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You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / Now Come the Days of Dorito…

Now Come the Days of Dorito…

by Betty Cracker|  November 2, 201612:11 pm| 128 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Open Threads

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…May they be blessed!

chickens-2016

Chickens are like people in that they are constantly angling for power. Ours is a rooster-less flock, but there’s a boss hen and a scapegoat. The former role is transient, whereas the latter appears to be permanent. Boss hens are evidently deposed by coalition.

By my reckoning, we’re on our third boss hen since the formation of the flock: Joan Jett, the largest black hen pictured above, was recently deposed by Dorito, the orange hen. Joan Jett rose to power by deposing Big Foot, not pictured.

Also, it turns out the chickens DO like bananas. Someone had asked about that. Now you know.

Open thread!

ETA: My hubby and I are thinking about moving at some point in the future, and I’m not looking forward to moving the chickens. Maybe we’ll just put “chickens convey to new owner” in the listing? Nah. But I’m not sure how we’ll move them. We have a large dog kennel that we were going to use to round them up when a hurricane threatened, but thank dog we didn’t have to do it. I guess we’ll move them in that. It’ll be fun! Not.

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  1. 1.

    Keith G

    November 2, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    What a neat memory to be the trick-or-treater who got serenaded by Obama

  2. 2.

    LAO

    November 2, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    Boss hens are evidently deposed by coalition.

    I find that to be particularly awesome. I have no idea why, just that it is.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 2, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    Does their diet at all affect the flavour of their eggs? If they ate sufficient quantities of banana, would the eggs take on a slight banana aroma or taste? If you don’t know the answer, are you willing to do the experiment in the interests of scientific progress?

  4. 4.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    November 2, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    @Keith G:

    Beat me to it – here’s the Halloween vid from whitehouse.gov.

    I am just so not ready to say goodbye to this amazing man and his wonderful family.

  5. 5.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    Aspirational policing at my university today:

    To: All Faculty, Staff, and Students

    Subject: Parking Lot L closed today

    Parking Lot L, the Green lot at the southwest corner of the main campus, is closed today. We apologize for any inconvenience.

    The lot is being used as a staging area for security support in preparation of the citywide celebration this evening when the Chicago Cubs win World Series game 7.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 2, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    @Keith G:

    One of the best things about the Obamas is the way they have fully embraced every holiday that comes along.

    Did you see the picture of POTUS reading Where the Wild Things Are on Hallowe’en?

  7. 7.

    CaseyL

    November 2, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    Fascinating! I get a big kick out of watching hens, a rare experience here in the city.

    A house above and behind my townhouse complex kept chickens a few years ago, as I found out one memorable morning. i opened the door to call in the pussycats, and saw a large white hen dart across the lawn. Pretty surreal moment. Since I was also putting peanuts out for squirrels back then, she soon re-appeared on my doorstep with two friends. All lovely ladies: an orange and two whites. They always came by for peanuts, and I always put some out for them. If I were too dilatory about it, the large orange girl (I think she was the Boss) rapped her beak on my storm door, “Hurry up, Human!”

    Some killjoys in the nabe complained about them, I guess because they were pooping on peoples’ porches, and the owner actually moved away, back to the country.

    My cats, BTW, were cautious around them, including Oscar the Might Hunter. These were LARGE BIRDS, which made no sense to their feline brains.

  8. 8.

    Politically Lost

    November 2, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    I have a question that’s been rolling around my brain pan for a couple days that hasn’t been answered by various news reports. So, the FBI supposedly found hundreds of thousands of Hillary’s emails on Weiner’s computer. How is that possible? Unless Huma or Weiner was saving emails to the computer’s hard drive every time they were accessed from the server. I mean does anybody do that? I’m definitely an end computer user and don’t know much about the workings of emails and all that but finding emails on the hard drive just doesn’t make any sense.

  9. 9.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 2, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Aspirational policing

    :-D

  10. 10.

    CaseyL

    November 2, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    My comment is in moderation, FSM knows why. Please release?

  11. 11.

    jl

    November 2, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    Cracker is going to submit some chicken pix for the calendar, right?
    Preferably, a cranky shot.

  12. 12.

    TaMara (HFG)

    November 2, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    Maybe we’ll just put “chickens convey to new owner” in the listing? Nah. But I’m not sure how we’ll move them

    That’s so funny! I was just at the pet store getting Bailey her collar bling and the woman in front of me had the biggest bale of hamster bedding and I joked, “really big rabbit?” And she replied that, no, they just bought a house and the previous owners left the chickens.

    That’s what happens when you buy in a seller’s market, you take what you can get.

  13. 13.

    WarMunchkin

    November 2, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    @Politically Lost: This type of thing can happen if you log in once into a client, it performs a “sync” with the email server, and the cache doesn’t expire.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 12:30 pm

    @Politically Lost: I don’t know doodly-squat about file and data management either, but maybe Abedin used Weiner’s computer once for work once, and her login and email automatically synced if you opened it on that device. You’d think a pervert like Weiner would have figured out how to turn an automatic syncing feature off, but who knows?

  15. 15.

    Miss Bianca

    November 2, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: that is so freaking cute I can hardly stand it.

  16. 16.

    Botsplainer

    November 2, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    Will the Dorito Administration be a step up, or the same cesspool of corruption and incompetence as the Jett Administration?

  17. 17.

    Steeplejack

    November 2, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    My hubby and I are thinking about moving at some point in the future, and I’m not looking forward to moving the chickens. [. . .] I’m not sure how we’ll move them.

    In this glorious day and age, I’m sure there is somebody nearby with a pickup truck outfitted for transporting chickens and other fowls, easily reached via the Internet. Coop-laden trucks involved in minor accidents with subsequent flying birds have been a comedy TV/movie trope for decades. Gotta be based on something.

  18. 18.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    November 2, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    That’s POTUS!

  19. 19.

    Politically Lost

    November 2, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Oh, so you could work offline type of thing…

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    @Steeplejack: If there isn’t, there should be! Hell, that might be a side income stream for us. We have a pickup, and we have the dog kennel…

  21. 21.

    Miss Bianca

    November 2, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: ee-ZACKLY!!

    @Botsplainer: OK, that just made me LOL. Don’t know how either Betty or Dorito will take it.

  22. 22.

    Peale

    November 2, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    @Politically Lost: They did not find 100,000s of Hillary’s e-mails. They found hundreds of thousands of Weiners emails as well as some of Huma’s emails. For all we know, these are messages that Hillary sent to Weiner (which she is allowed to do) or emails that Huma sent to Weiner (which she also is allowed to do.) They may be things that someone forwarded to Weiner, which she didn’t actually send to him. They are not, whatever they are, all of the e-mails send from the server.

  23. 23.

    NR

    November 2, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    To everyone who lost their shit when I mentioned that black turnout was down yesterday:

    Even Obama agrees it’s a problem.

  24. 24.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    @NR: Yay! Stillwell Angel is back!

  25. 25.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 2, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    @NR: Shut the fuck up.

  26. 26.

    Enhanced Voting Techinques

    November 2, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    @Politically Lost: Worth remembering this is the same FBI who tried shutting down a game company because the company did a pen and paper roll playing game titled “Hacker” The FBI doesn’t have the greatest reputation for being tech savy. For all anyone knows these could be Lol Cat gifs that were floating arround between state department workers.

  27. 27.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    November 2, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Or maybe this kind of thing is having an effect.

    Black Mississippi Church Burned And Vandalized With ‘Vote Trump’

  28. 28.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 2, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    @CaseyL: Our previous cat, the wonderful Scully used to demand to be let out to chase our local birds away, just because she could. It was mostly for sport, she never showed much interest in actually catching them. Then one day, she looked out and saw a duck on the lawn. She looked at me as if to say, “I’m good here – no need to let me out thanks”

  29. 29.

    kindness

    November 2, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    When I had chickens (a very long tome ago) they ate anything I gave them. They were dogs with feathers that laid the occasional egg (I had old chickens).

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    @CaseyL:

    in moderation, FSM knows why.

    You called your “pussycats.” FYWP does not care for pussy.

  31. 31.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    @Tilda Swinton’s Bald Cap: Or, you know, GOP-led voter suppression efforts, such as severe curtailment of early voting places and timeframes, ID requirements, etc. Nah, can’t be that.

  32. 32.

    Mike E

    November 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    To everybody feeding the trollz…you know better

  33. 33.

    gvg

    November 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    When my sister and I were house hunting 10 years ago, there was one we ruled out because we got the impression the owners might be tired of goat owning, and leave them to us. No. Sis had a friend who acquired a horse herd with the house. Friend did not know anything about horses and was not pleased but was responsible and became happy with them instead of gifting them away as she had originally planned. this may have been around the time of a long drought and high gas prices made Florida hay and feed sky rocket. people were abandoning horses they couldn’t sell in other peoples fields or just letting them wander away. In turn that caused animal rescue groups a budgeting crisis.

    I thought chickens slept heavily at night and you could go quietly pick them up and put them in pet carriers? Are there chicken tranquilizers available?

  34. 34.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    I is hasing a bad cold. Handed in the keys to the old place, all clean and scrubbed yesterday. Onto phase 3 of moving, unpacking boxes. Boss kitteh was mad at me until yesterday, for putting him in kitteh box and then displacing him from his lair.

  35. 35.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    @CaseyL: Smart cats — I suspect a flock of chickens would be more than a match for a cat.

  36. 36.

    Elizabelle

    November 2, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    Good those chickens got names.

    Otherwise, this could devolve into a call for recipes, easily transportable.

    Did you guys ever see this quiz on Presidential pets? It’s a NY Times link, but fun.

    One president had a pet raccoon named Rebecca. She arrived at the White House as intended dinner from a constituent.

    Personality goes a long way.

  37. 37.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    November 2, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    @Betty Cracker: or that too, but really we all know it’s ’cause everyone hates Hitlery.

  38. 38.

    NR

    November 2, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: You gonna tell Obama to shut the fuck up too? Because he’s the one talking about low black turnout.

  39. 39.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 2, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Some of the Yankee chickens that my old neighbor raised were bigger than my kittehs, and I has giant kittehs.

  40. 40.

    Keith G

    November 2, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    Obama finally uses pointed language as commentary about Comey’s actions.

    We don’t operate on innuendo

  41. 41.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    November 2, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    @CaseyL:

    Pussycats!

  42. 42.

    Politically Lost

    November 2, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    I saw the story last night that an FBI twitter handle that hadn’t been used in over a year suddenly became active and linked to the release of documents about Bill Clinton’s pardoning of Marc Rich. I woke up this morning thinking the FBI is compromised beyond anything I thought possible. They are now a partisan agency and dangerous to the republic.

  43. 43.

    mai naem mobile

    November 2, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: I am going to miss this POTUS soooo much. I am gonna cry when he’s leaving on Marine One.

  44. 44.

    p.a.

    November 2, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: My free range egg supplier feeds his chix cheese puffs (only occasionally; his grandson dropped a bag and the chickens loved ’em). He claims the eggs taste cheesy. I don’t think so, but the yolks are exceptionally orange. Figures my source for (free!) free-range eggs would eff up a healthy egg with yellow dye and trans fats. He recently acquired ducks. I don’t want to know what they’re eating. I don’t notice a difference in the duck eggs except the albumin is thicker; very reluctant to leave the shell.

  45. 45.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    @gvg: We could easily scoop them up at night — that’s an idea. It’s easy enough to catch one during the day, but I suspect if they saw their fellows were being scooped up and placed in a kennel, the ones left might not be so easy to catch. Also, I dread the ruckus in the carrier. I worry that they’ll turn on each other. I guess I could make separate trips to transport them all. (We aren’t planning to move very far away from our present location.) It might come to that.

  46. 46.

    Josie

    November 2, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    @CaseyL: We used to live on a lake, which was home to some ducks and a few geese. One of my cats, a big orange tabby named Bevo, would stalk the larger birds up to a point. Then it would seem to occur to him that he didn’t know what to do with one should he actually catch it. The birds would just give him a sidelong glance and waddle off. This happened all the time. He was not a fast learner.

  47. 47.

    catclub

    November 2, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    @Politically Lost: No, the FBI found hundreds of thousands of emails. They might be Weiner’, they might be Huma Abedin’s. They might all be spam that was collected. Nobody knows. There are probably emails between Huma Abedin and Hillary, because
    Abedin was her chief aide. But since those could also have already been looked at when searching Hillary’s emails, they are likely duplicates of already seen emails. There are probably plenty of emails that are neither to, from, or even cc’ed with Hillary.

  48. 48.

    Elizabelle

    November 2, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    @Keith G: Thank you, but could you warn when you put something up that’s behind a paywall?

    That’s from the WaPost, and I just used a click to read a short story I could have found at a paper I subscribe to.

    Of course, you remind me I have been meaning to reinstate the WaPost sub, to reward them for employing David Farenthold. Sadly, when I think about that, I see the CillizzaShit on their website too, and it makes me remember why I dropped the Post ….

  49. 49.

    raven

    November 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    Ya’ll see this confederate flag fucker that murdered the 2 cops in Iowa?

  50. 50.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    November 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    A little context, found this quote at Booman’s.

    Much was made about the Politico story about black turnout in Florida. I’m not going to use my space to push back or spout talking points, rather to provide context.
    Comparing turnout to 2012 or 2008 is like comparing something to the 96 Bulls. Some things are special, like the historical election of the first black President & his re-election. As a result in 2012, the share of African American & Caribbean voters actually exceeded their voter registration share. That’s not normal, and shouldn’t be expected.

    What I do expect is two things: black vote in Florida to approach its share of registration (13.9) and total diversity to be higher than 12. Both of those things make a HRC win path much cleaner.

  51. 51.

    Bruce K

    November 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    @BGinCHI: The plan itself sounds like a good idea, though I might tweak the phrasing slightly to acknowledge the chance that it might not happen (IE: “celebration in the event that the Cubs win Game 7”).

    It’s good to have a plan for what to do if you win – just so long as you do a little prep for what happens if you lose. (And none of this “Plan B is to make sure Plan A works” horsefeathers either.)

  52. 52.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    @Botsplainer: Regardless, one of the others (the poultry equivalent of McConnell?) will vow to block any initiatives and appointments of President Dorito

  53. 53.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    November 2, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    @Politically Lost:

    I’m on twitter, and it’s shocking really, how corrupt the FBI is, and how the media is simply incapable or unwilling to cover this story, and Trump’s Russian connection. It’s really fucking scary.

  54. 54.

    Elizabelle

    November 2, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Me too.

    Mostly, I am going to be relieved he survived his term amid all the threats and ugliness, and wish him a long, happy and productive life, at least as long as Jimmy Carter’s. Same for Mrs. O.

    And how great is it that Mr. Carter will be around to cast a vote for Hillary next week? Very glad about that.

  55. 55.

    NR

    November 2, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    @Betty Cracker: As I said yesterday, that explains some of the difference but not the whole difference.

  56. 56.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 2, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    @raven: the one with the Trump sign in his yard? Just turning on MSNBC to see if they notice in their top of hour coverage, or if it will be a repeat of the BREAKING NEWS! that old people in FL are voting for Trump.

  57. 57.

    Elizabelle

    November 2, 2016 at 12:58 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: All about access.

    Maybe David Farenthold could make a few calls; show them how it’s done.

    Hosers.

  58. 58.

    Keith G

    November 2, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    Jon Favreau Retweeted
    Greg Sargent ‏@ThePlumLineGS 4h4 hours ago
    This morning @JohnJHarwood is reporting that D, R, and non-partisan private polls all find Clinton lead holding:

    “6 and steady”

  59. 59.

    Josie

    November 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: I have been quietly sympathizing with you, as you clean house and move, all with a bad cold. If it’s the same one I am recovering from, it lasts about two weeks and keeps messing with your mind. You start to feel better and then, boom, you are suffering again. Be sure to get enough rest and drink lots of water. Hope you can recover quickly and enjoy your new abode.

  60. 60.

    Kay

    November 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    Katy Tur ‏@KatyTurNBC 25m25 minutes ago
    “She’ll be in court for her entire tenure.” Trump on Clinton

    Thanks, FBI!

    I can’t tell you how happy I am about paying the salaries of the Right wing political operatives in the FBI.

    It’s good we found out that’s what they’ve been doing on the clock over there, I guess.

  61. 61.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    @NR: I don’t give a shit what you said about black turnout yesterday. I am completely uninterested in your take on black turnout today. In fact, I think it’s safe to say that nothing you will ever say about any political topic will interest me — ever. But if you have any tips on poultry transportation, please feel free to share!

  62. 62.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    November 2, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    @catclub: Pffft, I wouldn’t trust what they say AT ALL. At this point you have to wonder if the FBI put those emails there.

  63. 63.

    dr. luba

    November 2, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    @Politically Lost:

    I mean does anybody do that?

    I still download my e-mail to my computer. Although I am rarely without an internet connection any more, when I travel I can go days without. So all my accounts are set up as POP rather than IMAP (and I have four I am using).

    It’s much easier to search my own mail, which I’ve winnowed, than to check four different web mail accounts.

    Yeah, I could dump several older accounts, but GMail doesn’t let me do mass mailings, which I do occasionally, and I have accounts on line under various email addresses which I would have to go and change. Too much work.

  64. 64.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    November 2, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    @LAO:

    Boss hens are evidently deposed by coalition.

    I find that to be particularly awesome. I have no idea why, just that it is.

    I do as well! Of course initially I puzzled over why anyone would need a coalition of counsel to question a chicken. Then I figured out the context and it’s awesome.

  65. 65.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    November 2, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    @Kay: I suspect Trump will be in court her entire tenure as well. New tape recording out with Trump consorting with known mob figure.

  66. 66.

    Kay

    November 2, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    If this is all engineered by the Rudy/Trumpster faction in the NY FBI don’t we know enough to put them all on paid leave until after Tuesday? How many can that faction contain?

    They’re obviously planning on leaking something every 15 minutes. There’s nothing anyone can do about this? That’s scary all by itself. Are they like a lawless faction? Fucking ridiculous.

  67. 67.

    Elliott

    November 2, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Get all the chickens at night and put them in boxes. Move them the next morning. If your new place is far away, well, who knows.

    The chicken fanciers send their prize chickens to chicken contests by US Mail, so it can be done.

  68. 68.

    jl

    November 2, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    @Kay: Cracker could take her chickens up there and turn them loose on the bums.

  69. 69.

    Miss Bianca

    November 2, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Of course initially I puzzled over why anyone would need a coalition of counsel to question a chicken.

    The grand jury has been convened on that whole “crossing the road” thing.

    ETA: LOL – “The Man Comes Around” just came on – maybe the Father Hen is going to be calling his chickens home!

  70. 70.

    Steeplejack

    November 2, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    @Politically Lost:

    Some of this is from memory, but it’s close enough for blog blowharding.

    It’s not outlandish to have thousands of e-mails on one’s computer. Some e-mail clients, such as Outlook, allow you to specify whether to keep the e-mails on the server or download them to your computer (and erase them from the server). I have done it the latter way at different times and have had clients who preferred it that way. One guy traveled a lot on business to places with patchy or unreliable on-line access (this was some years back), and he was always dealing with complicated business e-mail, some of which required him to reference other e-mails going back months or even years. It was more convenient for him to have them all on his computer and be able to work off line or on the airplane (before in-flight wi-fi). Then, when he did get connected to the Internet, Outlook would blast out all the accumulated messages in his Send folder.

    Also, some organizations’ e-mail systems can be slow and cumbersome, so some users decide to download the e-mail to their computer so they have to interact with the cumbersome system only when they’re sending messages or getting new messages, not every time they want to read an existing message.

    I don’t know about Abedin’s specific situation. It could be some combination of the above and/or her just not knowing/caring exactly how her system was set up.

    At the risk of getting into the Abedin-bashing zone, my question through all of this has been: Why, oh, why was she ever sharing a computer with her husband?! Even in ordinary business, most professionals such as lawyers or business bigwigs would probably want to keep sensitive information as secure as possible and separate from ordinary household stuff. It’s not that they don’t trust their spouses, it’s just good business practice. And that goes in spades for government work!

    Abedin’s husband was a known loose cannon and nutbar. Why she wouldn’t just give him some money and tell him to get his own laptop (and never let her ever see what’s on it) is beyond me.

  71. 71.

    NR

    November 2, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    @Betty Cracker: There you go making it all about me again.

    President Obama is talking about low black turnout. Maybe you should pay attention to his take on the issue.

  72. 72.

    Juice Box

    November 2, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    Put the birds in a closed box. If it’s dark, they won’t do anything but sleep. You can also move them after dark. Same thing.

    My mom had a pet chicken, Gertrude, as a child. My grandfather’s job required frequent moves so for an upcoming move, my grandmother canned Gertrude. It was traumatic for my mother, but it was during WWII.

  73. 73.

    Keith G

    November 2, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    @Kay: Maybe I am too sanguine about that, but I think that such activities would only drive the GOP deeper into the blind canyon that they are already in. There is a rather large cohort of younger voters who might be up for grabs in subsequent elections. Mega-shithead behavior on the part of the GOP combined with a wiser operating Hillary, could make things better for the good guys.

  74. 74.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    November 2, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    @Kay:

    Why can’t Obama make Comey take control of this situation? I guess I don’t understand how Comey isn’t fired on the spot for allowing this to go on?

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    November 2, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    @Kay: I agree.

    Put them on paid leave immediately, with a statement that the Department is under investigation, and bear in mind that some innocent staffers may have been swept up in the suspensions.

    Get those miscreants out of there, and end their careers if it can be proven they were the leakers or leak enablers.

    I truly think Hillary should clean house at the FBI, and damn the Village wankers if they howler monkey. Actually, I’d make a good note of which Village wankers are complaining the loudest. This “we won’t report stuff, cuz access!” has to stop.

    It’s in the interest of the safety and security of the US and its citizens. Cannot afford to have whack job wingnuts at the FBI.

    Can you imagine how tired the good and professional agents are of dealing with the wingnuts? There is not much in the wingnut mindset that makes one a good critical thinker or thorough investigator.

  76. 76.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    November 2, 2016 at 1:13 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: Made my day, that video did. And that kid can watch superman knock POTUS over for his whole life. That’s POTUS – as if anyone didn’t think the kid knew.

    @Botsplainer: That’s really funny. You me and Miss Bianca to laugh. I’m the tougher room to work, I think.

  77. 77.

    The Golux

    November 2, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    @WarMunchkin:

    @Politically Lost: This type of thing can happen if you log in once into a client, it performs a “sync” with the email server, and the cache doesn’t expire.

    Another way is if you use an email client like Thunderbird or Outlook, which download the emails onto your computer, where they remain unless deleted. I suspect that’s the way the emails were stored on Weiner’s computer.

  78. 78.

    gvg

    November 2, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I googled how to move pet chickens and there are a lot of good tips. cat carriers with shavings or filing boxes cardboard from office depot or such. handles are some ventilation but more may be needed, don’t leave in sun because cardboard is an insulator, put spacers between boxes for air flow maybe move at night or use a horse van with windows open. water bottles and or watery food like melons…..interesting. didn’t seem to be much of a problem with fear but lots of heat concern and air flow tips.

  79. 79.

    Botsplainer

    November 2, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Shit, I just had one of those hipster coffee shop moments ago when getting an after lunch treat and coffee. Woman in early 30s in front of me that I was totally into turned and gave me the thunderbolt look and smile before exiting my life forever.

    swoon

    She could have said “follow me out, we’re going to play now”, and I would…

  80. 80.

    raven

    November 2, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    @gvg: Frickin chicasee is a good way!

  81. 81.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    November 2, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    The teenage girl says the past few days have left her feeling “confused.”

    “I was having self esteem issues when this whole thing started with Anthony Weiner,” the teenager said. “Now as a result of my frailty, this could take down the United States presidential election. I mean, come on, who’s in charge of America?”

    Buzzfeed Link

  82. 82.

    hovercraft

    November 2, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    And when you say all, you mean all. Nowruz to Diwali, all celebrations and faiths have been welcomed and celebrated.
    There is one that has been notably excluded, where is the celebration of the Pastafarian Goddess? When will the Day of the Flying Spaghetti Monster be celebrated?
    Seriously, seeing the Thriller dance, Bollywood dancers, all the musical concerts celebrating the great diversity of the our country, has made me feel that this is truly our country, all of ours.

  83. 83.

    chopper

    November 2, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    NR only knows about chicken fucking, unfortunately.

  84. 84.

    Kay

    November 2, 2016 at 1:21 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    It’s particularly baffling because the whole moral argument of these people is Clinton thinks she’s “above the law”
    This from an organization with what appears to be a nutty Right wing faction furiously politicking and leaking that no one can control. I was shocked when I read the basis of their investigation into the Clinton Foundation is the Breitbart book, “Clinton Cash”. The NYTimes just casually slipped that into the 5th paragraph. Whoa there! Explain, please!

  85. 85.

    Shell

    November 2, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    I think Id even vote for Dorito over Trump.

  86. 86.

    Steeplejack

    November 2, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    If you “hover” over a hyperlink a submenu will pop up showing you exactly where it’s going.

    On an iPad or other tablet (or cell phone) you hover by pressing and holding the hyperlink. That brings up the submenu and does not send you to the link (unless you explicitly decide to go there).

    On computer browsers, the destination address (usually) shows up in a status line at the bottom of the browser when you hover the mouse over the link.

  87. 87.

    Betty Cracker

    November 2, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    @NR: Instead of whining about turnout and predicting doom and woe, I’m helping the Democrats in Florida GOTV so we can win. In fact, I’m about to go do that right now, which is a far better use of my time than paying attention to your babble-gloating. Toodles!

  88. 88.

    Botsplainer

    November 2, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    @Tilda Swinton’s Bald Cap:

    Why people stop reporting indecent conduct toward minors, exhibit #438.

    FBI is leaking like a sieve – somebody released the name to a reporter.

  89. 89.

    hovercraft

    November 2, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    @mai naem mobile:
    I think he may just be driving the few miles over to his new digs in DC.
    It will be weird to have three presidents in the city. Will traffic be even worse than it is right now?

  90. 90.

    Aleta

    November 2, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @Politically Lost: A wild hazy guess: I don’t remember precisely, but there was a glitch on Apple Mail (more than once over the years) that would make repeated copies of a sent email and store them on a server. Many many copies, and it could go undetected for quite a while. (This was different from the setting that specified whether to delete an incoming email off the server or not.) I remember there was another (different) Mail glitch that somehow got gmail involved in storing copies, too, if you left gmail open. (You can still find a lot of references to different versions of this problem on the Apple help forums, if you google.)

  91. 91.

    Steeplejack

    November 2, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Just wanted to add that I’m not saying there was any sensitive information on the Abedin/Weiner computer. Just not a good idea to blur the lines by “sharing.” It leaves a cloud, or a shadow, if you will.

  92. 92.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    November 2, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    @Kay:

    The NYT appears to be doing the bidding of someone in Trump’s org too – they rushed out their “no connection between Trump and Putin” story the second the server story came out. We are in some deep shit now. I’m glad Obama is president, but I wonder what info he’s getting.

  93. 93.

    dr. luba

    November 2, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    @Shell:

    I think Id even vote for Dorito over Trump.

    Well, Dorito is definitely the better orange option…….That reminds me, is Harambe still ahead of Dr. Jill Stein in the polls?

  94. 94.

    pamelabrown53

    November 2, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    @Betty Cracker: #61
    Re: poultry transportation. Looks like you’ve had a few suggestions and hope some were helpful. I was just wondering if you’d are to share the reasons you’re looking to move: i.e., downsizing, more rural/less rural,. Sorry if my question is too personal; since I’m also contemplating a move, I have an enhanced interest in other ‘contemplaters’.

    P.S. Love your chicken stories.

  95. 95.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    November 2, 2016 at 1:33 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    FBI is leaking like a sieve – somebody released the name to a reporter.

    And that fucker needs an indictment. Is the IG at the FBI one of the RWNJs? Kay’s point is important: we all pay their salaries, so they work for all of us. It’s beyond unacceptable that a minor sex case victim was outed to the press.

  96. 96.

    Butch

    November 2, 2016 at 1:34 pm

    We moved our flock (50 birds) 1,300 miles in a 1958 12-foot El Dorado travel trailer back in 2011. It was great to see the reactions of passing motorists as they’d look up at the trailer windows; the chickens had perched on the sink and stove and were staring out the windows at them.

  97. 97.

    hovercraft

    November 2, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    @raven:
    Funny how he survived his last encounter with police.

    Greene is suspected of ambushing two metro-area police officers were shot and killed in apparent “ambush style” attacks early Wednesday. Authorities said Greene surrendered to a Department of Natural Resources officer in Dallas County by 9:30 a.m. There was no struggle.

    He was charged with a simple misdemeanor count of interference with official acts on April 10, 2014, when he resisted an attempt by officers to pat him down for weapons at an Urbandale residence on Colby Parkway, according to a criminal complaint. The officers wanted to search Greene after noticing that he had a pouch on his belt that resembled a holster.

    Greene was “noncompliant, hostile, combative and made furtive movements toward his pockets” before the arrest, Officer Chris Greenfield wrote in the complaint. Greene pleaded guilty to the charge about two weeks later.

    All actions that would have gotten the f**ker killed if something about him was different.
    I’m glad he turned himself in.

  98. 98.

    hovercraft

    November 2, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    @Kay:

    Katy Tur ‏@KatyTurNBC 25m25 minutes ago
    “She’ll be in court for her entire tenure.” Trump on Clinton

    I would reply that Trump will be in court starting in two weeks, and probably for the next few years as he deals with all of the women who he has sexually assaulted.

  99. 99.

    Botsplainer

    November 2, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Doubt it was the local FBI office or that SAC that made the reporter call. Probably higher up the food chain.

  100. 100.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 2, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    @Josie: Thanks Josie!

  101. 101.

    The Moar You Know

    November 2, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    Ya’ll see this confederate flag fucker that murdered the 2 cops in Iowa?

    @raven: Enjoy it, that’ll be the last you see or hear about the guy. They’re going to bury him and lock the records just like they did for Jared Loughner, Gabby Gifford’s would-be assassin.

  102. 102.

    p.a.

    November 2, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Shit I hope the US doesn’t follow Cracker’s yard’s example: Orange leader replacing Black.

  103. 103.

    Kay

    November 2, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    @hovercraft:

    They don’t even need to reach that far. Donald Trump is being sued for fraud. He’ll have to make an appearance after the election, or delay somehow, or however the hell he’ll try to weasel around it.

    One of the horrible sons probably has to appear too- whichever one was supposedly running the rip-off seminar business.

  104. 104.

    hovercraft

    November 2, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:
    The media and the GOP, the same ones who are currently criticizing Comey, let alone the rest of them, would immediately scream that he is trying to help Hitlery win. On the 9th or thee 20th is soon enough to show him the door, he is either stupid and hapless, or he is a partisan hack, either way he’s got to go.

  105. 105.

    p.a.

    November 2, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    @The Moar You Know: Lone wolf, don’t’cha know… disturbed individual. Can’t wait for Fux News to designate a white spokesperson to apologize to the world. In 2… 1… *crickets*

  106. 106.

    Kay

    November 2, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    MULawPoll
    ‏@MULawPoll
    New Marquette Law School Poll finds Clinton leading Trump among likely voters in WI 46% to 40%. #

    Where’s Omnes? Isn’t Clinton’s whole margin in WI in three counties? That’s what I always heard for Feingold. If so it seems to be okay.

  107. 107.

    hovercraft

    November 2, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    @Kay:
    Probably, the democratic vote is Milwaukee, Madison, and I think Green Bay. There may be some attrition in Green Bay, WWC, but 6 points is great. This is the premier pollster for WI, so if they say she looks good I’ll relax. Everyone still GOTV.

  108. 108.

    kindness

    November 2, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    Re: the FBI’s twitter feed.

    I understand I’m not the most advance on the Twitterverse but it seems to me someone could change the entry password and that would solve this.

  109. 109.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    November 2, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    Monmouth has PA _weighted_ at 85% white? Seriously? 2012 exits had it 78%. Let’s say that was off 2-3 pts. But 85%?

    Polls are lagging indicators of the true composition of the electorate, but this is insanity. Why on earth do pollsters pull this shit?

  110. 110.

    dexwood

    November 2, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Coming in late on this. Before we got our hens I read up on chicken keeping and frequently saw cautions about feeding them onions and chives because they would affect the taste of the eggs. I thought that might be a bonus for omelets. My yard has chives growing in many place because of how they spread and the hens loved eating the tender, young shoots. I can’t say that I ever noticed a difference in the flavor of the eggs. We’re down to one hen left from the original six. She’s elderly, hasn’t laid an egg in almost a year, and spends her days in quiet contemplation.

  111. 111.

    Bess

    November 2, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    Just put them in a cage and tie it to your car roof.

    Worked for Mittens….

  112. 112.

    hovercraft

    November 2, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    It must drive them nuts that most of the country does not hate Barack Hussein Obama.
    In fact many of us love him, and will be sad to see him and his family go.
    Photo, Photos, Photos of the girls.

    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s plan to use President Obama’s relationship with Hillary Clinton this morning to critique the presidential Nominee backfired on Twitter. The Republican governor tweeted a photo of Obama and Clinton hugging, writing, “If you like the past 8 years, vote @Hillary Clinton.”

    Many Twitter users characterized Walker’s tweet as an inadvertent endorsement of Clinton and Obama. Walker’s tweet was the No. 1 trend on Twitter’s Today and Election 2016 sections.

  113. 113.

    Aleta

    November 2, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    @Steeplejack: Yes, the ‘sharing a computer’ doesn’t sound at all realistic to me for any professional couple with jobs that depend on their computers! (“Don’t ever touch my computer” being a friendly rule around roommates.)

    Unless the ‘shared’ computer was a dedicated one they kept linked to the printer at home?

    And/or she passed her old laptop on to him when she got a new one, and (seems highly improper) she didn’t wipe the whole thing. And the mail app somehow included hidden copies of email even though she had deleted her mail account?

    And/or (no clear idea how it would cause the problem, but a procedure at my house): one of them needed to transfer the OS and apps from an old laptop to a new one, but instead of doing it bit by bit, h/she took a shortcut. Backed up the entire contents of the old one, then transferred that all in one swoop to the new one, and (if a Mac) glitches already in the Mail were amplified?

  114. 114.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    November 2, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    @kindness:

    I’m thinking that the password has been changed. After a flurry of activity, nothing has been posted.

  115. 115.

    frosty fred

    November 2, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    @dexwood: I had eggs in Poland in 1972 that tasted of fish. The hosts explained that the main component of commercial chicken feed was fish meal. Chose other breakfast items thereafter.

  116. 116.

    Aleta

    November 2, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    @Bess: That is the reason this dog here on my couch has refused to vote Rep. for the past 56 years.

  117. 117.

    dexwood

    November 2, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    @frosty fred:
    That would definitely put me off eggs. My wife once brought me some cookies from a trip to Japan that tasted of fish. One bite was all I could handle. Talk about mixed messages. She said they used fish oil in all kinds of things.

  118. 118.

    FlipYrWhig

    November 2, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    @Aleta:

    Unless the ‘shared’ computer was a dedicated one they kept linked to the printer at home?

    That’s what I was picturing.

  119. 119.

    Alain the site fixer

    November 2, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    As for the shared pc, I expect it was his, Huma needed to use it so he setup her user account/login for her. She setup MS OffIce when she logged into Windows the first time and setup her email account(s) in Outlook which defaults to POP for email for some account types. POP downloads all email then on the server and can leave the emails on it or can delete them. Years later her Windows user profile is still on the pc and has a stash of saved emails. They’re likely just dupes of what the FBI already have.

  120. 120.

    Mark

    November 2, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    Serious chicken question: are they pets? Family had chickens when I was a kid, the older ones became delicious chicken stock. I admit I hated them and hated collecting the eggs. For me, the sooner in the pot the better.

  121. 121.

    Enhanced Voting Techinques

    November 2, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    @hovercraft: Oh if only the Generic Republican Savior would come for them! Yes, a man tall and strong with the face of middle America and speaking straight from the Heartland,h one hand sowing tax cuts from which unirrupted prosperity springs with another, sternly raised facing south to stop the immigrant menace. Oh wo is the GoP until then.

  122. 122.

    Elizabelle

    November 2, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Local TV live feed: James Taylor singing America the Beautiful at UNC Chapel Hill. (Whoops. Over. People kind of hanging out and waiting now, canned music.)

    PBO up in a few. C-Span will cover the event at 3:15 p.

    Gorgeous day in the Tarheel state to welcome PBO back. And he is here again Friday.

  123. 123.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    November 2, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    We have our first little flock. Two Buff Orfington’s and One Silkie.

    They haven’t fully grown and are currently living in a box in the mud room. Can’t wait until they are big enough for the Coop because it’s stinky back there, but I love the Silkie.

  124. 124.

    Mack5151

    November 2, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Fried. Roasted. Baked. Many ways to transport said chickens. Otherwise, I keep getting them from people as gifts, and they just bring them in boxes. I don’t think the birds are fragile, so special handling probably not required.

  125. 125.

    J R in WV

    November 2, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    Now in the near past, we had a new sporty car, and decided to take driving weekend vacations in it. Big fun. But the point here is chickens.

    We drove down to Asheville, NC, not far away. The country between western NC and eastern TN is full of great driving roads, including the Blue Ridge Parkway’s very southern end. We loved Asheville, by the way. Near town there’s a great museum art center, with master projects made by apprentice crafters, really old folk art, etc. We spent a lot of time there as we’re both interested in the history of the mountain culture.

    When we came out of the museum, there were some interesting cars in the parking lot. One was a brand new Mustang, with the windows down a little, and a really big rooster perched between the front seats. The back seats were down, and there was a whole flock of birds back there. We were surprised, as chickens can create a mess pretty quickly.

    Eventually we learned that the birds were in the middle of a rescue, being moved from a place not good for them, to a place where they could be (more or less) free birds. They seemed already happier than birds needing rescue, as they were quiet and waiting for the next leg of their trip to rural chicken freedom.

    Perhaps this quiet was due to the new and strange environment they found themselves in…

  126. 126.

    J R in WV

    November 2, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    OK, I’ve got a cat-rooster story:

    When we bought the farm, we had a really big white and red cat, named Ralph, after his call. He was a 20-pounder, and not afraid of any dog. There was a small 12 foot long foot bridge over a tiny freshet creek, part of the path over to the chicken coop. As we accumulated our first chicken flock, we bought banty game hens from a neighbor over the hill – these are smaller birds, of which the roosters were once used a fighting cocks. They lay fine small eggs, though.

    In order to get fresh blood in our flock, out next door neighbor, Earl, gave us his big rooster, a giant red rooster that was the size of a turkey. One day Big Red was scratching and pecking in the dirt at the far end of the chicken-coop bridge, which was about 8 inches above the ground, and 3 feet wide. Then I saw Ralph at the other end of the bridge, staring at Red, the big rooster.

    Ralph was obviously interested in the biggest bird he had ever seen, in a very tomcat way. He was very low, and wriggling his back end, working to get a good grip on the ground, so his pounce would be as awesome as possible. I knew nothing good could come of this situation, but curiosity made me keep quiet and watch. If only I had had a video camera of any kind.

    Ralph leapt about half-way across the bridge in his first pounce. At the same time, Red, the giant rooster, who had been closely watching the cat on his own, spread his wings and jumped into the air, with his talons spread out between him and Ralph.

    In the meantime, Ralph, seeing the giant bird suddenly expand to become 3 times as big as he was when Ralph decided to pounce, was suddenly in full reverse gear, digging into the boards of the little foot bridge and spinning a one-eighty turn, to head back across the bridge, away from Big Red the rooster.

    The rooster gently landed back on Earth, while Ralph was digging in to head back west away from the chicken flock. I laughed so hard I hurt myself. Ralph never tried to mess with another magically expanding bird again, ever. Dogs, on the other hand, continued to be his sport of choice.

    Many fine cat and dog stories from Ralph and his dogs..!!

  127. 127.

    StringOnAStick

    November 2, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    @Butch: I wish I had seen your travel trailer full of chickens, that would have made my day!

  128. 128.

    Procopius

    November 3, 2016 at 12:42 am

    @Politically Lost: Doesn’t make sense to me either, and Abedin says she can’t figure it out. One hypothesis I heard was that it’s from when Abedin was printing all Hillary’s emails out for her because she didn’t like reading them on the tiny Blackberry screen, but when I print an email a copy is not kept on my computer. I used to use Eudora for my POP email account, I’ve never used Outlook, maybe it does that.

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