More in sorrow than anger…
Bill Barr on CBS: "You have to remember — a conspiracy crime is completed at the time it's agreed to and the first steps are taken. That's when the crime is complete." pic.twitter.com/IVQ5T3x2Yh
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 6, 2023
And galavanted around the globe with his supposedly independent special counsel, finding nothing, and stomping all over his dick meeting with criminals and spies who’d, in prior years, taken runs at corrupting the Trump campaign and Trump allies. https://t.co/KBL7fNTo3g
— Clean Observer (@Hammbear2024) August 6, 2023
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said he is willing to testify against former President Trump at his Jan. 6 trial. https://t.co/jQmFbzHORr
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) August 6, 2023
Look at that stern expression! You know it’s over when the GOP’s lifetime consigliere switches from ‘Perhaps some unfortunate assumptions may have been made’ to ‘Throw that miscreant under the jail… ‘
… Barr, who was appointed by Trump, responded “of course” when asked on CBS’s “Face the Nation” if he would be willing to appear as a witness in Trump’s trial over federal charges related to alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. He declined to answer whether he was interviewed by the special counsel in connection to the federal investigation.
Barr has been a staunch critic of the former president since he resigned from his post shortly after the 2020 election. He noted that the case brought by special counsel Jack Smith was a “challenging” one, but that he does not think it “runs afoul of the First Amendment.”
When asked about his interactions with Trump and how he told the former president there was no evidence of election fraud, Barr said that his investigations into the fraud “satisfied” the conclusions…
First rule of GOP Legal Fight Club: When your client is obviously sunk, cut your own losses:
Bill Barr: 'Would not come out very well' for Trump on the stand https://t.co/eO1tpD6aLE
— POLITICO (@politico) August 3, 2023
Once Trump lost power Bill Barr saw the light. I’m glad he has. But recall that Judge Walton (rightly) concluded that Barr put forward such “misleading” and “distorted” accounts of the Mueller report that it called into question his credibility. That matters, too. @AWeissmann_ https://t.co/TDql7vnNj0
— Peter Wehner (@Peter_Wehner) August 5, 2023
Speaking of miscreants, Kaitlan Collins is making a strong bid to replace Maggie Haberman in this new ‘Downfall’ era of TFG’s career…
Bill Barr on CNN: “As the indictment says, they’re not attacking his First Amendment right. He can say whatever he wants. He can even lie. He can tell people that the election was stolen when he knew better. But that does not protect you from entering into a conspiracy.” pic.twitter.com/YqK1g4alaK
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 3, 2023
Collins: You think jack Smith has more?
Barr: Oh, yes. I would believe he has a lot more, pic.twitter.com/zyDoPNgICG
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 3, 2023
Bill Barr makes interesting point on CNN: if Trump wants to argue he was simply following the advice of counsel, he would have to take the stand. (Which he almost certainly would not do.)
— Helen Kennedy (@HelenKennedy) August 3, 2023
This is my favorite clip in a long time. pic.twitter.com/FQVA76cHbW
— Helen Kennedy (@HelenKennedy) August 3, 2023
Barr killed 1980s Iran-Contra investigation. Bush was Vice President under Reagan. Bush may/may not be in on Iran-Contra. Barr was Bush’s AG. He advised Bush to pardon all White House suspects with ability to disclose Bush’s role in Iran-Contra. All pardoned, leaving Bush clear.
— Dan Cofran 🇺🇸 🏴 (@dancofran) August 6, 2023
Medium Cool – Music as Poetry!
piratedan
ty MSM for another stirring episode of the Bill Barr redemption tour, if there was only one available to your producers….
raven
@piratedan: Don’t ask where the ammo came from just shoot it.
The Pale Scot
OT;
The Flight Of The Phoenix – 1965 – James Stewart’
Is on uboobe, few commercials, great movie
WaterGirl
I think that after Trump, I loathe Barr the most. He was the fucking Attorney General of the United States, filled with hubris, with not one bit of integrity, sabotaging the democracy that he was there to protect.
Fuck Barr and his lies about the Mueller report and ALL THE WAYS that he supported Donald Trump.
I like to think that if he was standing in the middle of the road that I would not swerve to hit him, and I know I wouldn’t, but damn, what a horrible man. The call was coming from inside the house.
dm
What does Barr say right after “I’m not going to get into that…. ” in the “My favorite clip…”?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
No lie told.
Jeffro
I’m searching for a metaphor here…is Barr agreeing to testify about J6, ironically enough, the equivalent of Jim Baker agreeing to testify about what happened w/ Bush Sr’s Iran-Contra pardons?
No?
It’s just Party-Over-Country-ALWAYS Barr trying to nuke trump before trump can drag the party down to a historic defeat? He’d better hurry – even the not-very-astute Ross Douthat noted that the GOP is running out of time to take trump out, electorally speaking.
Steeplejack
It killed me that so many pundits forgot that Bill Barr was manning the turnstile when all of those Iran/Contra dicks got off scot free. A lot of them were like “Oh, he’s an honorable man, he’ll keep Trump in check.” As if. The Lawfare guy was particularly clueless/sanctimonious.
piratedan
@Jeffro: he still believes that there’s something to salvage, its as if he’s not been watching or listening to many Republicans as of late.
Granted, if he wants to throw Trump an anvil, I’m okay with it, would prefer it if the chain was wrapped around his ankle tho, because I sure don’t care to have him in the boat.
Baud
Do reporters still ask him if he would vote for Trump?
different-church-lady
I guess Bill better hope he’s hired good private security.
Redshift
The reason Barr joined the administration was never for TFG’s benefit…
Jeffro
btw trumpov’s latest tweet about needing a federal takeover of horrible, filthy DC…kind of obvious why he’s pounding that particular table, right? He even put it IN the tweet:
“THE FEDERAL TAKEOVER [that I am proposing, right here in this here tweet] IS VERY UNPOPULAR WITH POTENTIAL AREA JURORS, BUT VERY NECESSARY FOR SAFETY, GREATNESS, AND ALL THE WORLD TO SEE!”
“I tainted my own juror pool with my made-up shit, how about them apples!”
I look forward to the Judge’s response here…maybe she should just put it on the record that one Donald J. trump’s EXTREMELY TIMELY requests for a federal takeover of DC started once he was INDICTED in DC, and therefore…tough shit…the trial stays here, and any further animosity or bias he stokes amongst DC jurors is entirely on his ass.
JPL
@Baud: Last time they did, he said yes.
Dana Bash asked Pence and he was adament that trump would not be on the ballot. She also mentioned that Pence could have come forward sooner, and trump would have been impeached and he would not be allowed to run. He hemmed and hawed and said something about the constitution.
Lapassionara
@Jeffro: if you’re looking for a metaphor, try The Godfather. Do me a favor? Just disappear.
cmorenc
Let’s take Barr as a useful frenemy, if he helps to any significant extent in bringing Trump down. Eyes on the prize….taking Trump down is first priority over obsessing with Barr’s many humongous sins.
After all, who among us has never been a co-conspirator in covering up Russian corruption of an American presidential race by collaborating with one of the major-party candidaes.
hitchhiker
@Steeplejack:
Ben Wittes? He really was. We could trust Barr, because Wittes knew Barr and knew that he was an institutionalist.
Lol. I guess, to his credit, he did own that colossal mistake, in the pages of the Atlantic.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/bill-barrs-performance-was-catastrophic/588574/
Actually, Ben, consider us all burned.
dmsilev
Google Translate says that ‘throw under a bus’ in German is untereinenbuswerfen. Just for future reference.
Jeffro
@cmorenc: I’m good with taking Barr as a frenemy, but…why are clods like him and trumpov NOT having the heart attacks that they look like they’re well overdue for?
Is there no justice in this artery-clogged world?
Steeplejack
@hitchhiker:
Yes, Ben Wittes—what a maroon. He should have had his pundit card revoked. The utter, utter cluelessness. Just because you occasionally share a drink at the Criterion Club and your wives were together in the Junior League does not make him a good guy, Ben. Actually, it doesn’t make you a good guy either.
dmsilev
@Jeffro: Kissinger yet lives.
Sigh.
Redshift
@Jeffro: I skimmed Wikipedia, and boy has he always been a scumbag. Early proponent of mass incarceration (did you know that more people being locked up would actually be good for Black people?), including a cherry-picked report that “proved” a negative correlation between incarceration rates and crime rates (critics showed if he has used rates every five years instead of ever ten, there would have been no correlation. Instituting mass surveillance of innocent Americans’ communications, and more
sdhays
@Jeffro: Not in our fucked up medical system where fuckers like them get gold-plated healthcare and lots of others get much less.
Sure Lurkalot
Opus Dei hack who would vote for Trump if he’s the nominee sez what?
Nelle
@dmsilev: I still think of the person who was next up on a heart transplant list when Dick Cheney shoved his way in and grabbed a heart. I would have been so pissed if I was a donor and my heart went into Cheney’s body.
Villago Delenda Est
Anyone who served in an appointed position in the PAB malassstration is of questionable loyalty to the Constitution of the United States.
Villago Delenda Est
@piratedan: These are the same people who have been looking the other way at Henry Kissinger’s war crimes for 50 years.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@WaterGirl:
Hard to decide who was the worst of the Trump-enablers. Mitch McConnell is right up there. We see Rudy now as comic relief, but he has a strong claim. Then there’s John Eastman.
So many to choose from.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@raven: well said
@Jeffro: he’s having quite the Normal One tonight, as they say. He also took the time to respond to Nancy Pelosi’s “scared puppy” comment (twitter link)
NotMax
@Steeplejack
When the Good Go Bad.
;)
Jeffro
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: easy pickings for any op-ed writer out there who can copy, paste, and add a couple sentences: Does Any Of This Look Like the Protestations of An Innocent Man?
Alison Rose
@dm: I think he just started to repeat the same line, under his breath, as she said “okay” with that awkward little chuckle.
Jeffro
@dmsilev: Oh thanks, that’s comforting.
20+ more years of this insanity, even if he’s just barking from deep inside ADX Florence.
Side note: I was relating to Mrs. Fro this morning that either the Times or Post had up a piece about how (gasp) (horrors) difficult it would be to imprison a former prez, what with his Secret Service detail and all.
I was pleasantly surprised when she popped off, “fuck it…we’ll cross that bridge when we get there”
MY GIRL! =)
Villago Delenda Est
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Nancy SMASH! totally nailed the PAB, and his response just reinforces things.
Scout211
@Jeffro: He keeps demanding a “federal takeover” of the federal court in DC.
WTH is a federal takeover of a federal court?
Alison Rose
@Villago Delenda Est: It’s amazing how his groupies insist he’s a big tough guy when he was practically crying and wetting himself over being called a scared puppy. He’s the biggest manbaby on Earth, but he and they will continue to portray him as macho personified.
Mike in NC
One of the books on the Trump Error details how he would often ask Bill Barr why more people didn’t love him. (Said with tears in his eyes, no doubt.) Barr always responded, “The people think you’re a fucking asshole”.
Jackie
TIFG blames Biden for the USA’s loss in the WC. No surprise there, but his disgusting insult to Megan Rapinoe; not unexpected, made me more than pissed off. I truly hate that man.
“Donald Trump blamed President Biden on Truth Social for today’s loss suffered by the U.S. women’s soccer team, saying their early exit from the World Cup was “fully emblematic of what is happening to the our once great nation under Crooked Joe Biden.”
“He added: “Many of our players were openly hostile to America – No other country behaved in such a manner, or even close. WOKE EQUALS FAILURE. Nice shot Megan, the USA is going to Hell!!!””
He’s still sulking over their refusal to kiss his ass at the WH when they declined his invite four years ago.
Redshift
@Redshift: Oh, and he wrote an OLC opinion saying “rendition” is okay, refused to let Congress see it but gave them a summary, and when they subpoenaed it it turned out the summary was misleading. The guy definitely has a few ugly patterns he sticks to.
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
Appropriate.
Alison Rose
@Jackie: Oh he can fuck the fuck off. Rapinoe could beat the shit out of him and I for one would pay to see it. Also, like he gives a single shit about soccer.
Ken
Applying the “every accusation is a confession” theory of Republican behavior, I would guess that they regularly visit a pizza restaurant in New York City where in a secret basement lab they are transfused with blood and hormones extracted from kidnapped and murdered teenagers.
(You’ll notice the only thing that makes that difficult to believe is “pizza restaurant”…)
kalakal
@Mr. Bemused Senior:
Stephen Miller is very high on my list .
It’s not a little list and none of them will be missed
TS
@Jackie:
There is 100% no redeeming features to this man. My brain has difficulty comprehending how anyone can support him, let alone want him in charge of anything.
Most of us would be publicly ostracised if we said anything resembling this in any social situation whatsoever.
Princess
Barr is only doing this to save his own miserable hide. No love. But it does create a permission structure for other Republicans to turn on Trump in public and that can only be good.
Redshift
@Scout211: I think he’s calling for a federal takeover of all of DC. For not at all racist reasons which appeal to his mouth breathers. And because it doesn’t look as nice as it did when he was here and the Capitol windows were smashed, or something.
It’s a tough call whether that or the World Cup post is more deranged.
Villago Delenda Est
@Jackie: “Emblematic”? There is no way in hell that the PAB composed this “truth” himself.
Jeffro
@Jackie: I just saw that and was planning on making sure that’s the first thing my RWNJ relatives see on my FB page tomorrow morning
“Yes, THIS is the kind of leadership we need: taking time out from planning a legal defense to 70+ felony indictments in order to…insult our American national team players on social media, yes sir!”
But I think from here on out, I’m just going to reprint whatever he says or whatever indictments drop and say, “GOP OWNS THIS”
Redshift
@Ken: Imagine it as a Mob front pizza joint that no one actually goes to for pizza.
Villago Delenda Est
@Redshift: Washington DC was transported to Portland and burned to the ground.
Princess
Trump is certainly talking about Hell a lot these days. First Pelosi now the women’s soccer team is headed there. You
Scout211
@Redshift: Oh, okay. That makes a little bit more sense. For a deranged crazy person.
I read the truth social post but now I see that the “unfair trial” and “filthy DC” were separate parts of his diatribe. I thought he meant the embarrassment to our nation was his indictment.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@kalakal: From my youth I recall a performance of the Mikado where Ko-Ko gestures with V-for-victory signs when loudly singing “you know who!”. The audience roared.
dmsilev
@Scout211: Does he have any redeeming qualities?
smith
So Barr is willing to testify. How magnanimous of him. If he’s subpoenaed, would he have any choice?
different-church-lady
@Redshift: A federal takeover of a federal district?
dmsilev
@different-church-lady: In Trump’s defense, not only is he very evil, he’s also very stupid.
Scout211
@different-church-lady: I think he is insulting the Mayor, DC Council and local police and services. And really, anyone else who isn’t Donald J Trump.
smith
@different-church-lady: DC has home rule. I assume he means taking over the local city government. Why he thinks that would help him, I don’t know.
Alison Rose
@dmsilev: Who, Trump? He will die one day. That is his sole redeeming quality.
Scout211
@Alison Rose: Zing!
Viva BrisVegas
@different-church-lady:
What Trump is promising is a Republican takeover of a Federal District.
By which he means a MAGA takeover of DC as part of his “Retribution” plan.
feebog
Everything that has been said about Barr on this thread is absolutely true. He is a venal, amoral, lying sack of shit. But is is not stupid. There is a reason he resigned in mid-December; he saw the trainwreck coming and bailed out. Even if he testifies against Trump, he is not redeemable.
Jackie
@Villago Delenda Est: You’re right. The first part was written by someone else.
The “and he added part” was 100% him.
dmsilev
@Alison Rose: I suppose that’s one…
Jackie
@smith: Barr could always be a hostile witness, but in this case I think (hope) he will come through for Smith.
Look for TIFG going after him next.
Turgidson
@Scout211: something a scared moron might say, that’s all.
Jackie
@Alison Rose: Only if he dies SOON. Choking on a chunk of leather steak or from a catastrophic head injury falling out of his golf cart.
RaflW
That Dan Cofron comment is key. Barr is first and foremost a consigliere for old guard Republican criminals like Bush. Sure, Billy waived a lot of leg to get picked up by Trump, but it was always for Barr to try to finagle more power for his people.
Turned out the corrupt chaos of TFG-land was too twisty and stupid to really benefit Barr much, so the second Trump was a loser, Bill yanked the rip cord and parachuted out.
He’s a scoundrel, and probably was at least loosely an accessory to some corruption and/or criming, but in ways that would be hard to book him for. Better that he’s a state’s witness now. But never to be trusted, all the same.
Matt McIrvin
@JPL:
Oh, Mike, you sweet summer child. Who did he think would be, him?
Jackie
There’s a lot of loud Democrats in Kentucky! McTurtle looks flummoxed 😂
edited to hopefully fix link
https://twitter.com/TTEcclesBrown/status/1688010215915155456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1688010215915155456%7Ctwgr%5E00854e4caa589b838cb2621c6cb15c70f7c5aa55%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Fmitch-mcconnell-mercilessly-heckled-during-speech-with-chants-of-retire
SFAW
@Villago Delenda Est:
PAB? Punk-Ass Bastard/Bitch? Pasty-Ass Bastard/Bitch?
I apologize for not being aware of all Intertubez traditions.
Sebastian
Why is nobody mentioning the bootlicking application letter Barr wrote Trump, which got him the AG job?
Steeplejack
@Jackie:
Bad link fixed and Nitterized.
SFAW
@Alison Rose:
Perhaps more appropriate?
Steeplejack
@SFAW:
I think it’s punk-ass bitch or pussy-ass bitch, and I wish he would stop trying to make it a thing.
Jackie
@Steeplejack: Thanks, Steeplejack!😊
Mallard Filmore
@Jeffro:
My approach if I ever communicae with my RWNJ brother again will be similar, but my closing comment will be “What the Hell? THIS is what you’re fighting for?”
BeautifulPlumage
Wasn’t Barr’s dad the one who hired Epstein for the private girl’s school? To lazy to look myself.
zhena gogolia
@BeautifulPlumage: Yes, but it’s a coed school. Dalton.
BeautifulPlumage
@Steeplejack: SFAW:
For those who forgot: 9/9/2019 TIFG* tweeted to John Legend about his nasty wife. Chrissy called him out writing “lol what a pussy ass bitch. tagged everyone but me. an honor, mister president.” Hence PAB to refer TIFG.
It bothered him so much that he tried to get Twitter to take it down. This was brought up at a Feb 2023 house hearing on “right wing censorship” and entered into the congressional record.
*the indicted former guy
(Copied comment from earlier thread. I’m in favor)
Another Scott
Meanwhile, … France24.com:
Someone is always hurt by changes to the system. Ways can be found to minimize the hurt. But things like this need to be done for lots of reasons. And cities are better afterwards (that’s about highway removal, but the same principles apply).
Cheers,
Scott.
BeautifulPlumage
@zhena gogolia: thanks for the correction.
JaySinWA
I think the train wreck he saw was the failure of the takeover due to incompetence. He’d have been fine if he thought they would win and he would be on the winning side.
Alison Rose
@Steeplejack: Pussy ass bitch, which is forever etched into Congressional history. Merci, Chrissy Teigen
ETA others got there before me, but the link is a joy to read
Cheez Whiz
Barr’s whole schtick is protecting and expanding the Presidency. Who holds the office is a detail to him. He was happy to prostrate himself before the Orange King when he held the office, despite clearly believing he was not up to the job, bit now that he’s just another orange schmuck in the docket he could care less. He would do everything in his power to make DeSantis the God-King of his dreams, but clearly he has decided Trump is orange toast. Makes me wonder how connected Barr is to the Party infrastructure that is going to move heaven and earth to elect Trump next year.
Steeplejack
@BeautifulPlumage:
I get all of that, but “PAB” was dropped in a thread this morning with no clue or context to give anybody a hint. We get it now, and I still think it’s stupid to try to make it a thing when there are 50 other epithets available for Trump. We’ve barely gotten used to Ruckus’s SFB (“shit for brains”)!
Alison Rose
@Steeplejack: Which I still read in my head as “stupid fat and/or fucking bastard”. My mom still mostly calls him Dump.
Leto
@Another Scott: Amsterdam is known as bicycling heaven, but before that it was a traffic congested car hellscape. Took time for them to reverse it, and the same suspects shouted from the rooftops bloody murder, but eventually it changed. Hopefully something similar can happen in the Big Apple.
prostratedragon
@The Pale Scot: One of the all-time great freeze takes in that movie.
sdhays
@Ken: Curveball – it’s actually a Taco Bell.
dirge
As an outer borough car owner, I’m all for it. Though maybe starting with a lesser price would be good, for a gradual transition. And I’d exempt through traffic on the FDR so as not to shunt it over to the BQE, which is already bad enough. Or just expand the whole idea to include downtown Brooklyn too, then tear down the damned BQE.
As things currently stand, there are very few circumstances where I’d take a car into Manhattan. It’s generally much more expensive than the subway, unless willing to spend arbitrary time hunting for free parking, and only faster in the middle of the night. I’d actually be slightly more likely to drive in if $17 would get me a quick trip with light traffic and easy parking, assuming I had some motivation to pay for the convenience.
Alison Rose
Hey…it’s a thought.
sdhays
@JaySinWA: Yes. If he had even a modicum of patriotism, he would have remained AG and worked to stop it. Instead, he just slunk away. He thought it probably wouldn’t work out, but wasn’t sure enough to place any bets on that.
sdhays
@dirge: There’s free parking in Manhattan?! Madness!
Kent
What happened to the travel thread? Did it get vanished?
I’m on the last leg of my last college visit road trip with my youngest daughter. End of an era. We are are currently in Pullman taking another look at WSU and heading back home to Camas (Portland area) tomorrow after stocking up on Cougar Gold Cheese. We have already visited all the prospective in-state schools in Washington numerous times so this was to see out-of-state schools, mostly WUE schools (Western Undergraduate Exchange) which allows you to pay in-state tuition at state schools in 11 western states. Over the past week we have visited:
Oregon State, Oregon, Utah, Colorado State, Montana and Montana State (drive-by only) and now we are in Pullman taking a second look (or third) look at WSU.
I’m from Oregon, grew up in Eugene but haven’t really been back in ages. Thought that both Eugene and Corvallis were looking a little tired, especially Eugene which doesn’t seem to be aging particularly well. Neither school went really high on her list.
Of all the out-of-state school we we visited, Colorado State is the only one that stood out. Gorgeous campus and Fort Collins is super cool. It definitely jumped up into the top group for the daughter. She is basically a 3.4 or 3.5 GPA student so equal mix of A’s and B’s in HS meaning that schools like WSU and CSU are right in her wheelhouse. She wants to study psychology which is something every school has.
I’m not entirely sure what she is thinking, but at this point it is probably:
#1 Washington State (they are super friendly here and our tour guide graduated for her HS and they made her feel super welcome). Plus it is a cute town and campus and just the right distance from home. She wants to settle in the Northwest after college so going to Northwest school has advantages.
#2. Colorado State (looks like a very cool place to go to school but literally half way across the country. The tour was full of Texas and California kids in addition to all the Coloradans so I suspect it gets a lot of spillover students from both states.
#3. Western Washington University in Bellingham. Beautiful city and not that far away. Campus is kind of 1970s concrete though, but in a beautiful setting.
#4. (Tie) Seattle University and University of Puget Sound. Only private schools on her list. Have to see what kind of aid packages they offer as it is doubtful that paying full tuition at one of those private schools will pencil out compared to the public options.
Visited but not on the list (Lewis & Clark, Oregon, Oregon State, University of San Francisco, UW-Tacoma, UW-Bothell, UW-Seattle, Gonzaga)
M31
@sdhays: lol a couple of years ago I had a gig in NYC and stayed with a friend in Brooklyn, found a free parking spot right near their place, then went to lunch at Katz’s and found parking there then headed uptown for my gig, found parking there, had no troubles at all my entire visit.
My friend thinks I’m some kind of magic being — I’ll never try my luck with that ever again, will never beat that streak
HumboldtBlue
@SFAW:
No, not with the way she blew that penalty kick last night.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Apparently the latest conspiracy on the hard right is Ben Shapiro is secretly controlled by the left.
sdhays
@M31: Wow.
dmsilev
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Why in the name of anything holy would we want him?
Citizen Alan
@TS:
I will cut 2016 Trump voters a little slack because of the 30 year long disinfo campaign the GOP and the MSM ran against Hillary. But I genuinely question the fundamental humanity of 2020 Trump voters. I don’t think they have souls.
Geminid
@sdhays: I noticed that national security advisor Robert O’Brian had an engagement out of town on January 6. That sure was good timing!
mrmoshpotato
@Alison Rose: Didn’t she spend some time in Twitter jail for that?
RaflW
The best summer job I had growing up was as a courier/delivery driver for the Strand Bookstore at 12th & Broadway, NYC. I was eighteen years old.
Careening around the city in a nearly new Ford LTD station wagon with the fake wood paneling. I freakin’ loved that job. And I didn’t get a single ticket, nor did I put a scratch on that car in three months. I ended up being Fred Bass’s personal driver after just a few days (we lived in the same town in Westchester). So I went from commuting by train – six bucks a day even then – to getting overtime to be his temporary chauffeur.
Other employees did not know what to make of me (I did about 4-6 hrs of regular shelf stocking as the courier route was 2x daily at about 90 mins per run, plus traffic). Some days I got to run out to Queens to a book depository, or go with Fred to an estate sale. The union rep thought I was some sort of stooge. I was just a college kid between freshman and sophomore years. I bought a lot of books working there!
sdhays
@Citizen Alan: There was also the even longer propaganda campaign to make Trump seem like a brilliant businessman.
But then I think of Access Hollywood and…nope. Everyone knew what he was then, and his voters didn’t care.
sdhays
@Geminid: Brave Sir Robin ran away!
Geminid
@Princess: Barr could say nothing and still not be in peril. But he and his wealthy sponsors got their use out of Trump, and Barr has decided that his former boss is now bad for the GOP. So he’s ready to help double bag Trump and set him out by the curb for trash pickup.
Gin & Tonic
@Another Scott: What about people who actually live in Manhattan below 60th St?
Geminid
@sdhays: O’Brian knows a reputational security threat when he sees one.
Redshift
@Viva BrisVegas: Good point. To the limited extent there’s any coherent thought there, the thing he thinks is unacceptable is that DC is run by Democrats, and worse, by Black Democrats.
Alison Rose
@mrmoshpotato: I wouldn’t be surprised.
Lyrebird
@kalakal:
Yes I see what you did there,
I have a little list too.
S Miller might be at the top of mine as well. For the tearing children away from their families.
NotMax
@Leto
Amsterdam’s newest parking garage is underwater and bicycle only. Space for 7000 of them, in fact.
Timelapse of construction.
Lyrebird
@Scout211: Yeah, the racism sense is how I read his statement. It has taken me a while, but I have gradually learned that for MAGA sympathizers, slamming San Fran checks off their hating on gay Americans, while slamming New York is “virtue” signalling their hate for Jewish Americans. Slamming DC to put down African Americans is not uncommon in Virginia, didn’t know sociopaths from Queens would get in on it, too.
ETA: Sorry if my comment is mostly Captain Obvious level. I appreciated your comment and thought you might also enjoy this quote from Kos Moulitsas, best laugh of my evening,
Ken
@Lyrebird: When he MIXES CASE, it brings back MEMORIES though not FOND ONES of Robert McELWAINE and his “UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED, ESPECIALLY to COMPUTER BULLETIN BOARDS.”
NotMax
@M31
When was living for a time at East 40th Street and 2nd Avenue, there was a hidden secret a block away, a stretch of street (in actuality an extended entrance ramp to FDR Drive, curling around the old Con Ed plant) with free 24/7 parking spaces along one side of it.
Maybe just dumb luck but never once failed to find an open spot to park there.
Lyrebird
@Ken:
I came late to Usenet and was not aware of his oeuvre, thank you!
this “not-snack” memo is short but shows just what you said.
Jim Appleton
@RaflW: Every BJ commenter held the exact same job at Strand at some point, obviously.
We bad.
Yutsano
@Kent: I mean…you know what I would suggest lol. Here’s the thing: the first year in Pullman can seem very isolating. If she does decide on WSU I highly suggest she try to get into Smith Hall as a dorm. It’s small but the rooms are divided into groups of women (females only dorm) like 4 or 5 to a unit with a couple shared common areas right in the middle of campus. Everyone I know who stayed there loved it!
hitchhiker
@Kent:
We had one daughter up at Western and the other at Seattle U — both were in the right place, both finished in 4 yrs.
Western was just far enough away and a perfectly good school in a beautiful little college town. SU had (still does, I think) a student choir that became the core of her experience there — weird b/c until she decided to join it she hadn’t shown much interest in singing.
Now she has a professionally trained voice and can be in choirs wherever she goes. Anyway, you brought me back. They’re mid-30s now, so it’s been a while since we went through this process.
dirge
The vast majority do not own, or want, a car. Of the few who do, a third are so rich it doesn’t matter, a third would be happier if they got rid of the car, and the remaining third would be happier if they drove to Jersey and stayed there.
Kent
@Yutsano: If she goes to WSU there will probably be 50 kids there from her HS which sends loads of kids there. But thanks for the advice on Smith Hall. I’ll bookmark that idea in case she winds up there.
No matter what I think she’ll be fine. She has a good head on her.
Kent
@hitchhiker: Seattle U is just one subway stop away from UW where her older sister is. That is a bit too close I think if you know what I mean. She wants to chart her own path not have an older sister right next door. Even though her mother would probably prefer to have them together.
Ruckus
I’ve said here before, rethuglican presidents in my lifetime except possibly Eisenhower have been not even close to good. Some would have to have improved about 1000% to rise to shit. The reason I label ShitForBrains what I do is that he was the worst. The problem is that their concept of governing, other than SFB was to enhance the wealthy and not worry about the rest of us. SFB cares only about enriching himself. And he was even crap at that.
Barr is no different other than he could see the wheelbarrow of shit being brought in and he’d have someone else check to see if the fan was on so his fingerprints weren’t on the wheelbarrow or the fan switch. He doesn’t mind that the shit is being spread as long as his fingerprints aren’t found. But his load of plausible deniability has been long gone.
Rethuglicans do not want a better country, unless your idea of better means that they win everything and control all the dollars and have an almost unlimited ability to make bank, for doing nothing other than being shit.
I don’t think Eisenhower was like that, I think he had and used more ability to look forward and see the country rather than his bank account. Still a conservative being but not one you could label as shit. My study of American history, when seen as who was president at the time, conservative or liberal showed me that liberal meant thinking about the entire country not an individual’s bank account. Yes some of those supposedly liberal were not in any way pioneers in ending racism or sexism or _________, but they at least were in it for the somewhat greater good, not their own personal enrichment. What we see today on the conservative side is what always has been, we just have the ability to see it far more clearly and far more rapidly. We see it happening in real time not in a watered down history book.
Ruckus
@Alison Rose:
I’ve never said this about another person.
Not Fucking Soon Enough.
Ruckus
@Alison Rose:
Whatever works for you. I believe that there are never enough ways to suggest just how bad and fucked up he is. Also I don’t have to type his name. Because as bad as he’s made his name, there are likely people with his last name who aren’t one big pile of shit or whose outlet port empties into his brain. Like he is/does.
Anyway
@HumboldtBlue:
Heh. She was so bad — it was embarrassing.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
The canal boats were fun to ride in and find out a lot about the city in a short time.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@dmsilev: His incompetence. The thought of “Trump, but competent” scares the living hell out of me. As it was, his attempt to extort Zelenskyy into ratfucking Joe Biden was incompetent enough to get him impeached. He’s done enough damage that a lot of us won’t live to see it set right, but that’s nothing compared to the damage someone with his morals but actually competent could have done.
Chris Johnson
@feebog: Barr AND McConnell saw the trainwreck coming and bailed out. Barr isn’t the only smart traitor.
I’m curious how much McConnell is helping the investigations. You can’t trust a dishonest politician to stay bought no matter WHO you are. I’m certain that McConnell’s in it up to the neck as far as Russian treason is concerned, but I’m also certain that post-Ukraine, McConnell correctly figured out that Russia had lost, and from that point it was a done deal and he’s been quietly working against them ever since.
trnc
It’s not just about if we can believe him on tv. If Barr takes the stand, watch for DT’s lawyers to attempt to use Barr’s own actions to help him with the Mueller Report used to discredit him as a witness. That would obviously be tricky and would probably implicate DT in the Russian campaign crimes. His lawyers’ superpowers seem to be implicating him in crimes, so it fits. OTOH those crimes aren’t relevant to this case other than to further illustrate how much DT lies.
Miss Bianca
@Kent: I’ve lived in Colorado for 25 years and I have never heard anyone refer to Colorado State University as “Colorado State”. Don’t worry, tho – if your daughter does end up going here (highly recommended, btw), y’all will learn to say “CSU” like a native within a calendar year. :)
evodevo
@Kent:
My advice from experience (and Mr.Evodevo’s psych experience) – it’s best not to pay a lot for an undergrad degree…the grad degrees are what count. It’s a waste of money, because you can get a perfectly good bachelor’s anywhere, and maybe she’ll change her mind about her major. People often do.