Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

Come on, man.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

White supremacy is terrorism.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

Republicans can’t even be trusted with their own money.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

Happy indictment week to all who celebrate!

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

It’s a doggy dog world.

T R E 4 5 O N

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

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  10. 10.

    Elizabelle

    Thank you, Cheryl.  Have this on in the background.

    Big news day, eh?  I guess they all are, these days.

  12. 12.

    The Moar You Know

    “Mr. Chairman, will you please have Gene Krupa removed?”

    Oh my, someone’s a drummer.  Would love to know who made that comment.  I laughed my ass off (you gotta be a drummer or familiar with them to get it)

    Gohmert’s no Gene Krupa.

  13. 13.

    Ruckus

    @bemused:

    More intellectually advanced as well.

    What’s the old saying? If you don’t have anything positive to say, yell and scream like an infant, at least then the attention is away from the discussion. Of course it also shows how much you’ve developed since you were a snotty brat – none.

  15. 15.

    hells littlest angel

    Fatal drinking game: Take a shot every time Gym Jordan says, “Guess what?”

  22. 22.

    wvng

    I tried to watch.  I really wanted to watch. But then gym Jordan started his stream of lies so I had to turn it off. Later turned it back on only to find Gohmert having a tantrum. It’s simply appalling.

  24. 24.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Jesus fucking Christ….

    “There’s no rules about when you can make noise.”

    I assume his whining about the supposed “hypocrisy” of the Dems letting Ayer go 2 mins over is BS

  29. 29.

    Elizabelle

    “Any member who refuses to wear a mask will not be recognized.”

    WTG, Chairman Nadler!  Every committee should follow that rule.

  32. 32.

    JPL

    I muted Collins, but I want to mention that he is running against Loeffler to finish Johnny Isaakson’s term.    BTW He’s the more moderate of the two.

  33. 33.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Elizabelle:

    The asshole talking atm says he doesn’t have that authority apparently. And he’s trying to attack the credibility of Elias

  36. 36.

    waspuppet

    What’s the old saying about law, facts and pounding the table?

    Also, I can’t be bothered to watch because we all know everything the Republicans will say is a lie and everything the Americans say will not go nearly far enough, but I do have one question: Are the Americans wearing masks and the Republicans not?

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    Ah, Michael Mukasey is a witness.  Came to this knowing nothing about this hearing …

  38. 38.

    Wag

    I wonder how Gohmert will react when the Dems start banding on their desk when he tries to badger the witnesses?

  39. 39.

    germy

    Senate confirms 200th judicial nominee from Trump, a legacy that will last well beyond November

    (WaPo headline)

  40. 40.

    Zinsky

    Democrats should be drafting new articles of impeachment and begin hearings immediately – Trump and Barr!

  41. 41.

    tokyokie

    @germy:

    “There’s no rules about when you can make noise.”

    (Gohmert)

     

    Somebody should remind Gohmert that before Preston Brooks’ literal beat-down of Charles Sumner, neither house had an explicit rule forbidding bludgeoning an opponent.

  42. 42.

    germy

    Gym Jordan might have other things on his mind:

    In a monumental decision on Tuesday, a federal court ruled against Ohio State University to unseal the deposition and the complaint in the lawsuit in which hundreds of men were sexually abused by late Ohio State team doctor Richard Strauss. https://t.co/Kr6OrVY0Xx

    — NBC4 Columbus (@nbc4i) June 23, 2020

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Wish I had realised there was a thread up. I’ve been watching since first gavel.

    Jordan, Collins, and Gohmert are really something else, aren’t they?

  44. 44.

    germy

    I could never be in Congress because if I had a Mueller prosecutor under oath in front of me, the last thing I’d want to do is read a speech.

    — southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 24, 2020

  45. 45.

    Kelly

    @germy:

    “There’s no rules about when you can make noise.”

    (Gohmert)

    Listening while others speak is just another norm

  46. 46.

    germy

    Nadler realizes he forgot to call on the HJC's star witness Aaron Zelinsky who is testifying via video.— Darren Samuelsohn (@dsamuelsohn) June 24, 2020

  47. 47.

    Elizabelle

    @SiubhanDuinne:   I am thinking about their high school teachers, specifically Jordan’s.  And how he/she might be saying:  I shudder at what I am seeing from a grown man.  Oh well, at least there were other students …

    Jordan is a bully, as is Collins.  Cannot address Gohmert because missed that, thank dog.

  49. 49.

    germy

    Rep. Louie Gohmert has three daughters. Caroline, the middle child, is a musician who lives in California under the artist name BELLSAINT. And her latest single is called “Much Like My Father.”

    “Everybody loves you / But there’s poison in the water / You get away with everything / Much like my father,” BELLSAINT begins.

  52. 52.

    Aleta

    Rep. Mike Johnson, LA “We would love to have hearings about the origins of the collusion thing species.”  (rage edit) (sorry)

  53. 53.

    Kropacetic

    @Elizabelle: Jordan is a bully, as is Collins.  Cannot address Gohmert because missed that, thank dog.

    Didn’t see any of it, but may I suggest class clown?

  55. 55.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Elizabelle:

    Jordan is a bully, as is Collins.  Cannot address Gohmert because missed that, thank dog.

    Hopefully, the new unsealed testimony in the OSU Strauss scandal destroys Jordan. He had to have been involved in the cover up

  57. 57.

    bemused

    @Ruckus:

    I think most 3 yr olds, we have 2 grandchildren that age, have a better sense of fairness, sharing, caring about others, manners, etc than R’s. Too bad we can’t force R’s to go back to basics and attend preschool before they go out in the adult world.

  58. 58.

    Kropacetic

    @bemused: I think most 3 yr olds, we have 2 grandchildren that age, have a better sense of fairness, sharing, caring about others, manners, etc than R’s.

    Probably worked hard over their adult lives to forget those things for ideological reasons.

  59. 59.

    Sebastian

    @waspuppet:

    “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.” –Carl Sandburg

  61. 61.

    Benw

    @bemused: my cat has a better sense of decency than these assholes, and my cat spends most of it’s awake time trying to kill birds and chipmunks in my yard

  63. 63.

    Elizabelle

    Uh.  Matt Gaetz.  On the positive side, he’s dressed in an outfit that would look great on a villain in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?  It’s positively cinematic.

    He just dragged Hillary Clinton’s name into this.  Mute.

  66. 66.

    patrick II

    I’m going to guess that two of those judges were anxious to render a decision before the evidence was presented at the hearing today.

  67. 67.

    bemused

    @Elizabelle:

    If only we could send them, all of them, to preschool to learn the basics of fairness, sharing, manners and more. However, they’d all probably be the first preschool group to be expelled for incurable, permanent incorrigibility.

  68. 68.

    Roger Moore

    @Benw:

    my cat has a better sense of decency than these assholes, and my cat spends most of it’s awake time trying to kill birds and chipmunks in my yard

    Killing small animals is a cat’s job.  If only the Republicans in Congress were as dedicated to the job of being legislators as your cat is to its job.

  69. 69.

    Elizabelle

    @bemused:   And they’d drink the paint on purpose.  Because they can. So there.

    I cannot believe this level of misbehavior does not make it to campaign ads.

    We need a Lincoln Project for the states.  Just put up their ridiculousness.  Troy, Ohio:  is this really what you want to send to Congress?

  75. 75.

    jonas

    @SiubhanDuinne: Jordan, Collins, and Gohmert are really something else, aren’t they?

    There’s a reason the GOP leadership put their loudest, stupidest, and most disruptive members on Nadler’s committee — to basically pull shit stunts like this any time someone brings massive criming by Trump to light. By the time they’re done with their tantrums, the hope is that everyone has forgotten who was there to testify or why.

  80. 80.

    Elizabelle

    @Steeplejack:   Thank you.  Will check that out later.

    My slogan for the ads against the GOP idjits:  “Send an adult to Congress.  Please.  Ohio can do better.”

  81. 81.

    Connor

    @Sebastian:

    “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.” – quoted by an Illinois native, Carl Sandburg, in The People, Yes (1936)

    Your link certainly says that Carl Sandburg came up with that line…but your source is wrong. The People, Yes is a book-length poem by Carl Sandburg, and the very-much-NOT-poetry statement about facts and law exists nowhere in it. (I just did a complete electronic scan of the text to check that. It ain’t there, nor any component of it.) The attribution to Sandburg is apocryphal. There is no evidence he ever said it, anywhere. The quote itself, with variations, has been bouncing around courts and the legal profession for more than a century and no one knows where it actually started.

  82. 82.

    Sebastian

    @Connor:

    fair enough and thank you for verifying. I was, as I stated above, merely copy-pasting from the Brennan Center :)

  83. 83.

    James E Powell

    @Connor:

    The quote itself, with variations, has been bouncing around courts and the legal profession for more than a century and no one knows where it actually started.

    When in doubt, give it to Lincoln.

  84. 84.

    debbie

    @germy:
    Someone needs to ask Gym Jordan what he thinks about the document release showing that OSU covered up for Dr. Strauss for decades and whether he thinks there might be some “interesting” information about his own role in the cover-up. It only seems fair. //

  85. 85.

    J R in WV

    @debbie:

    My money thinks Gym Jordan won’t be in the House by election time, once all this information is absorbed by the public. What a loon that guy is. He seems to think that the fastest talker is automatically the correct person with the best facts!

    Not so, Gym!!!

  86. 86.

    dirge

    @Connor: The quote itself, with variations, has been bouncing around courts and the legal profession for more than a century and no one knows where it actually started.

    My father, an attorney, related it to me some time in the 80’s in the form:   “When the facts are on your side, pound on the facts.  When the law is on your side, pound on the law.  When you have neither, pound on the table.”  IMHO, much snappier than the other variations I usually see going around.

  89. 89.

    debbie

    @Connor:

    @Sebastian:

    Carl Sanburg wrote a multi-volume biography of Abraham Lincoln (read it while researching for a history paper in college like a billion years ago). The quote sounds like something Lincoln would have said, so I can believe it’s associated with Sanburg.

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