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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Russiagate Open Thread: What Happens to People with A Rep for Not Paying Their Lawyers

Russiagate Open Thread: What Happens to People with A Rep for Not Paying Their Lawyers

by Anne Laurie|  September 28, 20175:48 pm| 224 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Russiagate, Trump Crime Cartel, Assholes, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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ABBE LOWELL FORWARDED A LETTER FROM THE SENATE TO THE EMAIL PRANKSTER, WHO SENT IT TO CNN https://t.co/S74AV1tf0H pic.twitter.com/SgaI9qML1q

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) September 28, 2017

Or maybe it’s just that his lawyers have no faith in Young Jared’s veracity? Via CNN [warning – autoplay]:

In his closed interview with the staff of the Senate intelligence committee, White House senior adviser and presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner did not share the existence of his personal email account, which he has used for official business, CNN has learned.

CNN has also learned that the chair and vice chair of the committee were so unhappy that they learned about the existence of his personal email account via news reports that they wrote him a letter via his attorney Thursday instructing him to double-check that he has turned over every relevant document to the committee including those from his “‘personal email account’ described to the news media, as well as all other email accounts, messaging apps, or similar communications channels you may have used, or that may contain information relevant to our inquiry.”…

The emphasis in the letter on “all other” personal accounts not known by the committee would seem to be a reflection of the frustration the committee leaders feel with that fact that Kushner was not up-front about the existence of his personal email account and their desire for him to cover the bases of all his possible communications avenues when responding to their letter. This issue could become more serious if there emerge any emails or communications related to the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election that Kushner has not turned over, and whether he did so with the express purpose of concealing information from the committee…

Kushner has been criticized in the past for initially not disclosing more than 100 contacts with foreign leaders including those from Russia, as well as ownership of a multimillion dollar tech company with links to Goldman Sachs and businessmen Peter Thiel and George Soros. Kushner was also one of three top campaign officials or surrogates who failed to disclose a June 2016 meeting with a woman billed as being with the Russian government and having incriminating information on Hillary Clinton.

What can he say, he’s just a very private fella…

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  1. 1.

    encephalopath

    September 28, 2017 at 5:52 pm

    Wait… why would the email application auto-fill the the address of the prankster? Unless, of course, the lawyer had been communicating with the fake Kushner previously. No email application I’ve ever used puts people in your address book just because some spam showed in your inbox.

    How much correspondence has the Kushner legal team had with UK Kushner impersonators?

  2. 2.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    In any other administration, he’d be in jail by now.

    But with this illegitimate regime, he’s still sucking taxpayer money.

  3. 3.

    Baud

    September 28, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    I hope Mueller runs an undercover sting operation on Trump.

  4. 4.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    @Baud:

    I hope Mueller runs an undercover sting operation on Trump.

    Why?

  5. 5.

    A Ghost to Most

    September 28, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    Jared had the role models he needed to become the, whatever he is, he is today.

  6. 6.

    A Ghost to Most

    September 28, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    @TenguPhule: Seems the Russians got there first.

  7. 7.

    Baud

    September 28, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    @TenguPhule: I’d like to see the video.

  8. 8.

    Felony Govt (formerly Old Broad in California)

    September 28, 2017 at 5:58 pm

    I went to law school with Abbe Lowell. He was kind of an ass.

  9. 9.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 5:59 pm

    @Baud:

    I’d like to see the video.

    Baud2020: In your Base, Spying on your Doods.

  10. 10.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 5:59 pm

    @Felony Govt (formerly Old Broad in California): I take it that was his best point.

  11. 11.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 28, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    @Baud: Doesn’t seem that’d be that hard with this crew.

  12. 12.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    This is the first time I have ever written this in this — or any — blog, but:

    I feel like buying some popcorn.

    No, I don’t think this means the end of Lying Littledick’s Maladminstration — and I’d break out the bubbly for that anyway — but Kushner is just such a fucking moron, like his FIL, that I really can’t wait to see how he fucks up next.

    I’m also hoping that Uday’s two-week “off the grid” trip to Canadia to go “moose hunting” turns out to be just what I (or perhaps we) think it is, meaning one or more meetings with Russkie граждане in the employ (direct or indirect) of Vladi Vladimirovich, Then I’d buy a shitload of p-corn, and invite you all over.

    ETA Don’t tell Omnes that I wrote that, by the way. It’ll destroy my doomsayer cred in his eyes.

  13. 13.

    lollipopguild

    September 28, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    @TenguPhule: Baud2020 all your basest people belong to me.

  14. 14.

    Anne Laurie

    September 28, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    @encephalopath:

    How much correspondence has the Kushner legal team had with UK Kushner impersonators?

    It was already known that Lowell had been in contact with the prankster pretending to be Kushner. (Lego porn? Really?)

    Lowell either didn’t know enough, or just didn’t bother, taking the prankster’s email out of his ‘reply all’ autofill. So either he’s not the best lawyer for such a complicated situation… or he’s not wasting much time for a client he figures won’t pay him anyway, right?

  15. 15.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 28, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    Is Jared really that stupid?

  16. 16.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 28, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    @encephalopath: Outlook 365 and prior does this. If I receive a direct e-mail from someone (not to a distribution list) Outlook remembers their name.

    This is one reason I kept getting email from an old boss to my personal e-mail account – I’d sent him an update on something while I was on vacation, and even though he never replied to it I still got mail from him sometimes.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    September 28, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    Why is Google showing Glenn Greenwald in my news feed? What’s the point of sharing all my data with them? It’s like they don’t know me at all.

  18. 18.

    lollipopguild

    September 28, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Yes Katie.

  19. 19.

    debbie

    September 28, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    You honestly need to ask?

  20. 20.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 28, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    @debbie: It still surprises me from time to time.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    September 28, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I bet if I email them and said I had dirt on Elizabeth Warren, I could get a meeting.

  22. 22.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    @Baud: Maybe they know you better than you do.

  23. 23.

    encephalopath

    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    Maybe I was just always turning that stuff off when I set up a new account for myself.

    That really does seem like the easiest way to end up sending something to a place it shouldn’t go.

  24. 24.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 28, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    @Baud: Or Hillary, they probably think she’s running again.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    September 28, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Maybe I’m a Bro
    And didn’t know
    It.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    September 28, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Or Chelsea!

  27. 27.

    debbie

    September 28, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    The only surprise is who would win the Stupid Contest, Abbe Lowell or Ty Cobb. Though, there is a distant contender for that award.

  28. 28.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    @SFAW: Popcorn is tasty and high in fiber!

    @Gin & Tonic: See AL above you, this is his lawyer being the idiot.

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Is Jared really that stupid?

    :: whistles to self, drums fingers on table, while attempting to come up with a new and clever way to say “SATSQ” ::

  30. 30.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): If you come up with one, please share it with the blog. It is needed.

  31. 31.

    JGabriel

    September 28, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    CNN via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    CNN has also learned that the chair and vice chair of the committee were so unhappy that they learned about the existence of his [Kushner’s] personal email account via news reports that they wrote him a letter via his attorney Thursday instructing him to double-check that he has turned over every relevant document to the committee …

    Well of course they’re unhappy. Republicans spent the entire election weaponizing the use of private email accounts against Clinton, and now they’re staring down the barrel of gun, aimed at them, that they built and paid for.

  32. 32.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Is Jared really that stupid?

    We can only hope.

  33. 33.

    Felony Govt (formerly Old Broad in California)

    September 28, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    @TenguPhule: Actually, his best point was his curly blond hair, but he is now bald.

  34. 34.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    @JGabriel:

    Republicans spent the entire election weaponizing the use of private email accounts against Clinton, and now they’re staring down the barrel of gun, aimed at them, that they built and paid for.

    The Republicans will sell us the rope we hang them with.

  35. 35.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    @Baud:

    Why is Google showing Glenn Greenwald in my news feed? What’s the point of sharing all my data with them? It’s like they don’t know me at all.

    Or they know you too well.

  36. 36.

    MomSense

    September 28, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    @SFAW:

    I’ll bring the beer.

  37. 37.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    @Baud:

    Maybe I’m a Bro
    And didn’t know
    It.

    What if Baud was one of us?

    Just a slob like one of us?

  38. 38.

    Chyron HR

    September 28, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @debbie:

    The only surprise is who would win the Stupid Contest, Abbe Lowell or Ty Cobb.

    Well, Ty Cobb possesses the secrets of the Pelnish lore, so he has that going for him.

  39. 39.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: But who is the real fool, the fool or the fool that hired him?

  40. 40.

    Miss Bianca

    September 28, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): Is there a longest nym award? I think you just snagged it.

  41. 41.

    A Ghost to Most

    September 28, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    As Urban Radio Networks correspondent April Ryan asked the press secretary for a clarification on what the president intended with his days-long rant about athletes taking a knee during the national anthem, Sanders cut her off by saying, “I don’t think there’s much to clarify — it was pretty black and white there.”

    Clueless, or intentional?

  42. 42.

    geg6

    September 28, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    This fucking guy. I can’t decide if he is really stupid enough to think he can get away with this shit. You’d think the son of a criminal might have learned a thing or two about how not to end up in prison.

  43. 43.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 28, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I’ve seen some longer than that, I think.

    Upgraded my Hackintosh to High Sierra, yeah me.

  44. 44.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: How is it? I asked about it at work and IT laughed.

  45. 45.

    Anne Laurie

    September 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    @geg6:

    This fucking guy. I can’t decide if he is really stupid enough to think he can get away with this shit. You’d think the son of a criminal might have learned a thing or two about how not to end up in prison.

    From everything I’ve read, Jared — like his old man — doesn’t think Daddy did anything wrong, he just got punished by haterz & luzers for being too extremely awesome. If he (and, may it please Murphy the Trickster God, his wife’s father) end up in jail, that will just be more haterz & luzers at work.

    A guy with this mindset (using the term ‘mind’ loosely) doesn’t learn from experience. Especially if — again, from reports — he is maybe not the most engaged intellect ever to have Daddy buy his way into HBS….

  46. 46.

    JGabriel

    September 28, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): Is there a longest nym award? I think you just snagged it.

    Maybe, but I suspect there is someone, out there somewhere, who probably typed in, as their nym on some site, the entire title of the Fiona Apple CD more commonly known as “When the pawn …“.

  47. 47.

    MomSense

    September 28, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Just a jackal on this blog
    Tryin’ to type on his phone

  48. 48.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    @Baud: Cue Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes:

    If You Don’t Know Me By Now

    youtube.com/watch?v=nbaSh8i5ey

    ETA: Take THAT HeleninErie & Satby!!!!!

  49. 49.

    Humdog

    September 28, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: doesn’t “duh” cover SATSQ with only 60% of the characters?

  50. 50.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    Hey, who was it who was giving me a hard time last night because I called out Charlie Pierce for wrongly using “flaunt” when he should have used “flout”?

    Happy to report that he quietly made the change. Don’t know whether he saw my comment here (he is known to lurk at BJ now and then), or a similar comment on his FB page, but I’m happy he’s paying attention.

    Thanks, Charlie!!

    :: waves ::

  51. 51.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @Baud: OMG! Glenn Greenwald ads are gaslighting our Baud! Snap out of it! (Administers type of slap hard boiled detective employs in noire movie). We need you to be strong!!!

  52. 52.

    dmsilev

    September 28, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:

    Clueless, or intentional?

    Yes.

  53. 53.

    Redshift

    September 28, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Is Jared really that stupid?

    From everything I’ve read from people who’ve actually met him, yes. He has that Trump-Dunning-Kreuger thing of thinking he’s brilliant because no one around him is ever allowed to tell him he’s wrong, plus the belief that being rich will always allow him to get away with anything, because it always has.

    Among the many lessons I hope get learned from this maladministration is that rich assholes should stay out of the federal government because it’s the one thing that can still fuck them up.

  54. 54.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    Oh, I don’t think this comes close. I’ve seen nyms here that run to at least three lines, and are laden with emojis and other graphics. Mine is but a passing breeze.

  55. 55.

    MomSense

    September 28, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    @Kathleen:

    I’m totally singing the harmonies and doing the moves.

  56. 56.

    Roger Moore

    September 28, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    @Baud:

    Why is Google showing Glenn Greenwald in my news feed?

    It seems they recently massively increased the amount of random crap they’re putting in feeds. I used to get a small number of carefully tailored items in the feed on my phone. Now it’s full of whatever news items Google has decided I ought to be interested in. They’ve obviously been spying on me because they’re doing better than completely random, but their AI obviously needs a lot of work.

  57. 57.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    @MomSense: On the Internet, nobody knows that you’re a jackal.

  58. 58.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    September 28, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Kushner has been criticized in the past for initially not disclosing more than 100 contacts with foreign leaders including those from Russia

    Waitaminite…

    ONE HUNDRED?

    Why the f’ is he NOT in far, far, far more trouble, let alone still have a security clearance?

    Simply astonishing…

  59. 59.

    Roger Moore

    September 28, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet):

    :: whistles to self, drums fingers on table, while attempting to come up with a new and clever way to say “SATSQ” ::

    Have you tried sarcasm? I’ve heard Balloon-Juice now has a sarcasm font.

  60. 60.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    @MomSense: I’ve always wanted to be a Pip.

  61. 61.

    A Ghost to Most

    September 28, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    @dmsilev: works for me.

    These fucking people. If HRC did this, Price would be demanding prison time.

    IOKIYAR

  62. 62.

    MomSense

    September 28, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Just a stranger on the blog
    Tryin’ to type on his phone

  63. 63.

    Roger Moore

    September 28, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    But who is the real fool, the fool or the fool that hired him?

    Do we have to choose?

  64. 64.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 28, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Seems OK, not a whole lot different than Sierra.

  65. 65.

    Frankensteinbeck

    September 28, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    @Thru the Looking Glass…:
    Because the president is the final authority on security clearances.

  66. 66.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Roger Moore: I believe it has always had a sarcasm font.

  67. 67.

    MomSense

    September 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Kathleen:

    I may have belted this song out a few times when no one else was in the house.

    I don’t want to do wrong

  68. 68.

    Roger Moore

    September 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    On the Internet, nobody knows that you’re a jackal.

    Unless you post at Balloon-Juice. That kind of gives it away.

  69. 69.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Do we have to choose?

    No.

  70. 70.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Or in your case, a sea monster. Probably.

  71. 71.

    Roger Moore

    September 28, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    You’re right. Now they’ve added a non-sarcasm font.

  72. 72.

    japa21

    September 28, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): Who called you out? I am sure he saw your comment and, redfaced, corrected his error.

  73. 73.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @TenguPhule: I thought that was everybody.

  74. 74.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Unless you post at Balloon-Juice. That kind of gives it away.

    Landshark!

  75. 75.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: No, that’s DougJ.

  76. 76.

    Hal

    September 28, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    Just when you thing you’ve seen the stupidest fucking think ever on social media:

    Katie Pavlich
    Katie Pavlich @KatiePavlich
    Or how about when Michelle Obama voted for Barack over Hillary? Did she “vote against her own voice” by not voting for a woman?

    Like, the fuck?! Conservatives are so horrific at analogy.

  77. 77.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @Hal:

    Conservatives are so horrific at analogy.

    Cue the Libertarians.

  78. 78.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @MomSense: A friend of mine just saw her in Lawrenceburg, Indiana and said she was fantastic and looked gorgeous.

  79. 79.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    @TenguPhule: DougJ is everybody?

  80. 80.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Hal: Sounds like a David Shrillrota tweet. They must use the same pissed off 6th grader to compose their tweets.

  81. 81.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    DougJ is everybody?

    Were you not aware of it?

    It is one of Balloon Juice’s oldest traditions.

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    September 28, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): I didn’t call you out, but I did reply that to err is human, to forgive, divine. Is that what you were thinking of?

  83. 83.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: We are all Doug J.

  84. 84.

    MomSense

    September 28, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    @Kathleen: m
    Those old school performers are amazing.

  85. 85.

    jl

    September 28, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    @Baud:

    ” I hope Mueller runs an undercover sting operation on Trump. ”

    That would be great, if Meuller gets the goods. Baud 2020! promised to stay away from ideas, but I’ll give a pass on this one.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    September 28, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    @Kathleen: Did you see the (I think it was) Saturday Night Live episode from decades ago, where they just had the Pips on, doing the background and no one at the mic up front who would have sung the lead? It was funny.

    edit: without Gladys Knight.

  87. 87.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 28, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: We are all part of the BorgDougJ collective.

  88. 88.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Yup, that was it. Sorry, couldn’t remember who had commented on my little pedantic rant last night. And I meant nothing offensive or negative by the term “called out” — just remembered there was a brief exchange.

  89. 89.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    Touting his intention to cut costs in wasteful military spending, Trump criticized the Navy’s program to replace its steam-based catapult system on aircraft carriers with a digital one. He compared the digital catapult system, called the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System, to the digital seat controls in a car.

    “It’s like when you get a new car and you have to be a computer genius to fix your seat, right?” he said. “The seat’s moving all over the place, it’s unbelievable.”

    It was Tuesday. It feels like forever.

  90. 90.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    @Kathleen: I thought we were all Georgians.

    @TenguPhule: He’s back on the fucking steam thing again?

  91. 91.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    @MomSense: I’ve seen Kool & The Gang, Huey Lewis & News, Doobie Brothers – and, yes, they all worked their asses off. Their energy and enthusiasm after years and years of performing the same songs were amazing. They’re glad they can still perform and draw crowds and it shows.

  92. 92.

    jl

    September 28, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    @Roger Moore: They’ve decided I want to buy large food items over Amazon. Is it the huge brains at Google doing that?

    Side of aged beef. Hundred pound wheel of cheese. Industrial size batches of high quality pastry cream (frozen, delivered overnight).
    Are they trolling me on the difficult time I have controlling my weight, or do they think I will buy that stuff?

    Edit: I am tempted. Especially the pastry cream. I think it is some half-way made stuff, you defrost it and whip it up. I am picky about pastry cream. But, if I don’t like it, what am I going to do with the rest of the ten or whatever gallon bucket of it?

    Edit2: I only buy technical books online. And specialized software packages. Maybe they are desperate to find something, anything I will buy. Or punishing me for not buying. I dunno. Now I have endless silly internet clickbait come-ons. Is that Google ad placement too?

  93. 93.

    Boatboy_srq

    September 28, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    @Redshift: Assumes Lord Dampnut and his cronies will leave a government effective for such a task.

  94. 94.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @MomSense:

    I’ll bring the beer.

    I like the cut of your jib, kid.

  95. 95.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @WaterGirl: No, I did not. But remember David Gregory’s back up dancing to Karl Rove’s “rap” at on the of DC Correspondent dinners? I used to say Gregory was one of Karl Rove’s “Pimps”. Some blogger – might be Pierce – still refers to Gregory as “Dancin’ Dave” to this day.

  96. 96.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Keeping with the Gladys Knight theme (h/t Mom Sense), we are all Doug J on the Midnight Train to Georgia.

  97. 97.

    Doug R

    September 28, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    @SFAW: They know Canada is one of the five eyes, right?
    Probably surveilling any Russian assets?

  98. 98.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    @jl: If I were Amazon, I’d for sure have my model occasionally give people left-field suggestions like that.

  99. 99.

    jl

    September 28, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: They are always watching you So, look forward to the 100 pound wheel of gourmet, aged, Gouda. Only about a thousand dollars. Cheap.

  100. 100.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @JGabriel:

    , the entire title of the Fiona Apple CD more commonly known as “When the pawn …“.

    Hoagy Carmichael is rolling over in his grave.

    [Since it’s a pretty obscure reference, Google “I’m a Cranky Old Yank”]

  101. 101.

    Tenar Arha

    September 28, 2017 at 7:39 pm

    @TenguPhule: Did you see the LGM post on the inability of in air refueling for the replacements for Air Force One. *headdesk*

  102. 102.

    Quinerly

    September 28, 2017 at 7:39 pm

    @Anne Laurie:
    I didn’t understand Lowell taking this case in the first place. I’m sure we all remember him as Chief Minority Counsel to the Dems during Bill’s impeachment, plus years ago Lowell ran for office in Maryland as a Dem. Tonight, I finally checked his Wiki page to try to game out the puzzle in my mind. Recently, he’s represented Charles Keating, Jack Abramoff, and John Edwards. Enough said.

  103. 103.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    @jl:

    gourmet … Gouda

    Unpossible.

    What’s next, “gourmet Velveeta”?

  104. 104.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @jl: I have top-of-the-line anti-tracking stuff on this particular browser, so they might not know about your wheel of cheese experience, but of course it’s their job to beat those services too.

  105. 105.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 28, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @TenguPhule: If Il Donaldo has driven a car himself in the last decade, I’l buy this whole thread a round.

  106. 106.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @Doug R:

    They know Canada is one of the five eyes, right?
    Probably surveilling any Russian assets?

    One can only hope.

  107. 107.

    dmsilev

    September 28, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    @jl: Years ago, I bought some random thing from Amazon and was told that people who had bought that had also bought ‘Clean underwear from The Gap’. So many questions. For instance, does this mean The Gap also sells dirty underwear?

  108. 108.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    He’s back on the fucking steam thing again?

    Sadly, yes.

  109. 109.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    If Il Donaldo has driven a car himself in the last decade, I’l buy this whole thread a round.

    Careful what you wish for.

  110. 110.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    @Tenar Arha:

    Did you see the LGM post on the inability of in air refueling for the replacements for Air Force One.

    Can’t do LGM since they decided to change displays. I’m guessing its bad though.

  111. 111.

    Steeplejack

    September 28, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet):

    I didn’t see anybody call you out, but I was silently cheering you. I saw Pierce’s column and thought about leaving a comment over there, but I couldn’t summon the energy. He also had one other semi-howler in that column that I can’t remember now.

    Oh, I know. It was in his big finish. He said something like “If you voted for Trump [or something something] you deserve anything that goddamn happens to you.” That just jangles incredibly. It should be “You deserve any goddamn thing that happens to you.” That scans.

  112. 112.

    Boatboy_srq

    September 28, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Sounds like the typical middle-aged-or-older, technodysfunctional attorney to me. Enamoured of the gadgetry, but too inattentive to use it properly or recogmize that it won’t work with the rest of his office equipment.

  113. 113.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 28, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    @SFAW: a) that’s not a car; b) he’s not driving it.

  114. 114.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    Via CNN:

    Russia is warning the United States: Back off our media.

    The country’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova issued a warning Thursday that Russia would retaliate if U.S. authorities took action against their government-funded media outlets in the U.S. RT and Sputnik. Every act, she said, will be met with a response.

    “Russia is dedicated to all international statues and norms regarding the freedom of speech and proved that on many occasions,” Zakharova said at her weekly briefing. “When it comes down to a fight with no rules, when the law is twisted and turned into an instrument for the destruction of a TV company, every step against a Russian media outlet will be met with a corresponding response. And whom this response will be aimed at, that is what Washington needs to figure out well. The clock is ticking.”

    Golly Gee, someone has a bee up her bonnet.

  115. 115.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    He said something like “If you voted for Trump [or something something] you deserve anything that goddamn happens to you.” That just jangles incredibly. It should be “You deserve any goddamn thing that happens to you.” That scans.

    I noticed that, slightly, and it made me itch, slightly, but the flout/flaunt thing sent me right round the curve and I didn’t bother with lesser offences. In a perfect world, of course….

  116. 116.

    JMG

    September 28, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    Lowell defends the people in the most trouble because they are the people who pay defense attorneys the most money. It’s just business. He wasn’t gonna become a public defender in Baltimore or anything like that. Since he’s not a chump, and isn’t really worried about collecting on his bill, I think this “mistake” was because Kushner has been lying to him, Lowell knows it, and took this means of showing how that could lead to Allenwood, Danbury or Lewisburg.

  117. 117.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I was silently cheering you

    I own, and often wear, a tee-shirt with the slogan “I AM SILENTLY CORRECTING YOUR GRAMMAR” on the front. Every now and then I wear it when I’m working at the library. The librarians all love it.

  118. 118.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    @Anne Laurie: maybe J-Kush really is into lego porn.

  119. 119.

    John Revolta

    September 28, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @SFAW: I’m gonna do this from memory:

    I’m a cranky old Yank in a clanky old tank
    On the streets of Yokohama with my Honolulu mama
    Doin’ those beat-o, beat-o, dead on my feet-o
    Hirohito blues

    I haven’t heard that in maybe 30 years. Now how come I can’t remember somebody’s name five goddamn minutes after I meet them?

  120. 120.

    lollipopguild

    September 28, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    @SFAW: I believe Kroger sells gourmet Velvetta. “Specially enhanced Velvetta to make your Velvetta experience just that more special!” You do not like velvetta? Commie!

  121. 121.

    Fair Economist

    September 28, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Russia is warning the United States: Back off our media.

    The country’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova issued a warning Thursday that Russia would retaliate if U.S. authorities took action against their government-funded media outlets in the U.S. RT and Sputnik. Every act, she said, will be met with a response.

    What will they do? Block US mass media in Russia? If we stop Russian agents from broadcasting in the US, they’ll stop Russian agent manipulated media from broadcasting in Russia?

    Don’t throw me in that briar patch!

  122. 122.

    John Revolta

    September 28, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @WaterGirl: I remember that- it was hilarious! They did all the steps and shit……………”Too much for the man……………..Woo woooo!”

    I think it was on the great but short lived Richard Pryor Show.

  123. 123.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @John Revolta:
    Nice job!

    One minor (possible) correction: I believe it’s “beat-o, beat-o, flat-on-my-seat-o” — but I’ll step out for a moment to check

    .
    .
    yeah, my version is the right one. But you still get a prize. Maybe Gin & Tonic will but you a round?

  124. 124.

    Steeplejack

    September 28, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (blah blah blah change it already):

    I AM SILENTLY CORRECTING YOUR GRAMMAR

    I’m living it every day.

  125. 125.

    Roger Moore

    September 28, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @Hal:

    Conservatives are so horrific at analogy.

    It’s not so much that they’re bad at analogies as it is that they’re trying to justify awful positions. When there are no good arguments in favor of your position, you’re stuck pushing bad arguments.

  126. 126.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    @lollipopguild:

    I believe Kroger sells gourmet Velvetta.

    Now you’re just fuckin’ with me.

  127. 127.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I’m living it every day.

    Not so “SILENTLY,” though, amirite?

  128. 128.

    Steeplejack

    September 28, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet):

    I had a good T-shirt in my IT consulting days:

    I read your e-mail.

    Informative or ominous, depending on tense.

  129. 129.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    (blah blah blah change it already)

    My nymism proceeds at its own pace.

  130. 130.

    John Revolta

    September 28, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    What will they do?

    You mean, what will they do that’s worse than what they pulled last November?

    For God’s sake, don’t let’s try and find out!!

  131. 131.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (apparently trying to make a clean break from being a Mob Enforcer):

    The librarians all love it.

    Well, except for the ones who pronounce it “Lie-berry.”

  132. 132.

    John Revolta

    September 28, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @SFAW: Close enough for jazz!

  133. 133.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet):

    Four full lines on my cell phone display. Four lines.

  134. 134.

    Corner Stone

    September 28, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    Someone needs to put a gun to Mattie Duppler’s head and ask her again about this tax plan.

  135. 135.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    @lollipopguild:

    “Velvetta” reminds me of a lovely short-story mystery series from 40 or so years ago, about a specialty detective named Nick Velvet. His real surname was Velvetta, but he shortened it because he didn’t want to be thought of as a cheese-like product. Edward D. Hoch was the author, and the stories always dealt with the theft of intrinsically worthless things. No diamonds, or valuable papers, or high-priced cars or furs — just things like one or two letters off a sign in front of an abandoned building, or a week-old newspaper, or something equally innocuous. Velvet always had to figure out why the client would pay his high fee for stealing something of no value. Clever plotting.

    ETA: Pretty sure I first read most of them in Ellery Queen’s Mystery Magazine, although they may have been anthologised in paperback at some point. Not even sure EQMM is still publishing.

  136. 136.

    Corner Stone

    September 28, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    Call me crazy but I do not want a WH Cabinet HHS Sec who can afford to write a million dollar check to reimburse travel costs. I know lots of them are wealthy, on both sides, but they can’t possibly know what real life is like if that’s just a check they can toss off.

  137. 137.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I thought he said he’d reimburse for the seat cost, not the cost of the charter flight itself?

  138. 138.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Four full lines on my cell phone display. Four lines.

    You break my heart. Talk to Mumphrey, or the Canadian Anchor Baby.

  139. 139.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    @SFAW:

    Well, except for the ones who pronounce it “Lie-berry.”

    Some do, but only in Febuary. Which usually occurs during nucular winter.

  140. 140.

    Corner Stone

    September 28, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    @SFAW: I don’t actually believe anything he says so I guess we’ll see.

  141. 141.

    dmsilev

    September 28, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone): Would a bigger phone help?

  142. 142.

    Roger Moore

    September 28, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    @SFAW:

    Unpossible.

    What’s next, “gourmet Velveeta”?

    You need to try to genuine aged Dutch Gouda. It’s one of the world’s great hard cheeses. And, FWIW, you can make something very like Velveeta, at least in terms of its melting characteristics, from just about any cheese, so you could make a gourmet “Velveeta”.

  143. 143.

    rikyrah

    September 28, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    I will say this – don’t come for Jane Fonda if she hasn’t sent for you

    ………………………………………………………

    Jane Fonda’s Death Stare to Megyn Kelly Soothed My Soul

    Y’all. Y’ALL. In these times of dumpster fire, joy must come wherever we can find it and I have found glee today!

    Megyn Kelly, white privilege Barbie, has a new morning show on NBC.
    Those fools over there chose her over Tamron Hall, so you know I already wasn’t wishing the show well. Add to the fact that Megyn ain’t got the good sense God gave a goat and what you have is a “get busy, karma” holiday party.

    Jane Fonda got a new movie she’s starring with Robert Redford, called Our Souls at Night so she decided to grace Megyn with her presence.

    Sometimes, you gotta do lessers massive favors like this.

  144. 144.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    @Corner Stone: Listening to NPR at rush hour: Price is paying for his seat.

    His seat. Period. They made it clear he’s leaving most of the charter charges to the taxpayers.

    Fucker. Although: has that changed? I may not have kept up.

  145. 145.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    @Corner Stone: It was $52,000 and change. Cheap ass fucker will not pay for anything but his own personal seat.

  146. 146.

    rikyrah

    September 28, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    NowThis‏Verified account @nowthisnews

    Rep. Maxine Waters on Jeff Sessions is a must watch.

    twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/913530259676438528

  147. 147.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @Elizabelle: It hasn’t changed.

  148. 148.

    frosty fred

    September 28, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    @Kathleen: Irresistibly reminded of this Nicki Giovanni poem, which I remember her reading in Frederick MD, more years ago than seems likely.

  149. 149.

    rikyrah

    September 28, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    Kenneth P. Vogel‏Verified account @kenvogel

    You know who’s loving Mitch McConnell’s mounting losses? Former @SenatorReid staffers. One, @AJentleson, wrote this:

    twitter.com/kenvogel/status/913481277151547392

  150. 150.

    Corner Stone

    September 28, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    I wish someone would strangle the “Bada Book Bada Boom” guy on live TV.

  151. 151.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    @John Revolta: Same here. I remember lyrics to Lestoil commercial from 1959 and forget if I took my morning medication.

  152. 152.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    @John Revolta: Now I vaguely remember that. I will have to google it.

  153. 153.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    @TenguPhule: the fucker speaks:

    “Today, I will write a personal check to the U.S. Treasury for the expenses of my travel on private charter planes,” he said in the statement. “The taxpayers won’t pay a dime for my seat on those planes.”

    My seat. Not the pilots, not the lav, not the wings or the engine or the other seats on the chartered jet.

    The Times does not specify, but I would guess Price’s seat is in the vicinity of $2,500/flight, if that, which is not 10% of the total charge. Anyone else seen how much these flights cost? Recall: one of them was 130 miles. Asshole could have been driven there, in an SUV, sipping champagne and noshing on caviar in the backseat. For way less. No pilots. No avgas.

  154. 154.

    Corner Stone

    September 28, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    @rikyrah: Would have read better if he had titled it Sooper Geeenieus.

  155. 155.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: I hit mute as soon as he’s on. It’s the most irritating commercial out there. I bet it gets people to change the channel or turn the set off.

    Memorable, but awful.

  156. 156.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @Elizabelle: Last estimate was $420,000 (And those are just the flights we know of from FOIA requests).

    He’s offering $52,000.

    Let that sink in for a moment.

  157. 157.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): That sounds like an extended Bob and Ray sketch.

  158. 158.

    rikyrah

    September 28, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    What the elimination of the Estate Tax would mean for Dolt45 and others

    twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/913515458057383943

  159. 159.

    rikyrah

    September 28, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    Democrats just keep winning Republican seats they shouldn’t be winning
    CNN

    By Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

    Updated 12:13 PM ET, Thu September 28, 2017

    Roy Moore’s victory in Alabama dominated the news on Wednesday. But, it was two far less high-profile races on Tuesday night — one in Florida, one in New Hampshire — that may well give us the best indication of where we are headed in the 2018 midterm elections.
    In Florida, Democrat Annette Tadeo won a Republican-held state Senate district 51% to 47%. In New Hampshire, Democrat Kari Lerner beat a former Republican state representative to fill a state House district that Donald Trump won by 23 points last November.
    Those twin wins make it eight Republican-controlled state legislative seats that Democrats have flipped in 2017 alone. (Republicans flipped a Democratic state House seat in Louisiana earlier this year although Democrats didn’t even field a candidate in that race.)

    That means that of the 27 Republican-held state legislative seats that have come open in 2017 to date, Democrats have now flipped almost 30% of them — a remarkable number in any circumstance but especially so when you consider the average Trump margin in these seats in 2016 was 19 points.

  160. 160.

    Steeplejack

    September 28, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Why, I oughta . . .

  161. 161.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Would a bigger phone help?

    Or rotating 90° to landscape mode?

  162. 162.

    frosty

    September 28, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    @Baud: Tom Lehrer reference?

  163. 163.

    rikyrah

    September 28, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    Noam Scheiber‏ @noamscheiber

    Morning: Supreme Crt agrees to hear case that wld cripple public unions

    Lunchtime: Gorsuch talks to group funded by same ppl funding case

  164. 164.

    Teddys Person

    September 28, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @rikyrah: I can’t even with these Rethugs. They all have more money than they know what to do with but still want more. Here’s a palate cleanser about a lovely young man who just came into some money.

  165. 165.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    @frosty fred: Oh, that poem is perfect. She grew up in Cincinnati.

  166. 166.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Yup.

    TPM:

    An HHS spokesperson later told TPM in an email that “Secretary Price will write a personal check to the US Treasury for $51,887.31. The taxpayers won’t pay a dime for his seats on charter planes.”

    Politico exposed upwards of $400,000 in taxpayer dollars spread across dozens of private charter flights in an investigation last week.

    FTF NYTimes: and note: there’s another $500,000 in jets for Europe jaunts:

    …Politico published a series of reports detailing the secretary’s spending.

    The newspaper said Mr. Price took at least 26 flights on private jets, including to Nashville, where his son lives, and where Mr. Price owns a condominium, and to St. Simons Island, a Georgia resort area where Mr. Price owns property and recently spoke at a medical conference. Mr. Price also booked a charter flight that included a leg to Philadelphia from Dulles International Airport in Virginia, a distance of about 130 miles. Mr. Price told Mr. Baier that all were undertaken with his agency’s approval.

    Mr. Baier [of Fox News] pressed him on the cost of that travel — which Politico estimated at over $400,000, a number that has not been disputed — and asked why Mr. Price had only offered to pay back only $51,887. Mr. Price said that amount covers the cost of his seat on the trips, and the total bill remains under review.

    But there’s more: jets cost is up to a million:

    On Thursday night, Politico reported that the White House approved Mr. Price flying on United States military aircraft to travel to Europe, Asia and Africa for official events, at a cost of more than $500,000. The military flights were approved by Joe Hagin, a White House deputy chief of staff, an administration official confirmed, and Raj Shah, a White House spokesman, said such travel “is sometimes an appropriate and necessary use of resources.”

    Combined, the total cost to taxpayers for Mr. Price’s flights comes to more than $1 million, according to Politico.

    Even odds Trump fires Price’s ass, and some will praise Trump’s “ethics” and concern for taxpayer money. (Although, maybe not. The Secret Service has already exhausted its budget; Trump family is profligate… everyone who’s not a Fox jackass knows this.)

    Unless — what might Price have on Trump and admin?

  167. 167.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    @Kathleen:

    That sounds like an extended Bob and Ray sketch.

    Wally Ballou! International House of Toast!

  168. 168.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    @Corner Stone: Take a number.

  169. 169.

    burnspbesq

    September 28, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    Re Lowell’s email: lots of good lawyers are dunderheads when it comes to technology, and the IT folks at law firms more often than not don’t have the clout to protect the lawyers from their own folly. Which is why there are poorly-attended programs on the ethical duty of technical compliance at lots of conferences these days. I probably have the slides from said presentation at the ABA Tax Section meeting two weeks ago, but if you’re guessing that I haven’t looked at them yet, you get a cookie.

  170. 170.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Morning: Supreme Crt agrees to hear case that wld cripple public unions

    Lunchtime: Gorsuch talks to group funded by same ppl funding case

    Dinner: Gorsuch found dead in a dark alley, believed to have committed suicide by stabbing himself in the back. Repeatedly.

  171. 171.

    TS

    September 28, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Politico just added a couple of overseas flights – those major cities with no commercial airline flights
    “Accompanied by his wife, the HHS secretary journeyed to Geneva, Berlin, Beijing, Tokyo and other cities for events.”

    Price’s wife, Betty, accompanied him on the military flights, while other members of the secretary’s delegation flew commercially to Europe.
    HHS spokeswoman Charmaine Yoest said Price has reimbursed the agency for the cost of his wife’s travel abroad, but declined to say when he did so.

    Tom Price used military jets

    They just hate government waste, government employees and those they are meant to serve – but they love living the high life on the government tab

  172. 172.

    burnspbesq

    September 28, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @rikyrah:

    So much for giving a shit about the appearance of impropriety.

  173. 173.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    @TS: At this point I’ve lost count of the number of Scandalgates we’re on now.

  174. 174.

    Kathleen

    September 28, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): I saw the nym “‘ly Ballou” on a thread the other night and lifted my mouse in a silent toast.
    Also, too, “Ladies Grab Your Seats” with the closing line, “Damn the pop up toaster”.

  175. 175.

    Steeplejack

    September 28, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Yeah, ’cause that plane was definitely flying to his kid’s house in Nashville anyway.

  176. 176.

    TenguPhule

    September 28, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    Trump on Thursday said the federal government is doing “a GREAT job” responding to hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico and suggested the media was not covering his administration’s efforts fairly.

    His comments on Twitter come as Trump has faced strong criticism for not being as engaged in the recovery from Hurricane Maria as he was for other recent hurricanes that hit Texas and Florida. And reviews on the ground in Puerto Rico have been mixed.

    “FEMA & First Responders are doing a GREAT job in Puerto Rico,” Trump said in a series of tweets, referring to the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

    “Massive food & water delivered,” Trump said. “Docks & electric grid dead. Locals trying … really hard to help but many have lost their homes. Military is now on site and I will be there Tuesday. Wish press would treat fairly!”

    Via Wapo.

    He’s doubling down.

  177. 177.

    Tenar Arha

    September 28, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    @TenguPhule: I’m going to block quote a paragraph or two below for you.

    The problem here is generated by Trump’s flat idiocy. The President doesn’t understand why things like sophisticated airplanes cost a lot of money, and he declared that the new Air Force One was too expensive. Of course, sophisticated airplanes DO cost a lot of money, and the USAF is trying to resolve the problem by refraining from equipping the Presidential aircraft with refueling capabilities. In-flight refueling is, literally, one of the most important things that a Presidential aircraft can have, apart from, say, engines and wings. Consequently, even if the USAF buys the two aircraft in their current condition, it will need to retrofit them, at tremendous expense, at some future point with inflight-refueling capability. This expense will, unsurprisingly, run considerably greater than just building it into the damn planes in the first place.

    There is no limit to the amount of taxpayer money you can waste in service of preventing the waste of taxpayer money.

  178. 178.

    germy

    September 28, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    @rikyrah: Interesting and brutal article you linked to:

    If any believers in the Myth remain after the brutal week McConnell just endured, which capped off an unbelievably brutal eight months, they should take this challenge: Name one major legislative accomplishment to McConnell’s credit over the more than 30 years he has been in the Senate. (Last minute deals don’t count.)

    You can’t do it: Unlike former Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid (my former boss) and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, McConnell has never authored a single piece of major legislation that became law, nor has he successfully shepherded a single major bill to passage as leader.

  179. 179.

    Steeplejack

    September 28, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Deep breaths, focus on that Aussie babe in the Trivago ads.

  180. 180.

    Tenar Arha

    September 28, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    @rikyrah: It’s been gif’d already ?????

  181. 181.

    Amir Khalid

    September 28, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    @jl:
    Sounds like they think you run a restaurant.

  182. 182.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 28, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet):

    Great, then my display is 12-13 lines deep, and your nym still takes 2½ of them. Problem solved!

  183. 183.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 28, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    This motherfucker needs to go to jail, forever.

  184. 184.

    efgoldman

    September 28, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    For way less. No pilots. No avgas.

    Rich assholes only get to stay that way by not spending a dime of their own money.

  185. 185.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 28, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I’m making a place for her on my punchable-faces list. (I’m behind on the DVR; just got to 8:12.)

  186. 186.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 28, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    @Tenar Arha: I am completely fine with Trump’s AF1 not having in air refueling ability.

  187. 187.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    @efgoldman: Yes.

    I think Price goes down.

    In happier news, how is the granddaughter time going?

  188. 188.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 28, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Jeez, might have to upgrade her to tumbrel manifest. Wotta tool.

  189. 189.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 28, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @JGabriel:

    Well of course they’re unhappy. Republicans spent the entire election weaponizing the use of private email accounts against Clinton, and now they’re staring down the barrel of gun, aimed at them, that they built and paid for.

    But wait… I NOT OKIYAR?

  190. 190.

    Shana

    September 28, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @jl: And all you have to do is find 99 friends who like gouda!

  191. 191.

    chris

    September 28, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    A million bucks on chartered jets? Chump change!

    Community health centres, on the other hand, cost a lot.

    usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/28/congress-must-act-weekend-9-millimmunity-health-center-f…

    A rusty chain saw is too kind. I’d prefer something lingering, like boiling in oil.

  192. 192.

    ThresherK

    September 28, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): Ah, Nick Velvet! I remember his caper of stealing air. Out of lottery ping-pong balls.

    I went thru all the Ellery Queen novels and many of the mags, and still miss the show starring Jim Hutton and David Wayne.

  193. 193.

    MomSense

    September 28, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    The trump courtesans are exactly the kind of assholes that make me dream of guillotines.

  194. 194.

    efgoldman

    September 28, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    how is the granddaughter time going?

    As expected, she is a delight, but her parents will pay when they get home over the weekend.
    Today we went and met the cows at a local dairy farm (G&T and pa know it – Wright’s) and just had to go in their on-site bakery….
    Right now she’s badly over tired. Mommy and Daddy aren’t here (she’s showing him where she went to school in Western MA) and she’s not used to them not being here when she is. So she’s bounced from our bed to hers to theirs’….

  195. 195.

    Shana

    September 28, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @Steeplejack: I’m fond of the guy in the Trivago ads. Very nice to look at.

  196. 196.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 28, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): Didn’t some foreign potentate recently give us the gift of a Komodo dragon?

  197. 197.

    ThresherK

    September 28, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    @efgoldman: Wright’s Dairy Farm? Our regular holiday visits to folks near ye olde 146 always has a few pies from Wright’s.

  198. 198.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    @efgoldman: Sweet. Maybe little one will sleep in more tomorrow, and you can catch up with her parents over coffee. Moar adventures await.

  199. 199.

    Gravenstone

    September 28, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    @rikyrah: Even better, he gave that talk at a Trump property. Nothing like a little tip o’ the cap to the guy who gave you your lifetime sinecure.

  200. 200.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 28, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    @efgoldman: You went to Wright’s and didn’t bring me back anything? Now I’m pissed.

  201. 201.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    Watching the end of Burns’ Vietnam series. So very sad.

    Amazed anyone from the invaded population ever helps us, given our history.

    We have not done well by our Iraqi translators. South Vietnamese could have warned them about that.

  202. 202.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I don’t know Wrights, but I remember the Newport Creamery from many years back. I heart Rhode Island.

  203. 203.

    raven

    September 28, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    @Elizabelle: Read “Decent Interval” by Frank Snepp

  204. 204.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @raven: Thank you. Will look it up.

    Thinking of you as I watch this. Have missed about half of the series; will catch up later.

  205. 205.

    efgoldman

    September 28, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    @ThresherK:

    Our regular holiday visits to folks near ye olde 146 always has a few pies from Wright’s.

    It is, unfortunately , much, much too close to home.
    OTOH, Crugnale’s, an excellent Italian bakery, is literally right next door to my PT place in the same strip.

  206. 206.

    efgoldman

    September 28, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    You went to Wright’s and didn’t bring me back anything?

    I only drive a Toyota; they wouldn’t let me into Scituate.

  207. 207.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Didn’t some foreign potentate recently give us the gift of a Komodo dragon?

    You mean the Komodo dragon, the world’s largest living lizard, a ferocious carnivore, found on the steep-sloped island of Komodo in the lesser Sunda chain of the Indonesian Archipelago and the nearby islands of Rinja, Padar, and Flores? That one?

  208. 208.

    Another Scott

    September 28, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet): ICWYDT.

    Hehe.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  209. 209.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 28, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @raven: Bought that the week it came out.

    To Elizabelle: PDF of that book is freely downloadable. Since Snepp himself cannot make any money from it (see 444 U.S. 507), you’re not cheating anyone by downloading it.

  210. 210.

    SiubhanDuinne (at some point in the indeterminate future to be known by my real name, Judith Mann Costello, but maybe not quite yet)

    September 28, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    @ThresherK:

    Wow! Can’t believe anyone even remembers the Nick Velvet stories! Not great literature by a long shot, but fun and clever diversions. (I feel the same way about Hugh Pentecost’s “Pierre Chambrun” short stories. Loved them, and must re-read one of these days.)

    My mother subscribed to EQMM as far back as I can remember. And I kept the renewals going for years after she died.

    Yes, I loved the TV series, too.

  211. 211.

    p.a.

    September 28, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    @efgoldman:

    I only drive a Toyota; they wouldn’t let me into Scituate.

    heh. I don’t know where you live in C-land, but I’m betting it ain’t Valley Falls.

  212. 212.

    Tenar Arha

    September 28, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    This just made me squee for this bouquet of 3 adorable kittens with a happy ending in Miami.

    Long shot, but: these kitties were found lost in the street after Hurricane Irma in Miami. They need a home! DM me if interested. twitter.com/TooMuchMe/status/913178264486727680/photo/1

    BY THE WAY it looks like we’ve found them all homes! These kitties thank you all.

  213. 213.

    Tenar Arha

    September 28, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Hopefully it actually won’t be Trump’s (impeachment, resignation, or loses election in 2020 would do ?).

    ETA I forgot the most important part, the wink to indicate I’m trying to be funny).

  214. 214.

    Elizabelle

    September 28, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    I think Price will be fired or will quit, within 7 days time. Maybe sooner. Maybe tomorrow. This is outrageous, and has embarrassed the administration by its nakedness.

    What do you guys think?

  215. 215.

    Corner Stone

    September 28, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    @Elizabelle: I think I want him jailed, to include actual prison time.

    He may resign but Trump can’t fire him. If he does, then what about Pruitt? What about Trump, himself?

  216. 216.

    Regnad Kcin

    September 28, 2017 at 10:47 pm

    @efgoldman: irish riviera, you need yourself a tuna boat

  217. 217.

    J R in WV

    September 28, 2017 at 10:51 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    a) that’s not a car; b) he’s not driving it….

    + c) he can’t drive that, no F’n way!!!

  218. 218.

    J R in WV

    September 28, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    @SFAW:

    You ever hear of those famous Philly (PA) cheesesteak hoagies or whatever they call them? Molten velveeta cheeze whiz… unless you specifically ask for provolone, or some other real cheese they might have in Philly.

    Terrible with cheezewhiz. Terrible!

  219. 219.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 11:21 pm

    @J R in WV:
    I was (un)fortunate enough to go to either Pat’s or Geno’s some years ago. I had never had a Philly cheese steak before then. Nor have I had one since then. Because ….

    when I was in college, we used to get our subs from The Hawk Shops, just down the street. Although filling, their subs were pretty greasy, and we used to joke that the Hawk Bomb was given that name because of what it did to your stomach. But I would take one of The Hawk Shops’ greasiest cheese steak 15 times out of 10 over that crime-against-humanity they serve in Philadelphia.

    The Philly cheese steak is like the Shitgibbon of the small-eatery world. “This is the BEST sandwich in the Universe, and I have the BEST (sort-of) cheese!”

    ETA: In case it wasn’t obvious: yes, I have choked down a Philly cheese steak.

  220. 220.

    SFAW

    September 28, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    a) that’s not a car; b) he’s not driving it.

    Oh, so all of a sudden you care about truth, accuracy, and reality? Friggin’ Lie-beral.

  221. 221.

    J R in WV

    September 28, 2017 at 11:47 pm

    @Tenar Arha:

    Another thing Air Force One requires that the average airliner doesn’t – twice the electrical wiring, all hardened against EMP from a nuclear attack.

  222. 222.

    Feebog

    September 29, 2017 at 12:03 am

    @Corner Stone:

    “What about Trump himself?”

    You are kidding, right?

  223. 223.

    J R in WV

    September 29, 2017 at 12:07 am

    We have a small franchise called Steak Escape, 6″, 9″ foot long. Steak, Chicken, Ham or Turkey, peppers, onions and mushrooms with the meat of the grill while you watch. Provolone. Great fries.

    Malt vinegar, cajun sauce, I’m there every week or two, they know us. I usually get a large fry and a size larger sandwich just because I’m a regular and talk to them.

    That’s a real cheese steak. Wonderful.

  224. 224.

    Anne Laurie

    September 29, 2017 at 1:29 am

    @Major Major Major Major:

    maybe J-Kush really is into lego porn.

    I wouldn’t say this except on a dead thread, but I would not be surprised if Kushner downloaded actual crush porn. Possibly without understanding what the term meant!

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