Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.

“Facilitate” is an active verb, not a weasel word.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

T R E 4 5 O N

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

Dear Washington Post, you are the darkness now.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

When they say they are pro-life, they do not mean yours.

Dear media: perhaps we ought to let Donald Trump speak for himself!

Innocent people do not delay justice.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

They punch you in the face and then start crying because their fist hurts.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

The republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

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If you missed the whole speech yesterday:

TFG gave a speech, also…

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  4. 4.

    Betty Cracker

    I agree with Ms. Jacobs in the last tweet above. Lots of Americans have forgotten what it was like to have that asshole constantly braying in our faces. They’re about to get a reminder. It’s a pity the rest of us have to endure it too, but here we are.

  5. 5.

    satby

    Biden’s speech was well received by most of the chattering class on Twitter, and since they “shape the narrative” that helps.

    At the same time, tfg’s incoherent, rambling, nonsensical and mean speech got a lot of attention for being all of that; with the same opinionators all talking about how obvious it is that his slipping gears are getting worse.

    Winner: Biden, by miles. Hope that continues.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    While 2016 was inexcusable, the two things you could say are:

    1. People thought Trump couldn’t win
    2. People didn’t really know what Trump would be like.

    No such excuse this year.

  7. 7.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Baud: Not entirely true though. I think most people still don’t understand how much worse an unleashed Trump out for revenge could be. They figure they got through his first term all right because they’re the ones who survived.

    All through the worst of the COVID pandemic I remember people expressing nostalgia for the simpler days just before it hit. During those days, Trump was president. Somewhere in the back of too many people’s minds, there’s this idea that if they elect him again we can somehow un-start the pandemic and rewind the world to that. And for some reason they don’t blame him any more for how it went.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    @Matt McIrvin:

    I don’t think so, since he lost in 2020. People aren’t nostalgic for the chaos, except his fans.

    ETA: Before the pandemic, he never polled positive.

  9. 9.

    satby

    And the SCOTUS decision to lift the injunction that prevented Idaho from prosecuting doctors if they perform an abortion as an emergency measure on a critically ill or injured woman to stabilize her, along with the other red states attempts to kill pregnant women with complications, is going to really inflame voters for the next election. People think we’ve gone back to a pre-Roe timeline, but it’s much worse. Abortions may have been illegal, but they treated non-viable pregnancies and critically injured women, they didn’t let them go septic or bleed to death before Roe.

  10. 10.

    p.a.

    tRump is like the kid (I bet most of us know the type), who loses a game and, instead of moving on to the next kid-thing, just wants “one more try”.  Again and again.   And whose friends egg him on- and carry guns.😳

  12. 12.

    Matt McIrvin

    @satby: The real model was the super-strict abortion laws that got passed in a bunch of Latin American countries after visits from Pope John Paul II in the 2000s. They started doing things like leaving ectopic pregnancies untreated.

  13. 13.

    TBone

    @Baud: Women I know (and I am one) do not easily forget or forgive those who cause such blatant, grievous harm.  Salem “witches” come to mind.

  14. 14.

    JPL

    In the olden days MSM would shun those who made fun of disabilities, now they just accept it.

  16. 16.

    sab

    @satby: Actually in a lot of states they did let them go septic, but back then it was considered an unfortunate but unavoidable risk of pregnancy. After Roe we realized that it was actually an avoidable result of inadequate medical care.

  17. 17.

    Geminid

    @Betty Cracker: Yes, while Trump has been a near constant presence on this forum, he’s been out of most people’s lives for three years. Now he’ll be in their faces again, blaring on about how they need four more years of his bullshit.

    Will his absence have made their hearts grow fonder? I don’t think so.

  18. 18.

    TBone

    @Baud: Morale is so very important.  I, for one, will not succumb to thoughts of anything but victory, my eyes are on the prize and I will do my damnedest to scream about this issue to anyone who can hear.  They will not succeed.

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    @satby: Was just reading about Ohio’s ongoing harassment of Brittany Watts over a miscarriage. It’s sick, the way the state is torturing that poor woman. I wish she could sue them for millions of dollars.

  24. 24.

    Betty Cracker

    It’s a rainy morning in the swamp — wind-driven sheets of rain are soaking the intrepid Great Blue Heron as he stalks through the shallows in search of prey. I’d attach a photo, but it’s still too dark for that.

  25. 25.

    sab

    @Betty Cracker: @TBone:  Even if she has adequate and successful legal defense, she is still a private person who has had her face plastered all over media all over the world in what should have been only a personal sad event.

    I want doctors that sent her home untreated (twice) and the nurse who reported to be civilly sued and criminally prosecuted. Both broke federal laws.

  26. 26.

    TBone

    @sab: punitive monetary damages and loss of licensure at the very least.  How are these people insured against malpractice?

  27. 27.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @p.a.: ​ Yeah, it’s hard to keep up. I haven’t watched the video, not going to. I’ve seen enough real life violence to last me a life time.

  28. 28.

    SFAW

    @Baud:

    And yet he was close to winning in 2020 (vis-a-vis vote margins in key EV states), and he still polls far better than he would/should in a country with a rational electorate.

    Unless and until Rethug voters have to pass a sanity test to be allowed to vote, we’re in danger of that mofo getting elected. Or appointed, for that matter. [“Appointed” meaning by the House.]

  30. 30.

    TBone

    @SFAW: polls are useless and poll tests are illegal.  I’m not sure why you think he was “close” except for the EC fuckery.  I am confident that we in the majority will not stand for any more malarkey, we’re not monkeying around.

  31. 31.

    SFAW

    @TBone:Poll tests are illegal? No shit? Next you’ll be trying to tell me poll taxes are illegal.
    I may be an asshole*, but I’m not a moron**. Yes, I know they’re illegal. But polls are not useless, just not as useful as the Village likes to depict them.

    I’m not sure why you think he was “close” except for the EC fuckery.

    The “EC fuckery” as you call it is — until NPV becomes the Law of the Land — the only thing that matters in the end. And considering that a flip of something like 80K votes in key states (GA, AZ, for example) in 2020 would have given TFG a majority of EV, you might want to rethink your snark.

    ​* Omnes can attest to this statement
    ** Omnes might disagree with this statement​​

  32. 32.

    eclare

    @SFAW:

    Yep.  I am confident that we will win the popular vote.  I am optimistic that we will win the EC, but the reality is that TFG has a non-zero chance of winning.

    That just makes me want to do more, probably postcards to some other state as I live in TN.

  33. 33.

    TBone

    @SFAW: I apologize if that sounded condescending, I am not trying to insult you.  I am just a stubborn mule and have had enough doom and gloom.

  35. 35.

    Ken

    President Joe Biden warned that Donald Trump’s 2024 bid poses a grave threat to the country

    According to Trump’s lawyers and his social media posts, this means that Biden, as President, can do anything he deems necessary to remove the threat. Right?

  36. 36.

    SFAW

    @TBone:

    Thanks.

    There are a number of people here who equate statements like “we’re in danger of losing to TIFG” with “OMFG!! We’re going to lose!! OMFG!!” Not that my opinion matters — as I wrote before, I’m an asshole — but it might be better if you did not fall into that trap. [NB: I have been (incorrectly) labelled as an “Eeyore” in the past because of just such equatings [sic].]

  37. 37.

    BlueGuitarist

    @SFAW:
    Re National Popular Vote Compact
    popular vote would be better than electoral college, but NPVC is a pre-1/6/2021 idea that assumes Republicans will do the right thing. They won’t. most Republicans don’t think Democrats should get the electoral votes of states Democrats won while winning the popular vote, Republican electors aren’t going to vote for Democrats. the fake electoral certificates of 2020 make clear Republicans will send electoral certificates for Republican candidates even if state legislatures direct that the slate chosen is that of the winner of the national popular vote not that of the state.

  39. 39.

    Chief Oshkosh

    Watching Biden’s speech on YT, I did not know that J6 convicts performed as a choir from various prisons on cell phones. WTF? Sounds like some wardens and guards need to be relieved of their taxpayer funded jobs.

  41. 41.

    catclub

    @Betty Cracker: I’d attach a photo, but it’s still too dark for that.

     

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend.  Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.

  42. 42.

    catclub

    @SFAW: and he still polls far better than he would/should in a country with a rational electorate.

    Yeah, you and I would like to have a rational electorate.  Also a puppy.

  44. 44.

    Paul in KY

    @Ken: Yes. If Pres Biden and his National Security/legal team determine (and maybe the secret NSA style court agrees) that TFG is an existential and malevolent threat to the United States of America, as constituted; a ‘wet action’ can be authorized (and would be perfectly legal) to remove TFG as a threat to the republic.

  46. 46.

    SFAW

    @Paul in KY:

    Meanwhile, various RWMF elected officials, in multiple states, have floated the idea of Biden being removed from the ballot in their state, because … veeblefetzer, I think was their justification(s). In other words, the same “evidence” that they have for his impeachment.

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