Shoulder is doing much better, thank you. Significant increase in range of motion, lot less pain, and I went to the gym and walk some laps and then had a long soak in the jacuzzi. Or is it a hot tub? Which one has jets? Or they just different words for the same thing?
At any rate, I’m at that weird stage where it is healing but on the inside it still hurts in a stingy, itchy, sharp pang kind of way, with the ever present low throb. Does that make sense? Regardless, I think I will be swimming laps again by early next week, so all in all I feel pretty lucky.
In other news, we had a big windstorm and rain storm, and apparently the door to Rosie’s room got opened. I only noticed when I heard Maxwell and Rosie screaming at each other. I managed to separate them, but I have no idea where Rosie went, and she is currently on the loose. Guess they got tired of me fucking around and fate decided to integrate them ahead of my schedule.
Side-note: I walked upstairs after separating them and saw Steve sitting on his bed underneath my desk. We made eye contact and he just shook his head. Damned kids.
In other news, I guess the mob front is no longer needed:
A contributor for Tenet Media announced on Twitter Thursday night that the company has abruptly shuttered, one day after the Department of Justice unsealed an indictment that accused it of being covertly funded by employees of a Russian state-controlled media outlet. Tayler Hansen, a self-described “field reporter” for the outlet, wrote that Tenet “has ended after the DOJ indictment.”
Most illegal operations shutter after the indictments, so this is not surprising. Adios, dicks.
So I guess both Cheneys are voting for Harris, and I see idiots saying Kamala should say something and tell the war criminal to get fucked. These are also the same people who find performative morality to be more important than winning and governing, so here is my advice to Kamala Harris on this issue- “Don’t say anything about it” and if someone asks you roll your eyes and move on.
So many people don’t understand the value in shutting up. Why say anything when you can just shut the fuck up? Obama understood this.
Speaking of shutting the fuck up, I am off to the recliner to play my nightly game of “what the fuck was I watching last night?”
TTYL.
twbrandt
Glad you are feeling better, JC. And I completely agree with you about the Cheneys.
Other MJS
Nominated for rotating tag line.
Baud
You’re welcome.
Ruckus
@Other MJS:
Seconded!
Chief Oshkosh
Glad to hear that you’re still on the mend, John.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Given Darth Cheney’s announcement, there should be a zoom call to raise money under the title:
“Guys Who Shoot Lawyers For Harris”
Of course Cheney will now fully understand what it means to vote Dem in a blood-red state.
Spanky
I’m not sure, but I’m kinda hoping “TTYL” is “Ta ta, ya losers”.
Elizabelle
Glad you are feeling better, JC.
Being a mean girl and enjoying this video of the Saline, Arkansas GOP meeting. The music is perfect. I think Humboldt Blue (?) put this tweet up on an earlier thread.
zhena gogolia
We’re watching the BeeGees documentary someone on here recommended. It’s great.
SuzieC
Does anyone think the Bush family will follow the Cheneys?
agorabum
Obama was good at talking about normal, popular stuff and shutting up about more controversial items (in his campaigns eapecially). He could ignore interest groups that demanded more extreme positions.
If Harris is asked, it is easy to pivot and say “a lot of people, including a lot of Republicans, have seen how dangerous and unfit Trump is, especially after Jamiary 6”
Quaker in a Basement
Wisdom comes with age. Sometimes.
trollhattan
Our water heater is nine years old. Warranted for six. You already know where this is going.
Hot water service ceased Sunday during dinner dishes. A look at it revealed the control box row of LEDs displaying a pattern. Book taped to heater reveals “ignition/flame failure.” Reset causes three tries to light then the same display.
Ugh.
Long story shortened today’s plumber can’t ID the problem any more than I can, advises nobody in town carries parts for this brand, suggests replacing Part 1 of several suspect parts. I ordered one, which is coming from Jersey sometime next week.
Regional AQMD requires low NOX gas heaters so this one has an ultra efficient burner and vent blower motor and many, many parts. The blower assembly alone costs more than the heater did. And nobody really knows what’s wrong because it’s now stuck on “self diagnostic check.”
“What would a properly sized tankless cost, tops?”
“Mmmm, about six grand.”
Shoot me.
Other MJS
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Baud suggested he take Drumpf quail-hunting.
SpaceUnit
So if the Kremlin is paying millions to a bunch of knobs that nobody’s heard of, how much are they paying actual GOP politicians?
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan: I think the most expensive one at our store is about 1500.
SatanicPanic
Glad the shoulder is doing better
TS
If it hasn’t been mentioned
From the wonderful Alexandra Petri
gift link – wapo.st/3z9n1Lu
MobiusKlein
@Spanky:
Talk
To
You
Later
lowtechcyclist
My wife and I had lunch at BJ’s Brewhouse in Bowie today, and she had something called the “Enlightened Mediterranean Chicken Bowl.” I hadn’t known food could experience enlightenment. After satori,
chop wood and draw waterget eaten.We’re in the process of looking for a new car for her. We’ve settled on what make, model, etc. (fully loaded Honda CR-V), so the next step is going to be the actual buying, which might happen as soon as Monday. So if people have tips on negotiating on the price of a new car, they would be welcome. We have taken test drives at two different dealerships, so presumably we could use that as leverage. Also, we aren’t doing a trade-in; the kiddo, who just got his license, gets her old car.
Anoniminous
@Elizabelle:
Bunch of wusses. Real Men™ would have hauled out the AR-15s and commenced blasting.
Harrison Wesley
Why bother saying anything? Trump does enough talking for a dozen people. It’s all gibberish, but there’s lots of it.
Joy in FL
I’m glad your shoulder is healing.
Keeping my mouth shut is a super power I wield to my advantage.
oldster
“These are also the same people who find performative morality to be more important than winning and governing, so here is my advice to Kamala Harris on this issue- “Don’t say anything about it” and if someone asks you roll your eyes and move on.
So many people don’t understand the value in shutting up. Why say anything when you can just shut the fuck up? Obama understood this.”
I’m with you, John. I’ll take winning over performative expression any time. And the more you have to lose in this election, the more you’ll do to win. Even if it means shutting up.
MobiusKlein
@SpaceUnit: Good question. Might be the folks higher up get paid in power, not cash.
Jay
@trollhattan:
Option A. Shut the power off for half an hour, turn power back on, retry the start. A lot of computer controlled appliances get “brain farts”. Killing power for 30 minutes force the computer to reboot to the factory settings when the power is turned back on.
Like an idiot, when customers would call with an appliance problem, this was always the first thing I would tell them to do, rather than charge them $350 for a service call and $100 an hour for every part hour over the first hour, only to do the same thing.
Option B, clean the jet.
prostratedragon
@SuzieC: Quite sure they’ll vote the same. Less sure whether any will say it out loud.
rikyrah
Get better, Cole🙏🏽🤗
geg6
@zhena gogolia:
Enjoy! I loved it but it’s also pretty sad..
geg6
@SuzieC:
My sister and I were wondering the same thing.
Jeffro
when concern for the country and its future unites Dick Cheney and AOC…maybe, just maybe voters ought to pay attention. just sayin’
SpaceUnit
@MobiusKlein:
I think the GOP and rightwing media are all rotten with Russian influence. Treasonous bastards.
Jay
@MobiusKlein:
Most of the higher up’s get paid in Campaign donations and PAC contributions laundered through ruZZian controlled US Companies and Investment Groups, along with excessive speaking fees to ruZZian Front Orgs.
Scout211
That’s about $4k more than it should cost with installation. Is this a reputable company? Seems sketchy. Or maybe that’s your point?
scav
There’s also possibly the Mind Your Own Damn Business icing to the basic eyeroll cake.
SuzieC
@prostratedragon: I read that they were laying low to preserve the political viability of George P. Bush in Texas. However, since he lost his own party’s nomination for TX AG (by a landslide to that asshole Paxton IIRC) that reasoning is no longer valid. We’ll see.
zhena gogolia
@geg6: Well, I know it doesn’t end well.
There are all these great songs I never knew about. “Mr. Natural”! How did I miss “I Can’t See Nobody”?
Pete Downunder
In an uncertain situation nothing is often the right thing to do, and always the right thing to say. Not sure where that came from but it’s excellent advice.
geg6
@zhena gogolia:
Long career, lots of songs. It’s easy to miss a few, depending on what was going on in your life.
Jay
@TS:
The technical term is “Sanewashing”,
jefftiedrich.com/p/elderly-golfer-in-serious-cognitive
newrepublic.com/article/185530/media-criticism-trump-sanewashing-problem
Jackie
@SuzieC:
I’m fairly confident they’ll VOTE for Harris.
As to endorsing, only time will tell.
I’d like to see Condoleezza Rice endorse Harris.
Has there been a public comment/tweet from TCFG re the Cheneys?
2liberal
talk to you later
FDRLincoln
I look at the Cheneys the same way I look at Rick Wilson: sometimes you have to temporarily ally with Stalin to beat Hitler.
They are still Lawful Evil and can’t be trusted in the long run. But that’s still better than Chaotic Evil.
Anoniminous
The Country Club Republicans are extinct.
The Republican Coalition — Pew Research November 9, 2021
Jay
@Scout211:
Most tankless installations require electrical, gas supply, venting and plumbing upgrades over a tank heater. Most gas tankless require a 3/4″ gas line from the main supply, most electrics require 240V/30AMP electrical because both have to heat water very quickly with a constant flow of incoming cold water, which a tank heater doesn’t have to do, and won’t do, as anyone with teenagers can testify.
Gin & Tonic
Almost Wittgensteinian.
Ruckus
@Quaker in a Basement:
That sometimes is doing a hell of a lot of work.
I live in a seniors – 55+ complex. Now we are in CA so it’s a bit more on the liberal side than some parts of the country – but.
Wisdom comes with age? Maybe middle age 35 to maybe 60. After that a lot is sealed in. Before that learning may be taking place. But true human learning, about people and how to live with them, around them without being an ass? I think that is built in slowly, over time, but it also takes someone who actually wants to learn better, and is shown well from a young age.
Because humans are animals and most have a reasonable survival instinct, as most animals do. But pompous arrogance is also a learned thing. Being an ass is a learned thing. Survival is a learned thing. Being better is a desire – and a learned thing. Some are poor learners. Some are fast learners. Some are incapable. And many have poor examples to learn from or excuses not to learn or not to get better.
Life is a process, like everything else, if done reasonably it can be good, if done poorly it rarely is. And there are roadblocks and detours and some that have zero regard for anyone else.
The former has been brought to you by an old fart that learned early, you get what you sow. If you sow shit…..
CaseyL
\@Jeffro:
It is kind of “over the precipice, into the waterfall” territory, isn’t it? An alliance of necessity only, like allying with the USSR in WWII (and commencing eternal enmity right afterward).
I keep thinking about the people who are low-info but reliable voters, who “pull the lever” (fill in the bubble) for the GOP candidate in every election because they always have and they’ve never thought about it. Maybe seeing the calvacade of GOPers endorsing Harris-Walz will make an impression on those folks.
SuzieC
@CaseyL: That’s what I think. It gives them permission to venture out of their hard wired Republican bunker.
BR
@Jeffro:
And it sets up a nice argument one on one with folks who are undecided. “You’re probably more conservative than AOC, right? And probably more liberal than Dick Cheney, right? Well both AOC and Dick Cheney support Harris because they recognize what’s at stake in this election.”
Prescott Cactus
@lowtechcyclist:
Costco car buying service ? Not all makes are signed onto program.
Thylacine
First episode of the new season of Slow Horses is fantastic.
catclub
That money probably comes through the NRA and associated superpacs.
frosty
@Other MJS: Thirded! (OK, I didn’t read all the comments. This could actually be Seventh!!)
Soprano2
@trollhattan: I paid around $1900 for one installed. If you can install it yourself it’s much cheaper, but I can’t do that anymore.
catclub
maybe they turn on an extra light when they make it.
frosty
@lowtechcyclist: I tried to negotiate the price of a used car I found on the internet: “We’ve looked at pricing. This is what we settled on.” OK. I argued that my trade-in, my Mom’s old Mercury Sable, was worth more than they were offering, based on condition, age, mileage, etc. Response: “This is going straight to the scrapyard, so we’ll give you $500.”
Good luck!
Jackie
@Jackie: TCFG heard:
catclub
Which Democrat gets assigned the job of convincing them?
I am surprised that it appears more likely the Bushes would petulantly say the Democrats were mean to them once and could not do it than Dick Cheney. I would have guessed Cheney on that one.
Barbara
@Other MJS:
Totally concur. There are an increasing number of subjects where I think my most valuable contribution is to shut up and LISTEN, starting with the experience of people who have historically been marginalized.
The Thin Black Duke
@Thylacine: It’s already been renewed for a fifth season.
BethanyAnne
Before I talk to the dealership, I talk to my credit union. I’ve belonged to a few that offered car buying services. You say what you want, they get it for you at a set price below list.
Scout211
@Jay: I defer to the expert (you). It makes sense that it would cost more if installation requires retrofitting the gas lines, electrical and venting.
catclub
This parallels the argument that April Glaspie was responsible for the invasion of Kuwait, not Saddam Hussein.
SuzieC
@Jackie: He’s citing Scooter Libby? Who is the voting bloc outraged by the mistreatment of Scooter Libby?
BethanyAnne
About Obama and shutting up – remember the Henry Louis Gates incident? Obama called the cops foolish or something, and the press blew it up? I was watching Pod Save America a couple of weeks ago, and Favreau mentioned that his remarks lost Obama popularity with white people that they could measure in his polling, and that never came back.
raven
“These are also the same people who find performative morality to be more important than winning and governing, so here is my advice to Kamala Harris on this issue- “Don’t say anything about it” and if someone asks you roll your eyes and move on.”
And that whine and bitch about Morning Joe, Nicolle Wallace and MSNBC even thought they are clearly on the right side.
Jackie
@SuzieC: Trump pardoned Libby. And was whiningly reminding us.
Baud
@BethanyAnne:
That’s so unlike them.
Jeffro
Maybe…and the chances of it breaking through to them go up the louder we get about it, I think. =)
It’s probably too much for normies (much less extra-low-info normies) to take in, but it’s worth taking a shot:
“What is it that unites Dick Cheney, AOC, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Bernie Sanders, Bill Clinton, and almost all of trumpov’s former cabinet members? NOT MUCH LOL BUT: they all recognize a fundamental threat to our country when they see one.” (cut to a graphic of trumpov lighting a fuse)
(or, the negative ad version)
“What is it that unites Tucker Carlson, Jill Stein, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, a whole host of RWNJ social media influencers, Steve Bannon, and RFK Jr?” (cut to a graphic of the Kremlin, or of rubles being counted – or both – while trumpov lights a fuse)
“Get it yet, folks?”
MagdaInBlack
@SuzieC: Wasn’t Scooter one of Cheney’s pets? Its a dig at Cheney. A dumb one, but after all, it is trump..
Baud
@Jeffro:
Love of pickleball?
RaflW
Dallas Morning News:
U.S. Rep. Colin Allred (D) has fresh bipartisan bragging rights after former Republican colleague Liz Cheney announced Friday she’s supporting his challenge to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.
“You might not agree on every policy position, but we need people who are going to serve in good faith,” Cheney said during an on-stage interview at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin. “We need people who are honorable public servants, and in this race that is Colin Allred, so I’ll be working on his behalf.”
Cheney criticized Cruz’s objections to certifying President Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election. Allred joined Congress in 2019, two years after Cheney was elected in Wyoming. The pair cosponsored more than 50 bills (italics added), including proposals to support veterans and first responders, Allred’s campaign said in a news release.
“Though we may not agree on everything, we’ve been able to find common ground by putting our country over political parties,” Allred said in a release. “Importantly, we both believe in protecting our democracy, our constitution and the foundational promise of our great country.”
Allred has put his ability to work with Republicans at the center of his campaign as recent polling shows him within striking distance of Cruz. …
Cheney made headlines earlier this week when she announced she would work to help Vice President Kamala Harris defeat Trump in November.
Speaking Friday at TribFest, she talked about the danger posed by a potential Trump second term. …
During Friday’s interview, Liz Cheney also criticized candidates up and down the ballot who she said have “embraced election denialism.” …
Taking questions from the audience, Cheney was asked what message she had for Texans discouraged by Texas Republican leaders who embrace Trump.
“Vote for Colin Allred,” she said. (emphasis added)
Jeffro
@lowtechcyclist: Mrs. Fro LOVES negotiating for our cars when the time comes! You covered a few of her usual tips:
And one thing to add to the list: if you are able to settle on a particular car from a particular dealership, INSIST on putting down a deposit or get some sort of written guarantee that the dealer won’t sell the car out from under you in between your ‘deal’ and when you actually go to pick it up/finalize the purchase. We had that happen last year (we received a text when we were 10 min out from picking up an agreed-upon car…”oops, I was off yesterday, and they sold your car, can I get you another?”)
Our last 3 purchases have been new cars, too: we keep looking for ones that are 1-2 years used, but end up getting better deals on new. Go figure?
Good luck!
martha
@Thylacine: OMG it is. I’m so impatient that I’ll probably go back and rewatch seasons 1-3 while I wait each week for a new episode.
Jeffro
and as a PS to folks who might have a very old and/or beat-up car to trade in when going to a dealer: don’t take a piddly amount for it
just donate it to any of the many causes that will take it off your hands, and get more for that donation/tax write-off than you would from the dealer
OR
tell the dealer you’re going to donate it…but will ‘settle’ for X in trade!
SuzieC
@Jeffro: Love both ads! But in the second one I would cut to a graphic of Putin, because MAGAmorons might not recognize the Kremlin, or rubles. They all know Putin due to their GodEmperor’s worship of him.
martha
@The Thin Black Duke: Oh thank goodness. I’ve read all of the books and this is one of those almost nonexistent situations where the books and TV show are comparable, given the challenges of cramming a whole book into 6 episodes.
ETA, but only because the cast is…amazing.
Jay
@Scout211:
It should all be in the quote for replacement, and in most areas, they will need permits and inspections.
Try the reboot first,
Most tank heaters die not because of a brain fart, but instead scale and silt build up that causes the tank to fail and flood, so flush every year.
Always make sure in a tank install, you have a drain pan installed, with a drain out to a floor drain, a flex line for the gas and inlet and outlets, (make replacement much easier and installation costs lower), and if you can find them, an automatic water shut off valve, ( if the tank bursts, flow to the tank shuts off, so the flood is only the tank contents plus a tiny bit).
Matt McIrvin
@TS: ChatDJT
RaflW
@TS: This is one of Petri’s best.
[reformatted slightly for easier reading]
And yes, please, more skewering of your colleagues!
Jeffro
True! (anecdotally, anyway, but I believe Favreau about the polling). This specific incident is what turned my ‘seemingly more moderate by the year’ dad away from supporting Obama and back towards the Fox-‘BREAKING NEWS’-driven RWNJ crowd, never to return.
A black president calling a white cop on the carpet, publicly and nationally? The ‘beer summit’?
I think he’s had his tv playing Fox 24/7 ever since, so there’s that too…but it definitely (re)activated all the wrong things.
Lyrebird
@Spanky: @MobiusKlein:
or,
Ta-ta, you lot!
HinTN
@trollhattan: That tankless is a GOOD investment. My gas company jokingly chided me for significantly reducing my gas consumption when I switched from bulk to tankless. Get a Rinnai.
Matt McIrvin
@Jackie: Why, he sounds like our own Bob in Portland! (master of the syllogism “Bush lied about Iraq, therefore it was Ukraine that shot down that Malaysian airliner”)
frosty
@Jay: Good advice! We’ve replaced the water heater once, I’ll look at the flex lines and shutoff if we have to do it again.
Jeffro
or…you see NYT-slanted headlines and that’s all you read of a story…
or…you see snooze media “sane-washed” coverage of trumpov, and he doesn’t sound so bad…
but yeah, watch those Fox chryons for a little bit and you’ll see. they know what they’re doing.
Regine Touchon
@oldster: Remember Dana Bash asked the insulting question to Kamala about Trump saying she just became black? She said same old story and Dana asked incredulously that’s it. “That’s it” she said and then the icing on the cake she said “Next question.” That’s how you do it.
Jay
@frosty:
at the place we used to be at, off grid, the hot water heater was fed by a coil installed in the tank with a solar powered recirculating pump and glycol filled vacume solar hot water panels. June to September, we burned no propane for hot water.
Anytime it was above freezing, the water was preheated, saving propane.
I modified the tank by adding 3″ of closed cell extruded foam to the outside, top and bottom, wrapped in Reflextix, because I knew the tank insulation was 1″ of pink, R 3.1, vs. R-20 for the foam and wrap.
WaterGirl
@Regine Touchon: Pod Save America had Dana Bash on last night to talk about her awesome interview!
I read their little blurb about the episode and was like, nope!
They have gotten way to chummy with media people. They repeatedly have Trump’s lapdog Maggie on the show, and now Dana Bash. And their good old buddy from the Obama years.
They are becoming what they despised.
BR
@WaterGirl:
Exactly my reaction as well. I clicked on the YouTube video and then immediately realized my mistake. Like anything good can come from elevating a bothsiding pundit.
BethanyAnne
@Jeffro: And Obama’s comments were so measured. I think he called the cops foolish? I remember being like “time for your anger translator, Obama”. I didn’t realize how brittle some people’s support was.
BethanyAnne
@WaterGirl: And some of that is Barack Obama’s influence. I was watching after the Obamas spoke at the DNC, and Favreau said that Barack has been kicking a speech around for years. About small “L” liberalism. The idea that politics doesn’t have to be war, and that you have more in common than you have different. He was talking with … Tim Miller? The dude from the Bulwark? And Tim was gaga over it.
I thought about it for a day or so, and shockingly, I’m unconvinced. Miller may be gay, but I’m queer. And I don’t want to make friends with the people who want me and mine loaded into boxcars. I truly appreciate that Kamala is aiming for a big tent, but I spent too damn long giving the Andrew Sullivan/reasonable conservative/moderates goddamn chances. I’m done.
Another Scott
@lowtechcyclist: I bought a new Kia Niro PHEV last year.
I looked at Edmunds, saw what they said was a suggested price, decided I could accept that (it was basically list price), and went the dealer. The sticker had a $3000 additional charge (Toyota dealers around here in NoVA were wanting $5000 over sticker for the new Prius hybrid at the time). I said to the sales guy that I thought sticker price was fair, and was willing to buy it today, he talked to his manager, and we were done.
The whole process took maybe an hour.
The Niro I got had been on the lot for about 6 weeks, so they probably were happy to sell it. Look at the window sticker and the car inspection sticker date, if you can.
I didn’t want to haggle and play games. Some people like the challenge, I don’t. ;-)
Anyway, that’s what I did. I was happy with the way the process went.
Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Frankensteinbeck
@SpaceUnit:
Unfortunately, a very large number of people have heard of those knobs. They have hundreds of thousands, even millions of viewers in the right wing internet. We haven’t heard of them.
BR
@BethanyAnne:
One thing I appreciate about Harris is she doesn’t seem to fall for the centrist pundit brain thinking. At least from what I have seen. Those days are long gone — we saw what happened when Obama extended a hand to the GOP.
Omnes Omnibus
Valid only if you itemize.
Jackie
@WaterGirl: Dana Bash is doing the media circuit promoting her newly released book. It coincides with the debate, so the topics tend to overlap.
Gin & Tonic
I grew some new (to me) hot peppers this year, a variety called Fatali.
Not an inappropriate name for these babies.
BethanyAnne
@BR: Yeah, that’s my read as well. It’s so refreshing.
WaterGirl
@BethanyAnne: Politics doesn’t have to be war. I agree with that 100%.
But when the other side is trying to kill you (figuratively speaking, and literally for some people) then hell yes it’s war.
TS
@BethanyAnne:
And trump calls veterans much worse & the press talk politely about him visiting Arlington Cemetery.
mrmoshpotato
Glad you’re feeling a bit better, John. And glad you have the gym and pool to help further healing up that shoulder and other fitness.
TS
@RaflW:
She skewered the NYT and CNN – didn’t mention the WaPo who did the same.
RevRick
Got a text from our son earlier this evening that he just tested positive for Covid. Since my wife and I had taken him out to dinner last night to celebrate his birthday at Thyme Rooftop Restaurant in Easton PA, we will err on the side of caution and self quarantine during the incubation period. We can console ourselves about the superb quality of the meal and the marvelous view of the Delaware River below and Phillipsburg NJ on the other side. I had the melted like butter in the mouth Butcher’s Cut steak, my wife had the braised short ribs, and our son, the spice rubbed venison. To start, we shared grilled octopus and truffle fries dusted with parmesan, and complimented that with drinks and desserts.
mrmoshpotato
@Gin & Tonic: Sounds like they’re quite spicy.
Wapiti
@lowtechcyclist: Last time I bought a car, I went online and found a site that would let me request a quote from local dealer A. Printed that out and took it with me to look at cars at local dealer B. Saw a car I liked, for more than the quote, pulled out the paper and said, well, could you match this quote. Saved some money and probably sped any negotiation along.
WaterGirl
@TS: Perhaps her message to her fellow workers at the Washington Post was best delivered without naming them. Maybe the message will get through, when it likely wouldn’t have if they could just be pissed – “how dare she say that about us!”
mrmoshpotato
@RevRick: Sounds like a great meal. Hope you and your wife test negative.
WaterGirl
@RevRick: So crazy that you can feel perfectly fine one day and test positive for Covid the next.
How many days is the incubation period for the current strain?
At least you had a wonderful meal and a lovely night with your son. Hoping that you guys manage to dodge it
edit: Rooftop as in outside? Or enclosed rooftop room?
Sure Lurkalot
@WaterGirl
I highly recommend The Cornfield Resistance, it’s well scripted yet spontaneous, often hilarious, always insightful. Weekly recap type format with a mid week thrown in.
TS
@WaterGirl: It’s her meal ticket – probably went as close as she could. I didn’t expect she would name them but pleased to see the NYT.
WaterGirl
@Sure Lurkalot: That doesn’t come up when I search for it.
edit: I just googled. That’s Professional Left, right? With Driftglass and BLuegirl? Tried that one years ago and it wasn’t for me. :-(
Jackie
Every poll I’ve seen lately show this year’s election is definitely going to be a Battle of the Sexes. Women breaking Democratic, while men are breaking Republican.
Latest example:
I think/hope women (and the men who love the women in their lives) are galvanized to vote this year for pro women’s productive healthcare.
RevRick
@FDRLincoln: The thing to remember is that Kamala gave up nothing for their endorsements. They tossed aside all their economic must-haves. Kamala is campaigning on expanding the welfare state. She is a conservative’s worst nightmare, raising taxes on the wealthy, increasing regulations on business, redistributing wealth downwards via such proposals as the child tax credit and subsidies for first-time home buyers. These conservatives would rather have eaten ground glass than agree to any of this. But given the monstrous threat that Trump poses, none of those rock-bottom policies matter anymore.
In order to preserve one thing… our nation… they surrendered all else they once held near and dear.
I have a hard time picturing myself doing anything remotely approaching this.
RevRick
@WaterGirl: We chose inside, but they also have an outside dining space. Also, we took an exclusive express elevator to the 7th floor restaurant.
Last night, our son had a runny nose, itchy eyes and was somewhat sneezy, but at the time he thought it was allergies. He tested when he learned a co-worker had COVID and immediately shared the news.
Thanks for your concern.
RevRick
@mrmoshpotato: It was a great meal. I’ve never spent $350 for one before, but I would gladly go back to enjoy another meal there.
Neither I nor MrsRev is showing any signs of symptoms so far. We got a booster back in June.
Mark’s Bubbie
@RevRick: And aggressively pro union, too! But Jan 6, and connected schemes, were a bridge too far. Country over party, for real.
hitchhiker
@Jackie:
Condoleeza Rice is a childless woman, so the Republican ticket will assume she has no stake in the future and can be safely ignored.
But I bet she’s eager to see Harris win, and I hope she campaigns for her.
KrackenJack
@RevRick: Just wanted to say I frequently appreciate your perspectives. You’re obviously coming from a very different – and probably kinder – place than me.
laura
@lowtechcyclist: I bought one in 2020. I had eyed a used model, but was enticed into a new model at the same price. I love it except for the invisible front end- I don’t care for the falling away/cant place the corners vis a vis the lane markings like days of yore. Spouse can chuck his bike in the back. It’s very easy to get in and out of and the doors open 90° which is great if you must schlep boxy things. Zero regrets on the vehicle. Happy motoring!
hitchhiker
@Jeffro:
Ugh, I remember that so well.
Gates came home from a trip to China and found that the front door of his house was jammed. He got his driver to help him open it, and a neighbor thought the house was being burgled.
The cop arrived as Gates managed to get in. He asked for ID and followed Gates into the house when he went to get it: his Harvard professor ID and his driver’s license. Then Gates asked for cop’s ID, and the cop asked him to step outside, where he arrested Gates for disorderly conduct.
The cop claimed that Gates was yelling at him.
Obama said that the cop “behaved stupidly” when he arrested Gates after Gates had shown that he was not a burglar but the person who lived in that house.
The “behaved stupidly” is what stuck in the public mind. Obama thinks cops are stupid! Uppity you know what. A lot of white men never got over that.
RevRick
@Mark’s Bubbie: Their universe has been turned upside down
@KrackenJack: Thank you for saying I bring a different perspective to the table, because that’s what I try to do.
Jackie
@hitchhiker: Does she have a cat? 😱
In all seriousness, I hope she supports Harris.
I want to see a groundswell of prominent republicans endorse Harris and down ballot Democrats.
This election could be epic if “normal”republicans rebel against MAGA Trumpism and vote Blue.
BR
@Jackie:
I think the only thing that maybe could move the needle is if Bush were to organize a public but closed door speech to old guard Republicans — especially some big donors that are on the fence about Trump but liked Bush — and made the conservative case against Trump. I think it might even be stronger for him to argue for a write in vote campaign against Trump rather than voting for Harris, because the real GOP diehards won’t vote for Harris.
HumboldtBlue
@RevRick:
Are you actually talking about the Cheneys? You must be out of your ever loving mind. They haven’t given up a fucking thing! They haven’t surrendered their time, money or freedom for a goddamn thing, and you’re here pretending they’re martyrs? They’re still the avaricious, vicious, hateful fucking bigots they have always been, they just chose to do the noble thing one time, and we have people like you elevating them to some sort of sainthood.
Liz Cheney was born into vast wealth, never had to work a fucking day in her life, and when she did work she worked to uphold the most vile and nasty ideas the GOP can summon and did her level best to have them implemented. That wealth was made by her warmongering father, and they’re supposed to be the virtuous?
What nonsense.
Jackie
@HumboldtBlue: Are you against the Cheney’s endorsing Harris and possibly pulling otherwise reluctant republicans to vote Blue?
BethanyAnne
@hitchhiker: I knew someone here would remember the details :) David Frum said that he bets Rice won’t endorse Kamala, though she’ll probably vote for her. He said that Rice has spent her entire career not saying what she really thinks out loud.
HumboldtBlue
@Jackie:
I don’t give a shit what the Cheneys do, I am pointing out this bullshit that they are some virtuous do-gooders because they realized the fucking monster they built, and now they can’t control, is driving their actions.
Liz Cheney said Dems need to face up and admit the non Trump GOPers because they share the same enmity, but fuck that, Cheney and the no Trumpers need to change their fucking attitudes on nearly every issue before they get the respect of being anything other than a one-time convenient ally.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@HumboldtBlue:
The Cheneys, and the rest of the never-Trumpers, spent years weaponizing the stoooopid…and then were surprised at the results.
Hair Furor is the end result of conscious and deliberate choices by GOPers like the Cheneys, going back decades, to demonize its opponents, to polarize and obstruct, to pursue policies that enfeeble the political weal and to yoke the bigot and the ignorant to their wagon and to drive them by dangling carrots that they only ever intended to feed to the rich.
Felonious D’s road to the candidacy was laid down and paved by the Southern Strategy, by Lee Atwater and Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove, by Fox News and the Tea Party, and by the smirking cynicism of three generations of GOP operatives, who have been fracking the white middle and working classes for years, crushing their fortunes with their social and economic policies, never imagining it would cause an earthquake.
And never-Trump Republicans can’t do a thing about it because they carefully molded this most spiteful segment of their party—angry, racist, sexist, and conspiratorial—for at least a decade. Fox News’ whole existence has been about this.
I’ll take the Cheney’s public statements about their presidential vote come November, again we’re FDR and they’re Stalin without the 34 million troops, but after the election, fuck them.
On a good day I think Darth Cheney should have been tried as a war criminal, Stalin was infinitely worse, but I’ll take their vote in the meantime.
cmorenc
If the Cheyneys announcements give permission to a significant number of “never Trump” GOPers to vote for Harris, I am fine with that. The future of this country is on the line in this election, that’s what is paramount important right now. This is the only tangible penance we’re going to ever get from the Cheyneys for their part in laying the groundwork for the devolution of the GOP that led to Trump.
cmorenc
@Regine Touchon:
Dana Bash inadvertently did Harris a favor by phrasing the ethnic identity question in a manner Harris could so effectively and concisely put cleanly away.
BR
@HumboldtBlue:
In the scheme of things I can’t imagine the Cheneys supporting Harris will help more than it will give yet another vehicle for “Harris sold us out mumble mumble” complaints from social media leftists. So it’ll be a wash.
The only way Dick Cheney doing this will make a difference I think is if it gets Bush to do something more direct and strategic and public. We’ll see.
Jackie
@HumboldtBlue: I have to agree. But, any Trumpers they pull over to vote for Dems, I’ll take.
After the election, we’ll deal with the Cheneys, and their ilk.
Right now we’re battling a common enemy.
Citizen Alan
@RaflW: My Prediction: WaPo will fire Alexandra Petri before the year is out. She is the only worthwhile thing about that shitty-ass fascist-apologist newspaper, and this marks two columns in the past two weeks that have focused on mocking her fellow Post employees for how worthless they are (this one and the one about Keesler).
Chris T.
@trollhattan: You’re in earthquake country, aren’t you? A tank-based heater has the advantage of still holding water after the Big One (provided it’s strapped etc and the big one isn’t so big as to turn the house sideways, but in that case you may not need water any more anyway).
pluky
“stingy, itchy, sharp pang” — histamine release as the post-op scar tissue gets broken down, digested, and absorbed.
“ever present low throb” — severed nerve endings regrowing.
This will pass. In the meantime, signs that healing is not complete, so don’t push things!
RevRick
@HumboldtBlue: No, I am not out of my ever loving mind, but I think you are. You are letting your anger get the best of you.
I never claimed any virtues for the Cheneys, nor did I say anything about their freedom or wealth. I was only talking about their longstanding political beliefs. Nothing more, nothing less.
And if Trump wins re-election, they have placed themselves in some jeopardy. They have painted a target on their backs for some version of a Trumpian Night of the Long Knives.
By publicly casting their lots with Harris, and in Liz Cheney’s case with Colin Allred against Ted Cruz in Texas, they have effectively endorsed Democratic policies that they would have been dead set against just four years ago.
So, I am not going to put myself in the unhealthy trap of scorekeeping. My faith demands that I live by grace and forgiveness. So, I ask your grace and forgiveness for clearly digging up some deep wounds.
brantl
@zhena gogolia: What about the BeeGees was ever great, or even good? Feh.
brantl
@Other MJS: If Cheney takes him quail hunting, the only limit on how often Stumpy could get shot would be how many bottles of booze Cheney could carry, and how much of his body Stumpy’s gun-caddy and gun-cart would cover.