Someone asked for a thread on Greg Abbott’s decision to ignore a Supreme Court ruling and double down on the razor wire. Like Cheryl Rofer over at LGM, I don’t know exactly how to deal with this clown. But this I do know: he wants a confrontation with Biden, badly, as do the 25 Republican Governors backing him. He will keep escalating and threatening secession until he gets the confrontation he wants.
I hope the Biden administration will keep its power dry and confront Abbott at a time and place of their choosing, with a response that is firm but proportional. I have no idea what that response should be, so I’ll leave it there.
Baud
Agreed. The Internet is impatient, but That just plays into the GOP’s hands.
Martin
Technically, I don’t think he ignored the ruling. The ruling said the feds could take the razor wire down. Didn’t say Abbott couldn’t keep putting it back up.
I know this is all theater for the election, but this is going to end in violence between the feds and Trumpers before then. I don’t think this is going to work in their favor.
Hoodie
If Abbot’s claim is that Texas is being invaded, then why not just nationalize the TNG? Biden could say it’s necessary to deal with the “invasion,” but tactics really should be managed by the US Army, not the governor of Texas, who has no pertinent expertise. Then the Army says the CBP should handle most of the tasks because they’re more trained in dealing with immigration, kind of like the Navy uses the Coast Guard for anti-piracy missions because the CG is more experienced in ship boarding.
3letterjon
What Biden should do:
1. Wait for the next national disaster (forest fire? flooding? prairie dog sighting in Kansas?)
2. Federalize all the state guard troops that were sent to the border.
3. Send those troops to deal with the needed emergency.
4. Keep them there just long enough to annoy everyone.
5. Repeat as needed.
6. Send the Guard of the first governor who whines to North Dakota to dig a ditch.
7. Send the Guard of the second governor who whines to North Dakota to fill in that ditch.
8. Repeat as necessary until those Guardsmen have been activated long enough to get regular military pay.
Scout211
Trump is inciting his rabid base on this one.
Protest Convoy Headed to Southern Border Is Calling Itself an ‘Army of God’
And calling on the MAGA states to fight the federal government
Trump Calls on ‘All Willing States’ to Send National Guard Soldiers to Texas
teezyskeezy
Federalize the TX state guard and see who the traitors are that defy orders. Make them wanted felons with reward for information leading to their capture. All military and LEO orgs are full of radicalized right wingers. Might as well start cleaning house.
teezyskeezy
@Scout211: Well technically the explicit call is to forcifully remove immigrants crossing the border not explicitly to fight the feds, but, yeah, it sure is creeping up to another insurrection, isn’t it?
oldtighthead
Biden needs to do something, something emphatic, and fairly soon. I think Obama invited/enabled a lot of problems by not taking down the whole Bundy apparatus after the standoff at their ranch in Nevada.
eversor
SCOTUS will back Abbot, because Christianity must triumph.
Anything past that doesn’t matter.
@Hoodie:
The Navy doesn’t have to use Coast Guard for boarding actions. The Navy routinely conducts MIO and VBSS operations on a close to daily basis. It’s part of our bread and butter.
However getting boarded by the Navy tends to involve something along the lines of SEAL, Marines, or a dedicated team and is a world of hurt differently than getting a visit by Coast Guard forces.
I was in the Navy and did MIO and VBSS operations and we never needed the CG. And given that the Navy is, as always, running the counter pirate operations around the Red Sea, Persian Gulf, and more, to the point where two SEALs were recently killed I don’t know how you could get the idea that they don’t do it. Or did you also miss the Captain Philips fiasco?
But yes the Navy doesn’t deal with pirates and Christianity is also really good. Balloon Juice strikes again!
We don’t like using the Navy in our local areas
teezyskeezy
@eversor: I mean they didn’t back him last time, so that’s clearly not 100% true. But at least you are putting out predictions that can be right or wrong. It’s a step.
Van Buren
I guess I’m the only one in favor of rolling Abbott in front of a firing squad and then asking the other R guvs who wants next.
teezyskeezy
@eversor: You probably make even fewer friends than me here and that’s an accomplishment, but my advice is to try to be more diplomatic if you want to convince people of your militant atheism. However, I won’t say there is not a place for you in the world or here. It takes all kinds. Sometimes and individual has a balanced approach, sometimes a group is balanced by individuals that span the spectrum, including some outliers. So…I’d never filter you even if you are a bit on the offputting side…the world needs contrarians even if no one likes them. However…other people are probably definitely filtering you. You are probably telling people all about how you like pie and you don’t even know it. I’m probably doing the same to a number of people here.
Do you know about the pie filter?
Disclaimer: This was heavily edited over a 3-4 minute window.
Baud
@Van Buren:
Second term, man.
Lame duck status has its advantages.
Professor Bigfoot
@Van Buren: Actually, you’re not.
teezyskeezy
@Van Buren: I suggest a grove of live oaks during a thunderstorm. Give mother nature another go to get it right this time.
Harrison Wesley
Abbott seems to be getting awfully frisky now that DeSantis has retreated to communing with his pudding cup.
sdhays
@Scout211: “Blessed are the peacemakers, you know, the people who get sexually aroused at the thought of immigrant children drowning in the Rio Grande”.
🙄
kindness
Guantanamo. It’d be a good start.
Antonius
Cut off all Federal funding for Texas administratively until the state complies.
Hoppie
We live 15 miles north of the busiest land border crossing in the WORLD (not in Texas), and don’t see what is the problem at the border – unless it’s how long it takes to cross. Enforced imprisonment for EMPLOYERS who hire undocumented workers would dry up the incentive. Why isn’t Abbott doing the obvious? (Yes I know the answer)
TBone
Deescalate. Mock mercilessly. It’s just a piece of paper at this point. All hat, no cattle. Abbott is a cull and everyone knows these AGs are truly cowards.
jnfr
I read today that there’s another attempt at a convoy gathering in California. Bannon-backed, and heading for the Texas border where Abbott is throwing down his gauntlet. I saw some videos about it online.
Hard to tell whether these things are that serious. The convoy that went to D.C. last year didn’t get much traction, but the Canada one was a big nuisance at least for a while.
Chris
@Scout211:
I miss the days when people who thought they were called by God just rampaged around the Midwest trying to scrounge up the money to save an orphanage, and occasionally scared the shit out of some Nazis instead of joining them.
TBone
@jnfr: another opportunity to mercilessly mock them. Flu Trux KKKlan!
Parfigliano
Let them secede. Conquer them. Hang all members of their government. Make them like American Samoa. No US House or Senate representation.
Hoodie
@Hoppie: Abbot doesn’t want to do anything other than to posture, just like just about every other Republican. You have to call these guys’ bluff. Go ahead and nationalize the TNG, which also conveniently lets Biden say he’s actually doing something while the GOP plays games in Congress. That doesn’t means you do anything to punish the TNG, you just change their chain of command. The TNG doesn’t actually have to do anything other than let the CBP do their jobs. They can sit back and watch. We’ve done that before.
Yarrow
I’ve seen speculation that this is partly Abbott trying to get on the short list for TFG’s VP selection.
TBone
@Hoodie: bingo
TBone
Old dinosaur here doesn’t know how to use the pie filter but can ignore when necessary.
Alison Rose
@Parfigliano: Calm the fuck down.
Nukular Biskits
@eversor:
Everyone likes a little ass.
No one likes a smartass.
teezyskeezy
@Hoodie: You have to consider some *might* actively defy orders to do nothing and instead assist in removing immigrants and at that point you have to bring the hammer down. Me…i’d try to get the military to try them, but nicer people than me would probably opt to bring it through the civilian court system.
Urza
@Yarrow: TFG would never accept a guy in a wheelchair no matter how much ass kissing there is. If Abbot doesn’t realize that its just sad.
Hoppie
@Yarrow: Doesn’t he know TIFG’s opinion of disabled people?
teezyskeezy
@Alison Rose: Does he not look calm to you? Kidding, you are right, less of that, but if anyone defies the feds with force the feds need to bring the hammer down.
Hoodie
@teezyskeezy: Unlikely. Those guys mostly join the Guard to get the bennies. They won’t risk that. Plus, if they’re nationalized, I would imagine that fully fall under UCMJ, which can be a harsh mistress.
teezyskeezy
@TBone: Cool, cool.
Nukular Biskits
I agree that, if what is occurring is an “invasion” (which it isn’t, but stay with me here), then President Biden should federalize the NatGuard.
That would take a lot of the wind … uh, I mean, hot air, out of Abbott’s sails and those of those other Republican governors.
teezyskeezy
@Hoodie: Unlikely, yes, but across the entire force, there could be some. It must be considered, and dealt with if it happens.
Ashley Babbitt stormed the Capitol, remember. That was a completely irrational act, but it happened.
Edit: also, I’m thinking it is a little unfair to say *most* Guardsmen are in it for speed. That’s not true.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@eversore:
I just wanted to take a minute from my day to say “Fuck you.”
That’s all. Respond if you wish but I have nothing further to say as there’s nothing more to say to you than fuck you.
Yarrow
@Urza: I know that but I don’t know if Abbott knows it. It also might be Abbott getting in good with MAGA for a 2028 run.
@Hoppie: Who knows.
Yarrow
@Parfigliano: Fuck off.
Shana
“POWDER” keep your POWDER dry. Please correct if possible.
Harrison Wesley
With all of the international crises the US is involved with, we really needed something special to get the pot boiling here at home. I guess this will have to do.
MattF
I’m as clueless as anyone on how to fix this— but it does have the potential to settle the insurrection question. If Biden becomes the commander of the TNG, then Abbot ordering them to disobey Biden is insurrection. Period.
Urza
@Yarrow: MAGAs aren’t going to take a guy in a wheelchair either, genes aren’t manly enough regardless of how much suffering he inflicts.
lowtechcyclist
@Antonius:
This. If they refuse to recognize the authority of the Federal government, they don’t get any Federal money. Not just the state itself, but the people in it, any projects in the state that Federal money is going toward, etc. No Social Security, no Medicare, no Medicaid. Give the state 120 days to comply, and then the hammer falls.
Also, to the extent that the Rio Grande is navigable, the Coast Guard, the Marines, or some other branch of the military needs to be sending boats up and down the river and apprehending anyone who protects existing obstacles or tries to put new obstacles in the river.
gene108
@Hoppie:
The fight with Abbott isn’t about undocumented immigrants sneaking in without proper papers. It’s to limit the flow of legal immigrants seeking asylum.
The anti-immigration crowd, like the anti-abortion crowd, aren’t going to be happy until all immigration is halted.
*************
I wonder what the recruitment standards are for the TNG? Watching people mutilate themselves on razor wire or drown in a river, and not only refuse to provide help, but block others from helping is really a level of evil that is scary.
Republicans want to trigger a full on nullification crisis, so the federal government’s authority is subservient to state’s authority. I think Abbott’s oppositional defiance of the Supremacy Clause, along with the backing of 25 other Republican governors, makes me think this is part of a broader plan to undermine the rights we’ve come to take for granted.
Yes, this includes states thumbing their noses at Republican administrations, because no one is going to tell these fascist wannabe state politicians who is the boss of them.
teezyskeezy
@Odie Hugh Manatee: I know you are going to disagree, but I think you all should engage @eversore on two questions: 1. What is his/her tangible goal here, and 2. Is there a tangible thing that happened to him/her to make them particularly militant on this issue. There’s a reason we are all like we are.
Or did I just say some shit to you about pie?
TBone
Mah gurl from Tejas
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7gsqBEPSrd0
Harrison Wesley
@gene108: All the way back to the Articles of Confederation.
teezyskeezy
@MattF: Yes, and many are dismissing the possibility, saying none of them would dare.
But what if they do? Gotta be ready to deal with that. If Biden nationalized the Guard and there were even just 1% defecting (granted it might be more granular than that I don’t know shit about military organization) and you do nothing to them…then another 1% will say, shit, I can do what I want…and that will compound.
Actually it won’t even be as stable as compounded interest…it will be a snowball effect of everyone who is loyal vs. everyone who is a right wing fuck, right away.
Another Scott
Meanwhile, … NBCDFW.com:
Hmmm….
Cheers,
Scott.
Timill
Wait till some idiot in the TNG fires on the Border Patrol.
Intern all members of the TX congressional delegation (both D and R).
Elect Jeffries Speaker. Problem solved..
[Also: sit on all Fed checks headed for TX]
gene108
@Harrison Wesley:
Not that far back, but definitely pre-New Deal, when there was a lot less “interference” from the federal government. I just can’t accept this many prominent Republicans sign on to something without a deeper plot boiling. Some billionaire or operative is pulling the strings.
Ksmiami
@oldtighthead: agreed. These cretins need to be dealt with. Preferably with armed drones.
Rjv
Tired genre, I realize, but imagine if a blue state refused to follow Kommander John Roberts’ orders
Yarrow
HAHAHAHAHA! The official Joe Biden account quote tweeted this:
and tweeted this:
I love it when Dark Brandon shows up!
gene108
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
This is ridiculously rude.
Eversor has his issues, but I haven’t witnessed his posts individually attacking another commentator.
Salty Sam .
Tell me how this is any different from a slow-motion, less intense Jan.6th insurrection. Abbott is defying Federal law, Trump himself is now egging the situation on, private citizens (the truckers) are starting to show up and engage … how should the Biden Administration deal with this?
What would have been a proper response to Jan. 6th, had Biden been in office and had plenty of advance warning? Because it seems to me that is the situation here.
Quinerly
@Shana:
Thank you. It was bugging me.
zhena gogolia
@Yarrow: That is so funny.
TBone
@Yarrow: that’s the trolling I was referring to earlier and I am SO here for it.
Baud
@Yarrow:
So awesome.
Yarrow
@zhena gogolia: @TBone: Whoever does Biden’s social media is so good. I laughed out loud when I saw it.
Alison Rose
@teezyskeezy: He has no tangible goal. He’s a bored idiot with nothing better to do than try to piss off libs.
As to your second question, he has apparently stated in the past that he was victimized by someone associated with a church. For which I extend empathy. However, I do not think being harmed by a person in a certain group means it is okay to demonize everyone in that group forever. I’ve been assaulted more than once by men. I don’t constantly screech about needing to castrate and/or jail all men. One of those men was originally from India. It didn’t turn me into a racist who hates all Indians.
Harrison Wesley
@Rjv: Why, the NYT would immediately dispatch a crew of crack reporters to interview the Swastika Sunday Supper Club at Bud’s Anal Grill to find out what real heartland Americans thought of such treasonous behavior.
TBone
@Salty Sam .: it’s not gunfight at the OK corral. If it gets that far, the feds will crush them like stomping on a palmetto bug. They know it. We all should know it.
Frank Wilhoit
The historical parallel that y’all’n are groping for is Ireland, 1912-14. It is in some ways an extremely close parallel, notably in the fact that the Conservative Party (in opposition) was working to split the Army.
TBone
@Harrison Wesley: L.O.L.
TriassicSands
Military invasion and the execution by firing squad of Abbott, Paxton, and the entire Texas Nazi Party.
I’m going for proportionate.
Seriously, it’s hard to know how to deal with cretins like Abbott. As with Trump, any confrontation just raises their profile and fires up the base. It’s fascinating that the SCOTUS SIX are working so hard to do the GOP’s bidding and here is Abbott undermining their authority and legitimacy.
Once again, as always for Trump and the cult, the only laws that matter are ones that favor the party. If Biden ignored a SCOTUS decision, I think it goes without saying that the House would immediately vote to impeach him. We’ve reached a point now where the level of hypocrisy we see from Republicans is almost unbelievable, but after so many years of escalating dishonesty and unprincipled behavior nothing is shocking or even surprising anymore. It became obvious years ago and has only been reinforced with each passing day that there is no bottom to the Republican barrel of depravity. The sky may be the limit, but its located in the pit of hell.
Jeffro
Biden: “Mr. trump calling for ‘all willing states’ to send their men and women in the National Guard to the border, when there is already a tremendous bipartisan deal with unprecedented funding just waiting for Congress, tells you one thing: this man cares not ONE BIT for this country, not ONE BIT for solving its problems.
I have said before and will say it again: he will burn. down. our Constitutional republic in order to save himself from the myriad of legal consequences that have begun raining down on his criminal behavior.
Don’t fall for it, Americans. Red state, blue state, it doesn’t matter. We are all Americans, and we don’t let a career criminal incite us to fight one another.
Let’s solve this in the People’s Congress, where a bipartisan deal awaits.
Thank you, may God bless America, and may God bless our troops – no matter the motivations of the MAGA extremists who send them far from their home states.”
Lyrebird
@Hoppie: Is that in SoCal?
And there have been times, like under Clinton, when DoJ has prioritized going after abusive employers. But yeah current TX Gov? Not likely.
TBone
Note the DATE of the article.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/far-right-nazis-proud-boys-humor-laughtivism.html
Baud
Via Reddit, graffiti at trump tower.
TBone
@Jeffro: exactly correct as usual. ❤️
TBone
@Baud: bwaaa hahahaha!
Alison Rose
@gene108: Just because he hasn’t said a particular commenter should be killed doesn’t mean him saying “we need to jail and/or kill all Christians”* isn’t an attack on any Christians who happen to comment here.
Let me ask: If his comments were about Jews or Muslims or Buddhists or Sikhs, how would you feel then?
(*and yes, back before he switched gimmicks to “I’m voting straight GOP and Christianity forever!” when he was still doing the “We have to get rid of Christianity” thing, that is indeed what that meant. Because how do you get rid of a religion other than by banning it and either imprisoning or executing anyone practicing it?)
Burnspbesq
@Van Buren:
Not by a long shot. But indict him for something first.
Paul in KY
@TBone: Like that advice. Just don’t want any kids that have to cross because parents do getting hurt.
TriassicSands
@Salty Sam .:
We live in Upside Down Land now. Responding to Republican lawlessness only improves their standing among supporters.
Do you know what would have made Trump even more popular today among Republicans? If he faced a half dozen criminal trials and 191 indictments instead of the paltry 91 counts he currently faces.
Paul in KY
@Urza: Agreed. If he thinks he could get that veep-lickspittle spot, he just don’t know TFG.
gene108
@TriassicSands:
Apparently, the SCOTUS gave Abbott an out. They didn’t specify he had to cease and desist putting up razor wire. He just had to cooperate to let the CBP take down the razor wire.
Paul in KY
@Urza: Maybe Abbot watched Dr. Strangelove & thought he could be like the wheelchair dude. Of course, that guy was German…
Paul in KY
@teezyskeezy: Pretty sure eversor is a guy.
TeezySkeezy
@Alison Rose: Eversore is annoying, but I really don’t think we should equivocate a set of beliefs that one ostensibly chooses to believe with a race or with ethnicity (the latter two being something we don’t choose for ourselves). I know when people say that, it often devolves into racism because too often racist people from outside a particular ethnicity will equivocate that particular ethnicity with the religion that is most often associated with said ethnicity by outsiders (mouthful, yes…but that’s the issue). So it does too often become a racial discrimination issue. However, religion is a set of beliefs we choose. It’s not race or ethnicity. Eversore is a pissy twat about a set of beliefs, not someone’s DNA (unless demonstrated otherwise, certainly not putting myself out to defend em).
Bobby Thomson
I’m good with a lot of dead Confederates, in proportion to their 19th century losses. That’s a proportionate response. The last time it enabled us to actually do things for a decade. Might be longer this time.
TeezySkeezy
@Paul in KY: Probably. I know. Look, I know.
TriassicSands
@Baud:
The only thing wrong with that is it appears to be written in chalk. It would be better if it had been jack-hammered into the concrete. Or tattooed onto the foreheads of Trump and his “stellar’ legal team.
Hubba, hubba, hubba was once a (crude and juvenile) way to express the feeling that a woman was beautiful or sexy. Today, I think saying Habba, Habba, Habba would be a way to express how corrupt and stupid someone is. Ms. Habba claims that the $83.3 million judgment is because Trump leads in the polls. If breathing required conscious thought Ms. Habba would suffocate. What a piece of work.
Alison Rose
@TeezySkeezy: So you would be okay if his comments were about other religions? If he said we needed to get rid of Islam? Because while they may be a sort of “born to it” aspect there, it is still something someone chooses.
Salty Sam .
True- but at some point, a response MUST be made. We are at this point because Dem administrations have let things slide in the past. A previous commenter mentioned the Bundy’s- those assholes and their followers should be rotting in a Federal prison somewhere.
As for MAGA supporters, Fuck Their Feelings.
Salty Sam .
Maybe you missed it, it’s been awhile since he was really on fire in the comments, but he repeatedly used eliminationist rhetoric against any and all Christians.
Cole has an admirably liberal commenting policy. If it were my blog, I’d have banned that shit-head a long time ago.
piratedan
Not in favor of holding federal money from Texas, because of who will be hurt, just everyday folks who depend on social security and Medicare and such. I think Biden is going to ask the Coast Guard and Border Patrol to keep doing what they are doing, document what is taking place and escalate what they experience up their chains of command and coordinate with Homeland.
Texas and the other GOP Governors are looking for a wedge and confrontation to take the focus off of all of the Biden success and Trump troubles.
Biden is not going to shoot first, that’s not who he is…. If Abbott puts the wrong person in place and they do shoot first, well then the gloves are off and we’re watching Ft. Sumter II, GOP Boogaloo.
Quinerly
I’ll leave this here. Rudy’s assets and liabilities in his personal bankruptcy.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-26/giuliani-lists-yankees-loot-trump-claim-as-assets-in-bankruptcy?leadSource=uverify%20wall
Hoppie
@Lyrebird: San Diego, Hillcrest specifically. We are very tied to Tijuana economically. Mutually interdependent.
TriassicSands
@Salty Sam .:
I couldn’t agree more, but the response has to be well thought out and appropriately timed.
gene108
@Alison Rose:
From the way I read his ranting, he’s more about converting (forcibly?) Christians to whatever flavor of atheism he adheres to. It’s offensive, but most people on liberal blogs are atheists with varying degrees of hostility to organized religion, which they mention from time to time.
Just calling someone an asshole, just because they mostly comment rant obsessively on a topic to the point of annoyance isn’t good for community decorum. Especially since the post on this thread is more about the Navy’s ability to interdict and board other naval vessels.
Given the institutional power of Christianity in this country, it’s a bad comparison. Christians can be mocked or insulted for their beliefs. There aren’t panics over churches being built, unlike the “Ground Zero Mosque”, and local shit storms over requests to permit the construction of mosques in rural areas.
TeezySkeezy
@Salty Sam .: well thats why i said i wont go out on a limb to defend him if someone proves me otherwise. You did. Thats fascism on his part and I dont believe in that.
Jeffro
@TBone: high praise indeed!
Salty Sam .
You and I are in complete agreement. Some of the suggestions here border on ludicrous. Firing squads, withholding funds, etc.
Anybody with a lick of sense knows the proper response is to stake Greg Fuckin Abbott to the largest fire ant mound in the pasture…
Alison Rose
@gene108: Forced conversion is also a bad thing, BTW. No matter who does it.
And may I remind you: Eversor also said all of us — everyone on this blog — supported rape because a few people were going to have a meet-up at a restaurant that once employed a man who was later on accused of assault. He didn’t hint at it. He said it as explicitly as possible. Some of us are survivors and he included us in that screed.
He’s a fucking asshole and he should be told so often.
And sure, Christianity isn’t a minority. That doesn’t make screaming about wanting to eradicate all Christians okay. Again, men are also not a minority. If the only thing I ever said on here was that all men deserve to be locked up or killed, would that be acceptable because men have more societal power?
TeezySkeezy
@Alison Rose: the eliminationist rhetoric is bad and gross. However, I think the world would be better with fewer strict textual adherents of all denominations. But thats something people have to come to through their own enlightenment, not by force–otherwise more evil has been committed.
Jackie
@Quinerly: If Rudy can sue TIFG for payments due…😂🤣
That would be the chef’s kiss!
Another Scott
One for TaMara, and the yoots. WhiteHouse.gov:
Good, good.
And the “with the exception of unanticipated and immediate national security emergencies” language keeps VVP from grinning about the USA somehow turning off LNG to Germany while the Ukraine war continues. (The USA isn’t going to freeze western Europe.)
This reminds me of the “continent-spanning death funnel” [ /Charlie-Pierce ] that Obama shut down in November 2015. The Keystone XL company finally gave up on it in June 2021.
Democrats have been and are acting on climate and clean energy. I’ll bet the yoots are noticing.
Eyes on the prizes.
Cheers,
Scott.
Chris T.
@teezyskeezy:
I think Hoodie meant “benefits”, not “benzedrine”, when he/she/they wrote “bennies”.
Omnes Omnibus
@Chris T.: They have speed in the Guard? In the real army, we just have caffeine. Fuckers.
Manyakitty
@Van Buren: I’d rather roll him to the wrong side of the Rio Grande, dump him in, and walk away.
Manyakitty
@jnfr: wonder if there’s a connection with the truck nonsense in Poland and Romania against Ukraine.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: had, not have. I got out long enough ago that things may have changed.
Ivan X
@TeezySkeezy: I’d agree, in principle, but in this case, the commenter in question is not arguing in good faith. We know this from past exchanges, where he was treated with more credibility than warranted; he refused to ever address the substance of anyone’s comments, after they engaged in the manner you are suggesting one might.
Then, he showed up one day just to say that he voted straight Republican in (I think) the VA special election. Why? To spite us. That’s right, us, the readers of this blog, because as a community we won’t join him wholesale in his moral equation of Christianity to Nazi Germany, the thing that matters to him most. I am not making this up. He literally said something to the effect of having voted R because we make him mad for not condemning Christianity. Look what we made him do!
So, I mean, “fuck you” is all he can reasonably expect to get at this point, since what he seems to want most, if he can’t have what he wants, is for others here to feel shitty. And, if he’s telling the truth (who knows?) about how he voted and why, then he doesn’t deserve better, though I don’t feel it’s worth wasting my breath on or raising my blood pressure for. Regardless of the motivation, functionally he’s a troll, and so I don’t feed him, and wish others wouldn’t either.
He can say what he wants, hateful though he is, and I don’t pie him (or anyone). But I sure don’t think he deserves continued oxygen from us, and I’m annoyed at myself for even writing this much about him, much as I am annoyed when I expend any energy writing about Trump. What good does it do anyone?
Subsole
@Parfigliano:
Fuck you too, prick.
Johannes
@Van Buren: No, I’m kinda there myself
Skippy-san
Federalize the Texas Guard. The head of the National Guard Bureau should be answering many questions from SECDEF on why the Guard is not cooperating with the Border Patrol. It’s a gross misuse of the Guard what Abbott is doing now.
Skippy-san
@eversor: You clearly were not paying attention then and also you ignore the distinction between domestic and international operations.
You are not the only person here that served.
And your viewpoint on Abbott is beneath contempt. Its evil.