This thread is wide-open, but I do need a few volunteers for something raffle-related.
I need 4 people to supply a number between 1 and 87.
And I need 4 more people to supply a number between 501 and 610.
Other than that, what’s everybody up to?
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We have winners for the Alley Cat raffle!
1st place: lowtechcyclist
He gets the alley cat quilt, unless he prefers one of the other prizes.
2nd place: Mousebumples
3rd place: Andrya
4th place: PatrickG
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Congratulations to the Alley Cat raffle winners!
We have winners for the Star Path raffle!
1st place: Andrya
She gets the alley cat quilt, unless he prefers one of the other prizes.
2nd place: grandmabear
3rd place: KRK
4th place: Maxim
Congratulations to the Star Path raffle winners!
Quiltingfool will mail the 1st prize quilts on Tuesday, since the post office is likely closed on Monday.
Reminder: the quilt blocks haven’t been made yet, so for the 6 of you who won quilt blocks, let us know which one you want so Quiltingfool will know which ones to make.
Big thanks to everyone who participated in the raffle or just donated!
SiubhanDuinne
72
Trivia Man
Pi
Trivia Man
Or round it to 3
WaterGirl
FYI, we “sold” 199 raffle tickets and raised $8,000 for Ukraine in 2 weeks.
Alison Rose
11
Pete Downunder
@Trivia Man: There is an engineer comedian (name escapes me) who says engineers round pi to 4, just to be safe.
WaterGirl
Alley Cat, first round: Â 72, 11, 13, 42
Star Path, first round: 555, 568,547, 532
Scout211
555
WaterGirl
@Pete Downunder: But you’re not submitting 4 as a number?
dmsilev
568
Another Scott
Surely someone has to pick 13, right??
Cheers,
Scott.
Sandia Blanca
23
tb
@Alison Rose: wow 11 was going to be my number
Anne Laurie
Lots of random number generators on the web, if anyone complains about possible bias…
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: Ha!
Baud
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WaterGirl
@Anne Laurie: I have a random number generator, but thanks. Â Your concern is noted!
WaterGirl
@Baud: Buzzer. Â Answer not accepted!
I’m sure I should have specified integer, or positive integer, or or or.
Ken
@Pete Downunder: Cosmologists are worse. Or so says XKCD.
Another Scott
@Ken: Aren’t they the ones that routinely divide out infinities??
[ rofl ]
Cheers,
Scott.
laura
547
Trivia Man
@Baud: jinx
you owe me a coke
Baud
@Trivia Man:
Can’t believe you used Roman letters. I can’t even look at you right now.
Jinchi
532
CliosFanBoy
So, who won???
surfk9
42
dmsilev
@Another Scott: No, thatâs more a particle-physics thing.
It mostly works, and as a bonus makes mathematicians go all twitchy.
WaterGirl
@Trivia Man: I read that as cookie, and now I want a cookie, dammit.
WaterGirl
Okay, we have our numbers for the first round.
Alley Cat, first round:
72
11
13
42
Star Path, first round:
555
568
547
532
Yutsano
69
520
trollhattan
555
Eyeroller
@Another Scott: No. Those are quantum physicists and they more or less subtract infinities. It is called renormalization.
wjca
And you using a Cyrillic letter was better how, exactly?
Baud
@wjca:
It’s Greek-ish.
schrodingers_cat
Did you guys see Ezra Klein’s op-ed piece? He wants Biden to drop out.
Garbage Times Link
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Tough shit.
Chief Oshkosh
54-40 or fight!
Suzanne
My bourbon pumpkin bread is in the oven. The kids and the dog are all full of energy. Dog got two walks, kids went to trampoline park, and theyâre still climbing the walls.
WaterGirl
Okay, round 2 for Star Path:
I need 2 more numbers between 501 and 610
WaterGirl
@schrodingers_cat: And I want Ezra Klein to shut the fuck up.
Neither Ezra nor myself is going to get what we want. :-)
wjca
You mean Macedonian?
Alison Rose
@tb: BRAINTWINZ. It’s my birthdate :)
WaterGirl
We have winners for the Alley Cat raffle!
1st place: lowtechcyclist
He gets the alley cat quilt, unless he prefers one of the other prizes.
2nd place: Mousebumples
3rd place: Andrya
4th place: PatrickG
Congratulations to the Alley Cat raffle winners!
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: This seems like a coordinated effort on the part of the NYT to get Biden to step down.
Urza
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1758549069943783429.html
Been waiting for an open thread for this. Speaker Johnson has some splaining to do. I can’t figure out how the adopted son doesn’t mean he’s gay, a pedophile, or maybe just into child slavery. Otherwise there wouldn’t be a problem with telling the story.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
They want to feel powerful. Either by somehow getting Biden to step down or costing him the election like they did Hillary.
Elizabelle
@schrodingers_cat: Â Our country would be better off if Nepo baby AG Sulzberger and rich kid editor Joe Kahn stepped down.
Or stepped down an elevator shaft. Â Whatever it takes.
Talk about two men who are BAD at their jobs. Â Fuck ’em.
WaterGirl
I just talked to Quiltingfool, and since she hasn’t made the blocks yet, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place winners can each choose from any of these 4 quilt blocks.
WaterGirl
Can’t anybody here play this game?Can anybody here spare a couple of numbers between 501 and 610?
Urza
@schrodingers_cat: The people in charge have nothing else to get him out of office.
Alison Rose
@WaterGirl: 511 and 520
wjca
I suppose maybe I should make that North Macedonian…? Or does Greek whinging only apply to the country, not the language?
SiubhanDuinne
@surfk9:
Somebodyâs been hanging out with Deep Thought.
WaterGirl
Okay, I need one more number between 501 and 610!
Elizabelle
503
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: Okay, one more!
wjca
599
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodingers_cat:
Some asshole on MSNBC just posed the question: Are Democrats doing so well (in special elections, referenda, etc.) because of Biden or in spite of Biden?
WaterGirl
@wjca: I need one more!
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
Maybe Dems are doing well because they stopped watching MSNBC.
Mr. Bemused Senior
609
HinTN
@WaterGirl: 595
Another Scott
@dmsilev:Â @Eyeroller:
Mea culpa. My dad had the math degree and it’s been too long since I’ve read anything on this stuff.
:-)
Cheers,
Scott.
wjca
Do I hold my breath waiting for someone to ask: are Republicans doing so badly because of Trump or in spite of Trump?
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
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WaterGirl
@Mr. Bemused Senior:Â @HinTN:
Okay, a couple more needed.
Everybody keeps picking numbers that weren’t assigned to any of the 110 tickets. Â Not your fault! :-)
RaflW
@schrodingers_cat: Klein has been fully assimilated into the Grayborg.
WaterGirl
@wjca: Â I would say the answer to the one about Trump is yes.
Mr. Bemused Senior
It’s OK, I got lots of numbers left [h/t Chico].
513
WaterGirl
@RaflW: Yes. Â It seems to happen to all of them. Â Well, nearly all.
Timill
@WaterGirl: 607
WaterGirl
@Mr. Bemused Senior: Finally! Â whew
RaflW
@Elizabelle: As far as I can tell, AG Sulzberger’s only job is to protect his and his family’s wealth. In that regard, he’s probably performing to spec. It’s not good for the US, or the news industry, but he’d doing what the rich do best – pad their lives with more cushion.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@WaterGirl: just lucky I guess
RaflW
@WaterGirl: Paul Krugman is the exception that proves the rule.
WaterGirl
We have winners for the Star Path raffle!
1st place: Andrya
She gets the STAR PATH quilt, unless he prefers one of the other prizes.
2nd place: grandmabear
3rd place: KRK
4th place: Maxim
Congratulations to the Star Path raffle winners!
Mr. Bemused Senior
@RaflW: watch out, there are math nerds around here
WaterGirl
@RaflW: Yep!
Trivia Man
@Baud: arabic FTW
Nelle
Open thread….we’re reeling to find out that old friends, with whom we’d been out of touch with since moving, have gone down the MAGA hole. They acknowledge our shared past (45 years ago, my husband was key in saving her life; later, when we lived in the same region, we spent holidays together) but say that now we are such victims of propaganda, that they wish no further interaction. They did refer us to Tucker’s interview of Putin, in case we choose to take our blinders off. They are highly educated (at least 2 PhDs and an MD degree between the two of them). Not anyone I would have suspected as being caught up in this.
Baud
@Nelle:
Education is not a perfect vaccine against the disease. I’m sorry.
A Aboto
wjca
Realizing, just too late, when asked for “1 more number” I should have responded 604. Adding the digits gives 10. Adding the digits again gives 1. Mission accomplished!
eclare
@Nelle:
That is stunning and awful and scary. I’m so sorry.
Quadrillipede
@Urza: With all that info gathered in one thread, definitely something seems off about all those Republican âfosteringâ scenarios, especially given their otherwise general indifference to protecting children (or anyone non-white-male for that matter) from abuse and/or exploitation…
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WaterGirl
@A Aboto: That one would have matched one of the randomly assigned  numbers, but all the winners were selected one number before you added yours.
Quadrillipede
@WaterGirl: 606, if you still need any numbers…
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl: I think you mean the Star Path quilt?
WaterGirl
@Nelle: Oh my god. Â THEY don’t want any more interaction with you?
YOU are the victims of propaganda?
The mind boggles. Â I’m so sorry.
wjca
Open thread…most of the California ballot was easy. But then, there was the “opportunity” to select 7 (of 9) candidates for the party’s county central committee. The challenge: finding out anything about the candidates. I managed to discover one is an anti-trans nutcase. But beyond that? Simply zero information found via Google. No candidate statements. No candidate websites. Nada.
Sigh. This is where any change to the party infrastructure starts. And we’re flying blind. What is wrong with this picture?
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: Good catch!
I replaced all the winner names from the winners of the other raffle, and the quilt names at the top, but missed one. Â Glad you caught it before anyone else got confused.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Nelle:
Sorry to hear that. As Baud said, education isn’t total protection
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black
Quadrillipede
I have a spare hour or so â I might try and see if I can’t count them all…
(If I’m in a rush, maybe I’ll just do all the rational numbers between 0 and 1!)
WaterGirl
@wjca: That doesn’t seem very California-like to me.
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
They project more than an IMAX.
HinTN
@Nelle: I know “smart” people who are all in on the Fox echo chamber. I just don’t talk to them except when absolutely necessary and then only about that necessary business.
Quadrillipede
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Ohio Mom
Iâm so old, I remember when Ezra Klein and Matt Yglesais were just-out-of-college young and roommates and something of child prodigies of online punditing.
Like almost all child prodigies, they grew into mediocrity. Playing Mozart like an adult when you are six is unusual and noteworthy; playing Mozart like an adult when you are an adult, so what?
(At the same time, Josh Marshall was posting long, single-spaced, rambling essays about some piece of news or another â I could hardly plow through his digressions. But boy, did he come into his own!)
wjca
@WaterGirl: It was, admittedly, a Republican county committee. Which I got as a result if seizing the opportunity to vote against TIFG twice this year.
Baud
@wjca:
And there was only one anti-trans nutcase?
WaterGirl
@wjca: That makes more sense.
@Baud: You make an excellent point, too.
wjca
@Baud: There was only one identifiable anti-trans nutcase. As I say, there was a total lack of information on the rest.
WaterGirl
@wjca: missed opportunity. :-)
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Quadrillipede: I happen to have just read The Joy of X: A Guided Tour of Math, from One to Infinity
I ran across Steven Strogatz in the (FTF) NYT, he wrote a math column there. I’m looking forward to giving this book to my math-loving grandson. In a few years.
Elizabelle
@Nelle: Â How sad. Â Hugs, and you deserve better friends.
One wonders what the hell happened to them.
FelonyGovt
@wjca: I happened to know 3 of them, and voted for those people only (I think we could vote for 6 or 7?) . And I only know them due to my brief involvement in a local Democratic club. How in the world is anyone supposed to know who to vote for.
Glidwrith
@wjca: Can you disclose the name of the anti-trans crazy? I would like to not vote for them.
FelonyGovt
@FelonyGovt: missed the exit window. Sorry, didnât realize you had a Republican ballot. But the same was the case for the Democratic ballot (minus, hopefully, the anti-trans nutcase).
Origuy
There was some font geekery in a thread this morning, so I thought I’d share this. An Instagram poster named Elle Cordova has a series of bits about anthromorphic fonts. She plays Ariel, Helvetica, etc. Amusing. Fonts Hanging Out.
Nelle
@Elizabelle: I just made contact with a mutual friend, also involved in saving the woman’s life. He confirms what has happened and has also been banned from going to see them. If he is out, then this is severe. He was their best friend.
This I didn’t see coming. I’m stunned. I met the three of them that long ago, three of the most intelligent and lively people I’d met up to that time. What the hell happened to them? I keep looking back and don’t see the antecedents but then, I guess I knew them less well than I thought.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Origuy: very cute. Thanks.
Quadrillipede
@Mr. Bemused Senior: Ooh, that book looks like it could be a fun read…đ
I always found school-level math to be extremely intuitive, and had no trouble getting solid A grades. Went to University to pick up a Math degree, and found that not only was math no longer intuitive, I hadn’t needed to pick up any useful skills in high school for trying to apply myself to any subject I couldn’t instantly grok.
I actually wound up switching to Philosophy in my second year â I found philosophy was actually less abstract than the kind of mathematical reasoning I was being exposed to (e.g. proving numbers exist, set theory, infinitesimals, Cantor’s diagonal argument, etc…)
Philosophy did give me enough exposure to logic and analytical reasoning to land a job as a programmer (around the turn of the century, before computer science degrees became mandatory to enter the field), and these days after playing with some functional languages, I’m more interested in Category Theory than math per se.
[ In the event that anyone does want a recent overview of category theory, this lecture at the Royal Institution isn’t bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48VqWQ2YbGk ]
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Quadrillipede: my story is too long to fit in the margins here đ
I luckily found my way into software so my other science and math interests are strictly amateur.
Yes, that book is fun and I think you will enjoy it.
wjca
@Glidwrith:
In Contra Costa county, that would be Lisa Disbrow. I found out from
https://www.sfchronicle.com/eastbay/article/bay-area-school-board-trump-17515947.php (paywalled, but it lasted long enough for me to scroll down / skim to where she was quoted on the subject.)
wjca
I can so relate. In high school, German was a shock to my system. Suddenly, just listening in class and doing the homework didn’t cut it. I had to learn how to, you know, study.
Then I got to college, and discovered I had to study everywhere; and learning how to study German didn’t much help, beyond letting me know that I could (eventually) figure it out. I did, but it definitely seemed like the high school curriculum had a serious lack.
Steeplejack
@Urza:
Re Speaker Mike Johnson: another thing I got reminded of today is that story about how he apparently does not have a checking account?! With no follow-up on where all the money comes from and goes to.
Quadrillipede
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âI apologize for such a long letter – I didn’t have time to write a short one.â
â Mark Twain?
Quadrillipede
When I was at school, I was once sent to France to live with a French family for some kind of âlanguage immersion exchangeâ program thing. I very vividly remember them having long, involved conversations entirely in French, which I suppose is completely unsurprising, but for some reason I was amazed they were so good at it…
wjca
I go to various international conventions. Where I find people from all over the world who speak English like native speakers. I’m amazed at how good they are at that. Even the ones whose English is labored are amazingly good in reality.
Also embarrassed a) at how poor I am at any other language, and b) that I get props as an American who at least takes the trouble to learn how to say “Thank you” (first priority), and maybe “Hello”, in the local language. We mostly have no clue how much our economic (and, to some extent, entertainment) dominance advantages us. Aided, admittedly, by the efforts of the British Empire in the previous century.
lowtechcyclist
Late to this thread because of a busy night last night, but wow, I won the Alley Cat quilt!! My wife is so gonna love this!!!
(IOW, no, I don’t want one of the other prizes instead.)
Thank you, Quiltingfool, for designing and putting together all these wonderful quilts for us!
And thanks, WaterGirl, for organizing this!
PatrickG
Chanting: Weâre number four! Weâre number four!
ETA: thanks to Quiltingfool for the awesome crafting that leads to fundraising! Truly the #1!