Michelle Obama hitting the woah. That’s it. That’s the tweet. pic.twitter.com/Nx2ugkd3RA
— Shauntell (@ShayLanise) May 5, 2019
Heads up to any publications wanting to repost video: @FirdausShallo is the one teaching Mrs. Obama the dance & the video was originally posted on Mrs. Obama’s IG story
— Shauntell (@ShayLanise) May 6, 2019
Kudos to Senator Harris:
.@KamalaHarris asks the kids of Dearborn: Who’s gonna fun for President someday? pic.twitter.com/MjSwSVjQTN
— Jess Bidgood (@jessbidgood) May 6, 2019
(That should be ‘run’, thanks for nothing twitter autocorrect… )
This is how @KamalaHarris was greeted by one of the teachers we met in Michigan today.
This is what happens when you see people and you hear people and you create policies that matter. pic.twitter.com/BsxvCTvYfQ
— Kate Waters (@K8_Waters) May 6, 2019
Dearborn has a huge Arab-American population — not all of it Muslim, but the girls in hijab will set Trumplodytes’ heads to explode. Not to mention picking out an Asian-American teacher in the second clip… under a sign in Spanish!
Meanwhile, my favorite Senator continues to impress:
Every woman who runs for president in this country is under a stupid amount of pressure to describe herself as a "wife and mom."
So @ewarren listed the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau as one of her children. pic.twitter.com/ZSs24VV2lh
— Lauren Naturale (@lnaturale) May 5, 2019
.@ewarren claimed that she warned about the financial crisis before it happened. We found that her 2003 book, 2004-2006 blog posts and media interviews back her claim. We rate it True. https://t.co/HrNwyh5sXK pic.twitter.com/iio1zzP2vq
— PolitiFact (@PolitiFact) May 5, 2019
And for the lulz…
Welcome to the world, young Fuck Off, Piers Morgan. https://t.co/ritlntCchq
— Josh Gondelman (@joshgondelman) May 6, 2019
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Baud
I hope they named him Prince. That way he’d be Prince Prince.
p.a.
@rikyrah: good morn! 2nd day of sun here after @ 2 weeks of (h/t ‘zark’billy) ‘blech’. Time to charge the lawnmower…
OzarkHillbilly
As the adoptive parent, does that make Mick Mulvaney guilty of neglect and attempted filicide?
Baud
Someday? They’ll probably announce for 2030 in the next couple of weeks.
NotMax
@Baud
i dunno, Prince Duke Earl has a certain ring to it.
;)
Unseasonably hot days accompanied by equally unseasonably chilly nights for the past week.
OzarkHillbilly
@p.a.: We had 1 1/2 days of sun. Today the rains return. Maybe by the wkend.
Raven
Really pretty at the beach.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: We had rain yesterday, it’ll be cloudy the rest of the week with a possibility of more rain. While I like the extra rain late in the season, it’s putting a serious damper on my Milky Way shooting. Good thing I went to shoot last Friday.
David Fud
I haven’t seen Florida Man for a while, and would like to recommend that he be joined by Florida Woman in notoriousness. They might be well matched for mayhem and could produce offspring with impressive Darwinian traits.
Baud
@Baud:
Ugh. 2030 = 2020.
--bd
So, as a fifty-something year old, the Kamala I remember was this WWE wrestler from 30 years ago, complete with Ooga Booga headhunter attire: htps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_(wrestler) . From the article I find out that his IRL surname was Harris! What was only a amusing cross reference in my brain is now forever fried. Kamala the Butcher in 2020! Perhaps she can run Detroit Mayor Mike “Hacksaw” Duggan.
Immanentize
@Baud: 2030 made sense too
Immanentize
We also had one nice day yesterday, but today, after morning sun, we are back to rainy and cloudy. Although we do get up to the 70s today.
Baud
@Immanentize:
It wasn’t the funny I was going for.
--bd
No, 2032. Shoulda went for 2040.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Which makes it even funnier.
kd bart
They’re going to name the kid Benny Hill
debbie
It doesn’t matter what name they give the baby, there will be tons of racist tweets condemning it.
CliosFanboy
huh, didn’t know it was in season. thought that was autumn, like with deer.
OzarkHillbilly
Clerks is 25 years old. Kevin Smith:
…………………
Lasted? It’s only gotten better, Kevin.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@CliosFanboy: Milky Way season is February though October in the Northern Hemisphere.
satby
Good morning everyone (especially our morning sunshine @rikyrah: )!
Just had to race the garbage truck to the front curb with my trash can. Six-thirty, seriously? I won though. Now enjoying my victory coffee ?
Patricia Kayden
@David Fud: Pulling a foot long alligator out of one’s pants is so Floridian that it’s probably not the craziest thing you’ll hear from that state. But she’s certainly a contender.
CliosFanboy
great. now I have that music running through my head. ARGH,.
CliosFanboy
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
the hard part is strapping one on the hood of your truck when you go home!!!
Baud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/07/kamala-harris-black-voters-views-electability-are-being-shaped-by-pundits/
Baud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/05/07/why-democrats-all-americans-should-embrace-centrism/
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Yellow lines and dead armadillos.
Kay
@Baud:
Good for her. But it isn’t just pundits who do this. Democratic voters themselves do this. It never made any sense. Democrats win Wisconsin by winning Milwaukee. They always have. The idea that they’re running in the midwest to attract “white working class voters” was wholly pundit-created and there’s no reason Democratic voters and activists should buy into it. It isn’t even numerically correct.
We marginalize our own voters by accepting this frame that the only working people are white people.
plato
From the slate linky
David Koch
those poor kids running for president in 2032 and 2040, they’ll have to contend with Wilmer yelling at them on the campaign trail.
Just One More Canuck
@kd bart: Monty Python
Kay
I get it, I really do, the dog whistle has become “working people”. But think about that! Why would we accept that? It’s 1. not true, and 2. not the reality of the Democratic base in the midwest. It completely disappears a huge chunk of working people by twinning “working” with “white and male” AND ignores our actual voters.
Reject the premise. It’s wrong and it helps Republican candidates and hurts Democratic candidates. Maybe Harris is the only one who can say it because she’s from California so hasn’t been brainwashed into this abstract, political science idiocy, and is instead looking at a map and seeing where her potential voters are.
Jerzy Russian
@Baud:
Vote for Baud! He has his own math! Speaking of which, it is spelled “Baud!” but it is pronounced “Baud factorial”.
plato
Chyron HR
@plato:
That’s an optimistic projection.
OzarkHillbilly
@Chyron HR: Methinks you have a different definition of ‘optimistic’ than I do.
David Koch
Norah O’Donnell named new anchor for the CBS Evening News!
Kay
“What’s the Matter with Kansas?” is literally the worst thing to ever happen to Democrats. They internalized an argument that doesn’t reflect their actual voters in the midwest and, ridiculously and insultingly and insanely, equates “working” with “white male”. This theory doesn’t fit our actual electorate. It fits some imaginary Democratic electorate.
I felt like we finally got past it with Obama but here we are again! Back to 1993! Voluntarily going along with media and Republicans and agreeing that “working” = “white and male”.
I am pleased we have such a geographically diverse set of candidates and I was hoping Harris could give us a different perspective coming out of California. I bet when she ran in working class precincts in Los Angeles she didn’t define “working” as “white”, because while they are certainly “workers”, they aren’t white. She shouldn’t do that in Milwaukee or Dearborn either, because it’s not true there either, despite the fact that these are midwest cities.
Gin & Tonic
Ron Paul appears on Russia Today to endorse Tulsi Gabbard, just in case anyone needs a scorecard.
OzarkHillbilly
Jews and Islamophobia Lots of graphs, the downlow from Josh:
catclub
@plato: The next Trump is making sure that all the accountant stuff is run through lawyers to maintain client attorney privilege.
catclub
@Kay: huh, The message I got from it was that Kansas voted against its own interests by voting for Republicans.
catclub
@plato: Who says the Constitution isn’t a suicide pact?
catclub
@Gin & Tonic: I pointed that out when someone said the difference between Bernie and Ron Paul was Russian backing, assumes facts not in evidence.
Quinerly
@plato: thanks for posting the Slate piece.
chopper
@–bd:
oh dude i remember that guy! back during the 80’s. and his last name is harris?!
Kay
@catclub:
Kansas white people. Who are “the working class”, which just happens to exclude the actual Democratic working class in states like Michigan- that’s who Harris is speaking to. She’s asking “who decided the working class consists of white people?” which is a good question to ask in Dearborn, where there are lots of people who aren’t white but work.
The idea that “working people” means “white people” is accepting a GOP and media premise. Why does it mean that? Because they said so? They’re wrong, she knows they’re wrong, and instead of going along with this lunacy she challenged the premise. She’s right too, numerically. If she brings out working class voters who are NOT white in Milwaukee she wins Wisconsin.
chopper
@Chyron HR:
someone’s been reading too many of TP’s posts.
Professor Bigfoot
@–bd: I already call her Kamala “Steppin’ Razor” Harris… just based on the way she gutted Barr and “left him flopping on the deck…”
FlipYrWhig
@Kay: Sing it, sister!
You’re quite right. The professional pundits do this because they internalized the “Reagan Democrats” from 1980 and then spread that conventional wisdom far and wide. The wannabe-left does it too, because they have amassed a bunch of badly thought-out ideas about how burly guys in factories are virtuous by comparison to their bougie parents.
Professor Bigfoot
@Kay:
QFT.
Kay
@catclub:
We have an actual example of the two approaches- Bernie Sanders v Kamala Harris. Bernie actually IS saying “working = white” – nearly overtly. She’s taking the other side of that.
It’s one of the reasons the Bernie thing amazes me- Bernie Sanders is REALLY conventional. His argument is 50 years old in the Democratic Party. It doesn’t reflect reality. We need a more modern view, and Harris offers that.
Professor Bigfoot
To me it’s that pining away for white voters that creates this definition of “working class.”
Since Reagan pulled white people away from the Democratic Party, Democrats have wanted to get them back.
IT AIN’T A GONNA HAPPEN. It just ain’t. The majority of white Americans is simply NOT going to vote for “the party of Negroes and Negro rights.”
But if Democrats get those whites who are not outright hostile to non-white people along with EVERYBODY ELSE, *they win.*
Baud
@Jerzy Russian:
I’m kicking myself for not thinking of this. You’re my new Senior Policy Advisor.
@Kay:
I honestly think Hillary tried to do this. It hurt her because 2016 was the time where we were told we needed to apologize to white working class voters in the Midwest.
Cheryl Rofer
Kay
@FlipYrWhig:
I love that it’s led by the NYTimes. The city that produced America’s most powerful racist faction. Physician, heal thyself.
“America’s Mayor” turns out to be more racist than any random county commissioner in Alabama and let’s not even get into the wildly sophisticated and tolerant Trump Family. Two southern states produced competitive governor’s race candidates who are black last cycle- Georgia and Florida, and Minnesota gave us the Muslim House member the entire GOP are attempting to hound out of office.
We could use a Californian to call bullshit on this whole mess. It’s all wrong. Inaccurate.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Tell it, Kay.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay:
That is heresy Kay, just ask him.
Kay
@Baud:
As I have said, I have no problem with Hillary’s campaign OTHER than the fact that they were 5 behind in Ohio should have made them KNOW they were in peril in Michigan and Pennsylvania, because those states move together, with Ohio the furthest Right. So 5 back in Ohio should have been an emergency. Not for Ohio, which was gone. But for Michigan and Pennsylvania, which weren’t. For that I actually blame Robbie Mook, specifically :)
FlipYrWhig
@Kay:
The association between Sanders and “the working class” is entirely theoretical anyway. He has fuck-all to do with the working class and never did anything for them. He only THINKS he resides there because of his warmed-over seminar-room cod Marxism. The whole phenomenon recalls how in the early 21st century Pabst Blue Ribbon became the hipster beer because it was down-market.
Kay
@OzarkHillbilly:
His campaign is really conventional too. They’re like “look at all these small donors! Revolution!” then they spend the money in exactly the same way everyone else spends it. They were all promoting this ad he made about Ohio and it is like “generic Ohio ad, closed factory in the background, gritty working class white people close-up”. I have seen this ad hundreds of times. It could be in the dictionary under “Democratic ad, Ohio”.
Immanentize
@chopper: @OzarkHillbilly:
Funny, I was just going to mention TP and suggest he read Josh’s post about putting your bias against Muslims away because you are just playing the night’s game.
Kay
@OzarkHillbilly:
I’m waiting for the Democrat who does an ad with a closed retail outlet – “it’s tragic what is happening to our retail workers”
They’re women so no one will. Apparently they work for the store discount to supplement the household allowance their husbands who work in the coal mine give them, because it’s still 1974.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly:
As I was driving home from dropping off the Immp, I just saw the first Bernie bumper sticker I can support:
Bernie has my Heart
Hillary has my vote
I thought — that’s reasonable
rikyrah
@Kay:
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
I wish we had the like button.
FlipYrWhig
@Kay: “The left” doesn’t romanticize retail. As far as I can tell, they *demonize* retail because they see it as an outlet for soulless consumerism. Except for maybe record stores. That’s soulful consumerism.
Immanentize
@Professor Bigfoot:
LBJ understood this when he pushed through the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act. He said the Dems lost “the south”* for a generation — looks more like two
* Back then, this was the code word for racist whites. Now, it’s “worker”
rikyrah
@Kay:
I will say it once again, for those who have missed it…
In November 2016, in those questionable states….
OUR VOTERS…
OUR RELIABLE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS….
WERE DENIED THE FRANCHISE DUE TO VOTER SUPPRESSION.
The NUMBER of those RELIABLE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS…
In each of those states…
Was TWO TO THREE TIMES THE MARGIN OF DOLT45’S ‘VICTORY’.
We don’t have to chase after other voters….IF WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUR VOTERS OUT….
Immanentize
@rikyrah: But, don’t you think voter suppression also had something to do with Hillary’s loss??
??
Jeffro
@plato: That’s terrifying to put it mildly.
Dems better act quick on all fronts here: admit new states from current territories, carve current ones into multiple states, amend the Constitution to abolish the EC/directly elect the president, perhaps even take away the Senate’s ability to delay/not vote on judges, etc. If the dead-enders stick with their nihilist approach (the Turtle is already saying he won’t allow votes on a single Dem initiative coming from the House if Dems win the WH next year) then we’ll stay screwed almost no matter what we do.
And between McConnell and the next trumpov, we will continue to see Orwellian nonsense (“allowing more people to vote is undemocratic”, “ending gerrymandering is a Democratic power grab”, etc) on a grand scale. Hit it hard, Dem candidates!
rikyrah
@Cheryl Rofer:
I love that the women are attacking that tax SCAM directly.
Immanentize
@FlipYrWhig:
Or because of Blue Velvet — Frank’s preferred beverage.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: I still have my Hillary sticker on my truck and will leave it there to remind everyone out here who now find themselves horrified after voting for trump (there are more than we know) that they had a choice, and it was a good choice.
Kay
The thing I miss about Clinton (which makes her “unlikeable”) was how she would get disgusted with Bernie’s passive aggressive bullshit about how he had a revolution when he was running this conventional campaign like every other Democrat, ever, and just scowl at him. This is me at work, every day :)
She really connected with me in her unlikeableness and, honestly, there are times one can’t be “likeable” and get the job done.
mrmoshpotato
@Gin & Tonic:
This is my surprised face. ?
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: In what way is BS a revolutionary? I have never been able to figure that one out.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay:
It is hard to get the job done without pissing off the person who has the One And Only Certain Sure Fix ™ for the problem.
Immanentize
@Kay: I loved that about her. She was so obviously used to dealing at such a higher level. She crushed Bernie in the primaries, but he just kept running on his privilege. And her stink eye in the Bengazeeeee! hearings was also excellent
I know I have no one’s ear that’s running, but I thought that in 2016, the Dems should have run on the promise to root out corruption. They sorta ran on some of that in 2018 and they should go all in in 2020. Both Harris and Warren have the backgrounds for that type of campaign.
OzarkHillbilly
@schrodingers_cat: He says the “S” word and is proud of it.
Jerzy Russian
@Baud:
I am honored. I idea that comes to mind is that you should use more math jokes. For example,
Reporter: What do you propose to do to stop the exponential rise of [insert some very bad thing here]?
Baud!: We will hit it with a log.
Also make your official announcement on March 14 at 3:14 universal time.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Immanentize: I’d like them to translate “corruption” into more concrete, specific terms. Money buying influence. Special treatment for a few. Whatever. People hate “corruption” but think of it in vague terms.
Immanentize
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I agree — someone has to say something like: “Just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean it’s not corrupt. Just look at who wrote those laws allowing payoffs.”
Baud
@Jerzy Russian:
You’re quickly becoming an integral member of my team.
Immanentize
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
— Lobbyists writing legislation
— Taking gifts from corporations
— Writing laws just to help your rich friends
— gerrymandering
Jerzy Russian
@Baud: The Student has become my teacher.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: You’re both irrational so the result might be rational but it is unlikely.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize:
Stop beating around the bush, ban corporations.
Cacti
@Gin & Tonic:
I guess the home office in Moskva decided it couldn’t drag her poll numbers down any lower than they already are.
Professor Bigfoot
@Kay: Fire you are on this mornin’ Ms. Kay.
Fire, I say!
rikyrah
The Ohio GOP is now forcing an 11-year-old-girl to give birth to this man’s rape child. https://t.co/vuv0u31cb4
— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) May 7, 2019
schrodingers_cat
@OzarkHillbilly: He is a fucking senator, the most conservative legislative body in this country. Some revolutionary he is. Yeah totally the second coming of Che and Bhagat Singh. A multimillionaire with at least two houses, truly a man of the people.
ETA: He seems to believe that if he just voices incantations his wishes will come true.
Democratic Socialist, M4A. Slogans are enough for BS.
Sab
@Immanentize: In Ohio sort of squeaky clean Bob Taft resigned in disgrace for some minimally sort of not okay golf outing, and now we have folks carrying money out in virtual wheelbarrows and nobody seems to care.
We thought we were clearing house, but instead we were getting rid of every Republican with any sort of moral sense, leaving the field wide open to those with none: Kasich, Rob Portman, Mary Taylor, Josh Mandel.
Sixty Minutes had Rob Portman on last week blaming the Opioid crisis on the Post Office! I kid you not. He said that Fed Ex and UPS check their packages better. Of course they do. They charge $10 bucks for a letter when the post office charges cents.
Rob Portman has spent his whole professional life trying to suck the life out of the post office by making them fund long term pension obligations now (because they hire unionized POC) and he hasn’t done squat on the opioid crisis. Yet there he was on 60 minutes.
Mary Taylor threw her own kids under the bus, announcing to the world that they were heroin addicts, then running on a anti-Obamacare platform ( drug addiction is a pre-existing condition) and then blaming it all on Mexican cartels when everyone knows that heroin and fentanyl mostly come from China.
James E Powell
I wonder what the Democrats’ are going to do about Trump’s tax returns. They had to know that they would not be turned over. I think everyone here knew that.
I hope it’s not another stern letter.
glory b
@Kay: I’ve said this before and will say it again now. I can’t speak for the other states, but something was fishy in PA. In the last FIVE elections, Dems won every statewide office except two, Trump and Pat Toomey (our Repub senator).
You;d have to believe that the Pennsyltuckians voted for the two of them and then voted for Dems, straight down the line. Something’s not right.
schrodingers_cat
Washington Post has been generally been pretty good about news coverage but its op-ed pages are pretty terrible. Today there is Steve Fucking Bannon on it. As if Theissen and Ed Rogers weren’t enough polishing the Orange one’s fake patina.
kd bart
This time around, people are going to discover how awful a campaigner Wilmer really is and how he has surrounded himself with a staff full of incompetents. Hillary is not there to distract this time. No more free ride.
MomSense
@Kay:
I think Harris is the one who speaks this truth because of who make up her campaign leadership. Her leadership team is women and mostly women of color. This is one of the reasons representation matters.
BTW I just signed up for Camp Kamala. This is an online leadership training program that anyone can join. I’m excited to see what they are going to offer.
tobie
@David Koch: Norah O’Donnell? Is this the woman who was incredibly rude to Valerie Jarrett on 60 Minutes? If so, this is terrible news. She has all the meanness and crassness of Megan Kelly.
rikyrah
Black Women Views (@blackwomenviews) Tweeted:
This makes my blood BOIL! He has blood on his hands period. Piece of sh%t racis+!
Sandra Bland, It Turns Out, Filmed Traffic Stop Confrontation Herself https://t.co/xuQaDvaYrl https://twitter.com/blackwomenviews/status/1125764940193837057?s=17
rikyrah
@Immanentize:
Someone just wrote this on another blog with reference to Harris:
rikyrah
Phuck Outta Here ? ?
McConnell is speaking about how he thinks we should move on from the Mueller report, before we’ve even seen the full report and it’s underlying evidence. Let me be clear. We will NEVER move on from the Mueller report and it’s findings until EVERYONE is held accountable. EVERYONE.
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) May 7, 2019
tobie
@glory b: I always thought this was suspicious too since Pennsylvania allows straight party-line voting (one vote for the entire D or R slate). It could be that rural Pennsylvania turned out big and just voted for the top two offices (Pres and Senate) and left the others blank, but this should have been checked. Gov. Wolf seems like a total drip. PA’s a state with a Democratic governor and he did doodle-squat to verify the integrity of the election system. Has he even lobbied for paper ballots throughout the state? I gather rural PA mostly uses Diebold’s touch screen system.
tobie
@rikyrah: They’ve got their new focus-group tested slogan: “Case closed.” Ours should be sunlight or transparency since ending corruption is going to have to be the Democratic slogan in 2020.
Kay
@MomSense:
I like Warren, Harris and Klobachur. In that order. I’m embracing identity politics, because let’s face it, everyone else does, including most white men so I’m limiting my primary to women.
That they say they don’t use “identity” politics just means they believe they are the standard identity. I am not bound by this, so, therefore and hereto, I may define it myself.
rikyrah
???
Mitch McConnell, who told the Obama administration it should not go more public with warnings that Russia was trying to tilt the 2016 election, is now saying that focus on Mueller is distracting from where the real focus should be: Russia’s interference in elections.
— Sam Stein (@samstein) May 7, 2019
James E Powell
Rather than type a long comment, I’m just gonna say that I agree with everything Kay has written in this thread.
Michael Cain
Rain this morning, thunder forecast for this afternoon, chance of snow Wednesday night. As always in Front Range Colorado: Never set out plants, or put away your show shovel, before Mother’s Day.
MomSense
@Kay:
Harris does a great riff on identity politics. I think you would like it.
Kay
Nate Silver
Verified account
I’m glad the political professionals figured this out, but the only “people” who said this were 1. them and 2. Bernie Sanders.
It was discussed in Democratic circles. We all pretty much landed where they are now, 2 years ago. They must have missed the giant “Hillary is evil” movement they all promoted in 2016. I guess it’s our fault for nominating their nemesis, but we didn’t know the level of (irrational) hatred at the time :)
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat:
Commenters are not happy about it. I’m mystified. Why would they do that???? No one has any better wisdom on China and the economy than him?
I’m not canceling my subscription because their political coverage is light years better than NYT.
germy
Brachiator
@germy:
Well, yeah…
pat
@rikyrah:
Right on. And never forget that the repubs know that if everyone is allowed to vote, they are a permanent minority party. Except in the Senate, of course, which is going to be a huge problem going forward. Why is no dem going after Mitch in Kentucky, BTW??
FlipYrWhig
@Kay: Welcome to the party, Nate. I’ve been saying this for 4 damn years.
I’m amused that the logic behind “the left’s” perception that they were at near-parity and about to take over the party is congruent to Mitt Romney’s “47%” remark.
I have long maintained that a reasonable proxy for the actual number of “leftists” participating in American politics is the number that tells pollsters Obama wasn’t liberal *enough*. I forget what was the last version of that number I saw but it was… small. It sure as hell wasn’t half of the Democratic Party. And yet that’s one of the Sanders crowd’s cardinal axioms.
tobie
@germy: Yes! Revising the corporate tax code should be the next item on the agenda.
FlipYrWhig
@tobie: LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!
Baud
@Kay:
One of the things I liked about Hillary was her enemies. But I didn’t realize at the time that enough marginal Dems shared her enemies’ point of view.
glory b
@tobie: ” I gather rural PA mostly uses Diebold’s touch screen system.”
That’s my understanding too.
FlipYrWhig
@Baud: I still think a larger factor than disaffected marginal Democrats was the ebb of Obama-specific support that had surged in 2008 and to a lesser degree in 2012. IMHO there turned out to be a lot of people who cared a hell of a lot more about having Barack Obama as president than having anyone else be president, or holding any other office, before or since. That’s actually the group I worry about most when I’m feeling fretful about the 2020 election cycle.
ETA: Hmm, in retrospect, we may be talking about the same people. If so, nevermind.
Dorothy A. Winsor
I see Trump has ordered Mulvaney to order McGahn not to surrender the documents the Congressional subpoena asks for. Is that legal?
chopper
@James E Powell:
given how clear the law is in this regard, and the fact that the law was upheld as to nixon’s tax returns, i’d say a writ of mandamus would be in order. i would assume it would be more expeditious as well.
James E Powell
@chopper:
Is the law as clear as section 2 of the fifteenth amendment? Because RW hacks on the supreme court don’t really give a shit about clear language.
J R in WV
@FlipYrWhig:
Down-market? Try terrible bilge-water! Better than Miller Light? OK, damning with faint praise! Terrible bilge-water PBR ~!!~
patrick II
@Baud:
My middle name was almost Prince. My grandfather was born on the ship “Prince” while coming over from Ireland and that was his middle name. My dad decided I would get beat up too often on the playground, (A boy named Prince, and my first and middle initials would be P.P.) so he went with William after my uncle instead.
I have mixed emotions. I would have liked have been named after my grandfather, and I might have turned out like the boy named “Sue”, tough as nails, or alternatively a beaten down kid. One or the other I think, no middle ground.
FlipYrWhig
@J R in WV: Well you’re never going to build a hipster-hardhat coalition with THAT attitude ;)
Bill Arnold
@Jeffro:
I played with the numbers last week. The 5 smallest states have a population total less than total population of Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. They are represented by 8R, 1D, 1I Senators, and 4R, 1D House members. (Numbers are fairly recent, didn’t write down the source in notes.)
South Dakota,877790,RR/R
North Dakota,755238,RR/R
Alaska,738068,RR/R
Vermont,623960,DI/D
Wyoming,573720,RR/R
States,3568776,8R1D1I/4R1D
chopper
@J R in WV:
like making love in a canoe, it’s “fucking close to water”.
J R in WV
@OzarkHillbilly:
No, just enforce the death penalty for them when they kill someone. Boeing would be gone, for example. So would Murray Coal, Blankenship Coal, etc. duPont…
And disperse the assets to all those harmed…
NotMax
@J R in WV
Better than Budweiser. But then so is storm drain runoff.
Has been decades since drank any beer but do harbor a vague recollection that Pabst’s bock beer was okay. Was only available during a small window of time around Easter time, though.
NotMax
@patrick II
Still less high on the playground tease-o-meter than would be Patrick Ulysses.
;)
Dorothy A. Winsor
That tweet is followed by comments saying Wray is part of the swamp and needs to be fired immediately.
I have to go to B&N and make myself work. I hope the country is still standing when I come home.
J R in WV
@glory b:
Those voting machines were specifically built without any running totals or other tracking mechanism so that there is no way to verify whether or not votes are recorded as cast. Unlike every ATM Diebold ever built. But money is important, and votes are not, right?
And the CEO of Diebold promised that there would never again be a problem with Democrats being elected. Case Closed!!!
Omnes Omnibus
@Kay: Democrats still win Milwaukee by very lopsided numbers. The problem isn’t that Dems aren’t getting more than 70% of the vote there. It is that, absent voter suppression, Dems would be at 80-90% there.
Dems know how to win Milwaukee; they just need make sure everyone there who wants to vote can do so. It is a different problem.
Plato
Anotherlurker
@NotMax: The first time I heard that expression, “Like making love in a canoe” I was tending bar at Cagney’s Pub, in Oyster Bay, NY. Old Man Cagney was refering to Coors Lite. The Old Man had quite a way with words.
Michael Cain
@Bill Arnold: I was looking at some Census Bureau numbers the other day and 51% of the US population lives in the nine most-populous states. Of those 18 Senators, 10 are Republicans. It’s more complicated than bigs vs littles.
janesays
@Baud: You mean Cheetolini’s actually gonna get the 2 year extension he’s been demanding, which will push the next presidential election to 2022, then 2026, then 2030?
Tim in SF
I read that ten times and I still don’t know what the fuck it means.