Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“Cheese and Kraken paired together for the appetizer trial.”

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

Elections aren’t won by handwringing, cowering, and/or bashing your own candidates.

‘Museums aren’t America’s attic for its racist shit.’

Can we lighten up on the doomsday scenarios?

“I never thought they’d lock HIM up,” sobbed a distraught member of the Lock Her Up Party.

We’re not going back!

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Every one of the “Roberts Six” lied to get on the court.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

He really is that stupid.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

After dobbs, women are no longer free.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Ron DeSantis, the grand wizard, oops, governor of FL.

Conservatism: there are people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about it’s history.”

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    This country’s corporate “leaders” are as stupid as German industrialists were in 1932.

  2. 2.

    hrprogressive

    It is happening here, and it will only get worse if it is not stopped now.

    Clock’s ticking.

  3. 3.

    Daoud bin Daoud

    The house of cards we call a political system is going to fall, and fall soon. I pray the cards crush the Nazis beneath them, and not the innocent. If the Orange Obscenity and his minions take power, millions will end up dying. (Not that Der Drumpfenführer will actually win the vote – they’re not counting on voters.)

  4. 4.

    MattF

    I’ve heard what Trippi says— that TFG kept a copy of Hitler’s speeches under his pillow. MSM seems to be wrinkling its brow, not really clear about what’s going on.

  5. 5.

    SuzieC

    It seems significant that Forbes is running that headline.  Don’t our media overlords read Forbes?

  7. 7.

    Dan B

    It seems that a lot of people are upset about high grocery and gas prices.  Since the average distance food is shipped is said to be 1,500 miles the gas prices have a lot of impact.  The big oil companies had their highest profits on record.  Would TIFG force them to lower their prices?  But many voters do not understand how the economy works especially vulture capitalism.  Also what happens to corporate profits if all brown people were deported?

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    Trump’s mouthpiece:

    Steven Cheung, a Trump campaign spokesman, told The Post “those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”

    Notice how he both says that this is a ridiculous assertion and that those making it will be crushed like bugs, thereby …proving the assertion.

  9. 9.

    H.E.Wolf

    These are all very good points; and eliminationist rhetoric is always, always a sign that a group or an individual is very dangerous.

    It’s also important for white folks to remember that it has happened here… as Native Americans, Black Americans, and Japanese Americans (among others) can attest.

    It is up to us, singly and collectively, to take the Nelle path of building community in whatever ways are most appropriate for us.

    I’d say that Balloon Juice, when we’re on our game, is one example of that. :)

  10. 10.

    p.a.

    Dear media: when they show you who they are, believe them.

     

    Dear media: I know for a fact you are not below the fold on their hit list.  (Pointing this out since you only seem to call the fascists fascists when you are the target.)

  11. 11.

    Tony G

    @Villago Delenda Est: Rich people tend to believe that they have superior intellect and can therefore control the monsters that they create.  Actually, though, the German plutocrats made out quite well under Hitler — the Jewish slave labor, for example, was a nice benefit for them — until, that is, around 1943 when Germany really started to lose the war.  Many of the plutocrats, however, were nicely whitewashed and were back in power soon after the war ended.  All in all, many of them did very well after backing Hitler.

  13. 13.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    I’d dearly love to have some AV person cut TFG’s mike and continue with audio from Hitler finishing up a speech, including a rousing series of “Seig Heil” cries, just to see if his followers notice, of if they join in. It’d make for interesting TV, folks.

  15. 15.

    BR

    @dmsilev: ​
    Credit where credit is due. They reported it accurately. People should click the link so they know that the story matters to folks.

  17. 17.

    moonbat

    A part of the blame for this willful blindness to this rhetoric is the stupid “American exceptionalism” embraced under Reagan and his heirs. This unfounded belief in the inerrant goodness of whatever the US does led to this false sense of moral security.
    “No, WE could never do Nazi things because the US is exceptional!”
    I realize why so many politicians embraced it or were pressured to because it became a sort of litmus test for loyalty to the nation, especially when Obama began running for president. But on the whole it is a poisonous doctrine.
    Of course we can screw up and we DO. The role of good governance is to make sure we don’t.​

  18. 18.

    John Revolta

    Crowds surround loudspeakers hanging from the lampposts
    Listening to the murder mystery
    Meanwhile someone’s hiding in the classroom
    Forging the books of history
    Never mind, there’s a good film showing tonight
    Where they hang everybody who can read and write
    Oh that could never happen here, but then again it might……

    -Elvis Costello, The Invisible Man

    Also…..

    A quick search of the Internets shows estimates of Kid Rock’s fortune from 150 to 250 million dollars lolsob. He earns $35-39 million a year. Gawdhelpus.

  19. 19.

    stinger

    Kyle Griffin on Mastodon says Tim Scott has suspended his campaign. Thank goodness. I hate his ad.

  21. 21.

    Lyrebird

    @p.a.:

    (Pointing this out since you only seem to call the fascists fascists when you are the target.)

    Sometimes not even then.  Tur, for instance, was understandably concerned after she was at the receiving end of his follower’s hate in the press both in or before 2016, but not many other than Maddow really called the behavior out.

  22. 22.

    trollhattan

    Cycling this afternoon and suddenly felt some flying bastard wandering down my chest stinging me serially, while I’m going at a good clip. Ripped my shirt up to shake it out but never saw it, so no idea what 6-legged Republican insect it was. The stings still hurt like hell hours later.

    Fucker.

  23. 23.

    Scout211

    It’s probably been mentioned already, but this whole new turn toward speech that resembles Nazism has Stephen Miller written all over it.  What a horrible, dangerous, disgusting person he is.

    He has plans  for a Trump’s next fascist presidency.

    Former President Trump’s immigration advisor Stephen Miller predicted that a second Trump term would include more strict policies against immigration, calling for a “spectacular migration crackdown.”

    “Any activists who doubt President Trump’s resolve in the slightest are making a drastic error: Trump will unleash the vast arsenal of federal powers to implement the most spectacular migration crackdown,” Miller told The New York Times. “The immigration legal activists won’t know what’s happening.”

    . . .
    The Times reported that in a possible second term, the Trump team plans to double down on those actions, including unprecedented roundups of undocumented immigrants already inside the U.S.

    . . .

    Those roundups would include the construction of massive detainment camps to keep undocumented immigrants and expedited legal hearings, funded by the military budget in order to get around Congressional approval, the Times reported.

    Trump has previously lauded President Eisenhower’s 1954 deportation scheme dubbed “Operation Wetback,” now generally considered as a racist program which indiscriminately targeted Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the U.S., and pledged to base his policies on it.

    The former president and some allies have also endorsed ending the concept of birthright citizenship, which constitutional scholars have argued is unequivocally enshrined in the 14th Amendment.

  24. 24.

    Princess

    I don’t think the Villagers are in any danger of being lined up against the wall. I think they will gladly trim their sails to suit their bosses and report what they want reported. I mean, they do it now.

  25. 25.

    JoyceH

    If the Justice Department isn’t investigating Trump’s Secret Service detail, why not? When we first heard the documents story, it seemed to be about purloined documents kept in an unapproved manner in cardboard boxes in bathrooms, storerooms, offices and stages. Okay. The Secret Service obviously wouldn’t be rooting around in boxes or desk drawers. But now we’re learning that the documents were often strewn about loose out on surfaces with classification markings so blatant that maids and plumbers and carpenters noticed them. So the Secret Service had to have seen them – they HAD to have. They must have known that there was an ongoing, extensive, and high-level compromise of national security — and what did they do about it? Did they report it, document it, ANYTHING? Or has Trump’s entire detail been as compromised as Ornato was?

  27. 27.

    waspuppet

    @dmsilev: The Trumpites whom I run across don’t even try to tell me I’m wrong about anything; they just tell me how sorry I’m going to be when he’s back.

    But calm down, guys; it’s not like he said he was going to ask anyone to leave a restaurant after comping their appetizers. Now THAT’S political violence, as evidenced by the fact that it led the cable news for at least a week.

  28. 28.

    Scout211

    @JoyceH: So far, the secret service agents have been interviewed and appear to be witnesses in the documents case.  Whether they will be charged in the end is another question.

    From June, NBC News:

    About two dozen Secret Service agents have been subpoenaed or have appeared before a federal grand jury in Washington that’s looking into former President Donald Trump’s handling of classified documents, two sources familiar with the matter confirmed Tuesday.

    The sources said prosecutors have interviewed agents assigned to Trump’s security detail at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, about 24 of whom have been asked to testify before the grand jury. All complied, the sources said.

  29. 29.

    Lyrebird

    @Nukular Biskits: ​
    Well just west of you there seems to be an effect! Keep pushing!
    From the Louisiana Advocate, by way of DKos:

    “Johnson was wrong to push an emergency measure that tied aid to our ally Israel to a GOP hobbyhorse, cutting the Internal Revenue Service budget, as some anti-government Republicans want to do. That just adds to the deficit, as it lets more high-income tax cheats defeat the system; for most of us, it just means the IRS can’t hire enough people to answer the darn phone.
    Cut the games. If you promise regular order, let’s see it in action.”​

     

    ETA: I want to thank Anne Laurie once again for wading through stuff I never wanna read to bring us these updates.

  30. 30.

    Chetan Murthy

    @JoyceH:

    Did they report it, document it, ANYTHING?

    Next you’ll be expecting police officers to report their colleagues who commit crimes.  How fair is that?

  34. 34.

    oldster

    For the next 12 months, the biggest problem in the world will be the media’s whitewashing of Trump.

    If they told the truth about him, every day, then voters would turn against him.

    But if they run the same Hillary playbook once again, then he will be elected again.

    And that will lead to catastrophe on every front — domestic and international.

    They think they are playing a game. They still have blood on their hands from 2016.

  37. 37.

    Nukular Biskits

    @trollhattan:

    Back during the halcyon days of my yute, I was riding my motorcycle home from a shift at Wendy’s one summer afternoon.

    A T-storm had passed through, dropping temps, so the ride was very pleasant.  I flipped up the visor on my helmet just in time for something to BZZZZT right into the right side.

    It was a red wasp and that bastard stung me 4 or 5 times in  my right Elvis-style sideburn before I could stop the bike and rip the helmet off.

    Ever since then, my bike has had a windshield or I rode with the visor down.

  39. 39.

    Nukular Biskits

    @Lyrebird:

    The local rag of record, the Sun Herald, coasted on their Katrina coverage laurels for years.

    These days, they seem to be more interested in informing (?) their readers about lottery winners in other states.  The op-ed pages are replete with rightwing nonsense.

  40. 40.

    Matt

    Related: every pundit that predicted that Biden would “cause the GOP to moderate” shouldn’t just apologize and resign, they should apologize and then commit suicide on live TV – full on R. Budd Dwyer shit.

    That’d thin the herd of the horse-race reporters, if nothing else.

  42. 42.

    piratedan

    @Matt: I don’t really want anyone to pay with their lives after being so wrong so often, but there has to be other work we can have them do…

    Something thankless to put them back in touch with their humanity like school bus driver or data entry for Medicare registrations.

  43. 43.

    TriassicSands

    Moral and physical coward, Trump, loves to see people hurt each other. He probably roots for fatalities he’s such a POS.

  44. 44.

    TriassicSands

    @Boris Rasputin (the evil twin):

    Oh, the followers would jump up and Sieg Heil to the rafters.

    It would be fun to put together a video of a Trump speech with the audio dubbed and supplied by Hitler. In reality, the Hitler audio, as horrendous as it would be, would probably be far more coherent than a Trump speech.

  45. 45.

    TriassicSands

    @Matt: That’d thin the herd of the horse-race reporters, if nothing else.

    I suspect the substitute stable is full. Probably, a temporary reprieve at best. The problem isn’t just with the reporters. The publisher and editors at the Times and Post may be the worst offenders. I avoid television news (or online since I don’t have a television), but the executives there are probably the root of the problem, not the talking heads alone.

  46. 46.

    piratedan

    @TriassicSands: would agree, someone has to be directing the coverage and stories filed and even writing these headlines that may have jack shit in common with the stories filed.  These folks are never named, but they obviously have their hands up the alimentary canals of Vogel, Baker and Haberman.

  47. 47.

    Jackie

    @TriassicSands: You know he does; J6 is the perfect example. Instead of calling off his supporters determined to overtake the Capitol, he egged them on, while ignoring all pleas for him to stop them.

  52. 52.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @wjca: But if Trump wins, there won’t be any need for horse race reporters. Because, after all, there won’t be any races being held.

    I suppose, then, they’ll just have to settle for bread and circuses.

  54. 54.

    TriassicSands

    @wjca:

    I always wonder why those people don’t understand that they will be among the first people and businesses that Trump goes after.

    Playing the bothsiderist/false equivalence game all these years is terrible for Democrats, but it doesn’t mean anything to Trump. He hates them and wants to control any and all negative coverage.

  55. 55.

    TriassicSands

    @piratedan:

    I was cautiously hopeful that when Dean Baquet retired at the Times, that his replacement would be better. No such luck.

    Baquet didn’t think there was anything wrong with the Times’ converage of HRC’s emails.

  57. 57.

    TriassicSands

    @Jackie:

    I’d love to see Trump’s physical courage tested publicly. Everyone I know (who isn’t a RWNJ) agrees that if there were an active shooter, Trump wouldn’t hesitate to pick up a child to shield himself.

  59. 59.

    TriassicSands

    I’m about to get medication and vitals taken, so I think I’ll sign off for the night.

    Sleep well, everyone.

  61. 61.

    Citizen Alan

    @MattF: Nothing has changed at the NYT since they were praising Hitler and Mussolini in the 1930s. Fascist collaborators then. Fascist collaborators today.

  62. 62.

    RaflW

    There’s also this, which is absolute music to Putin’s ear: Trump went on further to state: “the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within.”

    His ‘vermin’ rhetoric is extremely toxic, but his waiving away of foreign risks is also damned stupid. But we already know he’s on Vlad’s side in all this.

  64. 64.

    TriassicSands

    @RaflW:

    Back for a minute.

    Yeah, I know it’s the Sulzbergers, and I didn’t expect better, I just hoped. It was no surprise when the new Editor-in-Chief said there wouldn’t be changes. And I haven’t seen any.

  66. 66.

    Matt McIrvin

    @RaflW:

    There’s also this, which is absolute music to Putin’s ear: Trump went on further to state: “the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within.”

    There’s a projection/mirroring aspect to this too, right? I mean, Trump’s side is the one that’s completely paranoid about immigrants, not ours. If you asked me I’d say that’s a true statement and he’s part of the threat from within.

  67. 67.

    Matt McIrvin

    I don’t think the horserace media people think of themselves as under threat at all–they’ll just switch to being Trump sycophants and be fine. That’s a lot of what happened last time.

    Remember Megan Amram mocking these useless people by tweeting “Today was the day Donald Trump became president” every single day?

  69. 69.

    Eduardo

    Trump is in great company: not just Hitler and Mussolini but our own Mussolini tropical, Fidel Castro and his braves class struggle fighters always called the opposition “gusanos” — literalmente vermins — to the point in which we call ourselves gusanos in informal conversations without even thinking, being ironic, or using as a term of endearment like we gays sometimes use the Cuban equivalent of f*gg*.

    Castro was really successful.  The totalitarianism was so, uhm, total, that terms like “oppositor” would not come naturally to our brains.  It felt like foreign.  Hence, gusano would have to do,

    Wish I believe there is a hell.

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