In the past 24 hours, I have learned of 8 people in my town of 300 who now have tested positive for coronavirus. The closest are the neighbors across the street- she is on day seven, her husband just got a positive result yesterday.
So, like all the other small towns and villages in red states, home crap home now has an outbreak. I am fine, and my parents are fine and still under lock and key, although I do have the same damned head cold I have had for ten days (it comes and goes), but that is an every year occurrence this time of year and my pulse oximeter reads 99% with a pulse of 60 and my temp is consistently 97.5. Speaking of, this made me laugh because for me it is true:
I can handle physical pain like it is no one’s business (I mean I did drive myself to the hospital with an arm shattered in 20 places), but I get a fever or have a cough and am convinced I have lung cancer or am dying.
Doug R
20 places? Makes my driving the truck back to the depot with a dislocated shoulder look like a wimp.
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
so much winning
Obvious Russian Troll
I had a cold last year that wouldn’t go away. Seriously, I had periodically recurring symptoms from November up until March. Then I broke down and used a netti pot and it cleared up pretty quickly. I have found that it helps with my allergies as well.
I do however boil the water first in a tea kettle. Odds you get something nasty from your tap water are low, but not low enough for my taste.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Yikes. I wonder how many people are asymptomatic or ignored minor symptoms. How’s mask compliance in your neck of the holler?
surfk9
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: Their one case got overturned and now they are 0-25
Nicole
I empathize with the usual seasonal annoyances taking on outsized significance this autumn.
So I saw on Twitter that Rudy didn’t know what “opacity” meant and the judge had to correct him. Is this true? I really want it to be true.
Kent
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: Technically the PA Supreme Court case today reversed their one previous win so now they should be 0-2
Edit: I see surfk9 beat me to it.
lamh36
Big Gretch ain’t playing with they azzes
sdhays
I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but Chuck Grassley, 87 years old, now also has “the Rona”. And things are so bad in Iowa that Dollar Store Sarah Palin’s Dollar Store Sarah Palin, Gov. Reynolds, has actually issued a mask mandate. He’s fortunate he’s in Washington and not back in Iowa. They might not have an ICU bed for him if/when he needs it.
zzcool
If you have cold or flu symptoms, get tested.
I don’t know if you have to pay for the test or not but why leave it to chance?
At the very least you can confirm your suspicions.
John Cole
@zzcool: I got tested last week and it was negative.
Jeffro
Hang tough, Cole.
The case counts are just astronomical, almost everywhere in the country. We are rethinking not just our plans for Thanksgiving but even the basic stuff like how often I go to the store (might go back to 2x/month until February). My son’s soccer tournament for this coming weekend is about to get canceled, too – his coach is pressing the league to cancel, calling it a “Covid petri dish” and he’s basically right.
(Halloween + midwest trumpov rallies + Sturgis + idiot GOP governors) x orange moron doing nothing to keep American citizens safe and healthy = disaster.
NotMax
@Nicole
“O’Pacity? You mean that Irish pub down by the docks?”
//
Poptartacus
Sad just fucking sad
Amir Khalid
@Nicole:
Rudy actually thought “opacity” meant transparency. I mean, wow.
Doug R
@Obvious Russian Troll: I heard a horrific story of a woman getting a fatal brain amoeba from her machine-maybe boiling will help.
WaterGirl
@Nicole: I read that on Balloon Juice earlier so it has to be true! :-)
Major Major Major Major
@Jeffro: Hospitalization figures are appalling. It’s going to be a very grim winter.
TS (the original)
You are not alone. Every married man can tell you why his head cold/cough is far worse than that which any woman has ever experienced.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
article is paywalled and I can’t see when this was issued, but Whitmer and Benson seem pretty confident all this sound and fury will end in nothing for the noise-makers
WaterGirl
@sdhays:
I had never seen that to the second degree. Love that.
Doug R
In other blog news, I am getting ads I think for a game where the selling point is some young woman hung from a tree. How is this appropriate in any way?
TS (the original)
@lamh36:
Just reading about this – they really will fight to the end for their right to rule.
Dorothy A. Winsor
The Michigan refusal to certify event is infuriating. Notice it’s Wayne County that’s being denied. Wayne County is Detroit, but it’s also the close in suburbs, including the Grosse Pointes. The R member (chair?) of that electoral certification board is from Grosse Pointe Woods. She says she’d be open to certifying parts of Wayne County other than Detroit.
How can people look at this crap and not decide Rs are trying to undermine democracy? To steal the election they lost?
White & Gold Purgatorian
Stay safe, Cole. This is hitting home in a lot of places.
My sister has been keeping us informed on an elderly lady, kind of a formerly family, in-law sort of situation. This lady was Covid positive a couple of weeks ago. Sis says “she must have caught it at the grocery store because she doesn’t go anywhere but the grocery store and to church.” Okay. A few days later her husband, older and with serious respiratory issues, gets it. “He must have caught it from her (likely) because he doesn’t even go to the store.” But he goes to church, which is a no instrument, singing church, in case it matters. Turns out my young relative and her family, who are currently living in the same house as my seventy something sister, are attending church with these elderly, Covid positive folks. And lo and behold, as of a few days ago a whole bunch of people in the church are Covid positive, too.
Did she catch it at the grocery store and spread it to the congregation, or has it been quietly circulating in the church for weeks? Don’t know, doesn’t matter. The moral of the story is, stay the hell out of crowds, esp. indoor, singing crowds. And wear your damned masks. I’m actually considering double masking since things are heating up here, and seems like everywhere else, too.
geg6
@John Cole:
I know how you feel, Cole. My allergies and chronic sinus problems are playing havoc on me this year, leading to headaches, runny nose, sneezing and coughing. People look at me funny now at work, when they rarely noticed my troubles before. But the university tests staff and faculty who are approved for on-campus work about every three weeks, so I know it’s just a typical fall for me.
I really want this to be over. These stupid mother fuckers who think they are superheroes whose magic power is being impervious to deadly viruses have made that impossible. Ugh, so sick of all the shit. Wish I could be like John Oliver and just blow up 2020.
Yarrow
Stay safe, John. Goes for all the Coles and the pets in those households too.
sdhays
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Too many just don’t care about democracy.
Dan B
@Amir Khalid: Seems like the “Feinstein Funky Brain Plague” is spreading around.
Also the intertubes claim today was Rudy’s first time before a judge in 30 years. Maybe we could give the poor dear a break. /s
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
It’s a silly but dangerous game they’re playing.
Ksmiami
@Dorothy A. Winsor: they are asking for violence and playing with fire…
andy
The county I live in (Crow Wing) is the most bitch red county in the state of Minnesota. Our cases went from 400 a month ago to 2,603 as of today, and I can’t help but think those rallies tr*mp had over in Bemidji and Duluth in the last days of the campaign had something to do with it, since our local redcaps followed them around like deadheads. All the administrators of our area hospitals are super concerned because their ICUs are maxed out or really close. We’ve already had cases of people getting helicoptered out to be intubated in the Twin Cities or Rochester because all the ventilators were in use.
Yarrow
@White & Gold Purgatorian:
Gah! How frustrating it is that people still don’t understand that singing in groups is among the most dangerous things people can do.
zhena gogolia
@geg6:
We’ve been getting tested every week at work, but now that the semester is ending that’s going to stop. I hope there’s somewhere we can get tested even if we have to pay for it, because it really is nice to have that reassurance once in a while.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
“Dear diary,
Today I resoundingly lost another case. But I learned a new word!
That’s all until tomorrow.
Your bestest bud,
Rudy the Great”
zhena gogolia
@Yarrow:
There are people in our church who keep complaining that we’re not meeting in person. They really annoy me.
sdhays
@Doug R: I don’t personally use a netty pot, but my mother does. I understand you want boiled, distilled water so that it’s totally free of just about anything. The boiling should kill any nasty microbes and the distilled water ensures that there aren’t any impurities which could potentially cause you problems.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: it is, I think I heard somebody on the Hayes program say the Woman In Michigan is at least Q curious
sdhays
@Dan B: Here’s hoping he gets lots of face time before a judge in the coming months and years!
Major Major Major Major
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I would love to read some man-on-the-street reporting about what the hell normies think is going on.
What slays me about all of this is that the even in the impossible event that the electoral college vote is totally fucked, the worst that happens is Acting President Pelosi. Not a great constitutional crisis but not exactly an outcome they want. They must know this.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
We should go hard against Q. I think that actually still has a chance of splitting the GOP.
TaMara (HFG)
I need to remind people that some with Covid-19 don’t get fevers. Some folks, myself included have a low temp (around 97.6 to 98) and being extremely cold the entire duration of the illness.
Honestly, I was grateful that was my symptom and not the horrible fever. Throw on a couple of Great Danes and I managed to stay warm. ?
Temp checks are useless if you have that symptom or are asymptomatic.
Humdog
Our area was able to record a reverse death. – 1 reads the death count! Return from the dead? No, the death certificate shows the decedent was a resident of a different county so the death tally goes to that county instead of ours.
bunker down, Cole and the Juicers!
White & Gold Purgatorian
@Yarrow: I’m not sure it is a lack of understanding the dangers. In this case it may be that exposing oneself to the danger is viewed as an act of faith or even a demonstration of faith.
sdhays
@Baud: By “go hard against Q”, what do you mean? Make a list of a bunch of wacko things that Q-heads believe and say every Republican believes this unless they actively deny it?
Sebastian
@NotMax:
They did talk about steakhouses at the end.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: For the rest of that lady’s life, she needs to be followed around by someone chanting, “Shame, shame.” The chanter can ring a bell too, so decent people have a chance to get out of her way.
Omnes Omnibus
@sdhays: I don’t believe in waterboarding.
Gin & Tonic
@Doug R: Hell, my arm was in like 100 pieces when I drove from the ski area to the hospital.
Baud
@sdhays:
Just stand up to them. Call them immoral. Say that decent people shouldn’t associate with them. Give people who walk away from them an olive branch and condemn the rest. Make it shameful to be associated with the Q people.
Jeffro
@Major Major Major Major: yup. We could slam the brakes right now (we won’t) and we’ll be riding this wave up, up, up for a month solid.
I guess we could call this curve many things:
Ugh ugh ugh.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Amir Khalid: to be fair, he only guessed it probably meant transparency
from what I’m seeing on twitter, seems like Judge Brann has a dry sense of humor, a lot of patience, and found today’s proceedings fairly amusin
ETA: that’s $20K/day lawyering
Obvious Russian Troll
@Doug R: Which is exactly why I boil it. I let it go five minutes, then I let it cool.
Jeffro
In a perfect world, she’d be standing on a trap door and the trigger button would be the ‘k’ on my keyboard…oopsie!
debbie
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch:
Nice! Rudy must be disbarred.
geg6
@zhena gogolia:
Thankfully, I’ll still be getting tested even after students leave because I will still be on campus two days a week except for winter break. But I will still be tested at least once over break because we’re required to be tested before we come back after 1/1/21. Students won’t be back for another two weeks after that and they will have to test before coming back. I really feel my university has done as good a job as possible under insane circumstances. I haven’t agreed with everything, but so far, so good.
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Hopefully this will backfire.
I can’t imagine that the folks in Georgia aren’t paying attention, and aren’t just as pissed as we are, maybe more.
All the people with a last name that starts with M, your votes don’t count. Anybody with a birthday in October, your votes don’t count. They are so far beyond a slippery slope that it’s like a bullet train going downhill.
We are about an inch away from being a banana republic. Or several thousand votes in 4 states.
lamh36
@John Cole: last week, I started having a sinus drip right before going on my birthday trip this year.
I’ve had it happen before, where I had a bit of a sinus drip a night and it turns into this bad nasal ingestion. Sometimes the nasal congestion goes away quickly, but other times, the nasal congestion goes to my ears and I have this ear congestion as well.
Once it became really bad and I ended up with a dual ear infection.
This time, the ear congestion lasted longer than before, but it got better, but thanks to all the coughing, I’ve got laryngitis pretty bad for a couple of days.
Usually, I just wait it out and I go to work after the sinus congestion lays off a bit, and just wait patiently for the ear congestion and laryngitis to go away.
I knew it wasn’t COVID, just the same sinusitis I always get round this time. Now because of COVID precautions, I couldn’t go back to work until I had a negative COVID test.
Even thought I knew it wasn’t COVID, I was soo worried that the test would be positive even knowing what I know about the virus.
So the negative test was great, but for the past 10 days while I was waiting for the test results it was nervewracking.
I went back to work yesterday. I still have laryngitis, so I sound worse than I feel, but I’m glad to not have COVID
Immanentize
Y’all stay safe and healthy. The things we fight for:
WaterGirl
@Baud: They have watched everything Trump has gotten away with, and they are now totally brazen and just as reckless.
I have to believe there will be consequences for this.
Jeffro
Agreed. I don’t see a down side in calling out the Q nuts and seeing if any remaining non-Q Republicans want to avoid debasing themselves like that. Treat Q kooks like the lowlife weirdos that they are and talk about it openly and often.
I’m not sure “you don’t have to like us much or join us Dems forever, but that Q shit is NUTS” is the best argument to those remaining Rs, but hey, they’ll have to make their own decisions. None of us have time to worry about wordsmithing it to appeal to their delicate sensitivities.
Ruckus
@TaMara (HFG):
My temp has been standard around 97-97.2 for most of my life. Nurses and docs never get excited when they see this and in hot conditions or if I’ve been working out it will go up to about 98.6. I was hospitalized once for 9 days, 7 of them with a fever of 105. Good times.
Major Major Major Major
@Jeffro: It’s clearly the face-eating leopard curve.
Cermet
@sdhays: Distilled water is boiled water – it is the condense water vapor from the boiling process.
Major Major Major Major
COWARDS!
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: @Omnes Omnibus:
I don’t believe in water boarding, either. But I do love Dorthy’s punishment, outlined in #47.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Like I said, silly but dangerous.
At least some people will be able to sleep tonight.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
The church next door has resumed services. The congregation is largely elderly and the church has a good-sized daycare center. Not a good combination.
Shakti
So my major advisor from my undergraduate days died on Friday. He was extremely generous with his time and intellectual resources with his students. He was only 53 and they say he died of a heart attack in his sleep. But the thing is, he was an extremely active man who did a lot of kayaking, river rescue and cross country camping trips in his spare time.
I kept thinking of covid.
I’m still in shock.
Meanwhile: I’m trying to talk sense into my mother who really wants to go “help” her friend prepare Thanksgiving dinner. Sure there will only be “6 people.” She’s over 65. My dad is over 70 with sleep apnea, blood sugar issues and a whole host of medical problems. He’s itchy so he went back to work at the hospital even though he’s retired. My brother goes out to eat every other day and will literally do everything he’s legally allowed to do. He went to a Bucs game last week.
Meanwhile, the most risky thing I’ve done since March is have my eye doctor treat my fun auto-immune condition that likes to flare up under stress. I get groceries and medications. That’s about it. Maybe I’m the one who is nuts.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Major Major Major Major: Too late. That lady still gets the Shame chant and the bell.
Miss Bianca
Yeah, there’s been quite an outbreak in my county, too. We suddenly have 50 cases – 17 in the past seven days alone. I am steeling myself to watch the footage of the Board of Health meeting from this afternoon, wherein all the Republican county officials who were just fine with allowing superspreader events to take place – and are only just now getting on board with universal masking up not being a liberal hoax – are going to spend 2 1/2 hours bleating, “how did this HAPPEN? What are we gonna DO?” (Narrator voice: Nothing to the purpose).
Ugh. Meanwhile, my theater is still closed. At this rate, I will be amazed if we open up at all in 2021. : (
Ruckus
@Gin & Tonic:
Had a buddy get his foot crushed between a rock and his motorcycle, he had to ride about 20 miles to the truck, his friends took him to ER, he had them cast it because he didn’t trust them and then flew 2400 miles to home so he could go to an ortho that we both used. The ortho told me that it was so shattered that it was like a jig saw puzzle putting it back together. Buddy walked just fine 6 months later.
Miss Bianca
@Obvious Russian Troll: I used to use distilled water for that purpose, back in the day.
debbie
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Q seems like the logical next step for RWNJs.
Kent
@Major Major Major Major: Black twitter was exploding and they realized that several hundred thousand very enraged Detroiters know where they live
Amateur racist coup plotters don’t like having their dirty hands exposed to the world.
lamh36
@Major Major Major Major: I just saw that.
Maybe shaming racist actually fuq’n works. They both were being dragged as the racist POS they are and didnt want any of that smoke.
But it’s too damn late now. We have LONGGGG memories.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Major Major Major Major:
Well, that didn’t last long. What’s the point of doing an audit now after they’ve certified the election results?
Gin & Tonic
@Ruckus: Yeah, I wasn’t going to stay in Brattleboro, so they cast it and I drove home 2 1/2 hours so I could go to a better ortho.
TaMara (HFG)
@Ruckus: My temp is normally 99. My cousin was lamenting he could never get a sick day as a kid because his normal temp was about 97.5, so even if he had a slight fever, he rarely hit 99. :-)
As sick as I was with Covid, I couldn’t imagine it with that horrible fever.
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I would pay to watch that on pay-for-view.
trnc
@Major Major Major Major: Dammit! I thought I had the scoop. I just saw Michigan SOS Benson announce that on CNN. She apparently learned it during the commercial break. I sure did LMAO.
Nice catch!
Major Major Major Major
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): It’s face-saving.
(There are some minor inconsistencies which are pretty common and I think get fixed later when all the precincts are reconciled)
Omnes Omnibus
Audits happen after every election. And an audit could find problems that need to be fixed, just ones that wouldn’t change the result.
Miss Bianca
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Ah, Grosse Pointe. My old home town – should I say, towns. I lived in Grosse Pointe proper – Grosse Pointe City. It did seem to me that the farther from Detroit’s actual border the Pointes got, the (even) more right-wing and racist they got. Woods is pretty far east.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kent: was would-be Senator John James available for comment?
hitchhiker
@andy:
That makes me so bananas. Big “Democrat” city hospital and staff resources are apparently a-ok for the redhats who otherwise think we’re all contemptible.
Old Dan and Little Ann
@Baud: I was hazing a Q nut I’ve known for 35 years on the book of faces last night. I ignore him usually but when he appears on a mutual friend’s post I sometimes can’t resist. He got mad I said that these election fraud claims are bullshit. He,posted an article about child porn on Hunters laptop being front page news in Australia. So I looked it up and told him it was on the 24th page of an Australian tabloid., Crickets after that.
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major: Good. Not that makes those Republicans any better people, but at least they’re evil and afraid.
lamh36
@lamh36:
Black folks take a LOT instride but these 2 showed who they REALLY are and we will never forget it.
debbie
@lamh36:
This American Life ran a segment on the recount in Detroit. Just appalling. I’m glad they got called out.
catclub
Trump will stiff him. He didn’t win.
dmsilev
@hitchhiker: I’ve said this before: a precondition for being medevaced to the big city or whatever is to sign an affidavit that you willingly have accepted help from Those People and that you are in their debt. Repeat offenders get the affidavit tattooed onto their foreheads.
See also: farm subsidies.
raven
Wayne County certified. . .after fuck face tweeted!
Dorothy A. Winsor
I am really grateful to be able to share my outrage with BJ. I really can’t believe what I’m seeing out there. You all keep me sane.
Lawrence Sportello
How does a man this angry have a pulse of 60? Is it all Steve?
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Were those 2 women on twitter? Would they even have known that black twitter was furious? Even if they did know, why would that surprise them? It’s the totally obvious reaction when someone does something terrible and unjust. Did they really think they could overthrow the votes and no one would care?
If so, how much terrible crap have they gotten away with in their lives, that they would think they could pull that off without consequences?
Major Major Major Major
@WaterGirl: They had a comment hotline I think.
WaterGirl
@raven: who is fuck face?
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: A comment hotline for vote certification?
Ruckus
@Shakti:
People can get an HA no matter the shape they are in. I did. And didn’t even know I’d had one. One look at my cardiogram and the doc said you’ve had an HA. Said that 60% of people having an HA don’t know they have.
You are assuredly not.
trnc
C’mon, now! We both know that Trump would stiff him even if he DID win.
Jeffro
@Major Major Major Major: that too
“But I was certain that my Kool-Aid would be just fine! (sob) (gasp) (gack)”
Kent
@lamh36: Apparently the Facebook page of one of GOP canvassers is riddled with racist claptrap. They were getting exposed big time. Next step was several thousand pissed of people in their front yards.
raven
95% at 69. Not bad for someone 20 years old than the dude.
westyny
Looks like the Republican board members have made explicitly racist social media posts. Stay safe, Cole.
Major Major Major Major
(nm)
raven
@Ruckus: When I broke my back in a van wreck I got up and walked around and held my arms over my head because it hurt less. They got me to the ER and flipped me over for an hour taking x-rays and couldn’t find anything. Finally they shot laterals and found the break on the sides of the spine. Two months later I got up and walked out of that sucker with rods on my spine and a full plaster body cast.
dmsilev
@westyny: Since one of them said during the hearing that she would be fine certifying everything except Detroit, discovering the racist posts was a matter of when, not if.
lamh36
@WaterGirl: it was a man and a woman. And yes I believe they were on twitter. Folks had started posting racist retweets and stuff from their respective social medias
Kent
People were Doxing those two GOP canvassers on Facebook. Going after their employment and everything. For example:
facebook.com/mark.schmandt/posts/10219900437121330
Ruckus
@TaMara (HFG):
Had that happen once in the navy. Fever was 100 and they only called you sick if it was over 100.
That 9 days in hospital was in the navy. Day after inoculations. Several pneumatic shots in both arms and I believe 4 with needles. Covered everything under the sun, they didn’t know where you’d be sent after you transferred. Passed out in the morning chow line, of course no one heard the screaming voice in my head to catch me as I fell.
Ksmiami
@Jeffro: Draaaaag her… the GOP is an anti-Democracy menace
raven
@Ruckus: That air gun was a gas!
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
Fixed.
Major Major Major Major
@WaterGirl:
lamh36
@WaterGirl: this guy ripped them apart to their faces apparently: twitter.com/FirenzeMike/status/1328880419106942979
Folks…folks called them out to they faces…they couldn’t handle the smoke! twitter.com/PettyLupone/status/1328891144562900992?s=20Here's another person who ripped them apart: twitter.com/PettyLupone/status/1328891144562900992?s=20
Martin
Ali Velshi just mentioned that ⅓ of the staff at the Mayo Clinic have tested positive in the last 2 weeks. That’s getting close to a functional collapse of one of the top hospitals in the nation.
And I’m with Cole. I walked around for days with a broken foot, waving off suggestions I get it checked out until my foot turned purple (not my normal color). But if I get cold/fever, I’m completely nonfunctional.
sdhays
@Kent: Under normal circumstances, I’d say that’s not cool. But when you’re trying to abuse your authority as the most basic functionary of a democracy to try to jump start a fascist coup, I say you’ve reaped what you’ve sown.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kent: I generally disapprove of doxxing as far as home addresses go, but “Hi company that does business with the public! Did you know you pay a racist?” is fine by me.
Martin
My vote to be added to the rotating tags.
Miss Bianca
@Major Major Major Major: Oh, myyyy…instant karma gonna get you.
mrmoshpotato
@sdhays: Here’s hoping he gets lots of in your face Ghouliani! time before a judge in the coming months and years! SAD!
raven
@Ruckus: Pistol Pete and Jim Fixx for two.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: GOP splits into Nazis and Nutjobs?
Kent
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Basically she was pulling the regular racist suburban Karen act but on live TV. And it wasn’t some teenager she was dissing. It was a million Black residents of Detroit.
I’m guessing they both started to pucker up pretty quickly when they realized they had bitten off more than they could chew.
Martin
@Kent: There is always a legal system. If the formal state one fails, people substitute their own.
This is why Biden can’t ‘move on’. If you don’t hold people accountable to the law, then you might as well not bother having laws at all.
sdhays
@Martin: This would be a great question on the post-Trebek Jeopardy:
lamh36
@Kent: they got called out to their faces by the other members of the canvassin board. Two members I’ve seen so far, a White guy and a Black woman…DRAGGED them for filth to their faces.
Called them racist POS by name!
WaterGirl
@lamh36: ah! maybe shaming does work.
zhena gogolia
@geg6:
Ours has done a good job too. And the students have really stepped up to the plate.
WaterGirl
@Kent: That made my night:
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: What did these people think would happen?
Hat trick! Racist, evil and stupid.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
will it be Ben Shapiro or Erick Erickson who refer to the twitter dragging as “mob violence”? and will it be before midnight eastern?
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
hahahahaha
Citizen Alan
@sdhays:
Why shouldn’t we do that?!? For eight years, Barack Obama was literally held responsible for the actions of every black person in America!
rikyrah
I am getting more terrified everyday.
I want for our Governor to just shut shyt down again.
gwangung
@Major Major Major Major: LMAO.
Treating the voters as faceless “others” is probably not a good idea when you live close to them.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Loved the first one! I could watch that all day.
On to watch the second one.
debbie
@lamh36:
That first link was some takedown!
Kent
And they know where you live and where you work.
rikyrah
Was just watching Maddow with Ali -900 staff AT THE MAYO CLINIC HAVE COVID – 19.
sdhays
@Citizen Alan: Tone is often missing in comments. My question was genuine – I just was curious how Baud envisioned “going hard against Q”.
zhena gogolia
@sdhays:
hahahaha
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Righteous anger. Both of these people do anger much better than I do!
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: That’s a tag that’ll probably be rejected.
Citizen Alan
@dmsilev:
He won’t do it, he’s too good a man. But I really wish Biden and the Democrats would just zero out all the farm subsidies for every Congressional district that doesn’t have either a Dem rep or a Dem Senator. And I say that as a Mississippian where probably 1/3 of the population would be homeless without farm aid.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
from the one racist’s twitter feed: PBS unfair to hitler
Kent
It’s the second biggest bargaining chip they have to get Dem budget priorities through Congress (after defense spending).
Another Scott
@Amir Khalid: That’s not even the best part.
Liz Dye live blog at Wonkette.
Cheers,
Scott.
zhena gogolia
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
“than the Nazis and Communists combined”? What party does he imagine Mao belonged to?
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: Nodding in agreement.
Jeffro
@Kent: GOOD
These folks think they can fling their racist poo everywhere and not face any consequences. Sorry social media didn’t turn out to be the carefree racist-venting fantasyland you hoped it would be, jerkoffs!
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@zhena gogolia: you can go on the quest direct website site and order an Active Covid nasal swab test (as opposed to the antibody test that detects if you had it in the past). No doctors order needed. Costs about 130$ you can chose to have it sent to you to do youself at home or you can pay for the test and make an appointment. I plan to do this and have already ordered my home test. Just was informed by my work that a second person so far this month, has tested positive in my building. While I have been told we would be informed if we had been near the positive person, I am literally all over the building every day. I would rather take a test than keep wondering.
zhena gogolia
@EmbraceYourInnerCrone:
$130 is pretty steep for one test, isn’t it?
Jeffro
@lamh36: LOL
just another example of ‘cancel culture’, right trump cult? The screaming mob demanding…that their votes count??
Another Scott
ICYMI, Evan Hurst at Wonkette has the latest on Graham’s Attempted Crime Call (with witnesses):
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@Miss Bianca: ?Gonna punch right in your fucking fascist face!?
lamh36
scav
@WaterGirl: The first guy especially did anger with a stream of facts — they both ranked high on that actually, maybe I just remember them more when combined with the dismissive it’s not going to change your mind but here’s another reason why you’re both blatantly inconsistent and utterly going to lose anyway mode. Anyway, righteous and enjoyable.
zhena gogolia
@mrmoshpotato:
youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I
Jeffro
@Kent: yup. they all want to act out for their fearless orange moron leader, until they realize…no one’s running cover for them. They’re going to bear the consequences, unlike trumpov.
Jeffro
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: just more ‘cancel culture’
Just waiting for them to drop “all the violence is on the Left”, too
Steeplejack
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch:
And I thought the one in the 1-25 got reversed.
ETA: As noted by others above.
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: :(
WaterGirl
@Jeffro:
Sadly, too long for a rotating tag.
Philbert
WaterGirl
@scav: I so admire when people can do that when they are angry. Remember the fellow who lit into the (city council or school board?) about renaming the school?
There was some white lady shopping on her laptop at the meeting and he called her out for it, and he called out a bunch of the people by name. He was so eloquent, just like this guy tonight.
When I get angry, I mostly get quiet. Which is very unsatisfying!
Steeplejack
@Obvious Russian Troll:
I use bottled distilled water. I don’t use a neti pot, though. I put the salt mix and the water in a cup and sort of snuffle it up a noseful at a time. (Maybe TMI.)
Omnes Omnibus
@Philbert: They lost.
Hey Blue
@Doug R: Distilled water.
I used to get sinus infections several times a year, but after a regimen of daily sinus rinses I rarely get them any more, and if I do feel one coming on doubling the rinses to twice a day takes care of it in short order. Haven’t had to see my doctor for antibiotics in years.
But yeah, be safe. Distilled water.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: Do you know if positions like this are elected or appointed? Seems like someone should be screening for things like rampant racism and belief in conspiracy theories.
CaseyL
John, I am so sorry to hear about your sweet little hometown. It must doubly suck since you know everyone, or nearly everyone. Have you heard anything from your various frat brothers, how they’re doing?
Washington state is back in lockdown, though not as rigorous as March-May. Very little has changed for me, since I wasn’t doing any of the things we’re barred from doing now. (Wait, I take that back: I did eat indoors at a restaurant about a month or so ago, with my bubble-peeps.).
Meantime, I freak out every time I get a throat tickle or feel congestion in the back of my nose.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@WaterGirl: Ned Staebler retweeted by conservative writer Tim Alberta of Politico. This may blow back big time on any further fuckery they want to attempt
I actually do find it kind of reassuring that public exposure can scare these cockroaches
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@CaseyL:
Me too, and I’m hearing it from a lot of people in meatspace
Patricia Kayden
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Omnes Omnibus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: They are shitheads. They are going to behave like shitheads. This should not be a surprise. It isn’t working though. The election won’t go to the House. Biden will become president.
cain
@Amir Khalid:
Maybe he’s been working on web pages and thought it was a CSS thing?
Mai Naem mobile
@lamh36: let’s just understand that the GOP isn’t going to be content until three blacks votes are counted for every five white votes. They’ll be thrilled if voting goes back to only white male property owners but even they don’t think they can go back that far.
cain
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
But those two? Their careers should end and I mean seriously – we will need to get even. They should be a price to pay. What I’m thinking is that any time they interact with govt – things happen – lost paperwork, whatever – their lives should be frustrated.
Chetan Murthy
@Obvious Russian Troll: Re: neti pots, absolutely you should always use distilled water, or boil tap water for a good long while. The brain-eating bug is Naegleria fowleri, and yeah, it’s an amoeba that’ll kill you. From what I remember, there’s not much doctors can do. Don’t get it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naegleria_fowleri#Treatment
Kent
They are like the velociraptors, always probing every inch of the electric fence, looking for any weakness to exploit. We must be ever vigilant. And weaponize the response. Destroy some lives and make them pay. So that others have second thoughts about following suit.
cain
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I think a lot of black folks should be hanging around her house – often. Shes a karen. She needs to be fucked with – often.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Omnes Omnibus: I agree
“Rudy people”
They’ve lost in MI, I think PA. Last I heard about WI was they were going to make trump pay for a recount, and the deadline for the ask is approaching? They’ve pissed off the GA SoS who may not back down. I tend to engage in what I’ve recently learned is called “catastrophic thinking”, but I don’t see Rudi G taking this to the House.
mad citizen
@Cermet: True but you need a still to collect the condensate to have distilled water. Otherwise you have boiled water, with all the “impurities” etc. The boiling kills the living stuff, depending on how long you boil it (not a camper so don’t know the particulars). So much easier to buy distilled water. Guess it does bring up the question of “does anyone ever test distilled water to ensure it is indeed that.”
I knew my chemistry major would come in handy sometime! I once forgot to turn on the cooling water in an organic distillation and had a beautiful, momentary explosion up to the ceiling–no fire.
Kent
@mad citizen: Exactly. Boiled and distilled are not the same thing at all.
Geoduck
@CaseyL: As a fellow WA state resident, one thing that the lockdown triggered was another run on toilet paper. Evidently every store is getting stripped clean.
Yarrow
@Mai Naem mobile:
Sure they do. About 10-12 years ago I remember hearing Rush Limbaugh say on his show that the country went to hell when women got the right to vote. They’ve made comments about only property owners should have the right to vote just in the last year or two. Their goal is white male ownership of everyone else.
MisterForkbeard
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: IIRC, they have until tomorrow night to ask for the recount in WI.
Agree that this doesn’t appear to be going anywhere, but they’re selling this idea HARD to their cult. I see a lot of it from commenters on facebook, including a particularly deranged “Biden only has one path to the presidency but Trump has several, and the only way Biden wins is if he cheats.”
I’m heartened by how much people are telling them to STFU or just ignoring them.
mrmoshpotato
@zhena gogolia: ?When we smack some Trump trash in their fascist face. Fuck ’em! Fuck ’em!?
Philbert
@Omnes Omnibus: yes, this time, but they will keep coming.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
not public for long, I’m betting
rikyrah
@Shakti:
nope.
you are not nuts
Luciamia
@catclub: Trump prefers lawyers who know what words mean.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Philbert: which court? which state? they’ll try. I don’t see a path to success
frosty
@WaterGirl: I’ve noticed a lot more “nominated” than “that should be nominated” lately. Yay! My work here is done!
Suzanne
PA just came out with updated orders today, the most pertinent being that everyone is now supposed to mask indoors, even if social distancing. My colleagues and I are no longer sharing the office space, we’re rotating days so that only one person is in the office at a time, I don’t love that from a personal security point of view.
I took SuzMom to the grocery store (Aldi) this evening around 7PM. It was not very busy, which was the general idea. I’ve been trying to do any shopping at off hours. I like Aldi, but I usually alternate my shopping between there and Trader Joe’s. I think Trader Joe’s has been doing a better job with the Rona protocols. I might go to TJs on Thursday and do Thanksgiving shopping.
God, this is so stressful.
scav
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: horse, barn door. Pppoooooooorrrrr little man of formally international anonymity.
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
I love Spike Jones’s permascowl.
Madeleine
@lamh36: I lived near Detroit for many years. Listening to those two speak was fun!
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
Practicing one-upmanship on Spike Jones?
:)
frosty
@Suzanne: Giant (not Giant Eagle) today: 100% masked, 100% masked correctly. Whew!
cain
@trnc:
Can we pleae stop having “stiff” and “Trump” in the same sentence.. this is a family friendly blog or at least a Lilly friendly one!
Bill Arnold
@Major Major Major Major:
The Law of Republican Projection means that this statement means that the Michigan SoS should audit all other precincts, instead.
NotMax
@NotMax
And now I see zhena gogolia got there first.
:)
Steeplejack
@Suzanne:
Based on what I have seen personally and what I have heard from my friend who works at Trader Joe’s, they seem to be doing a good job on coronavirus safety measures.
Suzanne
@hitchhiker:
I know. It’s crazy-making. And in conservative comment sections, you see these terrible people who get halfhard thinking about civil war and “starving out the cities” because they think rural areas have all the food and guns. I also want to point out that urban areas have all of the medical care and logistics.
Kent
@Bill Arnold: It is all complete bullshit. What they are talking about is that the roster of signed voters does’t exactly match the number of counted ballots in a specific precinct. Which frequently happens for a variety of innocent reasons. Someone could sign into a polling place and then see the line and decide they don’t have time and just blow it off. If they didn’t follow through and cast a ballot the numbers would be off. Likewise, counting machines could have spit out a ballot or had two stick together or something and the count could get off by one the other direction. It isn’t any actual evidence of fraud. Just the small amounts of imprecision involved when millions of people vote.
TriassicSands
Oh, they’d just move someone into the hall or the alley out back to make room for the
disHonorable Chuck Grassley.John Cole
@Lawrence Sportello:
The key is to let the anger out and don’t keep it all bottled inside like a pressure cooker.
Matt McIrvin
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: I worry about bizarre low-probability scenarios a lot, but I don’t understand how this “force it to the House” strategy is supposed to work!
I’ve repeatedly checked the text in the 12th Amendment about this. It says that to win outright, you need a majority of the votes of electors appointed. It doesn’t say you need 270; that’s just how many you need if they’re all appointed. If they’re not, the threshold goes down. You can’t prevent a majority by just keeping them from being appointed!
(Unless, of course, you end up with an exact tie, but that’s not what they’re talking about.)
Kent
@Matt McIrvin: It also assumes that the House will just roll over and certify the coup attempt as valid. Pelosi can just withhold certification of the electoral college result if they find it illegitimate and the resulting stalemate will produce acting president Pelosi on January 20 when Trump’s term expires.
That essentially happened in 1876 when there was an electoral college standoff and Congress eventually kicked to to a commission to resolve. The Republican Hayes ended up winning essentially by bribing the Democratic House with the offer to dial back Reconstruction.
Bottom line. The House only has to let it go to a vote of state delegations if it wants to. Pelosi and the Democrats can stop it before that happens.
Rokka
@Steeplejack: I used an N95 mask with vents last April. I taped the vents with clear tape, went to Trader Joe’s and the guy at the door asks me if the vents are taped. I say yes and he lets me in. The next time I went there, another guy at the door won’t let me in and won’t take my word that the vents are taped. Thirty seconds later, he pitches a fit and goes inside to get the manager with about ten people behind me in line.
A few minutes later the manager comes out. I take off the mask, show him that it’s taped and they finally let me in. I immediately run into a shopper wearing a bandana. I started using white tape after that.
Steeplejack
@Rokka:
I guess they’re sort of erring on the side of more compliance. Although nothing’s perfect. And that was back in April or May, right?
My friend said the “crew members,” or whatever they’re called, are good about safety procedures even out of sight of the customers, and the company keeps them informed with all-staff meetings when policies change or someone tests positive. (They had two back in March-April, none since then.)
The other two stores I go to, the substandard Safeway and the super Giant, seem to have pretty good procedures and customer compliance. I still try to get in and out as quickly as possible.
J R in WV
@Doug R:
So they work it so you want the KKK terrorist to win, somehow?
Disgusting, Despicable, grossly inhuman. That’s my short rant. I don’t want to hut=rt my tentacles typing the longer rant.
Freemark
@Yarrow: Not in Church where the blood of the white Christ will protect them.
Freemark
@Geoduck: I’ve been keeping a six month supply on hand since March.
rosalind
@Nicole: oh it’s true, gloriously true. Rudy said something like “I imagine it means transparent” and the Judge is “no, it means not transparent”. i listened to the second session after the break and just cringed/laughed through the whole thing. not a good sign when the Judge goes “Are you writing this down? That’s what lawyers do, they write things down.”