This just just enraged me. This is appalling. This is immoral. People shouldn’t have to go out scrabbling through the woods to dig up roots to sell just to scrape by because their disability check can’t get them through the month.
Where the hell is the president [sic] on this? These are his people. West Virginia went something like 65% for him. He could get every Democrat in Congress to go along with any kind of plan to help these people. Why isn’t he? It’s obvious: He doesn’t give a good gold-plated shit about them. They aren’t even real to people like him. The only time he thinks about people like this is when he thinks of the “poorly educated”—his words—who voted for him.
Look at the pictures in the story. They wouldn’t be out of place in Honduras. Honduras is a poor, historically politically unstable, exploited country trying to claw its way out of the third world. We don’t have that excuse.
So sick of these Republican bums wrapping themselves in the flag. For people who just love to sneer at Democrats’ feelings, they sure are a sensitive bunch.
@Achrachno: There was a link thru FB to WaPost in Smedley’s first comment.
8.
Ruviana
@Achrachno: Smedley had the link in his first comment. I agree with him completely. I read it Thursday and have been thinking off and on since if I could just send this poor woman like 20 to 50 dollars in cash evrey month, just out of the blue, because it would make such a dramatic impact on her life. She pays half her disability check each month to live in a one room storage shed without plumbing. It’s horrible.
9.
opiejeanne
I’m frustrated with trying to explain that employees pay for their health insurance despite the model where the employer pays all or half. No, it’s all a form of compensation, just like what’s in the paycheck. The employee pays for 100% of those benefits. These people seem to think that those benefits, from health insurance to the length of paid vacations to retirements are all gifts from the benevolent corporation and not another form of compensation in lieu of money in the paycheck.
AARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
10.
Corner Stone
@smintheus: So transparently bogus that it should shame any person that is not still a Trumper.
11.
Ian G.
The Giants are awful. My fantasy teams are awful. I’m already past football season and into hockey season (Islanders had a nice rebound win last night after their awful opening night loss).
Oh, and FSM willing, we’ll have a Cleveland-Houston ALCS on the schedule by the end of tonight.
These people seem to think that those benefits, from health insurance to the length of paid vacations to retirements are all gifts from the benevolent corporation and not another form of compensation in lieu of money in the paycheck.
Corporate PR hacks have for years used that line in their whole “attracting and retaining” the best people possible. Like they are freely offering health coverage out of the goodness of their corporate hearts.
14.
Corner Stone
Big Ben has lost all control of his throwing arm. He’s in Peyton Manning “last year” territory at this point.
15.
Bruuuuce
@Ian G.: Right now the Giants are getting killed by injuries. Collins, Shepard, and now Marshall all limp or carried off the field with ankle injuries. If the ball were round and not oblong, they’d be the Mets.
Not a single mention of Trump in the article. Aren’t these the people Trump promised to help?
17.
Corner Stone
Why are white people with the last name of “James” compelled to name their baby some form of “Jessie”? It doesn’t seem to matter whether they are boy or girl, they all get tagged with that garbage ass name.
18.
Ruviana
@debbie: Reading that article I wondered if these folks even knew there’d been an election. They seemed very isolated and in some sense abandoned.
19.
Corner Stone
@Bruuuuce: I think B Marsh already gave up on this team and doesn’t feel like giving them anything else.
20.
Corner Stone
I like some of these Geico commercials, but the He-Man with Skeletor one is absolute genius.
21.
Amir Khalid
@Corner Stone:
Wasn’t Sandra Bullock once married to one of the many Jesse Jameses descended from the Jesse James?
Flash mob for fascists. Spencer plans to make it a regular thing so they aren’t forgotten.
27.
Corner Stone
@Amir Khalid: I’m not sure about his lineage but that is what he claims, IIRC. He’s a real first grade asshole but actually quite talented. If you like his kind of thing.
28.
Yutsano
@schrodingers_cat: My friend Brendan lives there. He said it was mostly a symbolic nothingburger with bonus overtime for the cops. Hell even the national news is barely noticing.
29.
Kathleen
First, I’m sick of how ubiquitous Peyton Manning is on TV commercials.
Second (Sorry rikyrah and any other BJ Cubs fans) I’m rooting for the Nats to go all the way. I adore Dusty Baker and think he got raw deal in Cincy by fans and management and I really want to see him manage Series winner.
Jesus, how about a straight link to the Washington Post article without the Facebook reach-around? “After the Check Is Gone.”
31.
opiejeanne
@Corner Stone: I know, but people are really in need of education on this.
The argument started because of the birth control issue, of course. Even a couple of people on the Left are arguing with me now, hence my frustration: “Some companies pay half.”
Sorry, I’m feeling very crabby today. Trump news is all bad, yet I can’t look away, and even Joy Reid impersonating Gilbert Gottfried couldn’t improve my mood.
Now I’ve got to hop in the shower and then drive out to Dulles to pick up my friend from Alaska.
34.
opiejeanne
@Kathleen: Used to adore Dusty Baker but he is dead to me after that stunt he pulled in the 6th game of the World Series in 2002.
I’m rooting for the Cubs because I love their manager, Joe Maddon.
As US officials investigate potential collusion between Trump and Moscow, the series of reports by the former UK intelligence official Christopher Steele are casting an ever darker shadow over the president
Saturday 7 October 2017 09.41 EDT
Nine months after its first appearance, the set of intelligence reports known as the Steele dossier, one of the most explosive documents in modern political history, is still hanging over Washington, casting a shadow over the Trump administration that has only grown darker as time has gone by.
It was reported this week that the document’s author, former British intelligence official, Christopher Steele, has been interviewed by investigators working for the special counsel on Russian interference in the 2016 election.
The Senate and House intelligence committees are, meanwhile, asking to see Steele to make up their own mind about his findings. The ranking Democrat on the House committee, Adam Schiff, said that the dossier was “a very important and useful guide to help us figure out what we need to look into”.
The fact that Steele’s reports are being taken seriously after lengthy scrutiny by federal and congressional investigators has far-reaching implications.
36.
Doug R
@Kathleen: My wife, being from Montreal, is a diehard Expos fan. When they moved to DC, they became dead to her.
Our beloved Canucks won last night and my beloved Ospreys are facing the Los Angeles male ? this afternoon.
Good to see the ? back in Los Angeles, but my heart is really now with the Ospreys.
Yesterday I got a series of over-excited texts from my son and his buddy, worried about whether they should decamp to our cabin for a while. They were reacting to yesterday’s BS tweets threatening NK. I calmed them down, told them they could use the cabin (of course, duh) but that from Garden Grove they’re better off heading south if Long Beach or LA is the target. I also told them I don’t believe Kim can deliver any farther out that Guam, which is cold comfort and I’m not sure I’m right. I’m close enough to Seattle that we’re dead if it’s a target, and both daughters live and work in the city.
Rooting for whoever is playing my formerly beloved Chargers. Nothing would give me greater satisfaction than an 0-16 season with horrific attendance in their first dismal year in hated Los Angeles.
40.
Elmo
@Doug R: Tell your wife that this former San Diego Charger fan feels her pain.
41.
Corner Stone
@Elmo: My God. What amount of hate could be in your heart that you would choose to root for the NY Giants?
42.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
trump notices Pence getting attention for what looks (to the mouth-breathers and knuckle-draggers) like a moment decisive-tude. Gets jealous and grabs back spotlight
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @ realDonaldTrump
I asked VP Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespecting our country. I am proud of him and SecondLady Karen.
Josh BarroVerified account @ jbarro 17m17 minutes ago
Hahaha and the president says Pence does what he tells him to do, nice
43.
Doug R
@opiejeanne: One of the reasons we moved to the Okanagan was to get out of the Pacific Northwest subduction zone, but it’s also good to move away from a city which is 125 miles closer to North Korea than Seattle.
44.
Doug R
@Elmo: Yeah, what was that, it’s either 2 or zero teams in LA?
At least the Chargers started in LA. Although was there anything wrong with the Chargers playing in say Legoland?
@schrodingers_cat: One local station called the Nazis “white activists.” Only changed the wording after they got hit with backlash. This reluctance to call them what they are is a huge part of the problem.
50.
mouse tolliver
@smintheus: They wasted tax dollars on security and travel to stage a publicity stunt at a game he had no intention of watching.
51.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I asked the sun to continue rising each morning even though I am being treated so disrespectfully, so very disrespectfully by the late night hosts.
52.
JMG
It’s got to be a very, very, very dull NFL Sunday if the only person to make news at a game is Mike freakin’ Pence.
I follow Mrs. Betty Bowers (America’s Best Christian) on FB. Similarly:
Melania just whispered to me: “Betty, if only I know it that easy to get boring Mike Pence to leave a room, I would have long agos done for him what I never do for the Donald: Get on my knees!”
WordsnStuff @bluelex510
Replying to @no_cut_card
And that bus driver like “welp! Guess what kids? FIELD TRIP!! Wanna see where cops work?” ???
55.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Peter AlexanderVerified account @ PeterAlexander 52m52 minutes ago
FLAG: Was Pence leaving Colts game a political stunt? Reporters were told to stay in van bc “there may be an early departure from the game.”
ETA:
Vaughn HillyardVerified account @ VaughnHillyard
.VP is now currently holding at his Indianapolis hotel. He will fly to California this aftrn after flying from Vegas for this last night.
Matthew YglesiasVerified account @ mattyglesias 33m33 minutes ago
He flew from Vegas to Indianapolis to do a stunt walk-out from an NFL game and its now flying back to California.
How much money did they waste on security for this?
56.
Chet
Yeah if I had to watch the Colts and 49ers I would find an excuse to leave too.
Half marathon in the books. A minute slowe than my best, which I am satisfied with since it was so humid and rainy.
Now watching and rooting for whoever is playing the Jets and Giants.
57.
HeleninEire
OMG the entire look of the site has changed. Is that true or am I drunk?
Hint: both can be true.
I HATE change. Well I moved an entire life 3100 miles so maybe I hate change that I don’t initiate. Yeah; I’m a control freak.
58.
Elmo
@Corner Stone: It’s even worse than you think. I used to go out of my way to root AGAINST the Giants because of how Eli Manning disrespected my Chargers in the 2004 draft. My love for my Chargers was such that I also rooted against his brother Peyton, who had supported him.
And now? 0 and 16, baby!
59.
Amir Khalid
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The purpose of a counter-protest is to get attention. You want the media to show the Vice President protesting the kneeling protesters. Telling the media to stay in the van was grade-A+ stupidity from the White House as usual, or some convoluted sort of petty humiliation of Pence, or …
… I was trying to think of some complicated political manoeuvre by Trump, but my imagination has failed me.
Fantastic find. The photo Pence tweeted today of him with his wife at a Colts game is from 2014. It was all a set-up for a publicity stunt. https://t.co/2ENljH4m6h
And those corporations and employees are not taxed on those health benefits. When people comment to me about not wanting their tax dollars to subsidize my premiums I love to ask them if they want to continue to get the tax breaks on theirs. Come after our subsidies and I will devote my life to taking theirs away. Fuck this meanness.
Also too fuck Mike Pence.
65.
Mike in NC
Just imagine what an interview between Mike Pence and Hugh Hewett would be like. Two extremely boring, white-haired, religious fanatic, ultraconservative white guys. It would have the potential of putting a stadium filled with people asleep.
A couple of recent items in the Washington Post prompted me to want to read some of the excellent work of Russian-born journalist Masha Gessen. First is “The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin” and second will be “The Future Is History: How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia” which just came out.
66.
Hal
All the way from Nevada to Indiana. Even if this wasn’t a stunt what justification could be have for the expense of traveling all that way and back. Watch the game in TV.
67.
Duane
@smintheus: Pence just removed any doubt that he’s every bit the thoughtless baatard Trump is. You’re the Vice-president of the United States. For God’s sake, try to show some class.
68.
Corner Stone
Stillers have one of the most explosive offensive cores in the league and Benny throws 5 INTs against JAX. I’m telling you, his arm is toast.
69.
Davebo
@Cheryl Rofer: He has to take credit for EVERYTHING!
70.
Damned at Random
I’m astonished that people leave an NFL game before it’s over. Given the ticket price, I would stay is the score is 49-0 at halftime in a hailstorm. I’m there until the game is over and I might stay to watch the grounds crew
Honduras is a poor, historically politically unstable, exploited country trying to claw its way out of the third world. We don’t have that excuse.
Actually, political scientists and economists have said for decades that West Virginia is a poor, unstable, exploited state trying to claw its way out of the third world. Most of the state is owned outright by out-of-state corporations, who exert nearly total control over the political arms of state government.
The governor, a Republican who was a Democrat for 9 months to gain election, is a coal man, the son of a coal man, who obviously doesn’t give a shit about poor and deliberately downtrodden WV citizens. And the legislature is controlled by Republlican businessmen.
So you’re wrong, WV is a third world country, right in the middle of the US of A. I know, I’ve lived here my whole long life, except for serving in the Navy and a year at college before I was drafted.
72.
burnspbesq
Scotland. SMH.
Big one tomorrow. Wales-Republic of Ireland. Winner is almost surely in the playoffs. Loser is done.
Last match featured one of the worst tackles you will ever see. Broken tibia AND fibula for Irish captain Seamus Coleman. He is still at least a month away from returning to action.
And the CBS early game was the just as compelling Bengals-Beefalos
76.
West of the Cascades
@Cheryl Rofer: See Mike Stand. See Mike Walk Out. See Mike Roll Over On His Back And Pee On His Belly When His Master Speaks.
77.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@West of the Cascades: Narrator: He and Mother had been practicing that routine for years, never dreaming it would get them a flabby seventy-year-old’s heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
78.
opiejeanne
@MomSense: I had similar stupid arguments about pensions with people in SoCal yapping about how retirement agreements were going to bankrupt all the cities because AAIIIEEEE!
I knew quite a bit about the one they hated on the most, CalPERS and how it was being funded. They did not know that because of investments municipalities had not been required to pay into the retirement program for years. That changed, thanks to W crashing the economy and there were problems with outside investment managers/advisers getting paid ridiculous salaries, but that organization is the bomb and Republicans in CA have wanted to destroy it for years.
Corner Stone
Is it too much to ask for an indictment or twelve? I’m not greedy, just a few to start will do.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I know this has nothing to do with sportsball, and I’m sorry, but I saw this in the paper this morning and I think it should have its own thread.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
This just just enraged me. This is appalling. This is immoral. People shouldn’t have to go out scrabbling through the woods to dig up roots to sell just to scrape by because their disability check can’t get them through the month.
Where the hell is the president [sic] on this? These are his people. West Virginia went something like 65% for him. He could get every Democrat in Congress to go along with any kind of plan to help these people. Why isn’t he? It’s obvious: He doesn’t give a good gold-plated shit about them. They aren’t even real to people like him. The only time he thinks about people like this is when he thinks of the “poorly educated”—his words—who voted for him.
Look at the pictures in the story. They wouldn’t be out of place in Honduras. Honduras is a poor, historically politically unstable, exploited country trying to claw its way out of the third world. We don’t have that excuse.
Achrachno
Are there important links that have disappeared? I’m not understanding anything here so far.
smintheus
Pence: Flag = Trump = troops
So sick of these Republican bums wrapping themselves in the flag. For people who just love to sneer at Democrats’ feelings, they sure are a sensitive bunch.
JPL
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): There was some discussion down below about the extreme poverty in WV. That was an amazing article.
Wapiti
@Achrachno: There was a link thru FB to WaPost in Smedley’s first comment.
Ruviana
@Achrachno: Smedley had the link in his first comment. I agree with him completely. I read it Thursday and have been thinking off and on since if I could just send this poor woman like 20 to 50 dollars in cash evrey month, just out of the blue, because it would make such a dramatic impact on her life. She pays half her disability check each month to live in a one room storage shed without plumbing. It’s horrible.
opiejeanne
I’m frustrated with trying to explain that employees pay for their health insurance despite the model where the employer pays all or half. No, it’s all a form of compensation, just like what’s in the paycheck. The employee pays for 100% of those benefits. These people seem to think that those benefits, from health insurance to the length of paid vacations to retirements are all gifts from the benevolent corporation and not another form of compensation in lieu of money in the paycheck.
AARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
Corner Stone
@smintheus: So transparently bogus that it should shame any person that is not still a Trumper.
Ian G.
The Giants are awful. My fantasy teams are awful. I’m already past football season and into hockey season (Islanders had a nice rebound win last night after their awful opening night loss).
Oh, and FSM willing, we’ll have a Cleveland-Houston ALCS on the schedule by the end of tonight.
p.a.
My Fox game is jets at browns. *place wretching sounds here* I’m off to watch a stream of US national lacrosse team scrimmage Towson.
Corner Stone
@opiejeanne:
Corporate PR hacks have for years used that line in their whole “attracting and retaining” the best people possible. Like they are freely offering health coverage out of the goodness of their corporate hearts.
Corner Stone
Big Ben has lost all control of his throwing arm. He’s in Peyton Manning “last year” territory at this point.
Bruuuuce
@Ian G.: Right now the Giants are getting killed by injuries. Collins, Shepard, and now Marshall all limp or carried off the field with ankle injuries. If the ball were round and not oblong, they’d be the Mets.
debbie
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Not a single mention of Trump in the article. Aren’t these the people Trump promised to help?
Corner Stone
Why are white people with the last name of “James” compelled to name their baby some form of “Jessie”? It doesn’t seem to matter whether they are boy or girl, they all get tagged with that garbage ass name.
Ruviana
@debbie: Reading that article I wondered if these folks even knew there’d been an election. They seemed very isolated and in some sense abandoned.
Corner Stone
@Bruuuuce: I think B Marsh already gave up on this team and doesn’t feel like giving them anything else.
Corner Stone
I like some of these Geico commercials, but the He-Man with Skeletor one is absolute genius.
Amir Khalid
@Corner Stone:
Wasn’t Sandra Bullock once married to one of the many Jesse Jameses descended from the Jesse James?
Achrachno
@Wapiti: Thanks. Found it. My variant color vision tripped me up; link nearly invisible to me.
Bruuuuce
@Corner Stone: Maybe, except he was having a good game today. Just an unfortunate injury piled on top of two other similar ones
debbie
@Ruviana:
I’m just surprised the reporter offered no thoughts on that, though.
schrodingers_cat
Apparently Neo-Nazis had a rally in Charlottesville again, yesterday complete with torches and all.
debbie
@schrodingers_cat:
Flash mob for fascists. Spencer plans to make it a regular thing so they aren’t forgotten.
Corner Stone
@Amir Khalid: I’m not sure about his lineage but that is what he claims, IIRC. He’s a real first grade asshole but actually quite talented. If you like his kind of thing.
Yutsano
@schrodingers_cat: My friend Brendan lives there. He said it was mostly a symbolic nothingburger with bonus overtime for the cops. Hell even the national news is barely noticing.
Kathleen
First, I’m sick of how ubiquitous Peyton Manning is on TV commercials.
Second (Sorry rikyrah and any other BJ Cubs fans) I’m rooting for the Nats to go all the way. I adore Dusty Baker and think he got raw deal in Cincy by fans and management and I really want to see him manage Series winner.
That is all.
Steeplejack
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Jesus, how about a straight link to the Washington Post article without the Facebook reach-around? “After the Check Is Gone.”
opiejeanne
@Corner Stone: I know, but people are really in need of education on this.
The argument started because of the birth control issue, of course. Even a couple of people on the Left are arguing with me now, hence my frustration: “Some companies pay half.”
rikyrah
Judd LegumVerified account @JuddLegum
1. Desperate San Juan Mayor takes to Twitter after Trump administration ignores requests for help
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Sorry, I’m feeling very crabby today. Trump news is all bad, yet I can’t look away, and even Joy Reid impersonating Gilbert Gottfried couldn’t improve my mood.
Now I’ve got to hop in the shower and then drive out to Dulles to pick up my friend from Alaska.
opiejeanne
@Kathleen: Used to adore Dusty Baker but he is dead to me after that stunt he pulled in the 6th game of the World Series in 2002.
I’m rooting for the Cubs because I love their manager, Joe Maddon.
rikyrah
The Trump-Russia dossier: why its findings grow more significant by the day
As US officials investigate potential collusion between Trump and Moscow, the series of reports by the former UK intelligence official Christopher Steele are casting an ever darker shadow over the president
Saturday 7 October 2017 09.41 EDT
Nine months after its first appearance, the set of intelligence reports known as the Steele dossier, one of the most explosive documents in modern political history, is still hanging over Washington, casting a shadow over the Trump administration that has only grown darker as time has gone by.
It was reported this week that the document’s author, former British intelligence official, Christopher Steele, has been interviewed by investigators working for the special counsel on Russian interference in the 2016 election.
The Senate and House intelligence committees are, meanwhile, asking to see Steele to make up their own mind about his findings. The ranking Democrat on the House committee, Adam Schiff, said that the dossier was “a very important and useful guide to help us figure out what we need to look into”.
The fact that Steele’s reports are being taken seriously after lengthy scrutiny by federal and congressional investigators has far-reaching implications.
Doug R
@Kathleen: My wife, being from Montreal, is a diehard Expos fan. When they moved to DC, they became dead to her.
Our beloved Canucks won last night and my beloved Ospreys are facing the Los Angeles male ? this afternoon.
Good to see the ? back in Los Angeles, but my heart is really now with the Ospreys.
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: I’m watching a cooking show.
Yesterday I got a series of over-excited texts from my son and his buddy, worried about whether they should decamp to our cabin for a while. They were reacting to yesterday’s BS tweets threatening NK. I calmed them down, told them they could use the cabin (of course, duh) but that from Garden Grove they’re better off heading south if Long Beach or LA is the target. I also told them I don’t believe Kim can deliver any farther out that Guam, which is cold comfort and I’m not sure I’m right. I’m close enough to Seattle that we’re dead if it’s a target, and both daughters live and work in the city.
rikyrah
But the Mayor of San Juan is ‘ posturing’
Uh huh
Uh huh
Mariana_AtencioVerified account @marianaatencio
Outside San Juan, Puerto Ricans plea For water. Volunteer nurses reach some along w/ hope. Our story @NBCNightlyNews
https://twitter.com/marianaatencio/status/916841543146676224
Elmo
Rooting for whoever is playing my formerly beloved Chargers. Nothing would give me greater satisfaction than an 0-16 season with horrific attendance in their first dismal year in hated Los Angeles.
Elmo
@Doug R: Tell your wife that this former San Diego Charger fan feels her pain.
Corner Stone
@Elmo: My God. What amount of hate could be in your heart that you would choose to root for the NY Giants?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
trump notices Pence getting attention for what looks (to the mouth-breathers and knuckle-draggers) like a moment decisive-tude. Gets jealous and grabs back spotlight
Doug R
@opiejeanne: One of the reasons we moved to the Okanagan was to get out of the Pacific Northwest subduction zone, but it’s also good to move away from a city which is 125 miles closer to North Korea than Seattle.
Doug R
@Elmo: Yeah, what was that, it’s either 2 or zero teams in LA?
At least the Chargers started in LA. Although was there anything wrong with the Chargers playing in say Legoland?
Mike J
Red Sox making it easy to watch the Seahawks.
rikyrah
OK,
Here’s a laugh for you.
BWA HA HA HA AH HA
https://twitter.com/no_cut_card/status/917052653221359622
rikyrah
DemWrite
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Virginia is leading the way, switching to paper ballots this Nov. Democracy in the cyber age needs a paper trail.
rikyrah
I bought it on Amazon. Not even $1.50.
SpotifyVerified account @Spotify
For ?? from @Lin_Manuel + friends. Listen to #AlmostLikePraying with all proceeds going to the Hispanic Federation
https://twitter.com/Spotify/status/916386672715227136
mouse tolliver
@schrodingers_cat: One local station called the Nazis “white activists.” Only changed the wording after they got hit with backlash. This reluctance to call them what they are is a huge part of the problem.
mouse tolliver
@smintheus: They wasted tax dollars on security and travel to stage a publicity stunt at a game he had no intention of watching.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I asked the sun to continue rising each morning even though I am being treated so disrespectfully, so very disrespectfully by the late night hosts.
JMG
It’s got to be a very, very, very dull NFL Sunday if the only person to make news at a game is Mike freakin’ Pence.
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I follow Mrs. Betty Bowers (America’s Best Christian) on FB. Similarly:
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
My favorite reply to that tweet:
Jim, Foolish Literalist
ETA:
Chet
Yeah if I had to watch the Colts and 49ers I would find an excuse to leave too.
Half marathon in the books. A minute slowe than my best, which I am satisfied with since it was so humid and rainy.
Now watching and rooting for whoever is playing the Jets and Giants.
HeleninEire
OMG the entire look of the site has changed. Is that true or am I drunk?
Hint: both can be true.
I HATE change. Well I moved an entire life 3100 miles so maybe I hate change that I don’t initiate. Yeah; I’m a control freak.
Elmo
@Corner Stone: It’s even worse than you think. I used to go out of my way to root AGAINST the Giants because of how Eli Manning disrespected my Chargers in the 2004 draft. My love for my Chargers was such that I also rooted against his brother Peyton, who had supported him.
And now? 0 and 16, baby!
Amir Khalid
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The purpose of a counter-protest is to get attention. You want the media to show the Vice President protesting the kneeling protesters. Telling the media to stay in the van was grade-A+ stupidity from the White House as usual, or some convoluted sort of petty humiliation of Pence, or …
… I was trying to think of some complicated political manoeuvre by Trump, but my imagination has failed me.
Cheryl Rofer
Ah, even sportsball turns to politics these days.
Amir Khalid
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
An administration that blew the Secret Service’s annual budget in six months is probably not even aware it’s done this.
Cheryl Rofer
Cheryl Rofer
And from Trump:
MomSense
@opiejeanne:
And those corporations and employees are not taxed on those health benefits. When people comment to me about not wanting their tax dollars to subsidize my premiums I love to ask them if they want to continue to get the tax breaks on theirs. Come after our subsidies and I will devote my life to taking theirs away. Fuck this meanness.
Also too fuck Mike Pence.
Mike in NC
Just imagine what an interview between Mike Pence and Hugh Hewett would be like. Two extremely boring, white-haired, religious fanatic, ultraconservative white guys. It would have the potential of putting a stadium filled with people asleep.
A couple of recent items in the Washington Post prompted me to want to read some of the excellent work of Russian-born journalist Masha Gessen. First is “The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin” and second will be “The Future Is History: How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia” which just came out.
Hal
All the way from Nevada to Indiana. Even if this wasn’t a stunt what justification could be have for the expense of traveling all that way and back. Watch the game in TV.
Duane
@smintheus: Pence just removed any doubt that he’s every bit the thoughtless baatard Trump is. You’re the Vice-president of the United States. For God’s sake, try to show some class.
Corner Stone
Stillers have one of the most explosive offensive cores in the league and Benny throws 5 INTs against JAX. I’m telling you, his arm is toast.
Davebo
@Cheryl Rofer: He has to take credit for EVERYTHING!
Damned at Random
I’m astonished that people leave an NFL game before it’s over. Given the ticket price, I would stay is the score is 49-0 at halftime in a hailstorm. I’m there until the game is over and I might stay to watch the grounds crew
J R in WV
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Actually, political scientists and economists have said for decades that West Virginia is a poor, unstable, exploited state trying to claw its way out of the third world. Most of the state is owned outright by out-of-state corporations, who exert nearly total control over the political arms of state government.
The governor, a Republican who was a Democrat for 9 months to gain election, is a coal man, the son of a coal man, who obviously doesn’t give a shit about poor and deliberately downtrodden WV citizens. And the legislature is controlled by Republlican businessmen.
So you’re wrong, WV is a third world country, right in the middle of the US of A. I know, I’ve lived here my whole long life, except for serving in the Navy and a year at college before I was drafted.
burnspbesq
Scotland. SMH.
Big one tomorrow. Wales-Republic of Ireland. Winner is almost surely in the playoffs. Loser is done.
Last match featured one of the worst tackles you will ever see. Broken tibia AND fibula for Irish captain Seamus Coleman. He is still at least a month away from returning to action.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
@Steeplejack:
Sorry, I didn’t know I had linked to Facebook. I clicked on the “copy link address” on the page, and I thought it would just copy the Post address.
Corner Stone
OBJ breaking his ankle probably is not going to help NYG future returns.
efgoldman
@p.a.:
And the CBS early game was the
just as compelling
Bengals-BeefalosWest of the Cascades
@Cheryl Rofer: See Mike Stand. See Mike Walk Out. See Mike Roll Over On His Back And Pee On His Belly When His Master Speaks.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@West of the Cascades: Narrator: He and Mother had been practicing that routine for years, never dreaming it would get them a flabby seventy-year-old’s heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
opiejeanne
@MomSense: I had similar stupid arguments about pensions with people in SoCal yapping about how retirement agreements were going to bankrupt all the cities because AAIIIEEEE!
I knew quite a bit about the one they hated on the most, CalPERS and how it was being funded. They did not know that because of investments municipalities had not been required to pay into the retirement program for years. That changed, thanks to W crashing the economy and there were problems with outside investment managers/advisers getting paid ridiculous salaries, but that organization is the bomb and Republicans in CA have wanted to destroy it for years.
Mnemosyne
Steelers-related from Very Smart Brothas:
The Pittsburgh Steelers Might Be Better Off Right Now If They Had Colin Kaepernick Instead of Ben Roethlisberger
Steeplejack
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
See above.
AnotherBruce
@Kathleen: Dusty will fuck something up in an epic manner.It’s pretty much guaranteed. BTW I am a life long Cubs fan, but I don’t hate the Nationals.