The United States plans to send roughly 4m doses of AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine that it is not using to Mexico and Canada in loan deals with the two countries, an administration official told Reuters on Thursday.
Mexico will receive 2.5m doses of the vaccine and Canada will receive 1.5m doses, the official said.
The “loan” means they’ll pay us back in doses later this year. AstraZeneca’s vaccine has not been approved by the FDA yet.
I’d like us to send more to Mexico, where AMLO’s rank stupidity has killed a hell of a lot of innocent people.
I got my first shot (Moderna) today after getting an alert yesterday about availability at Wegmans. We’re about to go from not enough vaccine to not enough arms, and that’s a good thing.
guachi
With Canada having 1/10 the population the US does it should be fairly easy for the US to ship/sell enough vaccines to Canada once there’s enough for Americans, which should be by early summer.
Just One More Canuck
We need more up here in Canada, so thanks
VeniceRiley
What’s the holdup with NovaVax?
piratedan
sounds like a no brainer for us to be a better neighbor and help out.
will be nice to be the good guy once again, or so I hope.
Auntie Anne
I was hoping we’d send those vaccines to another country that needs them.
Major Major Major Major
I assume this is one of those loans that we don’t expect to be paid back for?
dmsilev
Since it’s going to be weeks and probably well over a month before AZ gets even a preliminary FDA approval (they haven’t even submitted an application yet), it makes a lot of sense to send what we have to countries that have already signed off on deploying it.
trollhattan
“Here, you guys get the bloodclots.”
JK. I think the EU is badly dithering with pausing their vaccine programs, doubly troubling considering several member nations are having a third wave. OTOH I feel fortunate we’re moving forward with three vaccine options and appear to have more people fully inoculated than the rest of the world combined. (38M, India is #2 @ 6.8M)
ETA What’s the deal with Georgia? They have the lowest fully vaccinated rate in the States and a weekly test positivity rate of 7.4%. Is it the governor, something else, all of the above?
Brachiator
In related news, from CNN
I forget. We don’t want Susan Collins ever helping the Democrats, right?
Anyhoo, Becerra will no doubt have a key role in helping to get the vaccine to Canada and Mexico.
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major: Sounds plausible.
jeffreyw
We got our second jab yesterday. I suppose we should call it a jab jab since there are two of us. Pfizer, no side effects for me but Mrs J was queasy, didn’t eat supper, went to bed early, and has a sore arm today.
Kelly
Honestly never thought I’d have anything good to say about the anti-vaxers or the conspiracy theorists, but their reluctance could get us vaccinated a couple months sooner than I expected ;-)
laura
I saw the post headline and assumed that Quinerly’s pup authored it. Has he learned any english in the last year?
UncleEbeneezer
As someone who had to cancel a trip to the Yucatan peninsula in 2019 and again in 2020, I love to see this news. The faster we can get our neighbor countries vaccinated, the better. It’s the right thing to do both as a neighbor and as a country that shares a lot of tourism, trade etc.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
I am scheduled for vaccination next week! Hooray!
jeffreyw
@Brachiator:
I wish they wouldn’t term these 50-49 votes as narrow without mentioning that the Republicans are block voting solely to be obstructionist dicks and shouldn’t be taken as a reflection on the nominee’s suitability.
Doug R
@Just One More Canuck: Yup. Here in British Columbia our schedule has my wife and I due for our shots in July/August and our daughter in August/September.
All things being equal, I’m grateful for how our province has had moderate success in controlling Covid. Not as good as Vietnam or South Korea or New Zealand, but better than Alberta, Ontario, Quebec and the United States.
I sure would love to get vaccinated BEFORE summer though.
trollhattan
@Brachiator:
Good deal. He spoke a few times at my kid’s HS, as he graduated there. She thought he was “kinda boring.”
Now the lobbying Newsom scrum elevates to the high-volume setting re. his replacement.
Major Major Major Major
@trollhattan:
Unfortunately this is how some will see it, but from what I’ve read there’s no scientific or medical basis for those European countries’ decision to yank the vaccine. Even the EU regulator, which tends to have a hair trigger, says it’s safe. Letting the doses sit around unused is a much greater crime than whatever extremely rare complications may or may not occur.
So we have to consider whether those extra 27 blood clot events, which may or may not be related to the vaccine, are an acceptable cost for vaccinating five million people during an emergency.
Baud
I can’t believe Biden didn’t ask for anything for himself in exchange. Not even a trademark. Loser.
Captain C
@Brachiator: We’ll take her help, but she doesn’t get any credit or points for it. We should assume going forward that she’ll never be there when needed or do the right thing when it counts.
Doug R
@trollhattan: CBC is all over the data that shows that the rate of blood clotting is LESS than the general population and the two events may not be related.
Baud
@Brachiator:
That’s good news. I’ll take Collins’ vote if it gets him confirmed more quickly.
Old School
Has AstraZeneca been submitted for FDA approval yet?
I seem to recall there was a vaccine a couple of weeks ago that hadn’t been even sent for approval yet even though other countries were already using it.
dmsilev
Also worth noting is that even without AstraZeneca or Novavax, the pace of vaccinations in the US is continuing to speed up. Today’s data has the 7-day average crack 2.5 million doses/day for the first time. We’re getting close to the milestone of “1% of adults getting a dose every day”.
Mart
@Major Major Major Major: Mexico is strapped for cash paying for that border wall.
dmsilev
@Old School: No, not yet. I read somewhere that they expected to do so in April, so it likely would be early May (at least) before they would be rolled out here.
trollhattan
@Major Major Major Major:
Yup. Between the EU and UK, more than 17M have received the AstraZeneca vaccine. If there truly were an elevated risk of medical complications it should have been borne out months ago.
Brachiator
@jeffreyw:
The CNN story also notes the following:
The Republicans are asswipes. It is being duly noted.
trollhattan
@dmsilev:
It’s outstanding progress. This Joe fella and his crew seem to be on to something.
Kayla Rudbek
@guachi: that would be great if they could get Canada all vaccinated (goes over to look at the CrossingsCon schedule – still August 2021)
Anoniminous
This was predicted.
“We’re talking about treating very, very large populations, which means that you’re going to see the usual run of mortality and morbidity that you see across large samples. If you take 10 million people and just wave your hand back and forth over their upper arms, in the next two months you would expect to see about 4,000 heart attacks. About 4,000 strokes. Over 9,000 new diagnoses of cancer. And about 14,000 of that ten million will die, out of usual all-causes mortality. No one would notice. That’s how many people die and get sick anyway.”
Get Ready for False Side Effects
Old School
@dmsilev: Thanks. I see you addressed that up at #7. I should have read the comments more thoroughly.
gvg
The University health spokes doctor thought the US would have around 6 vaccines approved by this summer. I don’t understand the delay in applying for the EUA though.
Yutsano
Not to be THAT GUY…but it would behoove us to send our extra vaccines to poorer regions of the world. Having said that, restoring some goodwill with the neighbours is also valuable. I’m kinda torn tbh.
Mary G
@trollhattan: After TFG, “kinda boring” is music to my ears.
Anoniminous
Attached is his take on the current foo-foo.
What is Going on With the AstraZeneca/Oxford Vaccine?
Benw
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Huzzah for you! It’s a great feeling
Anyway
@Major Major Major Major:
Can we get paid in tacos? And hockey players?
Central Planning
@Major Major Major Major: 30 out of 5m vaccinated got blood clots. If you take a population of 5m people that got sick with COVID, I wonder if more or less than 30 of them got blood clots. I would bet everything I own that more than 30 people got blood clots.
Anyway
(Minor) props to BoJo and the UK on getting out ahead re vaccinations – commendable given how badly the EU has effed up.
Major Major Major Major
@Old School:
That would be the AZ, yeah. Raises interesting questions about regulatory structure!
Ken
This is good news for the US vaccination drive. I can think of few things more likely to make MAGAs demand to be vaccinated than the news that the vaccines are going to Mexico.
skerry
Maryland just announced vaccinations for 60+ begin next week. So I’m off on the hunt
Old School
How come if I “loan” OxyContin that I’m not using to my neighbors, all of a sudden I’m the bad guy?
Major Major Major Major
presented without comment
Kathleen
@Baud: Sounds like WH PressCorpses are suspicious per the Twitters. Also The mewling puking infants are also upset that Joe was mean to Putin. Jen Rubin was gobsmacked.
Standing in line at Duke Energy Center for shot number 2.
eclare
I got Moderna #1 today, yay! And an appt for #2! Now I need to make a lot of appts: dr, hair salon, mammogram, dentist…
MrSnrub
I’m seeing more and more friends and family and co-workers getting vaccinated, and I’m having full out FOMO.
I signed up with the county (currently a 6-12 week wait), and I’m surfing some of the availability sites, no luck yet. I may wind up driving 3 hours into the hinterlands of PA for a vaccine.
Starboard Tack
@Anyway:
I want mole. Tacos are easy but good mole is a PITA to make right.
dmsilev
@Kathleen: Why am I not surprised?
BC in Illinois
I don’t know if I’m missing something, but this seems to me to be a kinda big deal.
A visual indictment of the State of Missouri / COVID.
Go to https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view
Under “Map Data,” select “Cases.”
Then select “Reported Cases per 100,000 Population.”
I realize that this is, in many ways, more of the same.
I just don’t know why this isn’t more of a scandal.
[Note: BC in Illinois is a resident of St Louis County MO. I am scheduled for my second Pfizer shot next Friday.]
Yutsano
I also forgot to mention: I’m getting the first Moderna shot Saturday noon Pacific Daylight Time!
GregMulka
@BC in Illinois:
I just want to get my first shot. My CEO sent the company wide email saying since IT workers are eligible look at all these appointments in Springfield. Thanks asshole. Are you going to give me two days off without using up my vacation to take two trips to Springfield? I already know the answer so no need to respond.
Bill Arnold
@Major Major Major Major:
There’s also the disquieting fact that a scare, even a false one, may improve sales of other vaccines.
Russia in particular has demonstrated a willingness to denigrate other vaccines, and the Chinese have done so as well. (Chinese efforts are probably more about pathological Chinese nationalism, IMO)
No evidence AFAIK, but care should be taken about any anti-vaccine evidence, and a careful examination done of who (media, social media etc) is promoting the stories.
Old School
@BC in Illinois: The spikes all seem to be in the past week. Perhaps there is a glitch somewhere. If not, that *is* alarming.
JanieM
@Major Major Major Major:
Does this (from the OP):
have some secret or sarcastic meaning that I’m missing?
Major Major Major Major
@JanieM: I took it at face value, but we probably won’t need the doses by then, if AZ ever even files for an EUA.
otmar
My mother in law just turned 80, she’ll get her first jab on Sunday.
Progress.
BC in Illinois
@GregMulka:
Yeah.
I — 71, mostly retired — got an email last Friday at 9am from the SSM hospital system, giving me a whole lot of options. I got shot #1 within 2 1/2 hours, in StL.
Mrs. BC was at a Physical Therapy session, and couldn’t get online until a hour after I did. She wasn’t able to get an appointment for the vaccine until 8 days later.
Kathleen
@dmsilev: Every time I think I cannot be more outraged they manage to raise the bar of their evil and perfidy. They are very sick and toxic.
Mary G
This is a great way to repair some of the wounds TFG created in other countries, so good for Joe. He’s already helping:
Note he’s the ex-president, not the current TFG clone.
Kent
That is more on AZ than the FDA. AZ is the one that is controlling the pace of testing and approval.
lowtechcyclist
Me too. Unless FDA approval for the AZ vaccine is only weeks away, I can’t see what we gain by NOT sharing every dose of it we’ve got with Mexico, Africa, Brazil, wherever. Because we’re only weeks away from everyone who wants a shot being able to get one.
And what we would gain by sharing is a world with a lot less virus running rampant and producing mutations. And the more mutations, the more likelihood of one appearing that our current vaccines are useless against.
Kent
I think Missouri changed how it was reporting cases. Previously they were not reporting a-symptomatic positive test results as positive cases like the rest of the country. They changed their reporting protocols to start reporting a-symptomatic cases and the result was the back-loading of a whole bunch of unreported cases last week. So the spike was a data reporting anomaly. Look at the NYT reporting on this and notice the giant spike on their graphs
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/missouri-coronavirus-cases.html
Betty Cracker
This is a response to Lindsey Graham’s vow that he’d talk on the Senate floor until he “falls over” if necessary to defeat HR 1:
There’s a farm near us that occasionally puts up a sign saying it has fainting goats for sale. You can’t see them from the road. The kids and I have talked about posing as potential buyers so we can get a look at them.
Kent
I think Missouri changed how it was reporting cases. Previously they were not reporting a-symptomatic positive test results as positive cases like the rest of the country. They changed their reporting protocols to start reporting a-symptomatic cases and the result was the back-loading of a whole bunch of unreported cases last week. So the spike was a data reporting anomaly. Look at the NYT reporting on this and notice the giant spike on their graphs
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/missouri-coronavirus-cases.html
mrmoshpotato
@Brachiator:
Nominated.
Redshift
My county opened up vaccination to a few more occupations this week, and for the first time said the next priority group (which includes me) will probably start in mid-April.
Yay!
lowtechcyclist
@Brachiator:
It’s not that we don’t want her to; it’s just that we shouldn’t waste much time and energy trying to win her vote when it isn’t likely to make a difference anyway.
Which was the case here. I don’t know why Hirono had to be absent, but obviously Becerra would have been confirmed upon her return. So nice gesture, but that’s about all.
Matt McIrvin
Massachusetts has announced a definite date for opening up vaccination to all adults: April 19. I guess that gives me time to go get my second Shingrix shot then wait two weeks before COVID vaccination, as I’ve heard I need to do.
Ruckus
@Brachiator:
Used asswipes
Tom Levenson
@Matt McIrvin: I’m over sixty (Who thought that was a good idea–Ed.)* so I am eligible as of Monday. Yippee!
Now for the week+ of the Fauci-Ouchie Finger Dance, as I pound my keyboard in search of an appointment. (It is better than the clusterf**k at rollout, and I am signed up everywhere I can be, so we’ll see.)
*Beats the alternative–me.
JaySinWA
@Ken:
I can see MAGAs burning vials of vaccine to keep them from being exported and not used.
jl
Will look bad if the US has to hold onto vaccines for its population, if we have to sit around while we try to persuade the hesitant to get them.
I know it will be difficult for a certain minority of BJ commenters, but if you know anyone who is reluctant, but persuadable, be nice and explain the situation nicely to them before yelling and cursing.
Best way to deal with the variants and scariants is to get everyone around the world vaccinated asap, that includes the US. Would be nice to get to a stable steady state herd immunity. Since there is so much circulating disease, that will take a while, with maybe some mini surges, after we reach the herd immunity threshold.
Even if we don’t get herd immunity, and suppose the worst outcomes on the variants come true and they manage to swamp us, and reduce vaccine protection against hospitalization to 0.64, then the spread of outbreaks will be like mumps or whooping cough, which also don’t have stable herd immunity and we control without shutting down society.
But the US health care system and our general public sector capability is so crummy and decayed, not sure we still have the competence to create a new SOP infectious disease control program, as we do for measles, mumps, bacterial meningitis, whooping cough and a bunch of other infectious diseases. So better to reach stable steady state low prevalence herd immunity.
Starboard Tack
Grauniad reports:
Their family’s had a bad day, too.
Steeplejack
@jeffreyw:
Yes! In the past these were mostly pro forma procedural votes unless the nominee was widely thought to be a serial killer or something.
It especially burns me that Susan Collins is burnishing her “bipartisan” credentials by siding with the Democrats on these votes that are essentially meaningless—or would be if the rest of the Republicans weren’t such dicks.
Jinchi
My employer does allow us to charge for time to get vaccinated. Am I the outlier, or is this pretty common?
mrmoshpotato
Via HoarseWhisperer
Lather, cook breakfast, rinse?
laura
@trollhattan: re the recall – I’m ready to drag doug ose for the incompetent shite bag he is, that barrel scraping lay about. The mismanagement of Gibson Ranch and the Traffic Jam from hell are the lowest of low hanging fruit.
catclub
@trollhattan: where do you find the test positivity rates?
Matt McIrvin
@Tom Levenson: Monday is also the day for eligibility for all food service, retail and delivery workers, which is a huge deal as far as I’m concerned–I think they should have been further up the list, but at least it’s happening soon.
Steeplejack
@Major Major Major Major:
Okay, that’s funny!
Freemark
@Major Major Major Major: Especially considering this is iterally a days worth of vaccine for us that we may not ever even approve.
catclub
@jl:
,
That way lies madness.
Another Scott
I just got word that federal workers who work in DC can sign up to get vaccinated in DC even if they live in VA or MD. Similarly, federal workers in MD can now sign up to get vaccinated in MD.
Spread the word.
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@Starboard Tack:
Is mole sauce supposed to taste like what I imagine rust would taste like?
gwangung
I think what triggered the European regulators on the AZ vaccine is an unusual pattern of blood clotting that seems to be unique to AZ vaccine recipients. Possibly nothing, but I can see the reason for caution.
catclub
@Major Major Major Major:
Well, I’m going to comment! Those chips shown won’t stack like Pringles are supposed to. barbarians.
catclub
@mrmoshpotato:
 
of course not. Rust with a touch of peanut butter. [ I love mole]
Starboard Tack
@mrmoshpotato:
Only the kind made with rust.
jl
@catclub: I was thinking I could spring for a roll of tinfoil and make some hats. When I run into someone who won’t listen and starts babbling about the Bill Gates chip, I can give them one.
I for one, agree with the tweet I saw on AL’s daily covid report, the 5G chip promise was a scam. I’ve got my vax and the reception for the MS flacks trying to hawk their junk is garbage. Just background noise I pay no attention to anymore. More MS vaporware.
p.a.
All week on iPad Safari, ‘no appointment available’ multiple websites. 1st try android phone Chrome, appointments out the yin-yang, same state site. Pfizer #1 tomorrow. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mrmoshpotato
@catclub: Yeah. What if they start yelling and cursing at you?
Just One More Canuck
@Doug R: Yeah, I’m in Ontario (grew up in BC) and on pretty much the same timeline as you, but hopefully faster as more vaccines become available
There’s way too many dumbasses here, like my idiot neighbours who let their idiot sons have hot tub parties with their idiot friends. Did I mention that they’re idiots?
Where in BC are you?
mrmoshpotato
@catclub: Ugh. Gonna stick to asking for two salsa verde.
Mmmmmm al pastor burritos.
jl
@mrmoshpotato: ” Yeah. What if they start yelling and cursing at you? ”
Why we still need to wear face masks for a while.
planetjanet
@lowtechcyclist:
Senator Hirono had a family emergency and is back in Hawaii.
Another Scott
@jl: Tinfoil hats make it easier for the government to track your thoughts.
Working exactly as they planned… Muahahah.
Cheers,
Scott.
Starboard Tack
@Starboard Tack:
No rust in this recipe.
jl
@Another Scott: Hey, who the hell is blowing our cover? My middle earth dinosaur tail flopped out of my human suit the other day. I need a new one, but middle earth logistics is just as messed up as the covid vaccines. They put triceratops in charge, and are they dumb.
trollhattan
@catclub:
Johns Hopkins state overviews–the testing positivity percentage under the “Past Week” tab seems to present a reliable snapshot of what’s happening now.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/georgia
Georgia is 7.42%, Texas 8.41%, California 1.62%, Oregon 2.04%
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: I know everyone’s sense of time is fucked up, but we’re still over a week away from People Will Be Punched For April Fool’s Bullshit This Year Day, The Atlantic.
planetjanet
@Steeplejack:
It is not a meaningless vote. We have a rock star attorney and fighter in charge of Obamacare. We would not without her vote.
Mary G
Drag him, Dr. Fauci!
jonas
@Brachiator: A number of Republicans actually had the gall to question whether a former AG from a major state was qualified for the position because he didn’t have a “medical” background. After four years of approving rafts of brazenly unqualified hacks for positions up and down the Trump administration.
trollhattan
Hey look, a fresh Texas idiot in congress to harvest idiotic quotes from.
Gohmert must love having somebody to divert attention away.
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: Maybe the good (actual) doctor can go see Rand about his eyes repeatedly rolling out of his head.
Downpuppy
Wegmans is great for chicken & booze. I go there & pretend I’m Wade Boggs.
raven
@jeffreyw: Which? As bad as the plague shot?
jl
@Mary G: You don’t really need to be some fancy physician or PhD to know Paul is talking gibberish. You just have to be interested enough to have read up on the disease in the news, along with some common sense.
mrmoshpotato
@trollhattan: “There’s an old saying in Texas that I still love today. ‘Lynchings are awesome!'”
It’s this bastard’s 2nd term too!
raven
The crazy motherfucking lawyer from Americus wants to be able to see guns while he is out on bail for the insurrection. The judge says no. His ex and daughter live around the corner and this continued exposure sucks for them.
mrmoshpotato
@Downpuppy: I think M^4 got his first vaccination at Wegman’s. Booze, vaccination, and a roast chicken.
raven
@raven:
mrmoshpotato
@raven:
To go to a shooting range, or buy a subscription to Gun Humpers Monthly?
Roger Moore
@Anoniminous:
The other thing is that you have the classic problem of multiple hypothesis testing. There are lots of possible bad effects from taking a vaccine, and you want to look at all of them. But when you look at many different things, some of them will go up and some will go down just based on random chance. If you apply a statistical test naively, you’ll find that some of them have moved by enough that it looks statistically significant, again even if it’s just random chance. You need to adjust your statistical test to account for all the different effects you’re looking at. Alternatively, you need to run a first test to develop hypotheses and a second one to test those hypotheses. If the effect is really random, it’s much less likely to show up again in the second test.
jl
In other news, I noticed that Daniel Dale really had a strain to find three supposed mistakes in Biden’s interview.
@ddale8
” Biden got a few statistics wrong in his ABC interview, including the one he explicitly said he thought was wrong. Quick fact check: ”
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1372363242220228609
After reading the story, I saw only one relatively minor mistake. I’ll give Dale this one since he did such heroic and valuable work fact checking Trump. And Dale signals some of his gotchas are BS in the tweet itself. When Biden says explicitly he is throwing out some numbers for the purpose of illustration, he made no mistake if the numbers aren’t accurate. and rounding 780 to 800 is not a mistake.
I hope this is just Dale throwing a gesture out there to show his Biden administration coverage won’t be biased and he does a serious job from now on.
jeffreyw
@raven:
Please rephrase to better identify which which.
Major Major Major Major
@Kent: It’s my understanding (could be wrong) that they AZ hasn’t filed with the FDA because their completed trials like. Weren’t done on americans? https://khn.org/news/article/astrazeneca-johnson-and-johnson-covid-vaccines-fda-authorization-slow-despite-operation-warp-speed/
Seems non-ideal…
Roger Moore
@Yutsano:
There’s something to be said for getting our nearest neighbors and closest trading partners vaccinated first. They’re the places most likely to spread infections our way.
Ken
The American way of life, 21st century edition.
Ken
Though at the moment, it’s more likely to go in the other direction.
Another Scott
@trollhattan:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-astrazeneca/germany-france-among-nations-to-resume-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-after-regulators-back-shot-idUSKBN2BA25E
Cheers,
Scott.
trollhattan
@Another Scott:
Great news. Their citizens were not well served by the delay, and they’ll scramble to get back on track.
trollhattan
@Ken:
Sounds like a Friday happy hour special at Ruby Tuesday’s.
raven
@mrmoshpotato: It was another idiot from Georgia, an ex cop who is out on bail.
raven
@jeffreyw: Which vaccine?
trollhattan
@jeffreyw:
This witch!*
*Who weighs the same as a duck.
The Moar You Know
Where would that be? I’m in California and was told my age band (55 and up) for sure, would be open by middle of March, guaranteed.
I’m betting the earliest it opens is May 1. Maybe. As for the people who are actually spreading the plague, the youngsters (under 30) I’m betting not a one of them sees a dose before 2022. And until we get them dosed up, this isn’t anywhere near over.
Starboard Tack
@trollhattan: Viaduck?
The Moar You Know
@Major Major Major Major: Astra Zeneca’s trials were a fucked up mess from start to finish and they have to redo them from scratch. They did half with one dosing regimen and half with another. The results (less vaccine got more antibodies) made even less sense than the trial. So, put nicely, they never did a real trial.
Has nothing to do with the nationality of who they ran the test on.
And personally, it’s the only vaccine I wouldn’t take. Not because of the blood clot thing, which other people have quite properly dismantled in this thread, but because they have no idea how much to give you to be effective. “Winging it and a good guess” is not acceptable with medications.
Also, per that article, J&J is approved and going out. They need to ramp up production.
Served
Illinois is opening it up to all on 4/12, but Chicago is a separate entity when it comes to vaccines and is still lagging.
I am not very happy with the state health department’s allocation for the city compared to rural areas, and I am not very happy with the city, which has allowed 30% of our allotted vaccines to be given to people who do not live in the city. It’s still difficult to get an appointment in the city, while there are plenty of open appointments in downstate area. I would prefer they push the date to 4/19 and give Chicago additional doses for a week.
trollhattan
@The Moar You Know:
I’ll take that bet.
jeffreyw
@raven:
We got our second jab yesterday. I suppose we should call it a jab jab since there are two of us. Pfizer, no side effects for me but Mrs J was queasy, didn’t eat supper, went to bed early, and has a sore arm today.
raven
@jeffreyw: Sorry
Cermet
@Another Scott: Yes; I went that route in MD and got my first shot. You use the line for Police/Fire/EMS; yes, that seems strange but the software (at the vaccine center, the online just asks if you are eligable) can’t handle Gov employee.
jeffreyw
@raven:LOL! No sweat, GI.
Downpuppy
@mrmoshpotato: LP’s BF gives shots at Fenway twice a week
We have hopes
Major Major Major Major
@The Moar You Know: @trollhattan: me too, since I’d win instantly, unless my friends are lying.
Roger Moore
@trollhattan:
Me too. California has already gotten at least 1 shot into about 9.1 million of the 31.6 million people who are eligible to be vaccinated [ETA: meaning people over 16], and over 4 million are fully vaccinated. To get every
adulteligible person in California 2 doses will require about 50 million more doses. We’re currently vaccinating about 1 million people every 3 days, which would let us finish in about 5 months, i.e. before the end of August. In practice it’s likely to be faster than that, both because we’re still ramping up our vaccination rate and because the J&J vaccine requires only a single dose.Miss Bianca
@Tom Levenson:
So, you’ll appreciate this perspective, I’m sure, from one of my older sisters, who lives on Cape Cod:
;
KrackenJack
@Another Scott: I was wondering why my tinfoil hat had a parabolic tassel. It also says: Made in Cosmopolitania. Google Maps hasn’t been any help.
KrackenJack
@mrmoshpotato:
I got jab #1 at Safeway this week. had to settle for milk and an apple fritter with my Moderna.
lowtechcyclist
@Another Scott:
Got a link on that? My Googling isn’t turning up anything.
Since my wife is a Federal worker in MD and under age 60, this would be of considerable interest in my household.
Another Scott
@lowtechcyclist: Sorry for the delay – I hope you see this:
For federal government workers who live in Maryland:
https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/covid-vaccine/get-vaccine/mtb-stadium or by
calling 1-855-634-6829 for vaccination at the mass vaccination site.
For federal government workers who work in DC:
https://coronavirus.dc.gov/vaccinatedc or by calling 1-855-363-0333.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
vigilhorn
I thought Canada had already purchased way more vaccine than they needed for their population. What gives?
Another Scott
@vigilhorn: My impression is that this will speed-up delivery of vaccines to Canada and the US will get a comparable number back later (when, presumably, production will be higher).
Cheers,
Scott.