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Quiet Night

by WaterGirl|  October 9, 20238:09 pm| 156 Comments

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What’s everybody up to?

I am feeling kind of melancholy at the moment because it kind of feels like the world is on fire, and on top of that our 37 degree low tonight just turned into a prediction of 32 degrees, and the end of the garden season is just so sad for me.

Henry is hanging in his chair, with Tucker’s favorite snuggly animal.

That’s one of my swivel rockers from the screened-in porch,   The metal rod that allowed it to swivel and rock broke last fall, so I moved the now-short chair into the house, in front of the window to the street so Henry can hang out there with a better view of the street.

For those of you who don’t believe Henry has ears, you now have proof that he does!

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    October 9, 2023 at 8:13 pm

    and the end of the garden weed season is just so sadjoyous for me.

    Baudified.

  2. 2.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 8:14 pm

    Watching camping and cooking videos on YouTube.

  3. 3.

    J. Arthur Crank (fka Jerzy Russian)

    October 9, 2023 at 8:15 pm

    Regarding Henry’s ears:  those images could have been manipulated by someone who was near or at the grassy knoll.   Also, how do we know that is the real Henry?  (Having just come over from a previous thread, am trying my hand at conspiracy theorizing.  How am I doing so far?)

    Also too:  Puppy!

  4. 4.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 8:16 pm

    @J. Arthur Crank (fka Jerzy Russian): Which conspiracy theory thread did I miss?  That will be sure to cheer me up!

  5. 5.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 9, 2023 at 8:17 pm

    Phillies lead the Braves 4-1 heading into the 7th inning, and they lead the best of five series 1-0.

    Go Phils!

  6. 6.

    J. Arthur Crank (fka Jerzy Russian)

    October 9, 2023 at 8:18 pm

    @WaterGirl:   One of the prior threads about the fustercluck in the Middle East.  There was talk about how FDR  knew in advance of the attack (by the Germans) on Pearl Harbor, etc

     

    Edit:  It was Betty C.’s Odds & Ends Open Thread

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 8:20 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Go Phils!

  8. 8.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    I like fall but I hate when the weather turns cold.

  9. 9.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    52 now.  Low of 40 tonight.  Heat turned on for the first time this morning.

  10. 10.

    Miki

    October 9, 2023 at 8:22 pm

    Hanging with the Sleepyhead again. ❤️🐩❤️

  11. 11.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    @Miki: What a cutie!

  12. 12.

    Jay

    October 9, 2023 at 8:27 pm

    Past couple of days have been warm,

    today, rainy and nice fall temps,

    didn’t have to kick any stinkbugs off the balcony, today.

    15 days to Arizona and seeing Bun and Bob, so I have to find some shorts and get a couple more tshirts.

  13. 13.

    pat

    October 9, 2023 at 8:27 pm

    The Germans attacked Pearl Harbor?

  14. 14.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    Halfway watching Phillies-Braves. Maybe prepping for The Irrational on NBC at 10:00. Jesse L. Martin’s new series—behavioral psychologist consults with police. Not a blazing premise, but he was good on Law and Order, and I thought I’d give it a chance. First two episodes sort of okay. Too early to make a decision. Second MLB game and some NFL game available if it doesn’t pan out.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    @pat: Try to keep up! :-)

  16. 16.

    Another Scott

    October 9, 2023 at 8:29 pm

    Just doing a bunch of reading.

    KyivIndependent.com:

    The White House is considering a strategy to bundle Ukraine funding with a forthcoming request for urgent aid to Israel, people familiar with the discussions told the Washington Post. This approach aims to enhance the likelihood of Congress approving assistance for Ukraine, despite facing growing opposition from House Republicans.

    No final decisions have been reached regarding the linkage of these requests, as per two senior administration officials who spoke anonymously to protect the privacy of the conversations.

    One of these officials noted that such a move might have strategic merit, as it could place pressure on the far-right faction, which vehemently opposes increased Ukraine aid but is firmly in favor of supporting Israel.

    Key figures within the Biden administration have communicated with leaders in both the House and Senate, as well as members of influential committees, revealing that the White House intends to seek congressional approval for additional military aid to Israel.

    […]

    In a sane Congress, it would make all kinds of sense to bundle them together.

    I expect another substantial package of aid for Ukraine – they voted 311-117 for $300M for Ukraine on September 28 – but who knows how long it will take to get it through the House given that the GQP leadership continues to make itself captive of a handful of crazies…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  17. 17.

    Math Guy

    October 9, 2023 at 8:29 pm

    Grading papers. My retirement was a short-lived affair.

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 8:29 pm

    @Steeplejack: I liked him on Law & Order, but I LOVED him as the dad (and police chief) on Flash.

    Are there any other (possibly) good shows this fall?

  19. 19.

    J. Arthur Crank (fka Jerzy Russian)

    October 9, 2023 at 8:30 pm

    @pat:   I wasn’t being serious when I wrote that, of course.  However, I think some people actually believe that.  I am on my phone now and can’t do a thorough search of the internet now.  Perhaps others who are even more aware on all internet traditions can chime in?

  20. 20.

    pat

    October 9, 2023 at 8:30 pm

    Ah, OK.  Looks like I missed something…??

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 8:31 pm

    @Another Scott: I’ve been saying this since the day of the attack.  It makes perfect sense, and it puts the rabid-Rs in the House in a bind.  Win-win!

  22. 22.

    Alison Rose

    October 9, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    Two days ago it was in the mid 90s. Today the high was 66. Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

    Also, seeing people simping in Facebook comments for a murderous rapist monster who’s been dead for over 500 years really makes a bitch feel better about her own thirst objects.

  23. 23.

    schrodingers_cat

    October 9, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    Listening to Manjusha Patil singing Abeer gulal udhlit rang, written by the saint poet Chokha Mela in the 14th century, who belonged to the Mahar caste, an untouchable caste in Maharashtra and was not able to even enter the temple.

    The Bhakti movement was influenced by Sufi elements and preached and believed in universalist principles like equality for regardless of caste and gender . It was and is a major cultural force in Maharashtra

  24. 24.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    It’s 54° here in NoVA, going to 44° overnight. Windows closed a couple of days ago but heat not turned on yet. Supposed to get a bit warmer this week, so I’m holding out. Thermostat has the inside temp at 67°. Bearable, but the heat might be coming on soon.

  25. 25.

    Another Scott

    October 9, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    @pat: @WaterGirl: @J. Arthur Crank (fka Jerzy Russian):

    youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

    You’re welcome!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  26. 26.

    raven

    October 9, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    Go Bravos, getting close!!

  27. 27.

    Alison Rose

    October 9, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    @Steeplejack: I wish Jerry Orbach were still alive so he could guest star because Briscoe + Green 4 LIFE.

  28. 28.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    @Miki:

    That’s a nice plushie. Where’s the dog?

  29. 29.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 9, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    @Steeplejack: We’re trying “Irrational” too. It seems okay so far. I was just thinking today about how he showed that people could be convinced they remembered things that never happened. My brother seems to have memories of our childhood that I don’t. Maybe he’s right but maybe not. And a couple of days ago a friend told me she did something during the pandemic when I know she didn’t because I was there. At least, I think I remember I was.

  30. 30.

    pat

    October 9, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    I am watching msnbc about the war in Israel and wow this is going to be terrible.  And it will take attention away from Ukraine.  Too bad Ukraine wasn’t already in NATO, you can just imagine the response….

  31. 31.

    Baud

    October 9, 2023 at 8:36 pm

    @pat:

    It’ll definitely be terrible.  I’m still not certain the active fighting will go on as long as Ukraine has.

  32. 32.

    Scout211

    October 9, 2023 at 8:36 pm

    I’m sorry you are getting a freeze tonight in the “middle of everything,” WaterGirl.  I am loving the cooler weather here in NorCal today.  Yesterday the high was 95, but today it was only 71.  I think maybe fall has finally arrived.  Yay!

  33. 33.

    Narya

    October 9, 2023 at 8:37 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: not any more.

    @pat: let him go; he’s on a roll

  34. 34.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 8:37 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I haven’t seen anything that piqued my interest, but I haven’t looked hard. I’m starting to whittle away at my streaming backlog.

    Which reminds me: if you have Hulu you might like Cardinal. Cops hunt serial killer in snowy Canada. I’ve watched the first two episodes, and it’s pretty good. Might be treadmill material.

  35. 35.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 8:41 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Yeah, Briscoe and Green were the best cop team.

    I must say that I consider Criminal Intent the crown jewel of the franchise, and Goren and Eames are a great team too.

  36. 36.

    West of the Rockies

    October 9, 2023 at 8:41 pm

    I wish the news out of Israel was clearer.  What is Israel bombing?  I assume it’s not just indiscriminate rockets lobbed onto random buildings.  How many are dead on both sides?  I know it’s early in the conflict, but there’s sure not much known yet.

  37. 37.

    raven

    October 9, 2023 at 8:42 pm

    @West of the Rockies: It’s all going to be wrong anyway.

  38. 38.

    Dan B

    October 9, 2023 at 8:44 pm

    Surfing the web with a pretty grey kitty asleep on the back of the chair like my parrot.  It was drizzly out and mid 60’s so a mild evening and lights on at 3:30PM the better to see to pay bills.  Soon the orange marinated lamb shanks go in the pot with wine and vegetable stock.  The Laceleaf Maple is brilliant orange and the Oxydendron is red.

  39. 39.

    Rachel Bakes

    October 9, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    Back from a long weekend/mini vacation In Philadelphia. Younger child decided to wake for the day at 2:15 am, so one parent or the other has been on control-lest he blare the computer during quiet hours in our VRBO.  Still a fun weekend at the Please Touch Museum (Dinosaur Train exhibit), Philadelphia Zoo, and a quick prelim trip to Valley Forge with our Rev War history fan.
    I’m tired and going to bed.

  40. 40.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    @Steeplejack: No Hulu.

  41. 41.

    Alison Rose

    October 9, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    Some total pieces of shit vandalized a pumpkin patch and tried to steal a tractor in the South Bay.

    The security guard on the scene encountered the alleged vandals, Estrada said, who had driven the tractor that typically pulls the patch’s “cow train” ride through the flower fields and the fences and into the street.

    The security guard reportedly confronted the driver when the tractor stalled on the road, and the driver ran away.

    Staff members showed up to repair the pumpkin patches after midnight and worked until about 3:30 a.m. to prepare for six class field trips expected to arrive that morning, Estrada said.

    “There’s no way we could have canceled or shut the park down because the schools and kids have been planning this all year,” he said.

    The vandals also knocked over several port-a-potties and custom-made scarecrows, smashed and threw pumpkins, tore down the park’s fencing and damaged some structures, including a dinosaur, he said.

    They said it’s at least $3k in damage, and the park’s engineer had spent all day for months setting everything up. No leads yet on who these assholes were, but if they get found, I hope they pillory them in front of the pumpkin patch and let visiting children throw pumpkin guts at their faces.

  42. 42.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 8:47 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    “Okay so far” is about right. Willing to see if it tightens up. The main thing that bugs me a little is the clunky (so far) subtext about his pining for his ex-wife (girlfriend?).

  43. 43.

    Alison Rose

    October 9, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    @Steeplejack: I liked Criminal Intent too, and I appreciated that they paired someone like Eames with Goren, because she often seemed like a source of, like…safety for him? When he would have those times where he went beyond his usual weirdness and seemed to be struggling with his demons, she knew how to help him through that.

  44. 44.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    @Miki: Exactly how floppy are those ears? 😁🐶🥰

  45. 45.

    Another Scott

    October 9, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    @West of the Rockies: APNews.com:

    Around 900 people, including 73 soldiers, already have been killed in Israel, according to media. In Gaza, more than 680 people have been killed, according to authorities there; Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them. Thousands have been wounded on both sides.

    I think I saw somewhere that real the Israeli numbers are much larger – they’re no-longer updating the count.

    :-(

    HTH a little.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  46. 46.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 9, 2023 at 8:49 pm

    @Steeplejack: I think that’s his ex-wife. I assume that story line will get fleshed out. I hope.

  47. 47.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 9, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    @pat: ​Forget about it, he’s on a roll.

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 8:51 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Two days ago it was in the mid 90s. Today the high was 66. Everything is totally normal and fine!!! 

    Open them windows!

  49. 49.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 9, 2023 at 8:51 pm

    @West of the Rockies: The fog of war is everywhere.  Israel’s not going to announce targets even though Hamas probably knows what they are.

  50. 50.

    Alison Rose

    October 9, 2023 at 8:53 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: See, I am a frail little husk, and 66 degrees is cold for me. But I also melt at even low heat. If I were a magical empress controlling the universe, the temperature would never dip below 70 and never rise above 80.

  51. 51.

    pat

    October 9, 2023 at 8:54 pm

    I should have added, What? Pearl Harbor bombed again???

    msnbc now going on about the tupperville blocking all those important positions, and the repukes blocking ambassadors….

  52. 52.

    bbleh

    October 9, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    I’m actually glad it’s not a week ago.  That full moon was cray-zee.  All this on top of that, I dunno…

  53. 53.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 9, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    @Alison Rose: I have noted that my mother has a comfort zone of 70-72 degrees.  She does not deny it.

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    October 9, 2023 at 8:57 pm

    Several YouTube international English language sources of reporting on the current Middle East situation (any of which, generally speaking, have thus far been proving more informative than current major U.S. outlets):

    Deutsche Welle News
    CBC News
    Al Jazeera English
    France 24
    9 News Australia

  55. 55.

    eclare

    October 9, 2023 at 8:58 pm

    Henry is adorable!  I am having a blah night too.  I sent this clip to a friend of mine, mood.

    google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TDIvKchOL0szYPRSS81JzMxLVchUz8lRSM9XyExTyFRIyc9TL1HISCxLVSjJVyh…

  56. 56.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 8:58 pm

    @Steeplejack: I rent, so I don’t control our thermostat.  Oh, and clang clang clang go the steam radiators now!  Woo hoo!

  57. 57.

    Alison Rose

    October 9, 2023 at 8:58 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: That makes sense because while I assume she and I are far apart in age, health-wise I’m like her little sister.

  58. 58.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    All right! Braves take the lead in the eighth.

  59. 59.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 9, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    Well, that game changed.

  60. 60.

    raven

    October 9, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    GO BRAVES!!

  61. 61.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 9, 2023 at 9:02 pm

    @Alison Rose: She is another tiny person.  And she’ll be 82 next Wednesday.

  62. 62.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 9:02 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wow, that’s even worse than me!  (No disrespect for your mom!)

  63. 63.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 9:02 pm

    @Rachel Bakes:

    Still a fun weekend at the Please Touch Museum (Dinosaur Train exhibit) 

    Oh yes!  🎶 DINOSAUR TRAIN, DINOSAUR TRAIN 🎶

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 9:03 pm

    @bbleh: Was that when everyone so many people on BJ were cranky and argumentative for a couple of days?

  65. 65.

    Mousebumples

    October 9, 2023 at 9:03 pm

    I’m watching the Packers on MNF right now.

    If I’ve needed a spark of happy this week, I’m been pulling up the women’s gymnastics world championships from this weekend.

    But ❤️ Simone Biles. And an all Black podium for the women’s All Around for the first time, which I thought was awesome.

    Biles is also married to a Green Bay Packer, and she’s just looked genuinely happy recently. I’m glad to see she’s doing well – and kicking ass in the gymnastics world, if that’s what she wants to do.

  66. 66.

    Elizabelle

    October 9, 2023 at 9:03 pm

    @NotMax:  Thank you for the international sources.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 9:04 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I grew up with steam radiators!

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 9, 2023 at 9:04 pm

    @Mousebumples: Speaking of Biles and the Packers, I want to see more from her husband.

  69. 69.

    Jay

    October 9, 2023 at 9:04 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    It’s funny. We have electric baseboard heaters. In 5 years, never turned them on. No AC, just a fan. I havn’t worn socks or shoes since June.

  70. 70.

    bbleh

    October 9, 2023 at 9:07 pm

    @WaterGirl: and not just on BJ.  Our aides, the visiting nurses, lots of people (the best people, really, believe me) were saying people were kinda unhinged for about 4-5 days.  Ain’t no myth.

  71. 71.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 9:07 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Interesting about memories. One of the side effects of the pandemic isolation was that, with not much content in my current life, I fell into a habit of rumination (a lot of it negative) about past times and past events. The usual: missed opportunities, mistakes, etc. When I realized I was doing it I started to consider how my memories of what happened, say, 40 years ago are not necessarily a reliable record of what actually did happen. And that, for better or worse, all that my memories can do is inform my feelings and actions today. So why hang onto the ones that are unhelpful? They can still be present, but they don’t need to have a prime position.

  72. 72.

    Dan B

    October 9, 2023 at 9:09 pm

    @Mousebumples: In addition to Biles there’s the 19 year old black guy who got Bronze is amazing, good looking, and has great charisma.  Not long ago there were no people of color in gymnastics.  Wahoo!

  73. 73.

    West of the Rockies

    October 9, 2023 at 9:11 pm

    @Another Scott:

    Thanks, Scott.   Grim news…

  74. 74.

    Mousebumples

    October 9, 2023 at 9:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Speaking of Biles and the Packers, I want to see more from her husband.

    Yes, after that touchdown, we need more defense!

    @Dan B: And the 19 year old black guy who got Bronze is amazing, good looking, and has great charisma. Not long ago there were no people of color in gymnastics. Wahoo!

    Absolutely! Another great story. He fell on the high bar, his last event and figured he’d get 4th and was overheard on audio saying, “This is just part of my journey.” And then the guy who went after him *also fell*… So he still got Bronze!

    I wonder if Biles being so amazing is making an impact and getting Black athletes to pursue gymnastics. 10 years into her career, it feels too fast, maybe? But I don’t want to discount how much representation matters either.

  75. 75.

    steppy

    October 9, 2023 at 9:13 pm

    Come on Phils!

  76. 76.

    Geminid

    October 9, 2023 at 9:13 pm

     

     

    @NotMax: London-based Middle East Eye also has good reporting.

    Al Jazeera may be especially interesting in that it reflects to some extent the views of the Qatari government, or at least will not contradict them. The Qataris mediated the ceasefire that ended the 11-day Gaza war in May of 2021, and will probably play a key role in ending this one. Egypt and Turkiye likely be involved on the diplomatic front as well.

  77. 77.

    Another Scott

    October 9, 2023 at 9:13 pm

    @West of the Rockies: Reuters has a story with maps and more about Hamas’ rockets, some videos, etc.

    :-(

    HTH a little.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  78. 78.

    NotMax

    October 9, 2023 at 9:14 pm

    @WaterGirl

    Obligatory.
    ;)

  79. 79.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    October 9, 2023 at 9:15 pm

    From the Dept. of Rearranging Deck Chairs on the Titanic:

    Will Hurd drops out of 2024 presidential race and endorses Nikki Haley

    axios.com/2023/10/09/will-hurd-suspends-2024-presidential-race

     

    Happy Birthday John Lennon

    New York City

    youtube.com/watch?v=GlwuwEx2zLA

    Yer Blues

    youtube.com/watch?v=JeFwaWFTGYU

  80. 80.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Sort of similar to Lucy Liu’s Watson on Elementary, Eames went from being eccentric genius Goren’s handmaiden in the early episodes to full and equal partner—not just helping him with his demons but bringing skills to the partnership that he just didn’t have.

  81. 81.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    Man, scorching double-play finish to the Phillies-Braves game!

  82. 82.

    raven

    October 9, 2023 at 9:18 pm

    Suck on that Phillies!!!

  83. 83.

    Hoppie

    October 9, 2023 at 9:18 pm

    @pat: Snark, or your popular culture-fu is challenged?  I’m truly curious.

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    @NotMax: I had never seen that!

  85. 85.

    Barbara

    October 9, 2023 at 9:20 pm

    @Mousebumples: Betty Okino, Dominique Dawes, Gabby Douglas and Dianne Durham all preceded Simone Biles as great gymnasts — Douglas is the first African American woman to win a gold all around medal (2012).

  86. 86.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 9:20 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Me, too. They’re just pounding it a little hard in the early going. Even his sister brings it up all the time.

  87. 87.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 9, 2023 at 9:21 pm

    I got the chapter 12 outline started.  In this chapter the kids go to the ruins of Santa Barbara to scout the location of a new dungeon so older adventurers can clear it.

  88. 88.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 9, 2023 at 9:22 pm

    @Alison Rose: I see.  So the crazy heat didn’t roast the house?

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    Rebel’s Dad

    October 9, 2023 at 9:24 pm

    I’m trying to do homework. I have two chapter summaries I need to submit in the class discussion before midnight, and I haven’t even read the chapters. IDK why this semester is off to such a rough start.

    I’ve been in a funk for the past week, and I’m trying to keep it from becoming a major depressive episode. I’m discouraged because I don’t have a job right now. The three degenerative discs in my back are so bad now that I can’t work a shift in a restaurant anymore without being unable to get out of bed for the next two days. I try to search for even part-time jobs, and it’s so overwhelming that I shut down.

    At least summer is over; the weather is colder, and the days are getting shorter. This is my time of year. Apologies to all the heat lovers out there.

  90. 90.

    zhena gogolia

    October 9, 2023 at 9:24 pm

    @Hoppie: Not everyone has seen Animal House.

  91. 91.

    pat

    October 9, 2023 at 9:25 pm

    @Hoppie:

    So I’m scanning comments on BJ and someone says something about the Germans attacking Pearl Harbor and rather than going with  What?  Pearl Harbor bombed again??  I just quietly asked…

    So snark, I guess.

  92. 92.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 9:26 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Ah, you’re in one of those old-school cities—Chicago, right? My building in NoVA has all the modern amenities of circa 1960, although my apartment’s HVAC system was retrofitted later, I think. It works well, but every autumn when I fire up the heat after 6-7 months I have a fleeting nightmare about “Area man killed in furnace blast.”

  93. 93.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 9, 2023 at 9:27 pm

    @Rebel’s Dad:

    Job hunting is one of the most depressing processes I have ever had to face – repeatedly.  Stay strong.  If you can’t hope, then just keep putting one foot in front of the other.  Life’s pendulum will swing back when you least expect it.

  94. 94.

    Josie

    October 9, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    To celebrate my 80th birthday, my son is treating me to a two day study of hawks in the coastal area near Houston. We will attend a class on identifying the various types on Saturday and Join the professor for a count of the various hawks at a prime viewing spot near the water. I am so pumped to do this and am studying madly on all the distinguishing characteristics. Today my subject is sharp shinned hawks vs. cooper’s hawks; it’s really difficult, but I’m determined to learn.

  95. 95.

    Hoppie

    October 9, 2023 at 9:30 pm

    @pat: My popular culture-fu is pretty bad, especially for anything since the eighties, so I was curious.  Well done!

  96. 96.

    Anyway

    October 9, 2023 at 9:30 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    :-(

  97. 97.

    MisterDancer

    October 9, 2023 at 9:30 pm

    @Steeplejack: in fairness to her Watson on ELEMENTARY, she was always someone of importance to that version of Sherlock on the show. The partnership evolved from her being hired to be his live-in sober companion, building an unexpected emotional and professional bond along the way.

  98. 98.

    Albatrossity

    October 9, 2023 at 9:33 pm

    Chilled here in Kansas as well. Our friends who have a community garden plot harvested all their peppers, and gifted us a metric shit-ton of those. Roasted pepper futures here!

    And sparrows are back, including this gorgeous LeConte’s Sparrow.

  99. 99.

    MisterDancer

    October 9, 2023 at 9:33 pm

    As far as me personally — it’s been a rough few weeks. The situation with my Dad is a struggle, work is…weird, and it’s taken 3 days for me to recover from the COVID Vax, days I was hoping to get things done.

    My side project is in the gutter and I don’t know when I’ll get it kickstarted again, sadly. Ugh.

  100. 100.

    hueyplong

    October 9, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    @pat: Earlier today someone recycled the old Republican bullshit about FDR knowing about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance and one response to it was the Animal House line. That’s all.

  101. 101.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    @MisterDancer: Not a happy week!

  102. 102.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 9:37 pm

    @MisterDancer:

    I get that, but in the first season her relationship to Holmes mostly involved putting up with his tantrums and being a stand-in for the audience to marvel at his genius. It took a while for the partnership to develop.

  103. 103.

    WaterGirl

    October 9, 2023 at 9:38 pm

    @Rebel’s Dad: I can see that that would be really discouraging.  Frankensteinbeck’s comment at #93 seems pretty wise.  I can’t do better than that except to commiserate.

  104. 104.

    pat

    October 9, 2023 at 9:41 pm

    @hueyplong:

    I never believed that it was actually something that was believed, but I didn’t know anything about the Animal House stuff.   Let’s call it snark and let it go.

    Watching Rachel Maddow about the mess in Israel.

  105. 105.

    hueyplong

    October 9, 2023 at 9:44 pm

    I should have said “noted” instead of “recycled.” My bad. Being old enough to remember it being seriously asserted (the second time) makes me a little short-fused on the topic.

  106. 106.

    jackmac

    October 9, 2023 at 9:45 pm

    Frost alert overnight in my fringe Chicago area town. If so, that will likely be the end to my modest efforts at a flower garden, my first in 32 years in the house. It was a worthwhile try. I learned what flowers worked well and what didn’t, delighted as hummingbirds sampled our feeder and plants, watched how neighbors assembled their gardens and started to strategize what I might do next spring. I have a corner cul-de-sac lot with plenty of room to try things. One thing is certain, ample parts of next year’s gardens will be devoted to space for pollinators.

  107. 107.

    SuzieC

    October 9, 2023 at 9:46 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I like it so far.  Will not be able to watch tonight’s episode because Son is watching Victor W’s debut with the Spurs.

     

    Unhappy for all of the reasons you have all said so far but happy because I’m going on a foodie tour of Tuscany next week.

  108. 108.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    October 9, 2023 at 9:47 pm

    i’m just having some real difficult feelings about this whole invasion of israel.

    i have a bunch of things i need to do but can’t focus. i think i’m gonna play some elden ring or titanfall 2 for a bit, see if i can clear my head.

    (someone at respawn fixed all the servers and now my favorite, seven year old game works perfectly again!)

  109. 109.

    Dan B

    October 9, 2023 at 9:49 pm

    @SuzieC: If you can get over the Appenines to Bologna it is the #1. food city in Italy.  It can be cool and rainy especially compared to south of the Appenines.

    And have fun however it works out!

  110. 110.

    Mousebumples

    October 9, 2023 at 9:50 pm

    @Barbara: Betty Okino, Dominique Dawes, Gabby Douglas and Dianne Durham all preceded Simone Biles as great gymnasts — Douglas is the first African American woman to win a gold all around medal (2012).

    Whoops, you’re right. Thanks.

  111. 111.

    Geminid

    October 9, 2023 at 9:51 pm

    There actually were rumors at the time that some of the pilots attacking Pearl Harbor were German. None were of course, but many Americans thought the Japanese were inferior people and did not want to believe they could execute such a devastating attack on their own.

  112. 112.

    Another Scott

    October 9, 2023 at 9:51 pm

    @strange visitor (from another planet): Good to see your ‘nym.  Post more often.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  113. 113.

    hueyplong

    October 9, 2023 at 9:54 pm

    @Geminid: Within a couple of weeks we had totally flipped on the level of threat posed by the Japanese, panicking to the point of moving the Rose Bowl to Duke’s campus in North Carolina.

  114. 114.

    CarolPW

    October 9, 2023 at 9:55 pm

    <
    @Josie: ​
     It is not just difficult, for a novice it is pretty much impossible – but such fun watching and messing it up! They are magnificent whatever their species, and what a good son!

  115. 115.

    Geminid

    October 9, 2023 at 9:55 pm

    @jackmac: Have you tried growing Calendula? That’s a nice reliable flower. The Romans named it Calendula because it bloomed around the calender there. They grow about 15″ tall and are good for pots ss well as the ground.

  116. 116.

    Scout211

    October 9, 2023 at 10:00 pm

    We have a solar eclipse coming this Saturday morning. Most of the western states will see an 80% eclipse and there is a tiny band that will see an annular eclipse (ring of fire).  Here is a map with the percentage of the view from your area.  The next one will be in 2039.

  117. 117.

    Alison Rose

    October 9, 2023 at 10:01 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Thankfully I have A/C!

  118. 118.

    SuzieC

    October 9, 2023 at 10:06 pm

    @Dan B: On a tight scheduled tour so not able to, but thanks!!

  119. 119.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 10:06 pm

    @pat:

    “Pearl Harbor in Animal House“ reference.

  120. 120.

    Kayla Rudbek

    October 9, 2023 at 10:10 pm

    @Rebel’s Dad: job hunting is tough; I send you sympathy and wish you good luck.

  121. 121.

    Dan B

    October 9, 2023 at 10:11 pm

    @SuzieC: Pics for On the Road!

  122. 122.

    Timill

    October 9, 2023 at 10:12 pm

    Down the pub for trivia night. Four rounds of four questions each, plus a Final Jeopardy question. Tonight, nobody got it right, so the two teams who hadn’t gone all in won money, and everybody else was tied for 3rd… Somebody who wasn’t us got the tiebreaker, however.

  123. 123.

    jimmiraybob

    October 9, 2023 at 10:12 pm

    Someone should nominate Liz Cheney for Speaker.

    That is all.

  124. 124.

    SuzieC

    October 9, 2023 at 10:14 pm

    @Dan B: Someone will have to teach me how to embed pics.  I have tried but no dice.  Old and non tech savvy here.

  125. 125.

    Kayla Rudbek

    October 9, 2023 at 10:16 pm

    @Steeplejack: also in Northern Virginia and I turned on the space heater in the living room fireplace just now (it has both a heating element and a lighted element that looks like logs on fire.) Our heat is set at 67 degrees for the winter so we will probably get another blanket out tonight.

  126. 126.

    Jay

    October 9, 2023 at 10:18 pm

    @SuzieC:

    Only Front Pagers can embed picks and tweets.

    The rest of us can quote, or link.

  127. 127.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    October 9, 2023 at 10:24 pm

    @Another Scott:  thanks. will try to, it’s just usually very late when i catch up to all the threads.

  128. 128.

    Scout211

    October 9, 2023 at 10:25 pm

    @SuzieC:  Here  is the form used for On the Road submissions.

    WaterGirl will post the completed submission in the OTR thread.

    For the Garden Chat, send an email to Ann Laurie with your photos and information attached. Front pagers emails are listed in  “contact us” link at the top of the page.

  129. 129.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 10:29 pm

    @SuzieC:

    You can’t embed photos directly. Send an “On the Road” post to Anne Laurie from this page.

  130. 130.

    Steeplejack

    October 9, 2023 at 10:36 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek:

    My usual winter setting is 70°, a holdover from when I wanted the small housecat to keep warm, and also because my usual loungewear is T-shirt and shorts. I do like the shoulder seasons when the HVAC is sleeping, neither heating nor cooling. And I can have the windows open.

  131. 131.

    frosty

    October 9, 2023 at 10:40 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I loved the steam heat in our Baltimore rowhouse. “Clang! Pshhhhhhhhtt.” Just the sound made you feel warmer.​
    The place before that, we rented a third floor in a cut-up rowhouse. There was one thermostat on the first floor, controlled by two older women. They kept it cranked up. We had our windows open in the winter!​​​​

  132. 132.

    Shalimar

    October 9, 2023 at 10:49 pm

    Good rotating tag candidate from Seth Meyers’ monologue tonight:  “Donald Trump:  The only one who can defeat Mongo”

  133. 133.

    dnfree

    October 9, 2023 at 10:49 pm

    Has anyone posted this column on atheism yet?  (Gift link)

    wapo.st/3ZOmebR

  134. 134.

    dnfree

    October 9, 2023 at 10:52 pm

    @frosty: We lived in a Chicago three-flat with steam heat in the 1970s, also with the only thermostat on the first floor.  We were freezing on the third floor and went down to ask the tenants to turn the heat up.  They opened the door in their underclothes, drenched with sweat.

  135. 135.

    frosty

    October 9, 2023 at 10:52 pm

    @Josie: … Today my subject is sharp shinned hawks vs. cooper’s hawks…

    Ooh, I just learned this ten days ago, at least when they’re in the air. If they look like a T they’re sharpies (wings forward, small head). If they look like a t they’re Cooper’s (longer neck). Have fun!

  136. 136.

    StringOnAStick

    October 9, 2023 at 10:55 pm

    @Albatrossity: That is a gorgeous sparrow, and one I’ve never heard of before.

    We’re right in the totality path for the eclipse but it’s predicted to be quite cloudy.  I hope it clears.

    We’re on phase two of the kitchen remodel: half way through new flooring; only 4 more phases (the induction range rocks!). I have to cut out some damaged drywall where the old tile was removed and then I can install the faucet, but I can’t do that until the flooring guys are done.  Microwave was successfully installed today by my husband, who hates any project that takes more than 5 minutes but he took this on like a bulldog, I think because he wants to able to heat up his coffee.

  137. 137.

    gwangung

    October 9, 2023 at 10:56 pm

    Got through another day of classes with my students….lively discussion, discussing a play they read and one most of them saw, Cambodian Rock Band (a show that will tear your heart out while you laugh your ass off). Kinda wiped out after 90 minutes of that (too bad it was a two hour class).

    On top of that, I’m producing a new show, about aswangs (Filipino vampires). Here’s our 2nd teaser video.

    All I can manage to do is cram my face with potato chips, I’m so tired.

  138. 138.

    AlaskaReader

    October 9, 2023 at 11:04 pm

    @NotMax: What’s the consensus on Juan Cole’s site?

  139. 139.

    Shalimar

    October 9, 2023 at 11:07 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: My cousin was telling me the other day about all the fun times we had as a group when we were children.  She is 7 years younger than me and 5 years younger than my sister.   I have a few memories from when she was under 10, but mostly my parents dropped my sister off with our grandparents when she was there and I was not involved at all.  She remembers a lot of things I am pretty sure were not with me there.

  140. 140.

    Hoppie

    October 9, 2023 at 11:07 pm

    @Dan B: Lived in Bologna a year and a half, it completely informed my culinary life.  I make a really mean (ie authentic) lasagna.  Also ragu (of course necessary for real lasagna).  Fond memories of Bologna La Grassa!

  141. 141.

    Mel

    October 9, 2023 at 11:09 pm

    Beautiful little Henry! He has the most adorable, sweet expressions.

  142. 142.

    Dan B

    October 9, 2023 at 11:09 pm

    @SuzieC: The OTR submission form let’s you post pictures.  And you can attach them to an email and send them to Anne Laurie or Watergirl

    On Mobile it’s below the Comment Box, under Calling All Jackals – Submit Pictres to 9n the Road.  On a computer it would be in the sidebar.

  143. 143.

    Shalimar

    October 9, 2023 at 11:09 pm

    @AlaskaReader: 20 years ago Juan Cole was the more prominent Cole over John.  He was still a good Middle East source 15 years ago.  I have no clue after that. I hope NotMax or someone else does.

  144. 144.

    Dan B

    October 9, 2023 at 11:21 pm

    @Hoppie:  I had some great meals in Bologna including a thin crust pizza the proprietor brought out before we ordered.  It was crust, sauce, and olive oil.  It had amazing complex and rich flavor.  Three ingredients!  The flavor is embedded in my memory thirty years later.

  145. 145.

    AlaskaReader

    October 9, 2023 at 11:35 pm

    @Shalimar: Thanks. Over the years I’ve read good takes and bad takes but don’t know enough to know which to put any credence in.

    I’ve had him bookmarked for a really long time and check the site periodically. I’ve never noticed any seeming misinformation.

  146. 146.

    Jackie

    October 9, 2023 at 11:38 pm

    Henry looks adorably content as can be!🥰

  147. 147.

    Hoppie

    October 9, 2023 at 11:45 pm

    @Dan B: Ah, dead thread, but I ate very well in Bologna at student budget prices.  Also learned a lot.  French haute came out of northern Italian cooking via Catherine de Medici.

  148. 148.

    Rebel’s Dad

    October 10, 2023 at 12:44 am

    @Josie: That sounds fun! I know you’ll enjoy it.

    On a related note, Armand Bayou Nature Preserve is near NASA and is a hidden gem. They even have bison there, which was the first time I ever saw them. They are YUGE.

     

    ETA Happy birthday!

  149. 149.

    Rebel’s Dad

    October 10, 2023 at 12:45 am

    @WaterGirl: Thanks to both of you.

  150. 150.

    prostratedragon

    October 10, 2023 at 12:50 am

    Henry! Long time no see.

  151. 151.

    NotMax

    October 10, 2023 at 12:52 am

    @Shalimar

    It’s a regular stop on my weekday news whiparound. Good, solid stuff on climate change. Also on providing historical examples. On the Middle East and Arab world, has his own slant and blind spots (which one can suss out and take in context if reading it anywhere near frequently). But for breaking stories such as what’s going on right now would not consider it a primary choice.

  152. 152.

    sab

    October 10, 2023 at 3:47 am

    @Shalimar: He is still around, posting to Inforned Comment.

  153. 153.

    WaterGirl

    October 10, 2023 at 8:59 am

    @jackmac: Welcome to the gardener’s pack!

    You know what they say… the best time to plant an oak tree is a hundred years ago; the next best time is today.

  154. 154.

    WaterGirl

    October 10, 2023 at 9:07 am

    @SuzieC: Hi SuzieC,

    Only front-pagers can embed pics in comments.  But you can do a whole post of your own using the form in the sidebar.  But I’ll also copy it here.

    Submit Photos to On the Road

    You can have up to 10 photos per submission.

    edot: I see that at least 5 people answered you last night before I got back here this morning! And I see that you have found the form!

  155. 155.

    jackmac

    October 10, 2023 at 1:42 pm

    @WaterGirl: The first tree I planted was a skinny sycamore. Thirty-three years later, it’s a majestic tree and I feel lucky to have seen it grow and dominate my yard.

  156. 156.

    jackmac

    October 10, 2023 at 1:43 pm

    @Geminid:

    Thanks. I will check them out for the spring.

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