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Can someone explain who Judge McAfee is and what reason a judge would have for not accepting a trial date from a prosecutor?

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  4. 4.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    can’t speak to McAfee– though I believe judges are elected in GA?– or the law, but Littman is one of my TeeVee/twitter imaginary lawyer friends I tend to trus

    Harry Litman @harrylitman 56m
    Trump says he will move to sever from Chesebro. These emerging differences among defendants are all to the good for Willis.

  5. 5.

    Scout211

    Here’s the latest from ajc

    [Court filing at the end of the article]

    A Fulton County Superior Court Judge on Thursday set an Oct. 23 trial date for one of the 19 defendants in Georgia’s sweeping election subversion case.

    In a day of fast-moving developments, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis proposed the new, aggressive start date for the 41-count racketeering trial in response to Kenneth Chesebro’s motion seeking a speedy trial. Judge Scott McAfee weighed in a few hours later setting the trial date Willis wanted but ruling it would apply only to Chesebro, a Trump-affiliated attorney who was indicted for his work helping assemble a slate of “alternate” Republican electors in Georgia.

    McAfee scheduled Chesebro’s arraignment for Sept. 6, ordered most pretrial motions to be filed by Sept. 27 and scheduled a pretrial conference for Sept. 29.

    Due to the defendant’s timely demand for speedy trial … scheduling will occur on an expedited timeline,” McAfee wrote. “At this time, these deadlines do not apply to any co-defendant.”

    Scott Grubman, one of Chesebro’s attorneys, said Thursday, his client, “will be prepared to move forward with trial on whatever date the court ultimately sets.”

    Trump’s new attorney, Steve Sadow, had earlier filed a motion saying the former president will move to sever his case from Chesebro’s. The motion asked McAfee to set a conference at his earliest convenience to discuss the DA’s motions and to set a trial date.

  6. 6.

    LAO

    I can’t really figure it out. I’m not sure what the heck goes on in Georgia state court. Seems very strange to me.

    But I did say earlier that I thought the speedy trial motion was an indirect severance motion, so despite being gobsmacked, apparently I was right. Weird.

  7. 7.

    Old School

    From Wikipedia:

    In 2019, McAfee was appointed as an assistant United States Attorney for the United States District Court for the Northern District of Georgia.[1] He worked in the criminal division where he investigated and prosecuted drug trafficking organizations, fraud, and illegal firearms possession.[4][1][3] On April 1, 2021, Georgia governor Brian Kemp appointed McAfee as the state inspector general.[4][1][11] In December 2022, Kemp appointed him to the Fulton County Superior Court following Christopher S. Brasher’s retirement.[12] He was sworn in on February 1, 2023.[1]

  8. 8.

    Scout211

    And about Judge McAfee, also the ajc

    A few snippets:

    The judge who has been assigned the sweeping racketeering case against former President Donald Trump and 18 others is a 34-year-old former prosecutor and inspector general who took the bench just six months ago.

    Scott McAfee is also an award-winning trial lawyer, a veteran musician and an athlete who has volunteered as a scuba diver with the Georgia Aquarium. He was appointed to be a Fulton County Superior Court judge by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp.
    . . .
    After graduating from UGA, McAfee prosecuted cases in Barrow County as an assistant district attorney. He briefly switched to private practice, focusing on personal injury cases.

    In 2015, he returned to prosecuting, this time in Fulton, where he handled hundreds of felony and misdemeanor cases, ranging from DUI to armed robbery. For part of his tenure in Fulton, he worked under Willis. She unseated longtime District Attorney Paul Howard in the 2020 election and is now leading the prosecution against Trump and his allies.

    While working for the Fulton DA’s office, McAfee was named the 2016 trial court lawyer of the year and was promoted to the major case division, where he was assigned homicide-related cases. McAfee handled the prosecution of Ardentric Johnson, who was found guilty in 2017 and sentenced to life in prison for the grisly murder of two women . . .

    Added:

    McAfee’s even temperament was on display in early June when he presided over a hearing on whether to find retired Atlanta lawyer Lin Wood in contempt for violating a court order in a suit filed against him by former law partners. Wood, an election denier who rose to national prominence as a libel lawyer, represented himself.

    McAfee patiently allowed Wood to have his say. During his rambling defense, Wood leveled unfounded accusations, saying his former partners were affiliated with a CIA operative and had conspired with one of Wood’s children to have him undergo a mental health evaluation by the daytime TV talk show host “Dr. Phil.” In the end, McAfee found Wood in contempt and ordered him to pay $5,000 in fines.

  10. 10.

    bbleh

    I read somewhere (TPM?) that he has accepted the trial date only for Cheese-bro for now, the implication being that he hasn’t decided anything about the others, nor about TFG’s motion for separation.

    @LAO: except I think I read also that accepting the trial date explicitly did not imply separation.

    Pretty sure the order’s online.  I haven’t read it.

  12. 12.

    CaseyL

    I know there is a concern about revealing evidence in Chesebro’ trial that could benefit the other defendants, but I don’t see how knowing about the evidence ahead of time actually helps them.

    Rather the opposite: they’ll know just how thoroughly they’re screwed. Waiting for a trail to make it official would be ….stressful.

  13. 13.

    WaterGirl

    @LAO:

    Trump says he will move to sever from Chesebro.

    I think that’s what Harry Litman was saying is overall good for Fani Willis.

    I suspect that means they are no longer hanging together.  We can only hope that it means that Benjamin Franklin was correct when he said:

    We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.

    Let’s hope they all hang separately, metaphorically speaking.

  16. 16.

    Suzanne

    What is the benefit, for Cheese-bro, of severing from the rest? Is that advantageous for TFG? Or Willis? Soooooo many shenanigans!

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    Our heat index is currently 118 here in Champaign.  Pretty sure that I would not do well in hell, if it’s this hot there!

    edit: It’s so humid that this morning the ground was wet and I thought it had rained. It had not.

  20. 20.

    Leto

    It will always be Cheesebro, and you’ll never change my mind on that :P

    @Suzanne: ​ so much shenannigans, so much drama; I know the all the actors and writers are on strike atm, but damn this season is really shaping up.

  21. 21.

    JWR

    @Scout211:

    Trump’s new attorney, Steve Sadow, had earlier filed a motion saying the former president will move to sever his case from Chesebro’s.

    Is this sort of whittling down a reason Willis may never have to try all 19 defendants together? If so, I wonder who else might move to have their case severed from the rest.

    ETA or what @WaterGirl said at #13.

  25. 25.

    No One of Consequence

    What distinction ‘A Veteran Musician’?! He play a war or?

    Or was there a dropped comma?

    Inquiring minds / pedants WANT TO KNOW!!!
    ;)
    Peace,
    -NOoC

  27. 27.

    Scout211

    @Suzanne: What is the benefit, for Cheese-bro, of severing from the rest?

    IANAL (but I do have many hours of watching Law & Order, LOL) so it makes me wonder if Chesebro wants a deal, a separate deal and the very first deal.

  28. 28.

    LAO

    @WaterGirl: I absolutely agree with your analysis.  What I was trying to say is that I wouldn’t apply Litman’s statement to the newest development (a trial date specifically set only for a single defendant).
    I think Litman is brilliant but he wasn’t talking about the Cheseboro potential trial date.

  30. 30.

    Suzanne

    @WaterGirl: My non-legal mind, at first blush, thinks like it would be easier to construct an understandable narrative of the crime if everyone’s in one trial and all the evidence is there. But, for a lawyer, I make a great architect. ;)

  32. 32.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Scout211:
     

    Trump’s new attorney, Steve Sadow

    Sadow is a really, really good criminal defense attorney. Not LAO good, of course, but still very impressive. Trump did well with that.

  33. 33.

    piratedan

    despite the time honored tradition of the GOP doubling down on the usual legislative shenanigans, I fully expect the small fry to sing and plead out to assist in making the cases on the better funded big fry.

    So, even tho we’re seeing some of the folks at the top scramble, I’m guessing that it’s still early and those folks in the middle and at the bottom when faced with real fucking jail time may have a deep contemplative thought or two regarding “standing on principle” for a dude who doesn’t have any.

    Doesn’t all come down to wether or not the judge buys the bullshit that Trump will be selling?

  35. 35.

    mrmoshpotato

    @WaterGirl:

    edit: It’s so humid that this morning the ground was wet and I thought it had rained. It had not. 

    This made me laugh out loud!

    99 up north, feels like 118.  Looking forward to the break in the heat tomorrow.  With hopefully some fun storms blowing through tonight.

  36. 36.

    JaySinWA

    @LAO: I thought in Georgia law at least the speedy trial motion compelled the prosecution to start by a certain time. I didn’t see any wiggle room to deny it.

    Maybe the gamble was that they would dismiss in order to keep advantage in the rest of the case? But my first thought was that Chesbro sees economics not on his side the longer the case drags out, and thinks he will win so get it done hopefully before bankruptcy. He’d probably go for a deal if he thought he was going to lose.

  41. 41.

    tobie

    After the CNN story broke that Chesebro was at the Capitol on Jan 6 and video recording Alex Jones, capitolhunters put together a reconstruction of his movements that day. The thesis was that Jones was there to direct the crowd on where to break in and Chesebro was recording what was happening and communicating with someone offsite. After he received texts, it looked like he was making gestures to indicate where the crowd should move. I haven’t seen any follow up on this but it was an interesting thread, and if true, it puts Chesebro at the very heart not just of the legal theory of the insurrection but the attack itself.

  42. 42.

    WaterGirl

    @mrmoshpotato: We don’t get our break in the heat until Saturday.  Please please let us get the storm on Friday night that will bring down the temps and give some relief to all the humans and growing things.

  43. 43.

    catclub

    @piratedan: Doesn’t all come down to whether or not the judge buys the bullshit that Trump will be selling?

     

    With any luck it comes down to a jury.

  44. 44.

    trollhattan

    Prerelease of Trump’s first letter from jail to BarronIvanka:

    Tell Mother to order for you a Monthly Magazine I get here, Called ‘Fortune’…as to my estimation I think it is the most sensible Magazine written. Well Son, there isn’t much I can write, but chin up, always, and at any time, there is something you need or want, please don’t forget Son, that whatever you ask for, it will be done irregardless. I know Maggie gets out to your College suite often, as that sure breaks up the old Blues, and when you see her again give her a couple dozen kisses Capone style and a first class hug. God bless you my dear Son, and it’s short time Son, I will be with you in less than a year.
    Al CaponeDonald Festivus Trump
    Letter to his sonfavorite daughter
    16th January 1938Soon

    Does it need more ALL CAPS?

  51. 51.

    JaySinWA

    @Steve in the ATL: Ah, I asked late in the post below about bail in the Georgia case.

    Why aren’t these “fine upstanding gentlemen” getting ROR’d? The one article I found said this was the first time out of all the indictments that Trump had been made to put up money. I didn’t expect that for him or most of the motley crew. They don’t look like the typical flight risk stereotypes.

    I’m not complaining, but what’s the rationale for bail/bond in these cases?

  52. 52.

    PDXBob

    I think another reason for the speedy trial motion by Cheesebro was due to the fact that neither Trump nor his PAC are paying for Cheesebro’s lawyer.  I think he know that Trump will try to delay, delay and delay some more, which could add up lawyer time for him. Since he doesn’t have Trump’s donors paying for his defense, he may not have the funds to pay for council for a long time.

  53. 53.

    JPL

    As far as I can tell, Harrison Floyd is still being held without a bond agreement.  If he is held overnight, I imagine he will be first to flip, but not sure how valuable his information would be

    Possible first flip?

  54. 54.

    Redshift

    @JWR:

    Is this sort of whittling down a reason Willis may never have to try all 19 defendants together? If so, I wonder who else might move to have their case severed from the rest.

    Similar to what WaterGirl said,v from what I understand the reason she’s unlikely to have to try 19 defendants is because some are likely to flip as things get real. That’s apparently very common in RICO cases, including her previous ones.

  56. 56.

    JPL

    BTW  Local news  tried to interview the Wolf, and after a little of huffing, he said hey I’m a wolf.   It is hot and to be dressed as a wolf has to be awful.

  59. 59.

    Geminid

    @mrmoshpotato: I saw video from one hell of a storm in Mecca, Saudi Arabia a few days ago. Heavy wind and rain, and wild lightning. Very unusual for those parts.

  62. 62.

    Mike in NC

    Just saw a photo of the GOP debate lineup. Except for Nikki Haley, every one of them was wearing the “Trump uniform” of dark blue suit, white dress shirt, and red necktie. Almost as if it’s a requirement to dress up as a Trump mini-me! Pathetic.

  63. 63.

    JWR

    @Redshift:

    the reason she’s unlikely to have to try 19 defendants is because some are likely to flip as things get real.

    Yes, flipping too, so let’s hear it for the flippers!

  65. 65.

    Dangerman

    Seems to me that if Mr. Cheesehead goes speedy and gets the book (Tolstoy) tossed at him, the others may be inspired to cut a deal. Especially Trump.

  66. 66.

    Geminid

    @Jackie: Trump seems to be taking his professional help more seriously now. At least, that seems to be the case with his campaign operation. He’s a fool in many ways, but Trump has a lizard-brain survival instinct that tells him he is in real trouble now, so he may break from prior patterns and do what the pros tell him.

  67. 67.

    Roger Moore

    @No One of Consequence:

    What distinction ‘A Veteran Musician’?! He play a war or?

    It probably means he’s been a musician for a long time, not that he was a musician in the military.  According to his Wikipedia article, he got a cello scholarship at Emory and graduated with a dual major in political science and music.

  68. 68.

    No One of Consequence

    Thanks for the assist. I play a couple of instruments, and once did a fairly good stab at Sultans of Swing at a show at a gas station once, so was pretty sure I didn’t qualify, but hadn’t heard that term before.

    Veteran session player, or veteran touring artist, I get.

    Peace,
    -NOoC

  69. 69.

    Shalimar

    @LAO: I’m not sure how much prosecuting Chesebro first hurts Willis.  The indictment went into intricate details about the conspiracy beyond just the crimes that are being charged.  Defense attorneys already have a much better idea of what to prepare for than they would in a normal prosecution.

  72. 72.

    JPL

    @Geminid: yup!  He probably can quit the laxatives he takes because of the junk food he eats, also.

    There’s a term for that scared ……..

  73. 73.

    JaySinWA

    @JaySinWA: Never mind, looking again it’s not an Oxford comma issue, it’s probably just a weird turn of phrase. The Judge doesn’t seem to have a military background, so veteran musician probably means he no longer plays.

  74. 74.

    Steeplejack

    @JaySinWA:

    Or just that he has been playing for a long time (but not continuously!). “Veteran” does not automatically mean “ex-.”

  75. 75.

    Scout211

    @No One of Consequence:

    My former BIL is a “veteran musician.”  He retired from the Navy after serving in the brass section of the Navy band for his entire military career.

    In Miriam-Webster, the second definition is likely why the author used that phrase.  (Although the guy is only 34 years old so a veteran musician is likely overstating his musical career).

    a person of long experience usually in some occupation or skill (such as politics or the arts)

  76. 76.

    JWR

    These people! (From Politico)

    House Republicans are replaying a familiar script: playing political defense in former President Donald Trump’s legal battles.

    The House Judiciary Committee on Thursday launched an investigation into Georgia’s Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, hours before Trump is expected to turn himself in following his indictment on racketeering charges related to his push to overturn the 2020 presidential election in that state.

    Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), in a letter to Willis, said the “indictment and prosecution implicate substantial federal interests, and the circumstances surrounding your actions raise serious concerns about whether they are politically motivated.” A spokesperson for Willis didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on the letter.

    Jordan is asking Willis to hand over details on any federal funds the office receives by Sept. 7, as well as communications with the Justice Department — including Special Counsel Jack Smith, who is leading a federal probe into Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election that’s left the former president facing four separate criminal counts.

    Hasn’t he tried this before, only to be stopped cold by issues relating to Separation of Powers?

  77. 77.

    Jeffro

    Well, it’s almost Arraignment Time and I need some wardrobe help!

    Should I go with “BYEDON 2020”, in royal blue?  Or the classic black shirt w/ “DIRTY FUCKER” in bold white type + trump’s ugly scowling mug?

  80. 80.

    JPL

    Why?  Trump is a billionaire so he can cover this.
    Former President Donald Trump will be using a metro Atlanta bonding company to cover the cost of his $200,000 bond in Fulton County, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has confirmed.
    Charles Shaw, the CEO of Lawrenceville-based Foster Bail Bonds LLC, confirmed that his company has been contracted to work with the former president when he surrenders at the Fulton County jail on Thursday evening.
    ”We will be posting his bond when he arrives,” Shaw told the AJC.

  82. 82.

    Jeffro

    One of my HS buds and his family made a homemade ‘Fulton County arrest cake’

    The stick figure on it has tiny little gel icing handcuffs…I’m dyin’…

  91. 91.

    JPL

    @JPL: Probably not.   It appears to be media.  Now discussing how to get to jail with all the traffic.

    ha still waiting for trump

    they are discussing his tweets about Atlanta being a murder capital

  95. 95.

    Jeffro

    Btw OT but I just flipped over to Fox News for a sec and wow…Laura Ingraham has very clearly had some serious work done recently.  She could barely move her lips to talk(!)

  96. 96.

    TS

    Our local news has its say. This one made me laugh

    Dozens of protesters gathered outside the jail ahead of Mr Trump’s arrival, many braving sweltering heat for hours.

  97. 97.

    JPL

    and here he comes and he waves to someone but not sure anyone is there

     

    There is no one waiting ot greet him.

  99. 99.

    JPL

    @TS: Did they mention the Wolf?   He’s my hero because when he was asked a question by local news, he answered hey I’m just a wolf.

  103. 103.

    BeautifulPlumage

    @Jeffro: ​
     From the Contact Us page : To contact the blog owner, any Balloon Juice writer, or any contact listed above, send email to [name]@balloon-juice.com.
    I suggest WaterGirl.

  104. 104.

    Scout211

    Chyron on CNN’s life feed:

    TRUMP DEPARTS PLANE IN GA FOR HISTORIC FOURTH ARREST

    Historic? Will it go down in INFAMY?

  106. 106.

    TS

    @Alison Rose:

    Just switched it on – Joy is telling it – but then I saw the trump train leave – A DOZEN VEHICLES (may have been more) – Obama didn’t have that many when he travelled the US & the world. What a massive fraud this man is. And the SS – do they pay for this –  is the whole organisation pro trump?

  107. 107.

    Ken

    @JPL: The bail bond company charges a 10% fee, so Trump is paying them $20,000 which he’ll never get back; versus paying the court $200,000 which he gets back provided he shows up for the trial.  So it does sound like he doesn’t have $200,000 in ready cash; or —

    Maybe he’s planning to skip out, and by using the bail bond company he’s only out $20,000. Bounty hunters would normally be a problem, but maybe he’s got his eye on a country where he’d have the government’s protection?

  109. 109.

    prostratedragon

    @Alison Rose:  She made a good point about spectacle, which is even more dangerous when the audience has a taste for buffoons, as Joy just said.

  110. 110.

    Ken

    @JPL: He’s gonna be stuck in traffic, just sayin.

    What’s the deadline for turning himself in? And does he immediately become a fugitive from justice, or does the judge need to make a formal declaration?

  111. 111.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Geminid:

    so he may break from prior patterns and do what the pros tell him.

    I predict the opposite.  When the trial starts, there will be big problems because he will demand his defense include ‘the election was stolen.’​
    @Ken: ​

    What’s the deadline for turning himself in?

    12:30pm tomorrow. He probably won’t be in a traffic jam that long.

  112. 112.

    JPL

    @Steve in the ATL: OMG It’s questionable.   I know what the rat stands for, but what about the wolf.  Might be time to pick sides.

    Poor wolf looked like he/she was gonna faint.   Time to raise minimum wage.

  114. 114.

    Mike in NC

    @Jeffro: Laura Ingraham has very clearly had some serious work done recently.  She could barely move her lips to talk(!)

    As if that’s a bad thing!

  119. 119.

    TS

    @JPL:

    He’s gonna be stuck in traffic, just sayin.

    Cleared the roads –  another undeserved privilege at the expense of the local people.

  120. 120.

    JPL

    Okay here he comes!  There really is a good restaurant nearby for those hanging out hoping to get a glimpse of the asshole.

  121. 121.

    Scout211

    There’s zero traffic. Did they clear the highway? The eleventy SUVs have smooth sailing.

  122. 122.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Geminid:

    Let me add:  Trump will demand that the defense include that the election was stolen, but he will try to weasel word it like he did talking about whether he would rape a woman in the rape civil suit.  It will work exactly as well as it did in that case.

  123. 123.

    Ruckus

    @Suzanne:

    I believe it is advantageous for him. As long as he doesn’t get to far out over his skis anyway. It also disconnects him from the group which might allow him to make the point that he was an attorney not a participant. I don’t think that will work for him. This is of course an unusual case, it’s difficult to get all this many idiots in one place at the same time so him separating himself seems like a smart move, and as likely none of the others seem to have the ability to contemplate anything much more than autonomic breathing may be better for him.

  128. 128.

    bbleh

    @Geminid: @Jackie: @Steve in the ATL: might have something to do with the fact that the PAC is paying for the lawyers (with Other People’s Money)

    @JWR: I suspect they don’t care, because it’s all theater.  They’ll use speculation and third-hand conspiracy-theory “evidence” and whatever else they think will rile up the stupids.  And if Fani tells them to pound sand, they’ll wail and whine about that uppity … local prosecutor defying the Yoo-nited States Congress etc and so on.

  136. 136.

    JPL

    @Scout211:  this is not the time or place for something to happen, so I don’t blame them.  He’s more in danger from his supporters who admire Hitler, then anyone else.

  137. 137.

    Origuy

    @WaterGirl: UIUC closed once when I was there, 1977, I think. A really bad ice storm. It was treacherous to step on a sidewalk. The closed it because the professors couldn’t get in.

  145. 145.

    bbleh

    @Baud: perhaps they will throw themselves on his funeral pyre? by the thousands? Or maybe a meme could be implanted that committing ritual suicide on his grave is, like, the most MAGAty thing evaarrrrr.  Or just in front of a picture of him, cuz there’s a lot of them.  They could have, like, parties, like they used to do to give themselves COVID or measles.

  146. 146.

    Steve in the ATL

     

    @Baud: failed real estate developers will fight over shards of the True Ketchup Bottle, swearing that it has aphrodisiac power

  147. 147.

    Alison Rose

    Rachel just said per the pool reporting “as of now, Donald Trump is under arrest in the state of Georgia” and I think I heard angels singing

    eta I mean…released on bond within moments of course, but even still

  149. 149.

    Baud

    Georgia, Georgia
    The whole day through (the whole day through)
    Just an old sweet arrest 
    Keeps Georgia on my mind (Georgia on my mind)

  155. 155.

    Alison Rose

    HAHAHAHA just got an email from the Biden campaign, subject line “Apropos of nothing” and the body just says “I think today’s a great day to give to my campaign” with the donate buttons.

  159. 159.

    Jeffro

    @Baud: I think Tucker really wants it to happen, unfortunately.  Whether by a D or an R or whomever.  It would solve a LOT of problems for the GOP and given how Tucker feels about TFG, it’d make him happy too.

    And I wouldn’t put it past Tucker to say it again and again, in the hopes that some nut job latches on to the idea for whatever reason…

    ”yeah…I’ll do it and make it look like the Dems and and and…”

    Anyway, enough of that.

  162. 162.

    M31

    the twitterati are reporting Trump’s self-reported height and weight:

    6’3″, 215

    hahahahahahah

  165. 165.

    wjca

    Breaking News!  (Invented out of whole cloth.)

    All the rumors about who would flip first were wrong.  Trump has just announced he will flip on everybody else!  He intends to claim, going forward, that all the reports that he pleaded guilty in exchange for a reduced sentence were “fake news!”  (Lying, after all, is his core competency.)

    If you believed this I’ve got some premium grade snake available at rock bottom prices…

  167. 167.

    Quinerly

    @Alison Rose: I know what they said. Things can change. He was in and out quickly.

    I’m so fucking sick of Trump.

    Let’s have an OT and talk about Dark Winds! I actually saw Zahn at Indian Market here in Santa Fe Sunday. He is gorgeous.

  168. 168.

    Jackie

    @Kristine: I did too! Every time I’ve seen that name in print today I’ve had to stop reading and recompute my brain to read FLOYD.

  169. 169.

    Jeffro

    @Baud: yeah but a) they think ANY of their guys can beat Biden and b) what ‘they’ think about the election and what some nut might think he needs to do are two separate things.

  175. 175.

    smith

    @Alison Rose: I think the question is whether or not they release it.

    If they try to withhold it, the media will FOIA it, like 30 seconds later. They might as well just release it.

  187. 187.

    Geminid

    @Frankensteinbeck: I’m not predicting Trump will do what the pros tell him, just that he may. But I’m not sure anyone can predict with certainty what he’s going to tell his lawyers to do, no matter how well they understand- or think they understand- Trump’s psychology.

  188. 188.

    Brachiator

    A few headlines while we wait on Trump

    Fox News GOP debate averages 12.8 million viewers without Trump, indicating strong interest in rest of the Republican field.

    Trump may not be as inevitable as he thinks he is.

    Kentucky school districts cancel classes less than 2 weeks into school year due to Covid-19, viruses and strep outbreaks

    Public health is not partisan or a matter of opinion.

    Fact check: Contrary to Trump’s claims, Atlanta murder is down sharply this year and nowhere near a record

    In a social media post Thursday afternoon, hours before he was planning to surrender for processing at a Fulton County jail, Trump claimed that in Atlanta, “Murder and other Violent Crimes have reached levels never seen before.”

    But of course, Trump’s ignorant base believe that Atlanta must falling apart, because their Big Orange Liar says so.

  190. 190.

    Alison Rose

    @Quinerly: It was just reported on MSNBC that there was a mugshot taken.

    ETA and I see you saw that! I hope we get it soon. I wonder if he’s gonna go for his fake tough boy face or a shit-eating grin with a thumbs up.

  192. 192.

    Quinerly

    @Nelle: such a great actor. I guess you are watching the show. The trading post in the second episode is owned by a friend and his family in Cerrillos, NM. I drove out last Fall when they were filming there. No Zahn then, but pretty cool.

  194. 194.

    smith

    @Brachiator: All the cities are falling apart. Portland is a smoking ruin, and in Chicago if you want to go anywhere you have to shoot your way out of your house. Everybody knows that.

  199. 199.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Steve in the ATL: For Trumpers, I absolutely believe that it does. As does any other talisman of Trump’s.

    Whoever gets the fabled Yellow Combover Weave is going to be rolling in MAGA women

  200. 200.

    Pharniel

    @rikyrah: ​
     

    OH man, that one of my oldest friends. Like, since middle school.

    She’s great, and she’s going to be super stoked that I found someone promoting her videos in the wild.

    For everyone else, everything she does is dope, but her talking about the racism in the Asian American community and Asian themed Incel/Racism spaces are strong.

    They also got her swarmed with chuds, so if you do like her videos show some love with positive comments or whatever passes for thumbs up/likes on TikTok

  201. 201.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Steve in the ATL: ​
     

    based on information and belief, neither JPL nor I has been murdered this year

    Yeah, but I bet you were murdered at least four times in the last decade, amirite?

  203. 203.

    Redshift

    @Brachiator:

    But of course, Trump’s ignorant base believe that Atlanta must falling apart, because their Big Orange Liar says so.

    And Atlanta is blackity-Black, so they’d believe it if pretty much anyone said it.

  208. 208.

    Origuy

    But of course.

    NBC News: The Fulton County Sheriff’s office responded to a bomb threat at the Fulton County Courthouse, the sheriff tells @NBCNews. K-9 units and police are en route.
    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 25, 2023

  210. 210.

    ETtheLibrarian

    @Suzanne: i saw talk that he may have thought the DA wasn’t ready with the implication being she wouldn’t be prepared. I am assuming they had everything locked before announcing indictments.

    Of course when it comes to facing the law, the early bird may get the best worms.

  211. 211.

    lowtechcyclist

    Here in the DC area, things have been pretty comfortable since Tuesday. Yesterday morning before dawn, it was almost chilly. :-)

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