I’m sorry but he doesn’t tell anyone to not vote and not work. Keeping people from despairing is critical. I’ve completely checked out this election. If you think screaming about the polls would bring me back in, nah.
Major Major Major Major
@Miss Bianca: Happy birthday!
MomSense
@Kay:
I think we are seeing cascading failures in the way this election is being reported. We saw it in the run up to the Iraq war. The birtherism and conspiracy about birth certificates was and is a big deal. Birth certificates are important documents and so much of our ability to travel, work, drive requires that we all recognize them as legitimate. The significance of this Trump smear and conspiracy theory has been completely downplayed.
eric
Read Jarman’s comments below the piece.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/15/1570341/-Daily-Kos-Elections-2016-forecast-Polling-day-from-hell-has-little-effect-on-the-bottom-line
amk
@ruemara: I agree.
hovercraft
@Amir Khalid:
The second phase of birtherism would have still been in play. He’s not qualified, his credentials are fake, no one knew him in school. He is the result of affirmative action so everything he has achieved, which is nothing, he is where he is because of white guilt. He’s a puppet of the Jews and the gangs, both at the same time. Then they would have dug into is past and used his history of drug use, found everyone who ever sold him drugs and paraded their bad deeds as Obama’s fault, to make him out to be a Trojan horse to give the “thugs and gangs” power, and to take over America. They would search his family to find thugs who had criminal records. It’s not hard, it would have been be afraid America be very afraid.
MomSense
@Amir Khalid:
They would come up with another way to delegitimize him.
CaseyL
@Kay: Thank you for putting into words exactly what I’ve been thinking. Even if Hillary wins, she won’t have a Congress she can work with – Congress will be just as obstructionist as it has been for every Democratic President since 1992, and the MSM just as complicit.
The US was really very lucky for a long time, mostly due to a series of historical black swans of the right people being in place at the right time – and staying there, a la FDR’s 12-year Administration followed by 4 years of Truman carrying on his legacy. That’s over, and it was undone in much the same manner, with “Reaganism” in office for 12 years under Ronnie and Bush the Elder.
It’s no fun to experience a historical epoch in person. But it sure is interesting if you’re fascinated by history, by the eternal question of “How could that have happened?”
SiubhanDuinne
@low-tech cyclist:
Thanks, yes. I wrote it two or three years ago for a friend, and have used it several times since, changing only — as you note — the final couplet to personalise it for the recipient.
For your own use in 2018:
:-)
SiubhanDuinne
@Miss Bianca:
Elie
To me its up to Hillary to turn the tone around and momentum. She’s had a hard week or two but she has to want this thing and get after it. This is no different scenario than she would face if elected with the various media and other opponents up in her grill work. Hopefully she can feel it in her gut. Bill can’t help her. Obama can’t help her. She’s got to kill the lion so to speak…
Marjowil
@raven: I thought “America Pie” was about, among other things, Dylan vs. Beatles.
J R in WV
@Mustang Bobby:
Many happy returns, old friend!
Elie
@Mustang Bobby:
Happy bday!
Miss Bianca
@SiubhanDuinne: Danke schoen! You crack me up!
J R in WV
The video networks will tell you how little power they have, claiming they have none at all. They don’t need to be regulated at all, since they’re powerless, completely unable to effect any cause at all.
We know this is true, because no one spends money to pay the video networks to manipulate the opinions of people, to make people do things they otherwise would never do. There are no commercials for things no one needs or wants. No politicians being elected by people they promise to keep under the heel of their shoes.
Obviously TV is paid billions of dollars/pounds/euros etc every year to cause viewers to buy new cars they can’t really afford, clothes that are poorly ade, not protective, and goofy looking. Ineffective cleaning products, like Mr Clean scrubbing blocks, pre-soaped sponges you can’t rinse and reuse but must throw away once they’re dirty. All this junk is sold to people who can’t really afford it, by TV ads.
Politicians can lie about one another, like Trump, and the TV executives tell everyone it doesn’t matter, because no one is controlled by the TV they watch all day long. We know this is the truth because no one is paying TV executives billions of dollars for their services. Right?
So no need to regulate them, it would be like regulating chipmunks.
TV will be the death of our civilization, for money. We’re watching it happen, right now. I had intended to do door-knocking, but my knees are going down-hill so fast it’s scary. So I’m going to try to save them for essential things like grocery runs, and do phone work instead. I can’t do replacement surgery until late next summer. Drat!
Getting old sucks when parts are wearing out. There should be a pill for it! Interesting times, indeed!
Emerald
@Applejinx:
This. Same reason they pushed the Iraq war. War sells da nooz. The bloodier the better.
They confidently expect wars from President Trump.
That’s the reason.
Miss Bianca
@J R in WV: SO, I just emailed the Amendment 69 lady – who has a “Vote for Jill Stein” tag on her email, btw – that I had to devote my energy to the national campaign to get Hillary Clinton elected President.
We’ll wait to see if I get any response.
ChrisGrrr
@SiubhanDuinne: _Phenomenal_ work.