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Saturday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  February 17, 202410:06 pm| 75 Comments

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Dinner was fun, or as I have been informed now, the “hot date” was fun. I tried to tell Joelle that along with dancing, Cole’s don’t do “hot dates” and was thusly informed that “Joelle does” so I guess we were on a Pizza hut/taco bell dinner/hot date. We went to a placed called the Clever Koi and Joelle had a cocktail and we shared some avocado and crab rangoons and some short rib dumplings. Then we headed across the way to the sister restaurant, Across the Pond, and Joelle had a roll and I had some ceviche. And then we went to Joe’s for Italian Ice.

Joelle loves these kinds of places- modern and hip with fancy cocktails with big names and the overly attentive staff who are totally into what they do and it’s almost part of their identity. I don’t dislike them, but I guess it’s not the kind of place I am drawn to (obligatory comment about requiring pants and shoes, etc.). On the way over I saw two places that are right up my alley and pointed them out- “Tacos Chiwa now that’s a place that you know has banging food no bullshit on the sign or the name and no big fuss on the appearances.” That’s how my mind works, I suppose.

Saw another place and pointed it out- Luke’s Italian Beef and Sausage Sandwiches. I think my exact remarks were “Look at that sign you know that’s a real Italian place with snowbirds from back east bet there’s only a half dozen things on the menu, too. Yer gonna get hit with a youse guys when you walk in” I’ll confirm when I go.

***

Fuck the Republicans for what they are doing to Ukraine. That is all.

***

I can not tell you how excited I am for next Saturday- like a little kid for Christmas. I have been waiting for this for weeks, because next Saturday is CATFEST at the Mesa Historical Museum. Sadly, I have been told you are not allowed to bring your own cat with you.

That is all for me tonight.

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  1. 1.

    Devore

    February 17, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    Thanks for the cat fest tip

  2. 2.

    Steeplejack

    February 17, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    It all sounds good, Cole. 👍

  3. 3.

    piratedan

    February 17, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    Luke’s is reliable feed, remember to get it “dry” or else your meal will be soggy on the bottom and all that implies….. more of a combo guy, where you get your italian sausage with your beef, naturally ymmv.

  4. 4.

    Sister Golden Bear

    February 17, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    Joelle is gonna civilize you, resistance is futile. Soon you’re gonna be asking Derek Guy from the hellsite for recommendations about the best Italian-tailored overalls.

  5. 5.

    eclare

    February 17, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    Dinner sounds great (clever restaurant names), and I can’t wait to hear how CATFEST was!  Be sure you have good photos of both Steve and Max on your phone, you may see an artist that you like who does pet portraits.

  6. 6.

    WaterGirl

    February 17, 2024 at 10:32 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: My money is on Joelle, except that Cole has months back in WV where he can backslide, so on second thought, I’m not sure which way I would lay that bet.

  7. 7.

    Alison Rose

    February 17, 2024 at 10:35 pm

    Really?

  8. 8.

    Anne Laurie

    February 17, 2024 at 10:39 pm

    Karen Kuykendall at the Mew-seum! — now there’s an sf convention flashback. I bought a copy of her Tarot of the Cat People deck back when we assumed it would be a one-off printing…

    Joelle knows you pretty well, or I’d say someone should warn her to check your pockets before you leave the Mew-seum, because whatever the rescue people tell you I’m pretty sure she does *not* want a couple of adorable kittens to keep the dogs occupied once you and Steve and Maxwell decamp back to West Virginia!

  9. 9.

    eclare

    February 17, 2024 at 10:44 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Yes, someone should definitely check John’s pockets before he leaves CATFEST.

  10. 10.

    Jackie

    February 17, 2024 at 10:49 pm

    My first thought was Catfest meant a catfish eating festival. Second immediate thought was; In ARIZONA???!! LOL

  11. 11.

    Jackie

    February 17, 2024 at 10:56 pm

    @Jackie: In my defense, you were discussing restaurants and foods, after all 🤷🏼‍♀️

  12. 12.

    Anne Laurie

    February 17, 2024 at 11:01 pm

    @eclare: Since he’ll be wearing either cargo shorts or overalls, there will be a LOT of kitten-sized pockets to check…

  13. 13.

    eclare

    February 17, 2024 at 11:01 pm

    @Jackie:

    Hahaha…fair point.  And it is Lent, lots of fish specials.

  14. 14.

    Prescott Cactus

    February 17, 2024 at 11:01 pm

    John,

    I’m jealous. Tacos Chiwa, go hungry with an empty feed bag.

    Their pastor is great !

    The big Mex chain here was started by two grade school friends. A former  hedge fund manager from New York and a guy who worked in wholesale and retail fashion.

    Think Taco Bell without the . . . great recipes and ambiance

  15. 15.

    different-church-lady

    February 17, 2024 at 11:03 pm

    and was thusly informed that “Joelle does” so I guess we were on a Pizza hut/taco bell dinner/hot date.

    It’s so obvious you two adore each other. 😀

  16. 16.

    Another Scott

    February 17, 2024 at 11:13 pm

    Circling back to one of the SuperBowl threads…

    Hoodlum 🇺🇸
    @NotHoodlum

    $18 on Temu, $400+ on Grandpa Rico.

    [ image ]

    [ rofl! ]

    (via JoJoFromJerz)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  17. 17.

    eclare

    February 17, 2024 at 11:14 pm

    @Another Scott:

    The link didn’t work for me.

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    February 17, 2024 at 11:14 pm

    Such a shame what has become of Pizza Hut. Never anywhere close to top tier but was for a long while reliably acceptable enough.

    Double ditto for KFC.

  19. 19.

    Another Scott

    February 17, 2024 at 11:15 pm

    @eclare: Sorry.  Try it now.  :-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    February 17, 2024 at 11:22 pm

    Speaking of shameful.

    Blech to da max.

  21. 21.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 17, 2024 at 11:24 pm

    Murder Van pretty much sums up ‘murica.

  22. 22.

    karl

    February 17, 2024 at 11:25 pm

    As an earlier commenter recommended: get the combo at Luke’s — although you can’t go wrong with anything, really. Wet or dry is up to you (I also prefer dry).

    Chiwas is very good, but out here, almost any Mexican place is worth hopping into (there are some duds, though, but don’t blame me if you get unlucky).

  23. 23.

    eclare

    February 17, 2024 at 11:25 pm

    @Another Scott:

    Hahaha, back atcha..

    twitter.com/MarkAgee/status/1758977477219856861

    Comments are great.

  24. 24.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 17, 2024 at 11:56 pm

    What about hot dancing dates?

  25. 25.

    Prescott Cactus

    February 17, 2024 at 11:57 pm

    @NotMax:

    KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell were under the Pepsi umbrella of Yum Foods until it became obvious to them the that other fast food restaurants wouldn’t purchase Pepsi fountain drinks because it was helping their competitors.

    Poof ! Spin off shares to Pepsi shareholders and anybody who wanted a pure fast food investment. . .

  26. 26.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 17, 2024 at 11:59 pm

    Luke’s Italian Beef and Sausage Sandwiches

    You must go there at least once.  This Chicagoan needs a review. 😋😋😋😁

    ETA – I see you are already committed.  Excellent.  Mr. Burns hand gesture!

  27. 27.

    Alison Rose

    February 18, 2024 at 12:09 am

    @NotMax: LOL of course they’re fucking gold.

  28. 28.

    TBone

    February 18, 2024 at 12:37 am

    é@Alison Rose: gold lamé, as in lame with an accent.

    (I just figured out how to use special characters not by accident.)

  29. 29.

    wjca

    February 18, 2024 at 12:39 am

    @WaterGirl: My money is on Joelle, except that Cole has months back in WV where he can backslide, so on second thought, I’m not sure which way I would lay that bet.

    Look at it as two steps forward, one step back.  It may take longer, but the end result is not really in question.

  30. 30.

    glc

    February 18, 2024 at 12:58 am

    A US soldier killed two at Mount Fuji. So why must Japan apologise?

    The BBC has a habit of revising its link texts without comment. This one may well change.  In any case the story is interesting. The actual title of the piece is
    Ridge Alkonis: The sailor who stoked Japanese resentment against the US

  31. 31.

    Alison Rose

    February 18, 2024 at 1:14 am

    @glc: I’m…confused. Why the hell were Tapper and Biden and others acting like this man had been wronged in some massive way? He struck and killed two people with his car and was given three years in jail, which, despite whatever the fuck “mountain sickness” is, sure sounds like a deserved and reasonable punishment. But they’re acting like he was Brittany fucking Griner or something. And the photo of a damn protest demanding his release…like…is vehicular manslaughter suddenly not a crime anywhere so long as you weren’t feeling good??

  32. 32.

    wjca

    February 18, 2024 at 1:19 am

    @Alison Rose: is vehicular manslaughter suddenly not a crime anywhere so long as you weren’t feeling good??

    Depemds on who and where you are.  If you’re an American (or anybody else) and here, it’s definitely a crime.  It’s manslaughter with a gun that often gets a pass — at least if you are the right race and/or profession (e.g. law enforcement).

  33. 33.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 1:21 am

    Happy birthday to John Travolta, who is now 70.

  34. 34.

    eclare

    February 18, 2024 at 1:32 am

    @sab:

    Happy Birthday Danny Zuko!

    youtu.be/Llysp8hdr7k?si=XiapILRS4SgA4_vC

  35. 35.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 18, 2024 at 1:32 am

    @sab: Seriously?  So he was younger than 40 while making Pulp Fiction?  Damn!

  36. 36.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 1:35 am

    @sab: I only care because we have the same birthday. Since I was born in the wee hours my guess is I am slightly older.

    I always mention his birthday to deflect attention from my own. I hate birthdays, but I am excited to be officially old by any definition.

  37. 37.

    eclare

    February 18, 2024 at 1:35 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Exactly 40, Pulp Fiction was released in 1994.

    Eta> so I guess he was younger making the movie, but close to 40.

  38. 38.

    eclare

    February 18, 2024 at 1:36 am

    @sab:

    Happy Birthday!

  39. 39.

    wjca

    February 18, 2024 at 1:43 am

    @sab:  I hate birthdays, but I am excited to be officially old by any definition.

    Bad news.  From my perspective, you still count as a young whippersnapper.  :-)  But Happy Birthday nonetheless.

    So does anyone who has no memory of going out of an evening to watch Sputnik I pass overhead.

  40. 40.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 1:45 am

    @eclare: I don’t think it is official until 3 am.

    My mother had relatively easy quick labors. I was born in a hospital elevator on the way to the delivery room, because my dad insisted that she was actually going into labor. Mom didn’t think so.

    My stepsons on the other hand were each born after 24+ hours of labor, after which their mom almost went into actual shock. Almost died.

    But of course pregnancy and birth is no big deal according to the religious nutcase brigade.

  41. 41.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 1:46 am

    @wjca: My dad turned 99 last August.

  42. 42.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 1:49 am

    @wjca: I used to watch satellites when I was a kid in Florida. I live in Ohio now where the skies are cloudy all day and all night, and we have trees everywhere too.

  43. 43.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 1:56 am

    @sab: I still miss the Florida sunrises and sunsets. In NE Ohio the sky just gets light and dark with not much visible fanfare.

  44. 44.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 18, 2024 at 2:07 am

    @eclare: Holy cow!  And also, Yes, We Have No Bananas!

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 18, 2024 at 2:12 am

    @wjca: I hesitate to ask about the Moon landing(s).  And I’m not on your lawn! 😁

  46. 46.

    cain

    February 18, 2024 at 2:33 am

    @NotMax:

    Fucking AI. Destroying everything.

  47. 47.

    wjca

    February 18, 2024 at 2:34 am

    @sab: My dad turned 99 last August.

    So for him, *I* count as a “young whippersnapper”.  I can live with that.

  48. 48.

    cain

    February 18, 2024 at 2:36 am

    @wjca:

    Women can control you from afar. My wife is in India for over 20 days. I was told that if she can’t drink alcohol neither can I. And well.. yep, not a drop for over 10 days. Also I must call during 2x a day. At least

    Oh well at least I can still do cannabis and watch action movies !

  49. 49.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 2:36 am

    Three years ago we accepted my stepdaughter’s cat. He had grown up in an abusive household and he was a frightened always angry and scary cat. We agreed to house and feed him and thought it would be a very long haul with this monster in our house.

    Three years later with kindness, the little feline monster has become a silly doofus.

    He is right now asleep on my chest. He still has all his claws but he never uses them. He lives peaceably with four other cats, a pitbull and two people.

  50. 50.

    cain

    February 18, 2024 at 2:37 am

    @sab:

    Whoa..

  51. 51.

    cain

    February 18, 2024 at 2:39 am

    @sab: awww.. that’s a wonderful story !

    I’m tired after an epic house clean to get my lady cat to stop peeing. It’s almost a surety that we will need to replace the carpets. Sigh

  52. 52.

    Jay

    February 18, 2024 at 2:48 am

    @cain:

    dilute orange cleaner. Soak it into the underlay. Stomp on towels to soak it up.

    Cat’s and dogs will “mark” spots where there is urine. The orange cleaner breaks the urine down, and the residual smell prevents remarking.

  53. 53.

    wjca

    February 18, 2024 at 2:50 am

    @mrmoshpotato: I hesitate to ask about the Moon landing(s).  And I’m not on your lawn!

    I certainly remember watching the first one from my college dorm.  As the song so accurately put it:

    “the world all stopped to watch, on a July afternoon,
    Watched a man named Armstrong walk upon the moon.”

    It sure seemed that everybody I knew did.

    There is no lawn (water conservation, you know), just wood chips surrounding an oak tree.  So there’s no way for you to be on my (nonexistent) lawn.  Sorry.

    You are, however, welcome to walk across my front yard.  I’ve never quite understood people who get exercised about neighborhood kids running around.  What’s the problem???

  54. 54.

    Jay

    February 18, 2024 at 2:56 am

    @wjca:

    The Moon Landings were faked.

    However, Stanley Kubrick, who filmed them ,was such a perfectionist, that he demanded they be shot on location.

  55. 55.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 2:57 am

    @wjca: You are older than me. I was fifteen.

  56. 56.

    eclare

    February 18, 2024 at 3:00 am

    @sab:

    Sweet.

  57. 57.

    opiejeanne

    February 18, 2024 at 3:34 am

    @wjca: I don’t remember seeing Sputnik fly over when I was a kid, but I do remember seeing Echo I, or maybe it was Echo II. I can’t seem to find anyone who remembers that.

  58. 58.

    opiejeanne

    February 18, 2024 at 3:41 am

    @wjca: I watched the moon landing in my college dorm common area, too. We didn’t have a tv in our room, heck, we didn’t even have phones in our rooms yet. There was a pay phone in the stairwell on all three stories. It was a primitive time.

  59. 59.

    NotMax

    February 18, 2024 at 4:02 am

    @wjca

    Guilty. Also able to listen to it on one of them newfangled transistor radios.

  60. 60.

    Juju

    February 18, 2024 at 4:13 am

    @wjca: I wasn’t born yet. I guess that qualifies.

  61. 61.

    LiminalOwl

    February 18, 2024 at 6:47 am

    @sab: Awww.  I love that story.

    Unrelated: sandalwood and bourbon soap brings joy to my mornings.

  62. 62.

    LiminalOwl

    February 18, 2024 at 6:50 am

    (Accidental duplicate deleted)

  63. 63.

    LiminalOwl

    February 18, 2024 at 6:55 am

    @wjca: Suddenly, I feel young!

    I was nine. We were on vacation, staying in a house near the beach in Provincetown. My father took me out to see the nighttime high tide, and explained the connection between full moon and highest tides.

    I wanted to become an astronaut, but my parents told me I didn’t want any career associated with the military-industrial complex.

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    February 18, 2024 at 7:41 am

    @sab:

    Happy birthday to you! 🎉 🎊 🥂 🎂

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack

    February 18, 2024 at 7:45 am

    @sab:

    Is that Dobby?

  66. 66.

    frosty

    February 18, 2024 at 7:56 am

    Joelle loves these kinds of places- modern and hip with fancy cocktails with big names…

    Aha! This explains why she had creme de violette in the house. I’m still impressed you even knew what an Aviation was, much less how to make it.

    Ms F’s pandemic hobby was mixology. We like to find these places too but they are few and far between. Most house specialty cocktails are different kinds of fruit juice.

  67. 67.

    frosty

    February 18, 2024 at 8:05 am

    @sab: So you’re saying Ohio won’t be the best place to see the eclipse in April? Oh well. I didn’t want to go to Texas so I decided to gamble and got camping reservations in a state park. We saw the totality in 2017 and it was awe-inspiring.

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    February 18, 2024 at 8:18 am

    @frosty: Dobby is the her niece’s dog who lives in a foreign country.  Pretty sure I have that right.

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    February 18, 2024 at 8:22 am

    @WaterGirl:

    I will check when I get on the computer. I have it written down there.

  70. 70.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 8:31 am

    @Steeplejack: That is Dobby.

  71. 71.

    Steeplejack

    February 18, 2024 at 8:45 am

    @sab:

    I’m glad he’s doing well. I have loved his story.

  72. 72.

    sab

    February 18, 2024 at 9:23 am

    @frosty: Cedar Point (historic amusement park near Lake Erie) is selling Eclipse Day tickets.

    If you aren’t supposed to look directly at the sun then who cares if it’s cloudy. When it goes dark it will be dark clouds or no.

  73. 73.

    S Cerevisiae

    February 18, 2024 at 9:25 am

    @frosty: I drove from Minnesota to Wyoming for the 2017 eclipse, I had been waiting 38 years for a total eclipse I could drive to. We have an RV reserved for a week around the eclipse and as much as we don’t want to, Texas has the best odds for clear skies in early April. Fortunately my liberal sister and her family live west of Austin on the line of totality and will get 3 minutes if we just stay there and avoid the epic traffic jam that will happen afterwards. She has a small place but it has room to park so the RV is basically an expensive spare bedroom and our insurance in case of a cloudy forecast to run north or south on the line if necessary.

  74. 74.

    lowtechcyclist

    February 18, 2024 at 10:12 am

    Coming in way late (yesterday was a busy afternoon/evening, been online only briefly since 1pm yesterday), but just wanted to say I’d go in a heartbeat to either of those places you pointed out, Cole. But I’d still want to go to the Italian ice place for dessert.

    And yeah, fuck the GQP every which way with rusty farm implements. For what they’re doing to Ukraine, and for what they’re doing to America. And fuck people who identify as Christians who support their crap.

  75. 75.

    glc

    February 18, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    killed two people

    Not people – Japanese.

    That, at least, is the message received.  But from a politician’s perspective, it’s just campaigning.  Whatever the advisers think will work.

    Meanwhile, as anticipated, the link text has been rewritten to be more sensible.

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