From the Washington Post, company paper of the town whose monopoly industry is national politics:
Republicans said Thursday that the House will vote next week on a stop-gap spending bill to fund the government after Sept. 30, without the controversial language that would defund Planned Parenthood.
Dozens of House Republicans acknowledged the plan on Friday after the closed-door meeting where Boehner (R-Ohio) made the bombshell announcement that he’ll resign as speaker at the end of October. The strategy all but ensures there will be no imminent shutdown and leaves any future budget battles in the hands of new leadership…
The Post, of course, is liveblogging this whole meshugas, replete with backgrounders, reminiscences, and video clips. Robert Costa waxes nostalgic, and Chris Cillizza goes over the timeline that led to Boehner’s announcement.
Time, meanwhile, highlights Boehner’s probable replacement.
Boehner's resigning b/c he only became speaker in order to one day meet the Pope I guess. #PopeinUS
— Leah Libresco (@LeahLibresco) September 25, 2015
Germy Shoemangler
Headline:
Right-wing base already hates Kevin McCarthy
JPL
What about the debt ceiling? If it does rise before Boehner’s departure, it won’t get done.
Mustang Bobby
I’m having luscious flashbacks to 1998 when the House under Newt Gingrich was trying to do everything to impeach and destroy Bill Clinton and yet, like Wiley Coyote and the Roadrunner, everything they did blew up in their face.
Meep meep!
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
These Republicans aren’t “conservatives,” they’re radicals.
Doug R
@Mustang Bobby: Yeah, but then what happened in 2000?
schrodinger's cat
@JPL: As a revenge against their fellow citizens for voting for a black President, not once but twice the GOP wants to paint it (the global economy) black.
Roger Moore
@Germy Shoemangler:
Yeah, how crazy. The House Majority Whip was doing the bidding of the Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader, rather than going along with a bunch of rebellious back benchers who were trying to undermine them all the time. What is the world coming to?
Germy Shoemangler
@schrodinger’s cat: I’m no expert, but when Obama won I predicted the GOP would go NUTS. And sure enough, they’re apeshit crazy.
Peale
I didn’t realize people were bothered by the two women who passed ranger training, but I guess they have friends in high places. Good for the other women grads for pushing back.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/west-point-grads-want-to-see-gopers-military-record-after-he-questions-womens-fitness-to-serve/
Germy Shoemangler
@Roger Moore: If McCarthy is too liberal for them, who the hell would make them happy? Darth Vader?
ranchandsyrup
trying to do some more writering. my wife’s post on changing friendships
schrodinger's cat
@Germy Shoemangler: I was naive, I didn’t expect this level of vitriol.
Mike J
@Germy Shoemangler: They ain’t gonna go sane when Hillary wins.
Trentrunner
Any chance Boehner will bring the Senate-approved immigration bill to the floor before he leaves?
He has the votes.
Belafon
@Doug R: Butterfly ballots, Nader, and Gore running away from Clinton.
schrodinger's cat
@Mike J: Well, they weren’t all that sane during Bill Clinton’s presidency either and he is a southern dude of the right race and religious affiliation.
Mustang Bobby
@Doug R: They cheated.
redshirt
@Germy Shoemangler:
Vader’s too liberal. A real SINO.
JPL
@redshirt: Speaker of the House Cruz.
Thoughtful Today
…
… the devil you know….
Belafon
@redshirt: No “true” Sith would have turned on his master.
trollhattan
@redshirt:
ZOMG, Vader’s Chinese!?!
NonyNony
@Doug R:
8 years of decent economic growth combined with a Republican candidate who ran as a Republican-lite moderate combined with a fairly uninspiring Democratic candidate who insisted on running away from the Democratic victories of his own administration led to an election so close that it took a rigged Supreme Court decision to throw it to the Republican?
I mean, yeah it was a bad election and it led to 8 years of horribleness. But it was an election where the Democrats lost more than it was an election that the Republicans won. I really don’t think that the lessons of 2000 have been forgotten, and I don’t think that Clinton is going to be running away from Obama the way that Gore insisted on running away from Clinton. (And I also don’t think there’s a chance in hell that any of the current crop of Republicans is going to get away with running as a Republican-lite “compassionate conservative” in the general election the way the W did either. That ship has sailed.)
Germy Shoemangler
I think they went somewhat apeshit when Nixon resigned. They’ve been wanting to “even the score” ever since. They won’t be happy until a “democrat” president resigns in disgrace.
Then maybe they’ll calm down.
Or maybe not.
SFAW
@Germy Shoemangler:
One assumes you said that as a joke.
redshirt
@trollhattan:
He is a commie traitor, so…
trollhattan
@Germy Shoemangler:
After my dog caught her first rat she became really, really fixated in catching more rats. No, we can’t encourage them. One scalp merely taunts them they don’t have a YOUUUGE scalp collection.
Also, too, is there any veracity in the rumor that congress didn’t proceed with impeachment hearings on Reagan because it was “too soon” after Nixon?
Germy Shoemangler
@SFAW: As soon as I typed it I saw the absurdity of it.
SFAW
@Germy Shoemangler:
Kind of what I thought/hoped.
I just hope the country wakes up before those treasonous motherfuckers destroy it once and for all.
SatanicPanic
@schrodinger’s cat: Who is going to be willing to do this job? I know they’re all nuts, but I don’t think there are a ton of masochists among Republican House members
dedc79
I’m no expert, but I think you combined mishigas (craziness) and meshuggana (mad/idiotic person) into a new yiddishism.
Germy Shoemangler
@SFAW:
Little hope of any awakenings, if the online comments on my local newspapers are to be believed. Nothing but RW talking points repeated again and again.
My local paper ran an online poll: Should a presidential candidate’s religion be a factor? 62% voted YES
NonyNony
@Germy Shoemangler:
No. I mean, I agree that Nixon being a crook and getting caught and being forced to resign made them angry and made them want payback, but it goes deeper than that. Nixon and company pulled all of the hardcore “cultural conservatives” into their party when previously they’d been dispersed into both parties and that’s what this is all about – the world is changing and as long as it continues to change they will continue to be angry about it and lash out. They’re angry about women not knowing their place. They’re angry about black people and immigrants and gay people not knowing their place. And they’re angry about the fact that there are women and black people and immigrants and gay people who are doing better than they are – those people should know their place! (Which is to say – in an inferior position to them.)
That anger isn’t going to go away because the world isn’t going to stop changing in our lifetimes. They’re going to continue to resent the groups of people who are doing better than them who aren’t “supposed” to be doing better than them. So they’ll continue to be angry and as long as there are enough of them to support a major political party they’ll continue to have far more power than they should.
redshirt
@SFAW:
They won’t wake up on their own, and neither will voters, I fear.
But I do think the business community can, if their bottom lines are threatened. And the fact is, the Republican party is no longer good for business. When they finally realize this and do something about it is when this madness might abate.
joel hanes
@Belafon:
Butterfly ballots, Nader, and Gore running away from Clinton.
Omits Kathleen Harris’s purging the voter rolls with the approval of Jeb!
Mustang Bobby
I’m already getting fund-raising appeals from Democrats because Boehner is leaving. Yesterday I was getting the same appeals because he wasn’t leaving.
Germy Shoemangler
@NonyNony:
And I’m not one of those people who thinks the poison is only in the older generation, and then when they die out… things will be fine.
For every racist asshole who dies of old age, three racist assholes are born. The young assholes are calling themselves libertarians.
I’ve seen high school kids wearing confederate flag shirts lately, in some sort of protest against “PC”
beltane
Louie Gohmert as Speaker would make the teabaggers happy. No one capably of making a credible showing on the Sunday morning shows would be acceptable to the base. They don’t want someone who just is crazy, they want someone who also acts crazy.
joel hanes
@trollhattan:
is there any veracity in the rumor that congress didn’t proceed with impeachment hearings on Reagan because it was “too soon” after Nixon?
Who can say exactly why things happen or don’t happen?
However, at the time, that “too soon” trope was certainly seen, over and over, in any discussion of the politics of possibly prosecuting Iran-Contra.
Peale
@joel hanes: And honestly, Iran Contra was nothing compared with the outright looting of HUD.
scav
@Mustang Bobby: Wow. I’ve seen Nigerian 419ers leap on the latest media event that fast — so clearly we can see what they call themselves when they go technically legit.
SatanicPanic
@Germy Shoemangler:
I don’t buy this. I don’t think there’s much evidence that we’re getting more racist.
Roger Moore
@Germy Shoemangler:
I don’t think it’s that he’s too liberal for them, it’s that he was the enforcer for Boehner and Cantor. They want somebody who is unsullied by compromise with That One, which pretty much excludes anyone who has held a leadership position.
Roger Moore
@Belafon:
Nonsense. A true Sith rebels and kills his master as soon a the master has nothing left to teach him. Kind of like a Republican.
SatanicPanic
@Roger Moore: the Emperor has foreseen this
SFAW
@SatanicPanic:
Like it did him any good.
Randy P
Kind of short notice, but anybody have any suggestions for a few hours in Portland, OR on a warm Friday evening?
Sitting in the airport chilling after a long-ish flight. Local time is 1:30 pm so the whole afternoon is free. The sad family business that brings us here is tomorrow. Meanwhile we have a few hours to ourselves today and tonight.
Yatsuno
@SFAW: “Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future.”
/Yoda
jl
I take back the bad things I said about Boehner in the earlier thread about his resignation (but just the bad things in that particular comment, not all the bad things I have ever typed about him.). Looks like there was a nugget of truth in the story that if Boehner actually acted like a great Speaker, (the status I’ve read that he aspires to), he would lose his job.
So, he made a crucial deal, though one that does not get us through to whole debt crisis season, and there are enough total crazies in his caucus that he can no longer keep his job because he did the honest, responsible and sane thing. Like a commenter above, I hope he pushes through as much sensible legislation as he can while he is still Speaker. If he really wants to go down in history as anything except a sad partisan non-entity as Speaker, then he will do that. But I don’t have much hope about it.
SFAW
@Germy Shoemangler:
One hopes that you’re somewhere like Armadillo or OKC. It would suck if you were in Boston.
SFAW
@Yatsuno:
“I say ‘Live it or live with it.’ “
scav
Oh GSD, I somehow finally linked the Volkswagon gotterdammerung with the Doctor Who Atmos episode and now I’m expecting Sontarans. And continuing with the Volks Potato theme: Ian the Climate Denialist Potato
SFAW
@Randy P:
Two Lights State Park, Portland Head Light, Old Orchard Beach, Bayley’s Lobster Pound in Pine Point.
Oh, wait – Oregon? Never mind.
NonyNony
@Roger Moore:
Almost exactly the same kind of dynamic as what we’re seeing in the Presidential primaries when you think about it.
MattF
@Roger Moore: I think we’re talking Liberty Caucus.
Anoniminous
@Germy Shoemangler:
I take a candidate’s religion into account before voting. If they are some whacked-out Godbotherer they aren’t getting my vote. No how. No way.
SFAW
@MattF:
Wow, so many assholes/nutcases in one place
MattF
@SFAW: Yeah, the space-time continuum sees that and thinks “Whoa, I’m not going there.”
SFAW
@Randy P: @SFAW:
So I re-read your comment – not having read it completely on the first go-through, and realized my reply was, shall we say, inappropriate and stupid.
My apologies for my thoughtless response.
Davis X. Machina
@SFAW: Wait. There’s another Portland? Why is this even necessary?
Another Holocene Human
@Mustang Bobby: Right after Walker threw in the towel. My union brothers are pleased as punch right now.
(Good diversion from how much stuff sucks in Florida right now.)
the Conster
@Randy P:
Japanese Garden; Rose Garden
jl
@Randy P: Hit the parks and gardens. One of best Japanese gardens in US.
Go find an internet and search ‘portland OR parks gardens’.
And if you like beer, go to a few brewpubs that look like they have good stuff.
IMHO.
redshirt
@Roger Moore:
I’m glad you said it.
Ok, gonna embarass myself here, but if you like Star Wars and the Sith and want to know more, read the book – yes, a Star Wars book – Darth Plagueius. It’s all Sith stuff, and it’s a bit unusual as these villains are presented completely and fairly as the protagonists. I loved it, but I’m an enormous nerd.
Randy P
@SFAW: No sweat, humor is always on topic.
Not sure how much energy I’ll have tonight anyway. But I’ve never been here before so I thought I’d at least TRY to see something.
Already had my first good coffee of the trip. My god the airline coffee was wretched. Tasted like they made it with swimming-pool water.
redshirt
@Davis X. Machina:
Right? And a lot of people even think it’s THE Portland.
Get your Trailblazers out of here. Portland, ME is the only sanctuary city for me.
jl
@the Conster:
@Randy P:
Darmmit, just beat me to it. Also a Chinese garden, and Portland is nice rhododendron and azalea territory, and they have some gardens devoted to those. Think its past their season though.
If you get in the city limits before sundown, a walk through Forest Park.
Edit: or, Washington Park (I think that’s the name) if you want to wander as you will and run into interesting stuff in and around the park.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Randy P: If you want a nice walk, Washington Park holds a fantastic rose garden and Japanese formal garden, It sits on a hill, the top of which offers a panoramic view of the Portland skyline with snow-capped Mount Hood in the background. I walked there from downtown through some nice residential neighborhoods but that’s a hike.
It’s been so long since I’ve been there that I can’t offer any restaurant recommendations.
redshirt
@SFAW:
I went to Pine Point beach just last week when it was summer (a lifetime ago already) and the water was the grossest I’ve ever seen the ocean. The shoreline and water out to like 20 feet was filled with this slimy red seaweed. It was disgusting. But I could see a mile down the beach in OOB and it was clear, so thankfully we moved and had a great beach day. But wow was that seaweed disgusting. No one was swimming.
MattF
Yeah, it’s a Slate link, but it’s Dahlia Lithwick. Fiorina is an unapologetic liar.
Frankensteinbeck
@redshirt:
Kinda true. When Vader said ‘The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am’ it was not a joke.
ThresherK
The idea of a Republican named McCarthy in a powerful Congressional post makes me giggle inside. Please, keep reminding the electorate of this!
(Bonus: Does it really matter which individual succeeds Boehner?)
I guess the conservatives couldn’t find a Booth or a Coughlin.
Sad_Dem
@Germy Shoemangler: They were pro-Darth until he sponsored that disability rights bill.
Debbie
@MattF:
If Fox couldn’t get Fiorina to come clean, no one can. She’s Cheney in a skirt.
p.a.
@redshirt: in Burgess Meredith voice: “women weaken Sith”.
Steeplejack (phone)
@scav:
Now I’m hungry for chicken crinkydinks.
ThresherK
@p.a.: All I can come up with in Burgess Meredith’s voice is “That’s not fair. That’s not fair at all. There was time now. There was–was all the time I needed!”
boatboy_srq
@redshirt: Common event Down East. Between the coastline and seabed conditions (all rock) and the frequent heavy sea activity (10-14′ tides, and the intersection of the Gulf Stream with the Labrador Current) there’s a lot of weed that gets dislodged on a regular basis. Locals used not to be too bothered by it. The “beaches” (OOB, Goose Rocks, Kennebunk Beach, Ogunquit, Wells) don’t get as much washed up; but the coves and little inlets can get covered.
p.a.
@ThresherK: Boehner’s epitaph!
Mike in NC
Technically, couldn’t the House re-elect Newt as Speaker, even if he’s no longer a member? The guy is tanned, rested, and ready to do battle with another President Clinton. The Villagers would swoon.
debbie
@ThresherK:
Loved that episode!
p.a.
@boatboy_srq: is it just red seaweed, or red tide (toxic)?
goblue72
@MattF: Fiorina ain’t going to be the GOP nominee. Ain’t happening. She couldn’t even manage a Senate campaign involving only a single debate and against a candidate (Boxer) who couldn’t really point to much in terms of wins as a leader on any major legislation and who ran a so-so re-election campaign. Despite everything being stacked in her favor, Fiorina still got hosed by 10 points.
And there’s also that video of her trashing Boxer’s hairdo during the campaign that anyone can easily pull up against her if she ever manages to like a threat.
She’s propped up by the boys in charge as a foil to Trump. Nothing more. Once Trump quit, the money boys will pull the plug on her.
bemused
@ranchandsyrup:
I like your wife’s post a lot. Long ago, I read a great thing in a fiction novel that wasn’t particularly deep up until this: If you fall down, a friend will try to pick you up. If the friend can’t pick you up, he/she will lay down beside you and listen. That’s been my yardstick for real friends since. I had been going through a thing with a friend at the time and those words just clarified for me that I had to let that person go and move on.
boatboy_srq
@MattF: Quelle surprise. Most of us figured that out when she told HP that her tenure at Lucent qualified her to lead the company. There’s something about her (latest) Big Lie, though, that makes me think she’s starting to lose it: the scene she describes sounds less like misremembering the O’Keefe fauxposé and more like a nightmare episode of V.
boatboy_srq
@goblue72: So, I take it in the pool a few posts back you’re betting that Trump is out of the race (just) before Fiorina, then?
ThresherK
@debbie: Meredith earned a place in the pantheon of Serling’s regulars.
@p.a.: Is John Boehner as sympathetic a character as Henry Bemis?
I guess there’s a new game: Which Twilight Zone character is John Boehner?
Germy Shoemangler
Something for Boehner to listen to on the way home:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrY8XLT917o
Omnes Omnibus
@ThresherK: All Republicans are the demon on the wing.
boatboy_srq
@p.a.: Red tide didn’t used to hit that far north. Seaweed comes in red, brown, green and black, depending on the variety. The freshly-washed-up stuff has a strong, but not especially unpleasant, odor; once it’s been out for a while, though, it gets pretty rank until it completely dries out.
schrodinger's cat
@Debbie: Is there a Cheney in a skirt already? Darth daughter Liz.
SFAW
@redshirt:
As long as it’s not a lobster sanctuary, I’m OK with that.
@redshirt:
Well, when I was a kid, the slimy red (or green) seaweed went out to hyar. And the water caused almost-permanent knots in your calf muscles. Mine just unknotted a couple of weeks ago, and that was from 1963.
I used to go to Pine Point every summer as a kid. Loved it then, would love it now. 20 years from now, however, will probably only be able to get there by boat. Thanks, Obama!
boatboy_srq
@Omnes Omnibus: He could be in a gulag / Or a blind man with a cane / P’raps he died in a car crash years ago…
redshirt
@boatboy_srq:
Pine Point is in basically an inlet, as you could see how the seaweed was all driven into that corner, where just a mile up the beach in a more open spot, there was little seaweed.
This stuff wasn’t “kelpy”; it was a red mush. Like sludge. I can’t recall ever seeing seaweed like it before.
What a day though. I took my 4 year old niece pretty far out into the ocean at her request, and she went under water a couple of times from waves and handled it like a champ. We spent 2 hours out there. I was a wrinkled prune when we finally left the water.
Another Holocene Human
@Peale: The ones that accuse others of doing things are usually doing those things themselves.
eta: I mean unjustly and to gain advantage for themselves, not, say, following an investigation
Gimlet
Where can those Tea-Partiers be getting money to keep the movement alive? Hmm..
Conservatives at the Values Voter Summit in Washington cheered the coming end of House Speaker John Boehner’s reign
“What a great day for America,” said conservative political activist David Bossie, president of Citizens United. He predicted there would be “new conservative leadership that will bring a conservative agenda” to the House of Representatives.
“There’s a frustration across this country,” Cruz said at the event. “It is volcanic. And it’s not complicated to understand why. … Every election, politicians promise to fight for conservative principles, and then the day after the election they come to Washington and they don’t fight for any of the principles they said they would.”
ThresherK
@Omnes Omnibus: But who is our William Shatner?
Omnes Omnibus
@ThresherK: We are all William Shatner and he is DougJ.
Gimlet
I thought Huckabee and Cruz were just being bipartisan when they showed up at the courthouse.
A county clerk in Kentucky who was briefly jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples said on Friday that she and her family have switched to the Republican Party because the Democrats no longer represented them.
Another Holocene Human
@SFAW: There are racist jerks in the Boston Globe’s comments sections.
The RW has taken over online newspaper comments. They troll and drive the nice people and the moderates and the people who like to have a reasonable exchange of ideas away. That leaves the LW troll types to do battle with them, but sooner or later (sometimes, but not always, helped along by RW-biased mods), the RWNJs become the majority. Frankly, it really only takes one determined one to ruin a comments section (see: MotherJones or NPR.com), so there don’t have to be that many to turn a local newspaper comments section into a scorched earth wasteland.
RW racist trolls don’t exactly typify MJ subscribers, or npr listeners, etcet.
PS: and Black publications get absolutely fucking divebombed by white trolls
Another Holocene Human
@Mike in NC: Newt? Tanned?
Maybe wife #3 could take him along to the tanning salon, I suppose.
boatboy_srq
@redshirt: Eew. That sounds nasty. I haven’t seen anything that messy. And nothing agro or industrial up the Nonesuch that would produce something that nasty besides a couple golf courses, either.
p.a.
@ThresherK: He’s the obsolete interrogator/judge in the other B Meredith TZone episode.
p.a.
AAAaaaaaaannnnndddd the Yertle deathwatch begins. The Fascpublican Night of Long Knives continues.
debbie
@schrodinger’s cat:
Liz isn’t as good as her dad or Carly at flat-out lying. She needs to be beside her father to even attempt it.
Major Major Major Major
Il Papa has a new prog rock album out
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/pope-francis-to-release-pop-rock-album-wake-up-20150925
NotMax
As the Speaker does not have to be member of the House, who’s free?
Let’s see…
Rick Perry
Sarah Palin
Dubya
Mitt Romney
Dick Cheney
Boggles, the mind does.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Trentrunner: Unless I’m mistaken, even if that bill passes the House, it would have to pass the Senate again because it passed the Senate in the previous Congress (113th – we’re now in the 114th). The clock gets reset when a new Congress starts.
It’s hard to see the Senate passing such a thing now with the Republicans now in control and an election coming up.
Cheers,
Scott.
The Pale Scot
@Roger Moore: Unsullied?
I can’t resist,
http://gameoflaughs.com/the-new-leader-of-the-unsullied/
NotMax
Arrrrrrrrrgh.
Power went out for 2 seconds.
Just long enough to have to reset all the digital clocks.
redshirt
@NotMax: So annoying. I get “blips” once a month or so which will reset some clocks, and not others.
Is power expensive in Hawaii? What generates power there? Imported oil? Seems like wind and solar power would be big winners on the islands.
Roger Moore
@goblue72:
That’s a bit unfair. There was one thing that was stacked decisively against Fiorina, which was the electorate. Look at the rest of the races for state-wide office. Brown beat Whitman 53.8 to 40.9, Newsome beat Maldonado (R incumbent) 50.2 to 39.0, Bowen (D incumbent) beat Dunn 53.2 to 38.2, Chiang (D incumbent) beat Strickland 55.2 to 36.1, Lockyer (D incumbent) beat Walters 56.5 to 36.2, Harris beat Cooley 46.1 to 45.3, and Jones beat Villines 50.6 to 37.6. That’s a straight-up thrashing. The AG race was the only one that was remotely close, and the Democratic incumbents won by 15-20%. Fiorina was actually doing pretty well to lose by only 10%.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: Triple the US average. Solar, wind, and imported petro.
I know it’s a national park, but some turbines on top of those oozing sores they have all over the big island would be pretty green.
Major Major Major Major
@Roger Moore: I loved the Brown campaign that year.
He didn’t have one, because he knew he didn’t need one. I can only remember one ad he ran, which was in response to Whitman’s “When I first came to California, it seemed like anything was possible..” ad. His response was Gee, who was governor then again?
NotMax
@redshirt
Expensive downplays it. Exorbitant is more like it.
Diesel from Indonesia was the main source of generation for a long, long time. Biomass (bagasse from sugar cane harvesting) and wind have since become important contributors. County finally passed a ruling mandating working to full sustainable sources for power generation. Hoping that will include utilizing tidal generation to as is done in some of the more forward-thinking European countries, which would seem obvious, but isn’t yet in any of the planning.
Was pleasantly surprised to find that, after buying a brand new big screen TV at Xmas time and changing nothing else, my power bill has consistently been at least $30 a month less. Old TV was apparently voracious.
D58826
The only difference between the teaparty crazies and the(cough) moderates (cough) is the teaparty want to cut the head off of government and the ‘moderates’ want to bleed it to death slowly. Its all about tactics not end result.
Roger Moore
@Major Major Major Major:
Best. Ad. Ever. Sharp, to the point, and eviscerated Whitman’s point.
@NotMax:
I would think Hawaii would also be a natural place for geothermal.
redshirt
@Roger Moore:
Indeed. And I wonder about tidal power – just because you have oceanfront doesn’t mean tidal power will work. But I don’t know the particulars in Hawaii.
I do know the Bay of Fundy off the coast of Maine could be the greatest tidal power site in the world IF…. if anyone built it. There’s a demonstration project underway now.
The Pale Scot
@redshirt:
It’s called dirty power, basically the lines between you and the power source can’t maintain steady amps, voltage and wavelength?. You can get a device from the power company to modulate it, for a price.
redshirt
@The Pale Scot: It’s not a problem. In fact, I have been real surprised at the quality of the power here, given my location. Moving in I expected a lot more outages.
The Pale Scot
@redshirt:
Besides outages dirty power also puts too much juice in the stream. I live in FL, the one way circuit breaker in my AC blew and the control board in the washing machine fried. If I had had any electronics on, they would have been fried also.
PS no T-storms for 20 miles
Matt McIrvin
@Germy Shoemangler:
Meaningless question. I’d answer yes! There are plenty of religious positions that are dealbreakers. I wouldn’t vote for a Scientologist or for most religious fundamentalists of any sort.