Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

People are complicated. Love is not.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Republican also-rans: four mules fighting over a turnip.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Don’t expect peaches from an apple tree.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

And we’re all out of bubblegum.

The gop is a fucking disgrace.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

After dobbs, women are no longer free.

Never give a known liar the benefit of the doubt.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

In after Baud. Damn.

Motown is Joe-Town!

There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

Consistently wrong since 2002

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

SCOTUS: It’s not “bribery” unless it comes from the Bribery region of France. Otherwise, it’s merely “sparkling malfeasance”.

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Sunday Evening Open Thread: What Passes for Bold Leadership Among ‘Moderate’ Repubs

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The voice of the modern ‘sensible’ Republican, folks: We’ll get in line like good little toadies, but trust us — we’ll cheat on Dear Leader like we cheat on everything else!

(I rag on the ‘Live Free or Die Equivocating’ state… and NH leaders like the Sununu clan make it damned easy.)

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  2. 2.

    TBone

    Moar catnip

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-desantis-epstein/

    DeathSantis has released the kraken! 😆

    There is no public figure more connected to Jeffrey Epstein than Donald Trump. It was at his personal home that Epstein recruited his victims. The most famous of those victims was a child employee of Trump. She worked at the ‘spa’ at Mar-a-Lago.

  5. 5.

    Anne Laurie

    @Villago Delenda Est: Cowardly spineless git.

    Nah, Sununu is Milo Minderbinder made (considerable) flesh — one in the family line of smug Milo Minderbinders.  They’re proud to prosper by taking advantage of the mindless bureaucracy of government; it’s not their problem when less nimble non-Sununus are crushed by that same rumbling bureaucracy!

  7. 7.

    Shalimar

    Chris Sununu is all about the Sununu party.  All he cares about is preserving his chance in 2028.

  8. 8.

    hrprogressive

    Again, the idea of there being anything but a completely Fascist Republican Party should be dead and buried by now.

    Every single one of them – every. last. one. of. them. – would have been perfectly fine had January 6th been a successful coup, and Trump seized power.

    The only problem any of them have with Trump and his Coup are that they were not successful in their goal of seizing power.

    Everyone who maintains an (R) next to their name is either blatantly “All in” on the idea of being part of the fascist takeover of the united states, or for maybe a select few like the “MSNBC Republicans”, they are all thoroughly deluded into the idea that there will ever exist a viable, non-fascist version of the GOP ever again, and that they would love to be part of the “Tip & Ronnie” GOP that Chris Matthews could never shut his fucking mouth about that they desperately hope to will into existence out of the ashes of the Trumpist Party.

    Here’s a newflash Olivia, Tim, Mike Steel, et. al – It’s all dead and gone. Your choice is to align with the flawed, but still-believes-in-representative-small-d-democracy Democratic Party, or you will be persecuted along with every other “RINO” or “unbeliever” should Trump and his goons ever succeed.

  10. 10.

    JML

    Classic GOP. “I think this is totally wrong, but I’ll support the people pushing it anyways.” Party and power before all. Weak and spineless, Sununu is just riding the family name. And some point even NH will get tired of it. (I hope)

  11. 11.

    Jackie

    E. Jean Carroll responds to Nancy Mace’s ugly accusations:

    First, she thanked Stephanopoulos for repeatedly pushing back against Mace on air.

    “Thank you, [Stephanopoulos] for valiantly defending me,” she wrote Sunday.

    Then, she turned her attention toward the South Carolina lawmaker and potential vice presidential nominee pick for Trump.

    “I wish Representative [Mace] well,” the columnist wrote. “And I salute all survivors for their strength, endurance, and holding on to their sanity.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mace-carroll-gracious-response/

    Kudos to E. Jean. She is a class act!👍🏻

  12. 12.

    Urza

    @Villago Delenda Est: All Republicans now are cowardly spineless gits, just some are true believers and grifters in their own right, while a few actually do know better but have never had the courage to fight any bully, just pick on the less fortunate.

  14. 14.

    Jackie

    @lollipopguild: 💯 correct.

    Sununu fits the mold of McConnell and all anti-TIFG GQP – until they aren’t. Party Before Country bumperstickers should be plastered on their vehicles.

  15. 15.

    Yutsano

    So wait:

    Chris Sununu doesn’t think Dolt45 can win a year ago…

    Now endorses Dolt45 for President.

    He doesn’t really look like the sort of guy who could do a backflip like that. Yet, once again, here we all are anyway. They all will kiss his ring. They will all bend the knee. Even Haley is going to do it. Because his core cult is in total control.

    I’d bother to be disgusted, but why? They have all made choices. They are choosing poorly, but it’s not a shock. It’s not even a surprise at this point.

  16. 16.

    Jackie

    @hrprogressive: Those “MSNBC Republicans” you are so divisive of are openly supporting AND VOTING FOR Biden. And working hard to get other Pro Country republicans and  Independents to join them.

    We Dems say we are a big tent and ALL are welcome. So quit with your pissing from inside the tent attitude.

  17. 17.

    Jay C

    @lollipopguild:

    “What I am saying is that I am a spineless, gutless, amoral idiot.”

    Quite true: but I guess one minor shine of a silver lining is that Sununu’s endorsement sounds a bit formulaic and half-hearted. And not the statement of an official who is planning to go out and bust his backside to get the Chosen One elected….

  18. 18.

    Another Scott

    Made me look… NewHampshireBulletin.com (from February 24):

    Sununu will be giving his last State of the State address. He announced last year he would not be running for re-election this November.

    Maggie Hassan (D) was elected to the Senate in 2022. So it would be 2028 until the next election for that seat. Jeanne Shaheen (D) was elected in 2020. So maybe he’s thinking about running for her seat. (I haven’t checked.)

    The fact that he isn’t running in November would have given him an opening to stand up and oppose fascism at almost no cost. He didn’t. That shows everyone who cares to look where he stands.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  20. 20.

    The Red Pen

    I saw a book called “Profiles in Courage” on Amazon. I assumed it was about the contemporary Republican party, but surprisingly, it was not. Huh.

  30. 30.

    Jackie

    @azlib: Even more intriguing, this morning on MSNBC, Lisa Reuben said Judge Kaplan gave E. Jean Carroll the prerogative to refuse the bond if they don’t trust the bonder.🤔

    I guess we’ll learn more about this tomorrow.

  32. 32.

    Another Scott

    @Anoniminous: Heh.  He said “1%”.  ;-)

    Made me look.

    NFP.com:

    How much do appeal bonds cost?

    These types of sureties are normally much larger than the judgment amount to cover future possible expenses, such as court costs, interest, and attorney’s fees. Though rates vary by state, all require only a portion of the full surety amount to secure them. Premiums typically range from 1 percent – 2 percent of the entire bond amount.

    So, TIFG probably had to pay $1-2M for the $91+ M bond.

    What if I lose my appeal?

    If you lose your appeal, either you or the surety will pay the courts the full bond amount, including the amount of any judgment. If you are unable to pay, the collateral you presented upon purchasing the bond will be seized and signed over to the complainant. In cases where the surety pays the full bond amount and you must repay the surety, failure to pay the surety will result in a surety taking the assets and could result in further judgment.

    The decision to appeal a case should not be taken lightly. Appellate cases can take years to be fully heard and can be hard to win. Supersedeas bonds ensure that the litigant is serious about the appeals process and that the complainant can be made whole should the appellate court rule in the complainant’s favor.

    Although bond premiums are non-refundable, they are typically less expensive than pursuing the return of a paid judgment that has been reversed by a higher court.

    Let’s see if he can scrounge up $5-10M in cash for the NY fraud judgement appeal bond. I’m guessing that it’ll be pretty hard, and the premiums might be much higher…

    [ womp, womp ]

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  33. 33.

    karen marie

    @Jackie:   Just because they claim they’ll vote for Biden doesn’t mean they’re not absolute trash.  I could go through the list individually but we both know the kind of bankrupt policies they’re pushing despite their claim that they’ll vote for Biden.

  34. 34.

    Chetan Murthy

    I knew this piece-of-shit Sununu would always get in line to eat TFG’s shit, no questions asked.  Always knew it, since I saw this: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/nonsense-jen-psaki-and-chris-sununu-clash-over-russian-collusion-narrative/

    The conversation began with Psaki asking Sununu if the myriad ongoing investigations into Trump — and possible additional impending indictments of the former president — would harm his political prospects.

    Sununu responded, impassionedly, in the negative:

    No, no! No, no no. Obviously they don’t. They absolutely don’t matter, no. These indictments, and if I may, accommodation of the media, you’re creating the boy who cried wolf syndrome, right? What happened in New York was wrong. I mean it really was. They’re beating up on Trump for political reasons and everybody sees that. What happened with the Russian “collusion” that never existed effectively exonerated the guy so he can play a victim card. You’ve all created a situation where, what kind of planet are we on where Donald Trump’s become the victim?

    At that point, Psaki interjected to object.
    “I have to stop you on there because we know very clearly that Putin and the Kremlin did intervene in our election in order to try to help Donald Trump back in 2016. So we know that is true,” said the former Democratic operative. “But you may think that they shouldn’t engage in this as a messaging tool because it’s not helpful to them. Is that what you’re saying?”
    Sununu replied by explaining that he was “not gonna relitigate, you know, the Russian collusion nonsense that went on for two years where-” when Psaki interrupted again:

    PSAKI: You don’t need to relitigate, It’s been litigated! By lawyers and investigations.”

    SUNUNU: Yeah, yeah it’s nonsense.

    PSAKI: That’s arguably not true, but continue.

    SUNUNU: Yeah but nobody buys that any attack on Trump is anything but political. You’ve created, everyone has kind of created this scenario and he is playing it to the fullest. He is playing the violin strings better than anyone imagined, which is why his poll numbers, miraculously, are actually going up.

    He’s defending a traitor: the idea that he wouldn’t endorse that traitor is ludicrous.

  36. 36.

    Jackie

    @karen marie: Just curious; do you watch MSNBC?

    Because the former or anti Trumpers I’ve observed don’t fit your description.

    Except maybe John Kasich – who I wish wasn’t included. Thankfully he’s not on very often.

  37. 37.

    TBone

    @karen marie: since I don’t have an account, I never see anything but the original postings (no replies, no irrelevant natzis).  But yeah, it’s a creepy feeling.

  38. 38.

    karen marie

    @Jackie: A: No, I don’t watch MSNBC – I do not have cable and their interface for watching online sucks massive balls.  B, the people under discussion are fucking Republicans.  Wake me when they leave the party.  Until then, they’re fucking assholes

    @TBone:  Same here.   I’m so glad to be on Mastodon.

  40. 40.

    linnen

    Never Trump Republicans are against the optics of Trump. Not against the Politics, Policies and Judges they used Trump to get. Only against the crudity of his language, not the language itself. They have only so much ‘Thoughts and Prayers’ to offer.

    They ‘plan’ on voting against Trump. Maybe they will. They still have 20+ years of conservative actions to make up for.

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