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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Foreign Affairs Open Thread: Erdogan in DC, Again

Foreign Affairs Open Thread: Erdogan in DC, Again

by Anne Laurie|  November 13, 201911:41 am| 38 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Republican Venality, All Too Normal

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Question that could be put to Erdogan tomorrow at the joint presser: What did potus say to you on Oct 6 when you informed him you were invading northern Syria?

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 13, 2019

Trump offers trade deal, sanctions workaround to Erdogan for better U.S.-Turkey relations @KarenDeYoung1 @Missy_Ryan @KFahim https://t.co/cOtwGEkzbl

— Ellen Nakashima (@nakashimae) November 13, 2019

Everything is fine. https://t.co/nLUvQgNBdv pic.twitter.com/ysBnn8sfOA

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) November 12, 2019

This guy is visiting our white house tomorrow: Erdogan Warns That Turkey Will Keep Deporting ISIS Detainees https://t.co/SppzrG019x

— Janet Johnson (@JJohnsonLaw) November 12, 2019

“Trump is replacing formal relations among nations in several cases with family-to-family relationship, or crony-to-crony relationships.” https://t.co/cWicJ7CNBl

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) November 13, 2019


Here’s the deal: The Trump team is unlikely to call even a clear war crime a war crime if it hurts ties w/ Turkey. It won’t label the mass murder of Rohingya a crime against humanity or genocide b/c it wants to keep ties w/ Burma, a place w/ less strategic importance than Turkey. https://t.co/4iaORKBMr6

— Nahal Toosi (@nahaltoosi) November 13, 2019

Remember the last time Erdogan visited Washington? This is worth looking at again. https://t.co/MHrgf1cy6m

— Damon Darlin?? (@darlin) November 12, 2019

I feel like the easiest argument one could make that this is a bad idea is that his goons also literally beat up peaceful protestors (including American citizens) last time he visited Washington. https://t.co/PmbNKW1bEA

— Chris Bing (@Bing_Chris) November 12, 2019

And the president of the United States will not say or do a thing about it, because he quite literally doesn’t care. https://t.co/Sh2JI2tiKB

— Tamara Cofman Wittes (@tcwittes) November 12, 2019

As Trump and Erdogan meet, Russia’s Putin looms in the background https://t.co/2PSzTcbsoZ

— Bloomberg (@business) November 13, 2019

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    November 13, 2019 at 7:11 pm

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    Uncle Cosmo

    November 13, 2019 at 7:27 pm

    That building with the big Turkish flag behind Erdogan is the Anit Kabir in Ankara – Ataturk’s tomb. That motherfucker has a lot of nerve being there. I’m honestly kind of shocked that Mustafa Kemal Pasha doesn’t rise right up from his coffin & strangle that Islamofascist bastard with his own tie.

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    Uncle Cosmo

    November 13, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    FTR the building with the square columns behind Erdogan in the one tweet is the Anit Kabir – Ataturk’s tomb overlooking Ankara. That motherfucking Islamofascist has a fuck of a lot of nerve being anywhere near that monument to founder of the secular Turkish republic. Frankly I’m shocked that the spirit of Mustafa Kemal doesn’t rise up out of his coffin & strangle him with his own tie.

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    Ruff the Dog

    November 13, 2019 at 7:39 pm

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    The Lodger

    November 14, 2019 at 12:52 am

    The House Intelligence Committee just spent a day establishing just what some heads of state have to do to get invited to the White House.  And yet, there Erdogan was.

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    November 14, 2019 at 8:17 am

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