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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Sunday Morning Open Thread: A Good Week for / from A Good President

Sunday Morning Open Thread: A Good Week for / from A Good President

by Anne Laurie|  December 11, 20227:52 am| 169 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, President Biden, Proud to Be A Democrat

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Sunday Morning Open Thread 4

(Mike Luckovich via GoComics.com)

 

(I know there is a yearly cost of living adjustment that is based on inflation and it's calculated by bureaucrats, not a Presidential decision, just thought it was a cute way to put it)

— Natasha Cougoule (@tashcoug) December 8, 2022


Under President Biden’s leadership, there is a manufacturing boom across the country:
??TSMC is investing $40 billion in Phoenix
??Micron is investing $100 billion in Syracuse
??Intel is investing $20 billion in Columbus
??IBM is investing $20 billion in Poughkeepsie

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) December 8, 2022

Biden's biggest advantage over the rest of the Dem field (and what helped him against Trump) was precisely that he was the likable, relaxed guy who yes, had a touch of blarney, but that made him a little more charming.

— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) December 8, 2022

Biden announcing today that he is saving the pensions of more than 350,000 people across the country, who were facing cuts of up to 60% to benefits they paid into their whole lives. 40K in Michigan, 40K in Ohio, 28K in MO, 25K in IL, 22K in TX, 22K in WI…https://t.co/s71H6SBO8N

— Jesse Lee (@JesseLee46) December 8, 2022

Underfunded multi-employer pension funds (especially in the trucking industry) have been a problem for decades. Under this law insolvent or distressed funds will be able to pay out benefits until at least 2051. It’s a huge achievement. https://t.co/jk7XqRwa3r

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) December 8, 2022

Everyone remembers Joe Biden’s surprise support for gay marriage on “Meet the Press.” But his more prophetic comments came weeks earlier in Los Angeles. My retrospective as he prepares to sign marriage law. https://t.co/o7Qt5W7f4r

— Chris Megerian (@ChrisMegerian) December 10, 2022

White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain said he expects that President Joe Biden will announce he’s running for re-election after the Christmas and New Year’s holidays https://t.co/fRSPKjlI1v

— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) December 6, 2022

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— Beastmode Liberal Takes (@BeastmodeLibs) December 6, 2022

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  1. 1.

    BretH

    December 11, 2022 at 8:07 am

    Right President at the right time. Wishing  there was a strong enough replacement but barring that will happily vote for another 4 years of competent governing.

  2. 2.

    Spanky

    December 11, 2022 at 8:07 am

    The geek in me applauds the photoshopped “REPUBLICAN TEARS” in that last tweet. Excellent replication of refraction through those bottles.

  3. 3.

    Mousebumples

    December 11, 2022 at 8:08 am

    Happy Sunday, everyone!

    We made some holiday cookies and treats yesterday with one set of grandparents and are seeing my step-MIL today for holiday gift exchanges. She’ll be traveling out of state for the holidays, so while we’re ahead of Christmas by a few weeks, it should still be good to see her.

    Toddler Mouse is calling her “my new grandma” – which, no, but we see her in person a little less often, so I guess she feels like a new grandma? 😅

  4. 4.

    Mousebumples

    December 11, 2022 at 8:20 am

    Attention postcarders –

    Tony The Democrat (@DemocratWit) tweeted at 2:44 PM on Sat, Dec 10, 2022:
    Our 307th #PostcardsToVoters campaign overall and very first one for 2023 is for: Democrat Aaron Rouse for Virginia Senate in a Jan. 10 Special Election.

    Spiffy message items.  Short list.  Or is it the other way ’round?  =)

    Text JOIN to (484) 275-2229

    Write now!

    #TeamRouse https://t.co/sTFyDbyN6k
    (https://twitter.com/DemocratWit/status/1601679365460611072?t=bnIpNCwdhzQH5Z2k4ZUD_Q&s=03)

    Addresses were available a few minutes ago when I checked Abby the Address Bot. With (probably) a small district and list, they may not last long enough for us to get a postcard party planned.

    My plan is to write some tonight for the retired Green Bay Packer.

    To join #PostcardsToVoters email [email protected] or text JOIN to 484-275-2229. 😊

  5. 5.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 8:31 am

    @Mousebumples: Not only is Aaron Rouse a retired Packer, but in college he played for the Hokies. Virginia Tech has a strong alumni network all over Virginia. I’ll be interested to see if Rouse can utilize it in this election.

    He’s running for the seat state Senator Jen Kiggans left open when she challenged Representative Elaine Luria. I believe this will be the last Virginia election on the map Republicans drew in 2011.

    This fall’s General Assembly elections will be held on a map drawn by two special masters, under the auspices of the state’s supreme court. I think it is a neutral one, and the upcoming general election should give us a good idea of the direction Virginia’s electorate is headed.

  6. 6.

    stinger

    December 11, 2022 at 8:32 am

    @Spanky: Same here. I was just observing that the head was wrong, then noticed the words and *chef’s kiss* for the technique on those!

  7. 7.

    Aussie Sheila

    December 11, 2022 at 8:33 am

    God I hope that Biden’s announcement re re-election plans stops any attempt at a challenge. I am all for internal party democracy, but it would simple political malpractice to challenge him for 2024.

    Quite simply, he is the only reason that me and the people I know and have worked with for years here, breath a bit easier. God help us if some anti China republican crazy gets elected and we are plunged into another war. We would be right in the firing line, and this time, throwing some Australian troops into the morass, and hoping to weather domestic political fallout won’t be enough.

    This time we will be truly effed.

  8. 8.

    Nicole

    December 11, 2022 at 8:33 am

    I remember so vividly (and not just because it wasn’t that long ago) Trump trying to make Hunter Biden’s addictions a thing in his debate with Biden and Biden using it as a moment to connect on a personal level with the millions of Americans who have dealt with addiction in their lives and families.  It was one of the greatest moments I’ve ever seen in a Presidential debate.  I can’t stand Trump, but after so many years on The Apprentice, even an absolute fool like him is going to learn how to be good TV (practice makes progress!), but he could never, in a million years, manage what the considerably less-TV savvy Biden did in that debate.  And all because Biden is not afraid to be vulnerable in front of a crowd.   That’s a lot.

  9. 9.

    Mousebumples

    December 11, 2022 at 8:34 am

    @Geminid: thanks for the added insight! 😊

  10. 10.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 8:36 am

    Rupert Murdoch rarely has to answer for the alternative realities presented by his hugely profitable US cable network, Fox News.

    Its conspiratorial claims of a parade of cover ups from the 2012 Benghazi attack to the climate crisis and Covid-19 have been lapped up by Fox viewers and scorned by much of the rest of America, and then the world moved on. But on Tuesday, the 91-year-old billionaire media mogul will be obliged to answer difficult questions under oath about the inner workings of Fox.
    …………………………..
    Over the past few months, Dominion’s lawyers have been working their way up the tree of Fox News producers, executives and presenters with interrogations under oath about the network’s work culture and its weeks of conspiratorial, and at times outlandish, claims about Trump’s defeat. On Monday, lawyers deposed Murdoch’s eldest son, presumed successor and Fox Corp CEO, Lachlan.

    Now, Dominion has reached the top of the tree. Months of accumulated testimony are expected to put Murdoch, the chair of Fox Corp, in the difficult position of either having to deny he has control over what happens at his most influential US news operation or defend its campaign to promote the biggest lie in US electoral history.

    Murdoch is already grappling with the costly legacy of phone hacking by British newspapers the News of the World and the Sun. His UK company has paid more than £1bn ($1.2bn) over the past decade to keep the gruesome details from being heard in open court with no end in sight after a high court judge earlier this year refused to prevent the filing of new claims.

    When Murdoch was called to give evidence to a UK parliamentary hearing in 2011 about News of the World hacking the phones of a murdered schoolgirl as well as hundreds of politicians, celebrities and other public figures, he said that it was the most humble day of his life. He also claimed to have known nothing about the wrongdoing and said that he had been misled.

    “I feel that people I trusted … I’m not saying who … let me down and I think they behaved disgracefully,” he told parliament. “And it’s time for them to pay.”

    But he can make no such claim about Fox News, where its misrepresentations were on full display. So far, the only people to pay at the network are the ones who got it right.

    Here’s hoping Rupert has a very very bad Tuesday.

  11. 11.

    indycat32

    December 11, 2022 at 8:36 am

    Demon spawn update: Kitten number 3 has been captured!  It just took cat food that was so smelly it caused a gag reflex (in me, not the kitten).  With luck kitten number 4 will be captured soon.

  12. 12.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 11, 2022 at 8:39 am

    @Nicole: Trump was so offensive about Biden’s sons. Thinking about it even now makes my blood pressure rise.

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 8:45 am

    @Geminid: I have to wonder if the RWNJ Supremes meddling might screw things up with Moore v. Harper. You know they want to.

  14. 14.

    Nicole

    December 11, 2022 at 8:47 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I’ve babbled on here a few times about how I think the rise in teaching social-emotional learning as an actual curriculum in schools is one of the reasons the two youngest generations seem to be developing into a kinder crew than we all were, and one of the things they teach in the curriculum is about making a connection between you and someone else- someone will say something like, “I went to the park yesterday with my dog,” and someone else will say, “Oh!  I have a connection, I have a dog, too!” or, “I have a connection; I love going to the park” or whatever links something about them to what the first person just said (in the real world, of course, dropping saying the, “I have a connection” part).  That was what Biden did in that debate; he took something Trump said, but, rather than making a connection with Trump, he turned it and made a connection with the entire nation.  F*cking brilliant, and I’m sure there wasn’t a bit of connivance about it; he was just doing what he does best, which is connect with other people.  Incredibly high natural social intelligence.  Trump… not so much.

  15. 15.

    Aussie Sheila

    December 11, 2022 at 8:50 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I hope Dominion’s lawyers fillet him. He is slippery. If you can find it on yt, look for ‘British phone hacking scandal’ clips. He was nauseous in front of the Inquiry. I wonder why they didn’t subpoena Lachlan? He is the real force behind Fox now.
    I suppose they must have reason to know/think the old bastard still wields the power.

  16. 16.

    zhena gogolia

    December 11, 2022 at 8:51 am

    GREAT POST!

  17. 17.

    zhena gogolia

    December 11, 2022 at 8:54 am

    @Aussie Sheila:

    God I hope that Biden’s announcement re re-election plans stops any attempt at a challenge. I am all for internal party democracy, but it would simple political malpractice to challenge him for 2024.

    QFT.

  18. 18.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 11, 2022 at 8:54 am

    @Nicole: I hate the way movies and TV shows treat bullying and general mean girl behavior as normal land inevitable. It’s not.

  19. 19.

    p.a.

    December 11, 2022 at 9:01 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Tick-fucking-tock Rupert.  (We hope)

     

    I was Joe-gnostic, looking back at his crime bill and bankruptcy bill votes, but geez he’s been a great President, with a great support team (N. Smash a known quantity, but Chuck Schumer: who knew?)

  20. 20.

    Honus

    December 11, 2022 at 9:04 am

    @Geminid: that 2011 redistricting was a disaster.  Until Youngkin, republicans had not won a statewide election in Virginia since 2009.  Yet both house of the GA were republican and the congressional delegation was 9-2 Republican until 2019, because of that gerrymandering.

  21. 21.

    Soprano2

    December 11, 2022 at 9:08 am

    The housing market here has not cooled off at all. The realtor listed my mom’s house on Friday; yesterday I accepted an offer that was $5,000 above our asking price! We close on January 12th if everything goes well. The biggest possible issue is the roof. I’m not sure how old it is, there was no paperwork on it in among all the receipts my mom had, but the roofing guy thinks it’s 13+ years old, and there might be a leak in the kitchen that’s recent. If I have to replace it I work with a guy who does roofing on the side; he did our roof, I trust him to do it right, and he’s reasonable on price.

  22. 22.

    Suzanne

    December 11, 2022 at 9:10 am

    @Nicole: Agreed.

    And it was all the more striking, because Trump had one good debate moment in 2016 that I still remember. It was when there was still 10,000 candidates in the field, and the question was posed to them….something like, “Are you too angry to be president?”. Basically trying to get them all to offer platitudes about “what’s RIGHT with America!”, all that chipper smarmy bullshit that we’ve all heard a thousand times. Most of them did it. And Trump took the opposite tack, and said something like, “I am angry, I think I’m proud to carry the mantle of anger”. At that moment, I turned to Mr. Suzanne and I said, “He’s going to win this thing”. Because he was really, really good at reading the mood of the room and the “marketing” side of the job.

    I’m surprised (happily so) to see that he can’t figure out that the mood has shifted a bit. Considering how many of his voters have had their lives impacted by opioids, one might have realized that teasing a parent about their drug-using kid wouldn’t sit well with them.

  23. 23.

    Nicole

    December 11, 2022 at 9:11 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

     I hate the way movies and TV shows treat bullying and general mean girl behavior as normal land inevitable. It’s not.

    I agree. Even when the bullies get their comeuppance at the end, it’s not enough to make up for what came before.

  24. 24.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 9:16 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Moore v. Harper is a two edged sword. It could help Republicans hold on to a few stolen seats in states like Alabama, but it would clear the way for more gerrymandering in states controlled by Democrats. It would be a bad decision to uphold the state legislature in this matter, but in strictly political terms it could be a wash.

    I don’t know how that result would be applied to Virginia. In 2020, voters passed a constitutional amendment for a second time that created an “independent” Redistricting Commission. The commission deadlocked, though and the decision was punted to the state’s highest court. They appointed two special masters to draw the Congressional and General Assembly maps.

    Democrats controlled both General Assembly houses in 2020 and some wanted to ditch the commission format and give Republicans some of their own gerrymander medicine. When Democratic legislators joined their Republican counterparts to put the measure on the ballot the requisite second time some Democrats raised a howl.

    The amendment passed by an almost 2 to 1 margin. The disgruntled Democrats complained mightily for a while. They are quieter now, perhaps because Virginia’s new Democratic champion is Senator L. Louise Lucas, whose “Brick Wall” in in the Senate has stopped cold the legislative efforts of the Governor and his 52-48 lower house majority. Senator Lucas was instrumental in putting the constitutional amendment on the ballot for a second time.

  25. 25.

    Nicole

    December 11, 2022 at 9:17 am

    @Suzanne:

    Considering how many of his voters have had their lives impacted by opioids, one might have realized that teasing a parent about their drug-using kid wouldn’t sit well with them.

    So true. And I think it ties in to him viewing addiction as a failure of character.  He can’t comprehend viewing addiction with compassion because his own family’s experience with addiction has left him so broken and his way of dealing with it is to view addicts with contempt.  Which was also probably prevalent 30 years ago but you’re right; we’re in a different place now.

  26. 26.

    Jeffg166

    December 11, 2022 at 9:25 am

    What exactly are Joe’s flaws? After four years of TFG I don’t seem to be able to see any.

  27. 27.

    Suzanne

    December 11, 2022 at 9:25 am

    DAMN. Check this out.
    Lockerbie bombing suspect is now in U.S. custody, authorities say
    I still remember the day this happened. I was a kid and I lived with my grandparents. My grandfather worked for PanAm his whole career and had taken that London to New York flight hundreds of times. He was heartbroken that day.

  28. 28.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 9:26 am

    @Honus: Virginia also showed how demographic change and political shifts can erode the advantage given by gerrymandering. Republicans held the House of Delegates 65-35 going into the 2017 election and came out up only 51-49. A coin flip in a tied race prevented a 50-50 outcome.

    The next year Democrats flipped 3 Congressional seats and in 2019 they picked up 7 more House of Delegates seats for a 55-45 majority. This was all done on a Republican-drawn map.

  29. 29.

    Uncle Cosmo

    December 11, 2022 at 9:36 am

    @p.a.: ​…but Chuck Schumer: who knew?​

    Wul, I kinda suspected – when the first time I typed his name in a text my phone autocorrected it to Schemer…;^D

  30. 30.

    geg6

    December 11, 2022 at 9:37 am

    @Suzanne:

    There were several local victims on that flight.  I’m glad they got him.

  31. 31.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 9:37 am

    @Nicole: Yup.  Joe Biden is a good, caring, compassionate man.  And Dump, well…

  32. 32.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 9:40 am

    @Aussie Sheila: I wonder why they didn’t subpoena Lachlan?

    They deposed Lachlan a week or 2 ago.

    ETA: from the above blockquote:

    On Monday, lawyers deposed Murdoch’s eldest son, presumed successor and Fox Corp CEO, Lachlan.

  33. 33.

    Amir Khalid

    December 11, 2022 at 9:41 am

    @Jeffg166:

    Biden’s old and feeble, Republicans insist, even though he’s more vigorous now than TFG has ever been; he’s senile and out of it, even though he’s had a stronger record of accomplishments in office than most POTUSes, especially TFG; and worst of all, he’s a DEMONRAT!

  34. 34.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 9:41 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Here’s hoping Rupert has a very very bad Tuesday. 

    Yes please.

  35. 35.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 11, 2022 at 9:42 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    worst of all, he’s a DEMONRAT!

    They got you on that one

  36. 36.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 9:44 am

    @Soprano2: ​The housing market here has not cooled off at all.

    Around here, the rise in interest rates have cooled things down a bit, but no where near what I was expecting.

  37. 37.

    Aussie Sheila

    December 11, 2022 at 9:48 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I didn’t know that. Interesting. Looks like they are going whole hog on them

    Excellent news. Murdoch controls 75% of Australia’s print media. Thanks to a deal Paul Keating (Aus PM 1992-1996) made to show he knew all about media moguls. Talented PM. Terrible judgement when it came to other very powerful men.

  38. 38.

    MattF

    December 11, 2022 at 9:48 am

    WRT Hunter Biden, I expect that after the Rs take control of the House, we’ll discover that having a son with a penis is an impeachable offense.

    Also, with his attack on Fauci, Musk has gone too far. Sigh, Twitter was fun for a while.

  39. 39.

    brantl

    December 11, 2022 at 9:51 am

    @Mousebumples:  Every one of us could use a “new grandma”.

  40. 40.

    BruceFromOhio

    December 11, 2022 at 9:53 am

    @Spanky: Right? Saved the best for last, a good chuckle to start the day.

  41. 41.

    Honus

    December 11, 2022 at 9:59 am

    @Geminid: yes, it was impressive that the dems flipped both houses with the old maps.  The congressional delegation also flipped to 6-5 democrat during that time, all with the gerrymandered maps.  I credit the demographics as well as Trump motivating democrats to GOTV. That democrats could do this with those 2011 districts is why I contend that despite Youngkin’s narrow win last year, Virginia is essentially a blue state.

  42. 42.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 10:01 am

    @Geminid: Moore v. Harper is a two edged sword.

    Yes, but I am thinking along the lines of them finding a way to thread the gop favorable needle. This is a case that never should have reached the SC as the appeals court slapped it down in no uncertain terms and yet 4 of them wanted it to and they appear to think they can find a 5th. I know I am being a little paranoid here but they found a way to slap down Roe and their moral and judicial codes are very flexible.

  43. 43.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 10:03 am

    @Jeffg166: He’s senile, you just don’t want to see it with your rose colored Demoncrat eyes.

  44. 44.

    Ksmiami

    December 11, 2022 at 10:05 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: if they rule the wrong way, I think Civil War is inevitable.

  45. 45.

    NorthLeft

    December 11, 2022 at 10:09 am

    What a happy uplifting article. Thanks Anne. Great way to start the day.

  46. 46.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:10 am

    @Nicole: Our ruling class, mostly a bunch of badly raised sociopaths, absolutely hate social learning. It is against everything they were raised with

    ETA That behavior is what got them where they are.

  47. 47.

    NotMax

    December 11, 2022 at 10:11 am

    It’s 12 simians season once again!

    :)

  48. 48.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:15 am

    @Geminid: Wondering if you might have seen my invitation for you to write something up telling us the ways that Gabe Vasquez is great?  For our BJ version of Better Know a District – working title is Holy shit we have a lot of great Dems.  

    Gabe could come after our start with the Ohio House peeps we supported.  Kathleen is going to do two of them, and in the comments I invited someone else to do the third Ohio rep, but I didn’t get an answer.

  49. 49.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:16 am

    OT Husband and I went for a drive yesterday and we were failing to remember all of twelve days of Christmas. Our main impression is that guy gave that girl a fuck of a lot of birds. Why? I would have dumped him after the first dozen or so.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:17 am

    @indycat32: I applaud your efforts, especially your determination.

  51. 51.

    BruceFromOhio

    December 11, 2022 at 10:18 am

    MrsFromOhio and I have a running difference of opinion on sources of news. She is a regular consumer of NPR, and my parents are long-time FTFNYT subscribers. I despise both as normalizing monsters and enabling fascism, and we’ve agreed to disagree. So it was a welcome validation to read this essay from Paul Rosenberg, writing for Salon and posted at Rawstory, calling out the FTFNYT for doing what it does best.

    I heard a sharp echo of the 2016 election on Nov 27, when the New York Times tweeted out a story this way:

    New York and its suburbs are among the safest large communities in the U.S. But amid a torrent of doomsday-style ads and headlines about rising crime, suburban swing voters helped drive a Republican rout that played a decisive role in capturing the House.

    Once again, the Times was seeking to make sense of an unexpected election result — the GOP’s flipping of four suburban New York House districts — with zero apparent awareness of the crucial role its coverage had played.

    Sure, Fox News played a role in driving national hysteria on crime, as Philip Bump showed shortly before the election. But in these particular districts, with majorities of Joe Biden 2020 voters, Fox could not have done it alone. The Times was implicated as well, and civil rights attorney Scott Hechinger, who heads Zealous, a criminal justice reform initiative, called it out in a withering Twitter thread. He called it “mindblowing” to see the Times, “one of the chief purveyors of false/misleading ‘doomsday headlines’ about crime in NY & around country — now reporting on the electoral impact of their own deeply harmful journalism practices. And yet mentioning only other papers & ‘media.'”
    …
    “Why did we spend the past year or so reading daily stories about record high inflation but only occasional mention of record low unemployment?” Watts asked. “Both stories were true, but only one got consistent traction.” These two “Democrats in charge, situation out of control” narratives may have been custom-built in the Fox News ecosystem, but the Times eagerly gobbled them up and amplified them across the political spectrum, crowding out contrasting narratives in the process.

    Caught the little fuckers red-handed.

  52. 52.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 11, 2022 at 10:19 am

    I was approved for Post Beta. I’m on there as Dorothy Winsor.

  53. 53.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:19 am

    I made a batch of bread dressing after dinner last night. My husband laughed at me until I told him bread dressing at the end of the day is what gets me through Thanksgiving, and you gave it all away as leftovers to the kids.

    He was a bit shocked.

  54. 54.

    Citizen_X

    December 11, 2022 at 10:20 am

    Gawd, the replies to that Surowiecki Tweet! It’s a good example why I never got in Twitter. And I’m sure all of them would swear up and down that they’re “independents.” Sure.

    Last one sneered at “all you globalists.” That’s enough of the Nazis!

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:21 am

    @Jeffg166: He says “not a joke”, “thank you thank you thank you”, and other phrases too often.  That’s all I’ve got.

  56. 56.

    MomSense

    December 11, 2022 at 10:24 am

    @sab:

    Ha!  Speaking of Christmas songs, I saw a funny meme the other day that went something like

    Mary, exhausted, having just got Jesus to sleep, is approached by a boy who thinks to himself, what this woman needs is a drum solo.

  57. 57.

    Mai Naem mobile

    December 11, 2022 at 10:24 am

    @sab: duh, its a guy. He was thinking of his stomach. He wanted her to cook them for him. She’s lucky he thought it inappropriate to sing about pigs.

  58. 58.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:26 am

    @BruceFromOhio: My favorite part of the NYT walkout is that was the first day in ages that Connie Schultz didn’t link to a paywalled NYT article. I love her and her columns, but I think she is doing major harm in teaching our latest generation of reporters to revere the FNYT.

  59. 59.

    mali muso

    December 11, 2022 at 10:26 am

    On the Xmas home-made gifting front, my beta-test of Chocolate Babka was given out to a few out of town friends who were visiting yesterday.  If I say so myself, they looked pretty fabulous and were received to much acclaim.  A follow up text this morning with a photo of my friend’s kid with chocolate smeared happy face would indicate that the recipe is a keeper.

    Just signed up to write some postcards for Aaron Rouse. Still bitter that I got redistricted out of Jennifer Wexton’s territory.  blech.

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:26 am

    @sab: Well, if bread dressing is the same thing as stuffing, I heartily agree with your sentiments.  You could serve me only  stuffing (and maybe some fresh cranberry relish to brighten up the table) for Thanksgiving and I would be perfectly happy.

    edit: He gave it all away?  He’s lucky he still gets to sleep in the house!

  61. 61.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:27 am

    @MomSense: Yikes, that made me burst out laughing.

  62. 62.

    Mai Naem mobile

    December 11, 2022 at 10:28 am

    @BruceFromOhio: i wonder if Sulzberger’s rag’s news coverage is affected by GOP tax cuts.

  63. 63.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:28 am

    @WaterGirl: Stuffing goes inside the bird. Dressing is cooked outside.  Otherwise no difference.

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:29 am

    @MomSense:

    Mary, exhausted, having just got Jesus to sleep, is approached by a boy who thinks to himself, what this woman needs is a drum solo.

    Oh my god, that’s one of the best things I’ve ever seen.

  65. 65.

    MomSense

    December 11, 2022 at 10:30 am

    @WaterGirl:

    And I’ve always liked that song – but now I can’t listen to it the same way.

  66. 66.

    Eunicecycle

    December 11, 2022 at 10:31 am

    @sab: mt husband did the same thing one Thanksgiving. Didn’t make that mistake again!

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:32 am

    @sab: Well, unless he most sincerely apologized, I believe the handbook says you are free to divorce him as the result of his transgression.

  68. 68.

    Kristine

    December 11, 2022 at 10:32 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I’m on Post as Kristine Smith (@ksmithsf)

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:33 am

    @MomSense: That’s not one of my absolute favorite Christmas songs, so I could live with that tradeoff.

  70. 70.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:33 am

    @mali muso: I showerd that recipe to my husband and he was wowed. I think it will be added to our Christmas traditions list. Thank you so much.

  71. 71.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:35 am

    Wonderful post to wake up to, Anne Laurie.  I had totally missed the pensions move and the manufacturing update.

  72. 72.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 10:39 am

    @WaterGirl: Ah yes, email!

    I sometimes tell people that they might as well try emailing an emu.

    I am interested, but you should first try West of the Cascades (if I’ve got the nym right). They live in Silver City, New Mexico and Gabe Vasquez will be their Representative.

    There may be a volunteer living in Sharice Davids’ Kansas 3rd CD. If there’s not, I would be happy to work up an entry for her.

  73. 73.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:39 am

    @MattF: Having a son without a penis is also an impeachable offense (trans kid).

  74. 74.

    rikyrah

    December 11, 2022 at 10:40 am

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

  75. 75.

    Miss Bianca

    December 11, 2022 at 10:41 am

    @Nicole: I think it was you that I was replying to on a dying thread the other day – but that empathy for others that SEL teaches the youngest generations is precisely what’s driving reactionary old bats up the wall. The right-wing rag here in my town had an entire front-page article vomited up by one of their “correspondents” about how SEL was indoctrination either leading to or informed by critical race theory, oh noes!

    It got so bad at one point that our former superintendent actually had to issue a “No, we are not indoctrinating children” statement. I wonder if the batshittery spawned by this crap and all the COVID reaction is one reason he decided to go back to Texas. My county makes Texas look positively progressive, sometimes….

  76. 76.

    moonbat

    December 11, 2022 at 10:41 am

    @mali muso: Thanks for the recipe! I’m going to try this after the semester ends.

  77. 77.

    Kristine

    December 11, 2022 at 10:42 am

    Great news about the pensions.

    I get to spend the evening reading my draft estate plan in preparation for tomorrow’s online meeting with attorney. I will try to remain detached, but at some point I’m going to imagine vultures circling overhead and a hooded guy with a sickle reading over my shoulder and making comments.

    “WHY AREN’T YOU LEAVING ANYTHING TO A CAT SHELTER?”

    “I have animal welfare bequests.”

    “I DON’T SEE THE WORD ‘CAT’ ANYWHERE. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER.” ::sounds of whetstone scraping metal::

  78. 78.

    Miss Bianca

    December 11, 2022 at 10:43 am

    @zhena gogolia: I honestly don’t think we have to worry about a Democratic challenger to Biden. We have plenty of other actual threats from bad actors on the other side to worry about.

    OK, I could sort of imagine Sinema being unhinged enough to try it, but hey…she’s not a Democrat anymore!

  79. 79.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 10:43 am

    @sab:

    OT Husband and I went for a drive yesterday and we were failing to remember all of twelve days of Christmas. Our main impression is that guy gave that girl a fuck of a lot of birds. Why? I would have dumped him after the first dozen or so. 

    Everyone knows she had a basketball jones and wanted season tickets to her favorite team.

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 10:45 am

    @Geminid: oops.  I went back and looked, and I had asked you if you could put something together about Ruben Galego.

  81. 81.

    Eyeroller

    December 11, 2022 at 10:46 am

    @sab: Birds are edible.

  82. 82.

    Spanky

    December 11, 2022 at 10:46 am

    @sab: Twenty three birds, but 50 (!) people all bouncing around.

    And 5 gold rings.

  83. 83.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 10:47 am

    @MomSense:

    Mary, exhausted, having just got Jesus to sleep, is approached by a boy who thinks to himself, what this woman needs is a drum solo. 

    LOL!

    Bring us figgy pudding!

    No!  Get off of my porch before I call the police!

  84. 84.

    Miss Bianca

    December 11, 2022 at 10:51 am

    @MomSense: And I’ve always *hated* that song, and now I know why! LOL

  85. 85.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 10:51 am

    @sab:

    Stuffing goes inside the bird. Dressing is cooked outside. Otherwise no difference. 

    I’ve been using Stove Top the wrong way my entire life!

  86. 86.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 11, 2022 at 10:52 am

    @MomSense: LOL.

    Some company once sent us a drum with the marketing slogan, “Make some noise.” Our son was a toddler at the time. Fortunately, he was napping when the drum arrived. By the time he woke up, we had disposed of it.

    Seriously. Who does that?

  87. 87.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 10:52 am

    @WaterGirl: Aha. Gallego is a very interesting politician. But would he not be outside the scope of this particular series?

    Someone we would be very fortunate to have contribute to the series would be “Kay.” She is a very astute observer and now lives in Marcy Kaptur’s district.

  88. 88.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:53 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Wholeheartedly agree.

  89. 89.

    Miss Bianca

    December 11, 2022 at 10:53 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Who does that? Weird aunties and uncles, and grandparents seeking revenge *sinister laughter*.

  90. 90.

    Rileys Enabler

    December 11, 2022 at 10:54 am

    @Kristine: I’m on Post @rileysenabler, and Mastodon as the same.

    My birdsite feed has become riddled with “promoted” posts by terrible people, and Elmo’s post today just ended my run there.

    change is good, right?

  91. 91.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 10:58 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Calm down. It’s just labels.

  92. 92.

    Rileys Enabler

    December 11, 2022 at 10:58 am

    @MattF: agree. Today was the end of it for me. I’ve moved to Post and Mastodon, and will see what the future holds.

    I’ll miss the local breaking news/info, though. The birdsite kept us apprised of gas, food, and power after several hurricanes.

  93. 93.

    Amir Khalid

    December 11, 2022 at 11:02 am

    @Rileys Enabler:

    I’ve had the Twitter app on three different phones now, and never once been tempted to try it.

  94. 94.

    PaulB

    December 11, 2022 at 11:08 am

    Speaking of the 12 Days of Christmas, I’ve always loved this song about the aftermath: “The 12 Days After Christmas.” One of the more charming versions:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MgmT5pH5bc

  95. 95.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:10 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Do you know how to get a singer-song writer off your porch?
    Pay for the pizza.

    (old joke from my musician brother)

  96. 96.

    Shalimar

    December 11, 2022 at 11:10 am

    @Amir Khalid: The old and feeble thing is funny.  Biden is 25 years older than I am, and I couldn’t manage his bike rides in my current condition.  Physical fitness becomes harder as you get older, but most of it is putting in the effort.  Biden clearly does.

  97. 97.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 11:10 am

    @sab: So you’re saying you believe in No Labels? 😁

  98. 98.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:11 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: ​Seriously. Who does that?

    Tee hee hee… he says with an evil grin.

  99. 99.

    sab

    December 11, 2022 at 11:12 am

    @mrmoshpotato: In cooking yes, in politics absolutely not.

  100. 100.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:13 am

    @Miss Bianca: I would say “Great minds” and all that, but in this case it might be an insult to you.

  101. 101.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 11:13 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Haha.  I’m reminded of other versions of that joke.  (None of which I can correctly remember right now.)

  102. 102.

    Bupalos

    December 11, 2022 at 11:14 am

    @Spanky: disagree. I mean, those bottles look to be part of an original photo, so they are simply “real” not manipulated. However their source original photo clearly has a different color temperature than the warm yellow of the Oval. Needed to adjust their hue. Bigly.

    Also IMO the sentiment is garbage. That’s not the business Biden or the D’s are in. Focusing on the misery of your opposition needs to remain a wingnut thing.

  103. 103.

    Bupalos

    December 11, 2022 at 11:16 am

    @Shalimar: most of it is getting lucky.

  104. 104.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:18 am

    @mrmoshpotato: It’s a one size fits all insult joke: How do you get a GOP off your porch? How do you get an NYT reporter off your porch? Ad nauseum.

  105. 105.

    Ella in New Mexico

    December 11, 2022 at 11:21 am

    @MattF:

    Also, with his attack on Fauci, Musk has gone too far. Sigh, Twitter was fun for a while.

    Yeah, I’m trying to wrap my head around what ever benefit that Tweet was today on Fauci. It was like a magnet drawing all the anti-vaxers and COVID deniers to the cesspool of comments underneath…

  106. 106.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:24 am

    @Bupalos: ​And never being a carpenter.

  107. 107.

    Another Scott

    December 11, 2022 at 11:25 am

    Orion will splash down around 12:39 PM EST today. NASA has a live feed from the craft right now.

    (via APOD)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  108. 108.

    Miss Bianca

    December 11, 2022 at 11:27 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: An insult? Never in life, my dear sir!

  109. 109.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 11:27 am

    @Bupalos: I’m not a big fan of this whole “enemy’s tears” thing either. But I think Joe Biden and most other elected Democrats are too shrewd to use it themselves. There are better ways to throw shade on the opposition and they know these ways and are good at them.

  110. 110.

    Another Scott

    December 11, 2022 at 11:31 am

    @Another Scott: Hmm.  The frame seems to be static.

    Live NASA talking head coverage.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  111. 111.

    karen marie

    December 11, 2022 at 11:32 am

    I do not understand why it’s not illegal to underfund pension funds.

  112. 112.

    MattF

    December 11, 2022 at 11:33 am

    @Another Scott: Works for me.

  113. 113.

    kindness

    December 11, 2022 at 11:34 am

    I thought the danger of Moore vs Harper wasn’t so much increased gerrrymandering it would allow so much as the Independent State Legislatures up and over-riding the citizens votes and giving the electoral count to their preferred nazi.  Honestly we need to make the presidency a direct citizen vote and deep 6 the Electoral College.

  114. 114.

    Another Scott

    December 11, 2022 at 11:34 am

    Speaking of FIFA and Qatar…

    Prominent Greek MEP and one of the vice presidents of the European Parliament Eva Kaili is charged with corruption and remanded in custody after Belgian investigators find "bags of cash" in her home.https://t.co/q63B8gw7Ab

    — AFP News Agency (@AFP) December 11, 2022

    Follow the money.

    (via nycsouthpaw)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  115. 115.

    Another Scott

    December 11, 2022 at 11:36 am

    @MattF: Here it says it’s live, but the Earth isn’t moving.

    Dunno.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  116. 116.

    oldgold

    December 11, 2022 at 11:39 am

    MTG giving helpful hints for Christmas stocking stuffers:

    Marjorie Taylor Greene, at the New York Young Republicans Club Gala: “By the way, you can pick up a butt plug or a dildo at Target and CVS nowadays.

  117. 117.

    MagdaInBlack

    December 11, 2022 at 11:40 am

    @oldgold: WTF

    (eta: she is so flippin” weird)

  118. 118.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:42 am

    @karen marie: ​It is (I think it’s a civil thing, not criminal*) but a pension can become underfunded in many different ways. After the crash of ’08, the carpenter’s union pension got into the red zone due to losses in investments. The relevant federal authority (I forget their acronym) gave the union time to come up with a plan that would put it back in the black within a certain period of time. Those of us lucky enough to still be working ended up contributing an extra ($1/ hour)** until it returned to solvency. I was among the lucky ones and I never heard anybody complain about it.
    * I know a number of corporations have raided/underfunded their employee’s pension funds, causing them to go into insolvency, but AFAIK nobody ever went to prison for it.​

    **I know it doesn’t sound like much but I personally contributed well north of $2,400 and glad I was to be able to..

  119. 119.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 11, 2022 at 11:45 am

    Aaron Rupar. @atrupar

    Ro Khanna says on Fox News that he’s open to congressional hearings on the Hunter Biden/Twitter stuff

    Khanna replies that this is a mischaracterization of his segment, so I hit play. He says was standing up for “Our Constitution and our First Amendment”, that it was “censorship” for a private company to not promote an article from the (I have been told in all this noise and screeching) the fifth largest newspaper in the country. I can’t get past the way they’re talking about Twitter as if were a Cabinet department, if not a branch of government.

  120. 120.

    Another Scott

    December 11, 2022 at 11:45 am

    @Another Scott:

    The realtime tracking automation is interesting. It takes a while to load so be patient.

    6413 miles to go, 15,216 MPH…

    It’s over Antarctica now.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  121. 121.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 11, 2022 at 11:46 am

    @oldgold: boy, that’s pulling back the curtain on Marge’s brain.

  122. 122.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:48 am

    @kindness: ​​2 good pieces about it, from the Brennan Center and the CAP.

  123. 123.

    MomSense

    December 11, 2022 at 11:50 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Well my then toddler was once gifted a slide trombone and a fire truck with action sound effects!  So I decided to send a lovely craft kit with glitter as a thank you!

  124. 124.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 11:52 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Stove Top is an abomination! ( compared to my mom’s dressing recipe)

  125. 125.

    MagdaInBlack

    December 11, 2022 at 11:52 am

    @MomSense: I love your evil brain 😊

  126. 126.

    Another Scott

    December 11, 2022 at 11:52 am

    @Another Scott: Er, animation.  :-/

    Neato, it’s turning around right this minute.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  127. 127.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 11:53 am

    @Geminid:

    But would he not be outside the scope of this particular series?

    With a title of Holy shit we have a lot of great Dems.  I think not!  :-)

    Yes, I was originally thinking elected at the national level, but I think it also fits for the next Gabe Vasquez, etc.

  128. 128.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 11:54 am

    @Geminid: Upcoming Democratic House Leader Hakeem Jeffries can throw shade well. A tweet from today:

    Dems are working hard to move America forward.

    The extremists want to turn back the clock.

    Not happening.

    And one from yesterday:

    Violent insurrectionists and extreme MAGA republicans are melting down over repeated election losses.

    So they accuse Democrats of undermining democracy.

    Get lost.

    I love the common structure here. They remind me of Haiku poems. I guess I would call this form “Hakeemku.”

  129. 129.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 11, 2022 at 11:54 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ​Anything or anyone who doesn’t scream from the rooftops the latest GOP fantasy message is engaged in censorship and they are evil.

  130. 130.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 11:56 am

    @Geminid: Yes, you are right about that!

    SuzieC was talking about Marcy in a post, so I invited her to do it.  Maybe there are others in OH that Kay could contribute to?

    Also, I am envisioning conversation in the threads, and others who are familiar with with the person joining in, and others asking questions and suggesting other names for future posts.

  131. 131.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 11, 2022 at 11:58 am

    @MomSense: Glitter is the gift that lasts forever.

  132. 132.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 11:59 am

    @kindness: If we were to go the direct election route we would certainly need a runoff, like in France.

  133. 133.

    kindness

    December 11, 2022 at 12:00 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Good stuff there.  Thanks.

    After what we have seen  post 2020, There’s no question some states would just give their Electoral College votes to their own party, regardless of who won the actual vote in that state.  I don’t think Moore vs Harper is going to win but am still distressed there seem to be 4 sitting Supreme Court Justices that think it’s just fine.  We really need to add seats to that court.

  134. 134.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 12:00 pm

    @PaulB: That was so good!

  135. 135.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 12:03 pm

    @karen marie: I know!  How is this not the businesses pocketing the fund contribution from employees???

  136. 136.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    boy, that’s pulling back the curtain on Marge’s brain. 

    Pay no attention to the void behind the curtain.

  137. 137.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 12:16 pm

    @oldgold: That’s not for real, right?  That’s parody?

  138. 138.

    chrome agnomen

    December 11, 2022 at 12:19 pm

    @oldgold: that’s MTG’s idea of both sides!

    (I’ll see myself out)

  139. 139.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 11, 2022 at 12:26 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: ​
     

    I hate the way movies and TV shows treat bullying and general mean girl behavior as normal land inevitable. It’s not.

    I agree, but it was very much the norm a couple generations ago, when the people who decide what we see on the big and small screens grew up. It’s still what’s in their heads. I know it’s hard for me to register that it’s not like that anymore, and I have a son in high school.

  140. 140.

    OverTimeWillie

    December 11, 2022 at 12:28 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I think most of the Central States obligations are from companies that went belly-up after trucking dereg.

    Though it was probably never fiscally viable, being created and run as a mob slush fund. Many of the players went to jail, or met untimely ends.

    Good on Joe for cleaning out that stable.

  141. 141.

    oldgold

    December 11, 2022 at 12:32 pm

    @WaterGirl:  No. It is real, but somewhat decontextualized. 

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217454309

  142. 142.

    Miss Bianca

    December 11, 2022 at 12:37 pm

    @MomSense: Oh, my – I sense a “Christmas Wars” movie script in your future!

  143. 143.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 12:42 pm

    @oldgold: Wow.  She is a real class act.

  144. 144.

    Brit in Chicago

    December 11, 2022 at 12:49 pm

    @Miss Bianca: If Sinema were to challenge Biden for the nomination that would be very good because it would mean that she wasn’t running as a spoiler-independent for the Arizona Senate seat. Of course she’d lose in whatever comes after landslide in the scale of losses.

  145. 145.

    oldgold

    December 11, 2022 at 12:52 pm

    @WaterGirl: Without question, as Yoda would say, “an act she is.“

    There a lot of bad jokes I could make about this, but for once, I am going to pass as this subject matter is out of my depth.

  146. 146.

    Steeplejack

    December 11, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    Has anyone seen any information about how successful the NYT boycott was on Thursday? Clicks, traffic volume, etc

  147. 147.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 1:12 pm

  148. 148.

    Ken

    December 11, 2022 at 1:12 pm

    @oldgold: “To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”

  149. 149.

    Citizen Alan

    December 11, 2022 at 1:13 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: As a born and bred Southerner, just the sight of a Stovetop Stuffing makes me nauseous. Good southern dressing is a carefully balanced blend of homemade biscuits and homemade cornbread, along with all the other necessary ingredients. Stovetop, IMO, tastes like stale croutons heavily dusted with sage and parsley. Blech.

  150. 150.

    Citizen Alan

    December 11, 2022 at 1:17 pm

    @PaulB: Pedantic nit: The 12 Days of Christmas already are after Christmas. It’s supposed to the gap between Christmas Day and Epiphany (Jan 6).

  151. 151.

    TriassicSands

    December 11, 2022 at 1:33 pm

    @Suzanne:

    I don’t think it was so much a case of Trump correctly reading the room as it was that the mood fit who Trump is. It should be pretty obvious by now that Trump is Trump. He’s not adaptable. As attitudes toward him change, he remains the same bitter, nasty, vengeful whiner he’s always been.

    Since power is what the GOP is all about, if the party increasingly sees Trump as a burden, they may gradually shift their attention to other candidates. One great hope I have for 2024 is that if the tide goes against Trump, his need to get even with anyone he perceives as insufficiently worshipful will inspire him to run as a third party candidate, ensuring a Democratic victory.

  152. 152.

    GibberJack

    December 11, 2022 at 1:39 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Murdoch’s has been using kompromat for a long time.

    Consider the compromised not as news sources but as assets, because Murdoch actually runs an intelligence organization that specializes in psychological warfare operations, especially disinformation.

  153. 153.

    Jackie

    December 11, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    @MomSense: My at that time childless sister and husband gave my 3 yr old son a police car with screaming sirens and flashing lights. Ten years later I was happy to gift their 3 yr old with a screeching flashing laser gun…😂

  154. 154.

    Captain C

    December 11, 2022 at 1:54 pm

    @oldgold: Of course she would know this.  Or she’s very creative with what she called a butt plug or dildo.

  155. 155.

    TriassicSands

    December 11, 2022 at 2:02 pm

    @kindness: Honestly we need to make the presidency a direct citizen vote and deep 6 the Electoral College.

    Yep, but there is almost nothing that is less likely to happen.

    Okay, Trump acting presidential is less likely. In fact, pick anything positive and try to apply it to the 2022 Republican Party and it will almost certainly be less likely than our ditching the Electoral College.

    About the only thing I can think of that would make getting rid of the EC possible would be for Democratic presidential candidates to start losing the popular vote and being elected by the EC. But how likely is that?

    It is important to never stop criticizing the Electoral College; to keep its unfairness and perversity always at the forefront of things that need to change. The short route to making the EC irrelevant is by universal or near universal adoption of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. As of June 2022, fifteen states and D.C. had joined.

    Already in:

    Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois, Hawaii, Washington, Massachusetts, D.C., Vermont, California, Rhode Island, New York, Connecticutt, Colorado, Delaware, New Mexico, and Oregon.

    If you notice something about that list, it will further emphasize how difficult this task is. How many of those states (195 Electoral votes) are red/Republican or even swing states? However, there are still states that could join and help create more momentum. Anyone who lives in a non-NPVIC state, should do whatever they can to get that state to join. It could be done where ballot initiatives are permissible, but the governor will have to sign on

    Off the top of my head, currently Kansas, Kentucky, Wisconsin, and North Carolina have Democratic governors. They would add something like another 40 EC votes. Inching closer to a majority.

  156. 156.

    GibberJack

    December 11, 2022 at 2:09 pm

    @sab: I always wondered if she got the pear tree with the partridge as a combo, or just the bird.

    Seems like a lot of work to dig up so many pear trees though. Maybe the ground doesn’t freeze there?

  157. 157.

    The Lodger

    December 11, 2022 at 2:13 pm

    @Kristine: somewhere in my Sandman collection there is an image of Death as a cat. It’s the perfect illustration for your private terror.

  158. 158.

    dnfree

    December 11, 2022 at 2:13 pm

    @Spanky: I interpret the twelve days as repeating the entire list every day and adding something new.  Hence, by the end of the 12th day there are 12 partridges in pear trees, 22 turtle doves, 30 French hens, and so on.  She gets 40 gold rings, but what is she going to do with all the milkmaids and cows?

  159. 159.

    TriassicSands

    December 11, 2022 at 2:14 pm

    @Ken: “To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”

    Does that mean, by extension, that to a person who is an asshole, everything looks like a butt plug?

  160. 160.

    GibberJack

    December 11, 2022 at 2:17 pm

    @Captain C: Where else but on this blog can one read in the same thread about stuffing vs bread dressing, Little Drummer Boy, and buttplugs and dildoes.

  161. 161.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 2:18 pm

    @Steeplejack: I was wondering about that, too, earlier when I did my Wordle for today.

  162. 162.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 2:19 pm

    @Citizen Alan: I thought it was the 12 days before.

  163. 163.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2022 at 2:21 pm

    @GibberJack: And you thought full-service blog was just a joke! :-)

  164. 164.

    GibberJack

    December 11, 2022 at 2:21 pm

    @dnfree: Maybe the lords a leaping are like that era’s pool boys?

    Still a lot of them. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  165. 165.

    dnfree

    December 11, 2022 at 2:23 pm

    @WaterGirl: The 12 days of Christmas start after Christmas and end on Epiphany, January 6. Epiphany is traditionally when the Wise Men arrive, but of course the whole assignment of dates is arbitrary.

  166. 166.

    Mai Naem mobile

    December 11, 2022 at 3:33 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Khanna’s a Yale Law School grad no less. The elite law schools aren’t sending us their best!  I didn’t realize Khanna had turned into such a putz. And on Maria Bartiromo’s show no less.

  167. 167.

    BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

    December 11, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: What an asshole!!

  168. 168.

    J R in WV

    December 11, 2022 at 5:05 pm

    @Geminid:

    They live in Silver City, New Mexico…

    OMG, that’s such beautiful countryside around Silver City. And the  Gila National Forest has such a great tiny stone Cliff Dwelling village. I understand there are hot springs galore but haven’t gotten wet in them. yet…

  169. 169.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2022 at 5:19 pm

    @J R in WV: I hope to make it back to New Mexico someday before too long. When I do, Silver City will be on my list.

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