Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“woke” is the new caravan.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

The words do not have to be perfect.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Come on, man.

Today’s GOP: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    I have never heard of ‘The Nib’ before this post.

    Somehow, that doesn’t bother me.

  2. 2.

    The Thin Black Duke

    I think these folks are growing more irrelevant every day, and they know it.

  3. 3.

    Major Major Major Major

    @dmsilev: They have some good stuff! Like Tom Tomorrow. And the “we should improve society somewhat” cartoon of course. It’s cool that they’re an independent comic site that pays decently for nonfiction cartoons.​

    I mean, they also have bad stuff, it’s a mixed bag, but I’m glad it’s around.

  4. 4.

    JaySinWA

    Does somebody have a Mall Krampus to Boomer translation

    ETA it’s like coming into a performance in the middle after all the character backstory has been laid out

    ETA 2 Ok, looking at the tweets it is in response to the cartoon. I think I know what all the words mean, but damn if I can really understand what he is saying.

  5. 5.

    KrackenJack

    I know I’m too deep in my epistemologically closed bubble to gauge what the median voter is hearing about ARA versus the poo-flinging of the day. I’ll look out for the poll numbers to see if they think it is as much of a BFD as we do.

  6. 6.

    Major Major Major Major

    @KrackenJack: if Dems are smart they’ll really hammer home that every cent people are getting comes from this bill. And it’s ok if it takes a little while—parents will be mighty grateful to get a huge refundable tax credit next spring, just in time for the midterm campaign.

  7. 7.

    Emma from FL

    I am so out of modern comic culture that I had no idea who Lola Bunny is. And I could have gone for 64 more years without the knowledge.

  8. 8.

    Splitting Image

    @dmsilev: 

    I have never heard of ‘The Nib’ before this post.

    Somehow, that doesn’t bother me.

    The Nib is actually a site hosting cartoons from a lot of different artists. Some of them are very good and worth checking out, but like every site with a lot of contributors there are bound to be a few duds.

  9. 9.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Unrelated to the topic at hand: My father put a trail cam on our land in northern WI, and he went and pulled images off if it yesterday. So far, he has images of deer, foxes (well, a fox), coyotes, and wolves. I am really kind of excited by the fact that we have wolves.*

    *And, yes, the difference between the coyotes and the wolves is quite notable.

  10. 10.

    jl

    All I know is that if you counted the Dem covid recovery  bill in pennies, and piled them all up on top of each other, it would go the moon. The moon, I tells ya… the moon!

    All right thinking Americans will be horrified!

    If you count it up in months of back rent, and unpaid utility bills, it might get a person out from underwater and through next week. But who cares about that?

  12. 12.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    If Twitter was real life then Bernie wouldna lost every county in Michigan

    In the days leading up to a must-win Tuesday Michigan primary, Bernie Sanders crisscrossed the state, firing up thousands of supporters and taking the stage with star surrogates in a bid to repeat his momentum-shifting 2016 upset of Hillary Clinton.

    As the polls closed, it seemed to some that a surprise win might not be out of the question. But not for long.

    The crushing reality of defeat hit the Michigan Sanders campaign staff at a downtown Detroit watch party by 9pm. News outlets called the race for Joe Biden, all but sealing the former vice-president’s nomination and Sanders’ now likely defeat in the race overall. Several staffers shed tears. Others left the party early.

    Sanders supporter Kevin Neems called the results “depressing”.

    “It’s just hard to understand. Hard to comprehend. Hard to wrap your head around,” he said.

    It was hard to comprehend because Twitter isn’t real life.​​

  14. 14.

    West of the Rockies

    @JaySinWA:

    I thought it was just me, that I’m getting old and am on the verge of griping, “Eh?  What’s that?  Speak up, sonny!”

  18. 18.

    Poe Larity

    Now lets be fair. It is possible to seriously misunderestimate people’s imaginations of 1996.

    Who here grew up on Charlie’s Angels or the Hasselhof?

  19. 19.

    Roger Moore

    Given the choice between abandoning Bernie and abandoning their belief the Democrats are the worst, they’ll abandon Bernie.  Saying anything good about anything the Democrats have done is a betrayal.

  20. 20.

    KrackenJack

    @Major Major Major Major: Agreed. I think the other benefit is that the Dems got it done fast. The right wing Wurlitzer didn’t have time to get cranked up. The ACA negotiation stretched on long enough that the right got to demonize it. Then it became more difficult to campaign on.

    In a related note: The right’s message discipline and framing effectiveness has definitely decayed post-Obama. Having the base fall down the rabbit hole and Trump’s chaotic evil are probably to blame along with a flood of lunatics and sub-replacement level grifters into the party apparatus.

  23. 23.

    MattF

    Wonkette notes that WandaVision has political relevance (of all things):

    Wanda (Elizabeth Olsen) finds real life too overwhelming and retreats into a fake world, shaped by nostalgia and her desire for “simpler” times that never actually existed. Because this is Marvel, Wanda’s nervous breakdown manifests in a literal sense: She magically creates a classic sitcom reality for herself, but while her actions aren’t malicious or even intentional at first, they aren’t harmless. She’s trapped an entire town within her delusions. They have no choice but to play along.

    This is what it feels like to live among a significant number of Republican voters these days. It’s impossible to engage with people who are desperate to believe lies. Whenever Wanda was confronted with the truth, she rewrote reality, often defiantly, and even physically banished a Black woman from her pleasant neighborhood.

     
    Didn’t see this myself, but it’s true. And so, to bed.

  24. 24.

    patrick II

    Youtube has a 10-minute highlight reel of Sunday night’s NBA all-star game. If you are a basketball fan at all, you may want to check out the long-distance shooting of Steph and Damian. The best I have ever seen.

  25. 25.

    JWR

    Matt Bors: “Thanks, Dems!”

    Unless I’m misreading something, I’ll say that Bors is usually better than this. Not always, but better.

    In any case, I’m happy with The Nib, if only for Tom Tomorrow.

  26. 26.

    Poe Larity

    @MattF: Aha! This dovetails with my theory that this senseless show is really a platform for her sister twins to return to save her and reestablish their careers.

    I’ll predict Hannah Montana makes a cameo soon.

  28. 28.

    jl

    @MattF: So that’s what WandaVision is. I’ll have to check it out.

    The Wonkette link was interesting, and I for one will be happy if the Congressional GOP leadership spends its time reading Dr. Seuss and making pancakes from stale boxes of Aunt Jemima pancake mix.

    And regarding the pancakes, I saw a news story which said that Aunt Jemina was not the original name of the product, IIRC. They apparently adopted the character back when it was fashionable to soften and sentimentalize the brutal Jim Crow regime and make some money off of it.

  29. 29.

    JWR

    @KrackenJack:

    I think the other benefit is that the Dems got it done fast. The right wing Wurlitzer didn’t have time to get cranked up.

    So much This. Mitch and the Muskovites appeared to be shell-shocked at the speed with which a cohesive, united, well-oiled Democratic party could operate. Adding that I was gonna say a well-oiled Dem machine, but that could be open to negative interpretation. ;)

  30. 30.

    HumboldtBlue

    @patrick II: ​
     

    I just read a tweet about how it’s Dame time whenever he wants it to be, and he’s playing in another realm.

    There are few more satisfying athletic forms than Dame or Steph shooting 3s.

  32. 32.

    Martin

    @patrick II: Not a basketball fan, I cannot help but admire Stephs ability to drop 3 from anywhere. How do you defend a guy who shoots over 40% from 30-35 feet? I mean, that’s just game-breaking.

  34. 34.

    HumboldtBlue

    @Martin:

    Oddly enough, Steph’s younger brother, Seth (who plays for my Sixers), has the second highest 3-point average in NBA history behind only the man who currently coaches Steph, Steve Kerr.

  35. 35.

    Brachiator

    @Major Major Major Major:

    if Dems are smart they’ll really hammer home that every cent people are getting comes from this bill. And it’s ok if it takes a little while—parents will be mighty grateful to get a huge refundable tax credit next spring, just in time for the midterm campaign.

    People may feel warm towards the Democrats, but otherwise they will simply incorporate all this into their lives and move on. How people feel next spring will depend on what else is happening in their lives. Do they have a job, are their lives better, etc.

    But as others have noted, the GOP is really deep diving into anger and irrelevance. I don’t know how a lot of regular folk or mainstream Republicans are reacting to this.

  36. 36.

    JWR

    @HumboldtBlue: As a Lakers fan, I sure remember Steve Kerr, because every time he got the ball was cringeworthy for me, because I just knew he was gonna nail a 3.

  38. 38.

    HumboldtBlue

    @JWR:

    And the reason it’s so high is the far lower volume of shots. Kerr attempted 1,599 3s in his 15-year career and Steph has already attempted more than 6,000 in just 12.

  39. 39.

    patrick II

    @Martin: 

    Both Steph and Dame hit shots that were around 50 feet out, and several more than 40. I have never seen anything like it.

  40. 40.

    Tony Jay

    @MattF:

    Ah, yes, that’s an interesting take. I was too busy picking out the easter eggs and figuring out which different aspects of which story had been adapted into the series.

    Nothing about how her husband is split between a colourful, caring figure who has to hide his true nature from the black and white gaze of American conformity and a heartless, violent monster clad head to toe in white dedicated to stamping out rebellious femininity? That’s there too if you look hard enough

    ETA – or if you’re paid to look for it.

  41. 41.

    JWR

    @Tony Jay: Hey! I was thinking of you earlier today, or yesterday, because of the mentions here of Brexit, and wondered how that’s workin’ out for all y’alls? I look forward to your latest musings, but not till I get some sleep, mkay? ;)

  45. 45.

    rikyrah

    @Brachiator:

    I dunno. I remember, post November analysis in Texas ,where people thought that we should have done better  , one of the stories pointing to Hispanics talking about the stimulus check coming from Dolt45, cause he sent that letter. So, yes, the Democrats need to take ownership all the way.

  46. 46.

    Mary G

    @rikyrah: Biden ought to write a letter saying “you notice, my check is bigger than the Former Guy’s were.”

    Might be able to hear the screaming from Florida even without Twitter.

  47. 47.

    JWR

    @HumboldtBlue:
    Yeah, I don’t remember him taking a huge number of shots, but the play-by-play announcers would mention his high percentage scoring. and when he saw one, he took it. But those numbers for Steph, wow, he’s shot crazy. Kinda like Kobe in his final game, which, BTW, was some kind of awesomesauce. ;)

  48. 48.

    patrick II

    @HumboldtBlue: ​
     
    Kerr’s percentage was helped when the nba moved the three-point line closer (22 feet) in the 1994-95 season until the 1996-97 season. He had three years to shoot nearly two feet closer. The corners were 22 feet before and after because that is all there is room for. In 1997-8 they moved it back to 23’9″.

  49. 49.

    patrick II

    Steph and Chris Paul traded back-door lob pass dunks. First Paul lobbed it up from the top of the key and Curry dunked the pass with two hands — and then vice versa; Curry to Paul. If it wasn’t for the 50-foot jump shots, I would say those were the coolest plays of the night.

  50. 50.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Tony Jay: Tony, great to hear from you. I was starting to worry about you as you didn’t seem to have been around recently.

  52. 52.

    Tony Jay

    @JWR:

    @Jay:

    @Sloane Ranger:

    Hay, y’all. I’ve been around, just silently basking in the reflected glow of a country turning away from malicious, destructive cracker-nationalism. As Sloane can tell you, it is decidedly not going that way in the dank shires of Petty Anglia.

    I’ll vent eventually, for now I’ll just simmer.

  53. 53.

    Patricia Kayden

    For those who need the stimulus check and yet still voted for a republican to represent you – why? They don’t care about you. Their vote just proved they don’t care about you. #CovidReliefBill— Valerie Bertinelli (@Wolfiesmom) March 6, 2021

  54. 54.

    Gvg

    @MattF: Yes, because the black woman was an agent who said her brother was dead when Wanda didn’t want to remember anything bad. The townspeople didn’t know who Wanda was. She and Wanda ended up pretty friendly. I didn’t even think of that event as a black woman being singled out. It seemed like a logical reaction to the stage of grief Wanda was in no matter what ethnic group are.

    I loved the show, which it was a longer series.

  55. 55.

    lowtechcyclist

    @JWR: ​
     

    So much This. Mitch and the Muskovites appeared to be shell-shocked at the speed with which a cohesive, united, well-oiled Democratic party could operate.

    Well, it’s not like it’s something they’ve seen much of in the past, so I expect they were caught a bit off guard.

    Biden and Schumer have apparently figured out that there’s no point in wasting time and energy trying to get GQP votes: they’re welcome to jump on the train if they want, but the train isn’t going to wait for them. That speeds things up a lot, and gets rid of all those Lucy-and-the-football moments we’d seen too much of during the Obama years.

    That’s especially necessary since the Dems need the vote of literally every Dem Senator, which means Schumer et al. have to deal with every objection raised by the centrists in their own party. That obviously took some time, but the key thing was, not too much time. Schumer handled this quite well, and IIRC, a phone call to Manchin from Biden also helped.

    They did us proud, and may they continue to do so, because this is the first of quite a few necessary battles this year.

  59. 59.

    SFAW

    @Splitting Image:

    The Nib is actually a site hosting cartoons from a lot of different artists.

    Does it have anything from Ben Garrison? That alone would make it worth the price of admission, because he’s so witty.

  60. 60.

    Ken

    @JWR: Mitch and the Muskovites appeared to be shell-shocked

    So much so that they left the chamber without waiting for the motion to adjourn, allowing a vote for the Garland nomination to proceed.  Hee hee hee.

  62. 62.

    SFAW

    @Ken:

    That was a pretty shitty display of anti-bipartisanship by the Demon-rats and Schumer. Where is all their talk of “unity” now? I’m sure that, had they told the Republican Sinators what they were thinking, those Sinators would have voted for cloture on Garland, as a show of good faith and their willingness to work with Dems for the common good.

  63. 63.

    SFAW

    @JaySinWA: @John Revolta:

    I’ll give it a go:

    “There are a few thousand middle class millennials who are education- & social capital rich w/no kids or meaningful community roots;” == Educated, “hep” child-free,  and self-centered millennials

    “presumably due to knowing that they are absolutely the most disposable people in America, they are by far our most grasping & Boomerish demographic.” == “grasping” because they know no one gives two shits about them. I guess Boomers are also “grasping”

    “To be clear, it’s actually fine to be in this space. Pretty cool even, provided you’re able to accept that you’re a court eunuch operating on a shorter temporal scale but with less to lose than others.” == but that’s OK, because you’re eunuchs who are all going to die sooner than me/us, and you also have less to lose than the rest of us, who are just scraping by.

     

    At least, that’s how I read it. But even if I’m right, Krampus’s comment is not what one would call a profound philosophical treatise.

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