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Hillary Clinton 2016

Changing Public Opinion Open Thread: Hillary Was Right All Along

by Anne Laurie|  September 7, 202212:15 pm| 125 Comments

This post is in: A Woman's Place Is In The House, Hillary Clinton 2016, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

“Was I happy when I beat Donald Trump by nearly 3 million votes but lost the Electoral College? No,” @HillaryClinton tells @NorahODonnell. “Did I ever for a nanosecond think, ‘I’m gonna claim victory and try to get the Democrats to refuse to certify the election’? No.” pic.twitter.com/PtRziziTH8

— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) September 6, 2022

Normal people never hated Hillary Clinton with anywhere near the fervor of Our Media Betters, who didn’t want the person in the Oval Office to be someone who already knew (and didn’t appreciate) all their favorite high-school-clique tactics. The press, in general, adored TFG, because he made their jobs ‘fun’ and easy.

But now it looks — even to the Media Village Idiots — like that guy just might’ve been a liability to our democracy, which would be okay if that didn’t mean the media cheerleaders might get down-rated as well by the fickle viewing public.

Time for a reset! I’ll take it; I’m just glad Clinton gets the chance to say I TOLD YOU SO while she’s still able to enjoy it.

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EXCLUSIVE: @HillaryClinton tells @NorahODonnell she does not plan to run for president again, but did vow to do everything she can to ensure a future president “respects our democracy.” Adding if Trump runs again that Republicans should “grow a backbone.” pic.twitter.com/GMwJ6qMF5Y

— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) September 6, 2022

How easy is it to walk out of the White House with boxes of classified documents? @HillaryClinton weighs in. #FallonTonight pic.twitter.com/Rhm5KQG0xZ

— The Tonight Show (@FallonTonight) September 7, 2022

Transcript pic.twitter.com/p1UnDx8HRt

— KathleenFrances?? (@Kathlee71013772) September 6, 2022

“yayy” so here’s hillary clinton meeting people in venice last week

i will never forgive the media for how they treated hillary. they painted her as a shrew and demanded perfection from her

she won the popular vote despite the vitriol & sexism. she made the impossible possible pic.twitter.com/5YUYHrHYJ0

— diane-jefferson (@dianejeffersonc) September 5, 2022

(I don’t endorse this, but I appreciate it… )

We’ve found Trump’s Special Master. #TrumpStoleTheDocs #ArrestTrump #deadlineWH pic.twitter.com/PPRKnZpTTI

— D (@crazyauntd) September 1, 2022

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They Always Had It In For Her

by John Cole|  October 3, 20191:39 pm| 239 Comments

This post is in: Hillary Clinton 2016

I hate writing these posts because inevitably some blinkered shithead will chime in and call me a Hillary fanboy, which I’m not (a simple search of this archives should sustain that assertion), having been driven to the point of near insanity by her 2007-2008 shenanigans, it’s just in 2016 I felt she was the best choice for Democrats and a far better candidate than Trump. I think I have been proven correct on that belief, too. Regardless, it is simply not my style to shy away when obvious bullshit is occurring and I believe in a basic principle of fairness.

Having said all that, I find it simply astounding that Bernie having a heart procedure is not getting more press. Mistermix mentioning it was the first I had heard of it. There was relatively nothing even on twitter.

Contrast that with Clinton, who spent the entire 2016 election cycle dealing with headlines and frontal assaults over MADEUP health allegations. It was so bad that when she had fucking pneumonia but tried to show up to a 9/11 ceremony anyway, we got days of coverage about how her health was a real concern.

They always had it in for her and she was never going to get a fair shake. The 40 year campaign by Republicans to smear her was embraced by the trotskyite left and the Russian front at the Young Turks and elsewhere, and amplified by our “liberal” media. And that’s just the facts.

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“Righteous” Monsters Russiagate Open Thread: No Violin Tiny Enough, Mr. Comey

by Anne Laurie|  June 16, 20188:12 pm| 124 Comments

This post is in: An Unexamined Scandal, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Russiagate, Woman in the Whitehouse 2016, Women's Rights Are Human Rights, Assholes

I respect the DOJ IG office, which is why I urged them to do this review. The conclusions are reasonable, even though I disagree with some. People of good faith can see an unprecedented situation differently. I pray no Director faces it again. Thanks to IG’s people for hard work.

— James Comey (@Comey) June 14, 2018

I’m sure he really, honestly believes he was acting in good faith, there was nothing else he could do, just following orders, ma’am. Small consolation: His reputation seems to be “everything” to Mr. Comey — and history has never been kind to the “just following orders” defense.

You could've listened to your boss, but she was a woman.
You could've respected protocol, but you wanted to punish a woman.
You could've revealed Trump's campaign was under investigation, but he wasn't a woman.
You could've been held accountable, but then again you're not a woman https://t.co/l47MiTCLtL

— Selena Adera?? (@Selena_Adera) June 14, 2018

According to the testimony of the Attorney General in the IG report, nine days before the election she and the FBI Director discussed how a “deep and visceral hatred of Secretary Clinton” by a cadre of senior NY FBI agents “has put us where we are today” w/r/t the Weiner laptop. pic.twitter.com/Owg69kuAlG

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 16, 2018

Loretta Lynch: Comey’s boss

Sally Yates: Comey’s other boss

Hillary Clinton: Comey’s likely boss

Someone had a problem working for women. https://t.co/gZJp4I6KEG

— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) June 15, 2018

Comey’s constant, unbending public refusal to acknowledge he made *any professional mistakes of any kind* — let alone learn from them — is both a sight to behold and one of the original causes of the mistakes, a total blind spot for his own personal righteousness. https://t.co/wSj1Y5j1tz

— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) June 15, 2018

CNN spent more time covering James Comey's letter about having found some redundant and immaterial emails in October 2016 than the full-time Republican propaganda network. https://t.co/y4O54b12Gf

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) June 16, 2018

That the press headlines out of the IG report aren’t, “Boy howdy, Clinton got screwed” is a pretty good sign how whacked by Trump the current narrative is.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) June 16, 2018

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Like Every Other Pundit, Amy Chozick Will Never Forgive Hillary Clinton for Amy Chozick’s Mistakes

by Anne Laurie|  April 22, 20189:55 am| 205 Comments

This post is in: Books, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?, Our Failed Media Experiment

“Trump understood our gluttonous short attention span better than anyone, but especially better than Hillary, whose media strategy amounted to her ignoring us.” — from Amy Chozick's highly anticipated campaign memoir. https://t.co/k85N3jl96s

— Trip Gabriel (@tripgabriel) April 20, 2018

Press strategy is part of an overall media strategy. And the national print press is part of an overall press strategy. And I’m sure whenever a NYT reporter called the Clinton campaign they got immediate attention. And Hillary never turned her crowd against reporters.

But sure. https://t.co/UADdS72Qkt

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) April 20, 2018

From the excerpts I’ve seen, Chozick’s new “tell entirely too much” book reads scarily like it was written by a teenage girl looking to pick a fight with her stepmother. Selfish beeyotch kept lecturing me about how that new boy ‘couldn’t be trusted’, so of course I *had* to go to the party with him, and now that I’m stumbling home barefoot with a roofie hangover, I want the world to know that it is ALL HER FAULT!

(A sentiment with which, of course, too many of her fellow NYTimes access journalists concur.)

Carlos Lozada, at the Washington Post has a thoughtful review of a thoughtless person book:

Amy Chozick, the lead New York Times reporter on Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign, believes that the news media’s focus on Clinton’s private e-mail server — a story the Times broke and that Chozick would write about extensively — was excessive. She even grew to resent it. Chozick also thinks that reporting on campaign chairman John Podesta’s hacked emails turned journalists into “puppets” of Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, and she struggles to explain why they did it anyway. She contends that sexism played a big role in Clinton’s defeat but also encounters it first-hand among Clinton’s campaign staff. And while she hammers the candidate for having no clear vision for why she sought the presidency, Chozick allows that competence, experience and policy were hardly selling points in 2016, when it “turned out a lot of people just wanted to blow s— up.”

These are some of the revelations and contradictions permeating Chozick’s “Chasing Hillary,” a memoir by turns poignant, insightful and exasperating. It’s a buffet-style book — media criticism here, trail reminscences there, political analysis and assorted recollections from Chozick’s past tossed throughout — and while the portions are tasty, none fully satisfies. In the unending debate over what happened in 2016, and whether journalists contributed to Donald Trump’s victory, Chozick offers plenty of self-recrimination, but she still blames Clinton for not grasping how the game was played…

“Chasing Hillary” offers some searing moments surrounding election night, as when the Clinton team’s data guru grasps that his Florida models were off (Latino turnout lower than expected, white turnout huge in the Panhandle), then turns to campaign manager Robby Mook and says, “But, Robby, if our models were wrong in Florida, they could be wrong everywhere.” Mook eventually delivers the news of impending defeat to Clinton. “I knew it. I knew this would happen to me,” she answers. “They were never going to let me be president.”

The next day, Times reporters consider what they’d missed — and why. “God, I didn’t go to a single Hillary or Trump rally,” a colleague of Chozick’s admits, “and yet, I wrote with such authority.”…

When she felt insecure at work, Chozick would channel Clinton. “I adopted Hillary’s mood,” she recalls. “I went around despondent and aggrieved, pissed off at the world, at my editors, at myself for not being ‘likable enough.’ ” But that’s not the Clinton she wants to remember, Chozick concludes. She wants to remember the Hillary who “tried to hold it all together — her marriage, her daughter, her career, her gender, her country.” The Hillary who taught her about grit, to believe she could excel but also to allow herself to stop striving.

“Hillary taught me all of that,” Chozick writes in her final lines. “So what if she hated me?”

Reading this book, I often had the same question.

People are still writing campaign books that give credit to Trump for being so much better at it than the person who won more votes? Without emphasizing how his racist barnstorm has divided the country and radicalized extremists? The winners really do get to write history.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) April 20, 2018


 
The excerpt the NYTimes chose to highlight did Chozick no favors…

Hi @amychozick! The 1st line (“Things were already looking bad when Chelsea Clinton popped the Champagne”) is false. I would have been happy to tell you that if you’d asked, which you didn’t. Looking forward to the correction once you fact check. Thanks! https://t.co/gqppfDEEW1

— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) April 20, 2018

Following this tweet, @AmyChozick's 1st line was changed to include attribution: "Things were already looking bad when, several people told me, Chelsea Clinton popped the Champagne." https://t.co/fOYtZfxTZO https://t.co/6zXokbKAa1

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) April 20, 2018

“Several people told me” is the media version of Trump’s “Many people have said” — that most pointless of metaphors, a transparent figleaf.

Chozick: "Things were looking bad when Chelsea pulled off her face mask & revealed she was lizard alien."@ChelseaClinton: Yeah, that didn't happen.
Chozick: "Things were looking bad when, several people told me, Chelsea pulled off her face mask & revealed she was lizard alien." https://t.co/5zpcAe0zYZ

— Stephen Robinson (@SER1897) April 20, 2018

Chozick and Haberman are still working off of a 30 year old playbook where they think to make it as women they have to take out the alpha woman.
1. They failed
2. They looked stupid doing it.

— SophieCT (@SophieInCT) April 21, 2018


(Again: I strongly suspect this is very much still the playbook at the NYTimes.)

"I would have done better coverage on Hillary if she'd been more like the perfect Mom I never had!"

– pundits, in their memoirs

— Donna Gratehouse (@DonnaDiva) April 20, 2018

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Credit Where Due Open Thread: Now He Tells Us…

by Anne Laurie|  January 30, 20184:12 am| 57 Comments

This post is in: Hillary Clinton 2016, Open Threads, Assholes, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?, Our Failed Media Experiment

Wow. Jeffrey Toobin says, ‘I regret my role’ in false equivalence coverage of HRC during the 2016 campaign. https://t.co/mRJOkzzlGL Doesn't happen often.

— Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) January 29, 2018

So long as President Trump continues disgracing the Oval Office, thoughtful people will probe their own role in helping him get there.

Such appeared to be the motivation behind a mea culpa issued by CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin on comedian Larry Wilmore’s “Black on the Air” podcast. In a discussion of presidential politics, Wilmore argued that Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2016, was the victim of a “coordinated attack” coming from Republicans. “Benghazi was … the expression of that attack. In fact, what’s his name, was it [former Rep. Jason] Chaffetz who actually kind of agreed that that’s what they were doing, was weakening her as a candidate.” (Wilmore may have been referring to Rep. Kevin McCarthy, who said in 2015, ““Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping.”)…

“And I hold myself somewhat responsible for that,” continued Toobin, a steady presence on CNN since 2002. “I think there was a lot of false equivalence in the 2016 campaign. That every time we said something, pointed out something about Donald Trump — whether it was his business interests, or grab ’em by the p–––y, we felt like, ‘Oh, we gotta, like, talk about — we gotta say something bad about Hillary.’ And I think it led to a sense of false equivalence that was misleading, and I regret my role in doing that.”…

I would really, really like to believe Toobin’s confession was the first sign that the “savvy” journalists are panicking about the ham-handed half-wittery of Trump’s enablers and sidling towards the exits. But I don’t think he spends enough time on what Calvin Trillin calls “the Sabbathday Gasbag circuit” to qualify as a leading indicator, unfortunately.

Jeffrey Toobin may be the only honest man at CNN. Yeah, I said it. https://t.co/g7OQSY0qWg

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) January 29, 2018

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Excellent Read: “Deep in Clinton country, voters stand by their candidate”

by Anne Laurie|  January 27, 20184:31 pm| 112 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Hillary Clinton 2016, Proud to Be A Democrat, Both Sides Do It!

The Washington Post is straight-up trolling the NYTimes here, and it is hilarious:

The pilings of long-gone piers still jut out of the murky Hudson River in New York County, N.Y., reminders of a shipping industry that’s all-but-vanished from the region. There’s almost no manufacturing left in the towering buildings at the southern end of the county where it once thrived. Throughout the area, large warehouses once used for trade have been torn down or repurposed.

You’d be forgiven for assuming that this is the sort of place where Donald Trump would have been successful in the 2016 election. Unless, that is, you know that shipping and manufacturing left New York County a very long time ago. New York County is Manhattan; the warehouses are now art galleries and the skyscrapers where piecemeal manufacturing once took place are now offices and expensive apartments.

Far from backing Trump, Manhattan was one of the most heavily pro-Hillary Clinton counties in the country in 2016, supporting her by a 77-point margin. (In his home county, Trump won only 9.7 percent of the vote; for every 2.6 votes he got, a third-party candidate got one.) We don’t hear much about how Manhattanites have responded to the first year of Trump’s presidency, though, despite how much we’ve heard about how regions central to Trump’s candidacy are still home to people who stand by their choice. There are a lot of reasons for not focusing on the views of people in Manhattan, including that the city is not without a voice in the media and that how it voted was not particularly surprising (compared to the fervent support Trump enjoyed in the Rust Belt).

Nonetheless, we decided to see if voters in Clinton country stood by their candidate one year into Trump’s tenure. We know Trump’s supporters are sticking with him, but are Clinton’s sticking with her? Is Trump convincing any opponents to rally to his cause?

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Six of the eight counties that voted the most overwhelmingly for Clinton run in a line from The Bronx to Petersburg, Va. (The other two counties are San Francisco and Oglala Lakota County, S.D.) On Wednesday of this week, I visited five of those counties and spoke with two dozen people who told me they’d voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I asked them how they felt about Trump and if they stood by their 2016 vote.

With only one exception, they did…

As Trump prepares for his first State of the Union address, the state of Clinton country can be summarized in one word: Hostile.

Finding Clinton voters at each stop was trivial, as you’d expect, but the similarity of the complaints — regardless of race, gender or socioeconomic status — was remarkable. Trump’s policy positions were consistently critiqued — immigration and the tax bill in particular — but his temperament and personality (and his perceived biases) were often mentioned first and more forcefully.

Trump theorized that he would be able to bridge partisan gaps in the country by taking an outsider’s, businessman’s approach to governance. Whether or not voters in the places that voted most heavily for Clinton were ever likely to be swayed is a fair question. Over the course of his first year, Trump hasn’t helped himself at all in that goal…

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Hillary Clinton at CodeCon

by Betty Cracker|  May 31, 20174:59 pm| 295 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016, Open Threads, Politics, Your Place Is In The Resistance

Hillary Clinton just wrapped up an interview at CodeCon. It went sorta like this:

Hillary at #codecon pic.twitter.com/OaKGHzsDny

— Cassandra Centeno (@IamCassandraEsq) May 31, 2017

I didn’t see the whole thing, but here are a few notable excerpts:

Will she run again? “No.”

On her future: “I’m not going anywhere, I have a big stake in what happens with this country. I am very unbroken about what happened because I don’t want it to happen to anyone else. I don’t want it to happen to the values and institutions that we care about in America. I’m going to keep writing and keep supporting people who are on the front lines…”

Democratic strategy going forward: “You’re absolutely right [Democrats] used to leave so many races uncontested, and we’re not going to do that anymore.”

On Russian interference in the election: “The Russians in my opinion could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they had been guided by Americans.”

On who was directing Russian interference: “I’m leaning Trump.”

Here’s the full interview (trigger warning: The intro and outro music is “Roar”):

The interview will launch thousands of dude-bro hot takes to the effect that Clinton should sit down and shut up. Trump may have to invent more genuine frontier gibberish to express the proper levels of outrage. Me? I’m glad she’s laying it all out there. We need her voice.

PS: One amusing detail: In response to a question about how well she knew Trump, Clinton said she went to “his third wedding on a lark” and noted that she sat behind Shaquille O’Neal, so she “didn’t see anything.”

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