Yes, Deggans favors ‘detachment’ because he works for NPR, but he’s correct about how long sessions of watching the same horrifying news videos on a endless loop can be personally corrosive. For your own good, and the good you’ll be able to do in the future, take care of yourself, too. Unplug when your heart / mind starts racing, stretch, get away from your screen (go outside if you can), interact with the people & pets in your household:
Media critic Eric @Deggans recommends cutting back on cable news viewing and limiting shared videos amid coverage of the death of George Floyd and the protests surrounding it: "I think you pay a price for taking too much of it in." pic.twitter.com/F2QBgkNP3f
— AP Entertainment (@APEntertainment) June 1, 2020
Look for the helpers…
Former boxing champion Floyd Mayweather has offered to pay for George Floyd’s funeral and memorial services, and the family has accepted the offer.https://t.co/ZoYUCT751j
— AP Sports (@AP_Sports) June 2, 2020
.@chefjoseandres protesting and giving food to people outside of the White House. “I’m always protesting!” he said pic.twitter.com/C5CJafYtym
— Elizabeth Landers (@ElizLanders) June 2, 2020
We need to be able to keep working for change in the run-up to the election. We need to be here to celebrate on November 4th.
NEWS: ActBlue has shattered the 2020 record in money donated in a day that it set only *yesterday.*
The site has processed more than $20 million today and appears on pace to break its all-time record later tonight.https://t.co/NJiLyvCSlPhttps://t.co/CxPpLfB6sM
— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) June 2, 2020
Martin
Feels more like a hockey game, TBH.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Last night’s photo-op stunt managed to piss off the Episcopal church community in DC pretty deeply.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/trump-st-johns-photo-op-church-leader-says-now-force-to-be-reckoned-with.html
From the rector (pastor) of St. John’s, who was out there handing out water and granola bars to the protestors:
The Episcopal bishop of DC also issued some very angry statements today. He manages to find more people to piss off daily. He’s a uniter!
Omnes Omnibus
On that note, I have made a decision. I am choosing to embrace life. I am choosing hope over despair. I am choosing idealism over cynicism. I am choosing to look for the evidence of people doing good over looking at the hatred. I am not going to let Trump and his people cause me to live like they do in misery and anger. I am going to leave every place a little cleaner than it was when I got there. I am going to help where I can.
SiubhanDuinne
That’s a nice thing for Mayweather to do.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: I am going to watch you.
lollipopguild
Gee, you would think that trump’s actions to “dominate” people would have made people “behave”.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Stock up on popcorn. This shit is going to be lit.
Benw
@Omnes Omnibus: preach
Mary G
Ben Wittes, who vouched for Brett Kavanaugh’s sterling character before the confirmation hearings, and then took it back, and having learned nothing from that, vouched for Barr and again had to eat his words, tweeted today that he has made his first ever contribution to a political campaign, $2,800 to Biden. Sounds like he’s not alone. I am so enjoying the thought of Susan Collins kissing her seat goodbye, and hoping for many more flipped Senate seats.
?BillinGlendaleCA
Oh God, no.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
We had a primary in PA today. While there wasn’t a lot riding on this primary, I felt it was important to do a dry run, especially of the mail-in process, for November. PA is one of the states that allows anybody to get a mail-in ballot without providing a reason. There were a fair number of glitches in the system: we didn’t get our ballot until 5 pm yesterday, too late to mail, and the information on how and where to drop off a ballot in person was hard to find and incomplete.
We only noticed at the very last minute some fine print in the ballot materials stating that there would be drop-off boxes at our local polling place. The state and county websites make no mention of that.
The elections officials had to deal with requests for 1.8 million absentee ballots, so it’s understandable that they were kind of overwhelmed. But still their instructions need work.
Anyway it worked. And now we’ll see how long it takes the state to process all of those mail-in ballots, likely to be many days I would guess.
Elizabelle
@Omnes Omnibus: I feel like that, too.
Your friend, Elizabelle Pollyanna
(and fuck you, OO.)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: So you’re giving up practicing law?
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: “He” being T***p of course, not the bishop (who is a woman).
rikyrah
I ordered a box of fresh vegetables from a food service
They used to service restaurants before COVID-19, but now deliver nice boxes of fruits and vegetables.
I am wondering, anyone in the Minneapolis/ St. Paul area, if you know of a similar company.
I would like to order something for my sister.
Would appreciate names and a link.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: I got 4 big bags of Skinny Pop* in the kitchen.
*Full Disclosure: Skinny Pop does not make you skinny.
Omnes Omnibus
@Elizabelle: Go blow a goat.
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I can keep my professional and personal lived separate.
Baud
Even the Wall Street Journal
Mary G
This is shameful:
TS (the original)
So the military are rolling down the streets of DC – trump gets his wish for a military parade (via Rachel)
West of the Rockies
We need attorneys with integrity and progressive passion. Right on, OO. I feel similarly.
However, our local protest was called off tonight due to credible threats of white supremacists arriving to cause physical, bodily violence.
Patricia Kayden
VeniceRiley
Not feeling superior in any way over my new country except to say California beachgoers, by and large, pick up their own trash.
Jeffro
People are connecting the dots about all the non-uniformed, armed personnel here and there in DC who say they’re “with DOJ”…
…looks like Erik Prince has been up to his usual dirty tricks and covert armies thingy.
Hey Congress! Time to grab a mic and pass the fastest set of impeachment hearings & vote EVER. Like, yesterday.
Baud
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2392XL
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
/fixed
lamh36
I love the story of how Rep Jim Clyburn met his dear wife.
It would TOTALLY make a great movie!
Here is the WashPo story from earlier this year on Clyburn and his lovely wife of 58 years who passed.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
the crowds in DC look bigger than the one at trump’s inauguration
also
Park police would be under the Interior Dept, no? so he’s blaming whichever ex-coal executive or lobbyist holds that job (a little embarrassed I can’t even begin to think of a name) and Big Willie Barr. Probably at least mostly true.
HumboldtBlue
@lamh36:
I was in the process of linking that, pretty sure I got it from your Twitter.
That’s beautiful.
This a lesson to learn.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m with ya, I’m on the downside of the mountain and I’m going to try to enjoy what I have left.
rikyrah
I love Maru?
https://youtu.be/sjJp0FWfq5U
Duane
@West of the Rockies: Aren’t the police supposed to protect the public from threats of violence? Hell who am I kidding. The police are the white supremacists aren’t they?
Gin & Tonic
@lamh36: My in-laws got married in a POW camp. Stayed married for 70 years.
Gin & Tonic
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I call bullshit.
lamh36
@HumboldtBlue: lol…yeah probably was me
raven
Help me, Rachel is explaining what a fucking bayonet is.
lamh36
Rep Jim Clyburn with some wisdom for the times!
The members of the CBC have been right about Chump all along. RIP Elijah Cummings
Sebastian
Alright folks, I really hope this is going to resolve itself peacefully but I keep wondering … how?
Trump is doubling down. He will at some point order troops and goons to shoot at protesters. At the same time we have more and more people joining the protest and people aren’t going to back down. Not against this piece of shit.
You can all feel that the hour has arrived, can you not?
This all has a fucking final days Ceausescu vibe to it.
Mary G
rikyrah
Patricia Kayden
rikyrah
@lamh36:
I love that story??
raven
@Patricia Kayden: That’s what the boogaloo boiz who showed up in athens said they were doing.
lamh36
Must read:
Chump’s photo-op backfired BIG TIME w/more religious folks than I expected (when even Pat Robertson says…’not cool”…wow)
Another Scott
@raven:
Fixed Bayonets!, perhaps?
(For some reason, I have a memory of someone in some old movie screaming that line, but I don’t know if it was actually in that movie.)
Cheers,
Scott.
TS (the original)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: They stayed with him – they didn’t leave – they didn’t resign. The excuse “I didn’t know” has no meaning.
lamh36
Bill Arnold
@Patricia Kayden:
Well, if he thinks that the First Amendment is not as important a part of the Constitution as the Senate is, well… Not sure he truly viscerally understands how much he is loathed and by how very many (and by whom).
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mary G: Susan sure knows how to pick ’em.
raven
@Another Scott: Not “fixed” “fix”. That means put it on the rifle. I have a WW2 Japanese rifle with a 14inch bayonet. She was explaining what a bayonet was, pretty fucking annoying.
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Ivanka hid the Bible in the bag and sprung it on them.
HumboldtBlue
The White House where we tear gas people for photo ops.
I give the fuck up. I just can’t … this is patently fucking absurd and if it doesn’t speak to just how foul just how ignorant just how un-American and inhuman the Trump administration is nothing ever will.
Pat Robertson ladies and gents.
Aleta
@Another Scott: I remember “Fix bayonets!” in Gettysburg. Battle scene in my memory. Could be wrong.
rikyrah
Black cowboys in Houston protesting ??
https://twitter.com/Mike_Hixenbaugh/status/1267901154601701376
Tony Jay
Glancing over the WaPo site there’s not really any good news for the tottering Trump regime. Most things are covered. The protests are overwhelmingly peaceful and empowering. The regime’s panicked response is both brutal and cowardly. They’re calling out newspapers that don’t cover the biggest story of the day, while also highlighting the police forces who are doing the right thing. Basically it’s a long list of “You fucked up and you’re gonna get beat” articles to sizzle the toadflesh of the Pennsylvania Avenue Groundhog.
Boy, the Committee to Re-Elect the President is off to a fine start. What’s next? Ban all the superheroes and put a Sentinel on every street corner? There must be votes in that, right?
As an aside, I guess this is what it must feel like to be a ‘conservative’. The Media are saying roughly what you want it to say, just without sufficient vigour or clarity. It’s unusual and unsettling and won’t last, but just like hearing the sound of Poppa chopping the head off that Granny-eating wolf, it’s somehow comforting to know that, for now, the bad guys failed.
NotMax
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
“I’m not a mind reader,” Esper said.
//
geg6
@TS (the original):
This. They are traitors and should be treated as such. I can’t think of bigger enemies of the country than anyone who allows that piece of shit squatting in the Oval Office to do the shit he has done. They deserve death by firing squad. And, based on my reading, I’m pretty sure George Washington would agree.
Duane
@TS (the original): Maybe they’re trying to build a defense for their crimes against humanity trials.
lamh36
@Kay:More proof of the backlash they must be getting outside of the Fox News bubble. I’m guessing the Bible prop was a step too far!
Feathers
@lamh36: That is one fucked up clip. And Pat Robertson is looking old. I wonder if the evangelicals are going to turn on him. They really are all in on Trump.
Jeffro
It does. trumpov knows he is way, way underwater if there is going to be a legitimate election this fall. The people are against him. The only thing propping him up is the complicity of the GOP (especially Senate Republicans) and whatever violent elements in the military and police that he has already connected with, plus Erik Prince’s Blackwater goons.
He also knows that losing the election, or failure in any other way, will mean the greatest humiliation in American history and possibly even justice for his crimes.
So…all I got is that Dems should keep up with the peaceful protests, bang on the Senate GOP, bang on the national snooze media for NOT banging on the Senate GOP, and start to think about how to hit trumpov’s big-dollar supporters in the wallet.
After all, like the Ill Douche, we can’t afford to lose either.
SFBayAreaGal
@lamh36: I love the story. Brought tears to my eyes.
NotMax
Will he now
divertsnatch Pentagon monies to build Big Beautiful Wall 2.0 around White House?Steeplejack
@VeniceRiley:
What is your new country?
Jeffro
@Kay: She’s been quoting bible verses on Twitter, and a little more frequently these days.
It just makes me want to scream, laugh, cry, and laugh again – how did these trumpovs suddenly become So. Devout. ? It’s really amazing, isn’t it? They are just all in on that Christianity thing, in an increasing way.
Totally legit, absolutely. No questions to be asked here, national snooze media.
HumboldtBlue
@Tony Jay:
That’s a winner.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
My Republican mom was Biden curious due to Trump’s disasterous coronavirus response. Now that she is seeing images on TV of black people looting, she is back on the Trump train. It doesn’t matter that they don’t represent the peaceful protestors or that there are white provocateurs destroying property. She’s a bit racist, afraid, and watching Fox again.
Another Scott
https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1267976287039238145 – thread:
The contrast is stark, isn’t it…
Cheers,
Scott.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Tony Jay:
How about moving the convention with less than 3 months before it’s due to start?
Jeffro
And I guess as of about 40 minutes ago, trumpov just pulled the RNC from North Carolina to…parts unknown? The highest bidder? Barf-a-Lago? The mind boggles.
Public safety is not what we’re about! MY RALLIES MUST GET RE-STARTED, SOMEWHERE, NOW!
Hey NC, we’re going to help you do the VA thing, starting this election. You’re already mostly blue in spirit, it’ll be easy ;)
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Commendable.
lamh36
Unless this is photoshop, according to this CNN graphic, there were protest in all 50 states today!
Wow…
https://twitter.com/Vanessa_KDeLuca/status/1267974907171876871?s=20
?BillinGlendaleCA
@geg6:
Hate to break it ya, but he passed. //
TaMara (HFG)
Oh good, somewhere to share this powerful tweet. As the daughter of a veteran and sister and aunt of National Guard members, this meant a lot.
NotMax
@Jeffro
Yup.
Public space force is a potent instrument.
Sebastian
@Jeffro:
We will have a decisive moment way before the election. Do you really see this continue for 5 months like this? Something’s gotta give.
Until earlier today I didn’t but after Lafayette and what else there is coming, I can see him being strung up by a lamppost.
Actually, this might be the most likely outcome if this shit continues. If I were McConnell I wouldn’t stay in DC.
Baud
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Have heart. There’s still plenty of time for Trump to fuck up in whole new ways.
donnah
The Republican Senator of my state of Ohio, Rob Portman, skittered past reporters in Washington today and as he was asked what he thought about Trump’s stunt las night, he ducked his head and said, “I’m late for lunch”.
So he’s a coward. I sent him an email today, calling him a coward and shaming him for not taking any action or speaking out against a liar of a president. Portman professes his Christianity, but certainly doesn’t show it. I told him that he is failing us, failing Ohio, failing this country.
Let’s remember that we do have a voice. Write or call your Senators and Representatives and either give them praise or cuss them out. Now we need to be heard, and stand up for those who are standing up for us.
Patricia Kayden
Quit and speak out then.
Mary G
NotMax
@Jeffro
Crimea? Pyongyang?
Duane
@Jeffro: People who suddenly find God: death-row inmates, soldiers in foxholes, and members of this administration.
Sebastian
@TaMara (HFG):
This is SO important. Once one unit does it becomes a REAL option for others, not a hypothetical. Once more than one unit do it it evolves into a question of ethics, values, and oath. No longer can we/should we do it but “which side are we on”.
Cannot CANNOT overstate the significance of this.
Kay
@lamh36:
They know it’s bad.
batguano
Any advice for heading to DC this weekend to join the protest? I think I’d like to park 5 to 10 miles away and hike in. I’ll make sure to review Adam’s guidelines.
different-church-lady
@Sebastian: If Trump doesn’t wind up as a corpse in the back of a truck he should put it in the win column.
Baud
@batguano:
Make sure to hydrate.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: Which ever city will be hosting the convention will have less than 3 months to plan. I saw Nashville was vying for it.
Leto
@NotMax: Asteroid belt. Still too close, imo.
Another Scott
@Baud: But not too much. Public toilets may be closed or restricted.
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: …and stay frosty.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Leto: I’m OK with the surface of the Sun.
ETA: It’s warm, but it’s a dry heat.
HumboldtBlue
@lamh36:
They’re outside the Governor’s mansion in Iowa
different-church-lady
@lamh36: YOU LOST PAT GODDAMENED ROBERTSON! HOW MUCH OF A FUCK-UP DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO BE A REPUBLICAN THAT LOSES PAT GODDAMEND ROBINSON?!??
NotMax
@Duane
“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.”
— Thomas Jefferson
Kay
@Jeffro:
I read her comments and speeches on education because they always stick poor school kids with her, no one gives a shit what they have to sit thru, and she’s a vapid bore. She speaks in this soul-deadening marketing language that makes me want to cry with boredom. She’s as empty as her father.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: Jehosophat, I missed this on my first read through (The NBC website is a jumpy mess)
He said that. Out loud. On the record. To a reporter. From one of the biggest media organizations in the world.
Miss Bianca
@lamh36: Awww….that is so sweet. You’re right, it would make a dynamite movie, but it would need the right director.
lamh36
Anyone else notice how the media is no longer interested in showing LIVE footage of the majority peacful protest w/o looting or the violence from LEOs.
NotMax
@Leto
“Wait a minute. These tickets are all stamped ‘one way.'”
:)
Leto
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Fairly certain the surface of the sun is still cooler than the Mid East.
Another Scott
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: To be fair, if the President says “come with me” and you’re a Secretary, then you go with him – no matter what the stated (or unstated) reason is.
Or you resign…
Cheers,
Scott.
Gin & Tonic
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Please refer to my comment #34 above.
lamh36
Rats abandoning ship?
dmsilev
@Jeffro:
Plenty of cruise ships available to rent right now.
Jeffro
It’s like we were separated at birth. =(
I told my TCNJ dad and bro a couple months ago that I was done talking politics with them until after the election, after we Dems settled on Biden and they still managed to find ever-more-ridiculous reasons to say “um I’m not voting for trumpov, I’m voting for the GOP”.
But just in the past couple of week or two, the Floyd protests have brought out the scared old white lady willing in my mom, which is just sad. She has always been religious and a cowed authoritarian (but I repeat myself) but she at least seemed to have a growing understanding these past few years that trumpov was a fraud.
She also quit getting the Post a year or two ago btw, and now relies solely on Fox News (the tv version) and FB for her news. Ugh.
So…what can we do but out-work them. Organize, mobilize, register our voters and turn ’em out. We have to. There will be no ‘America’ after this November if we don’t.
WaterGirl
@Mary G:
You can tell they’re the good guys because of the…You know they know what they are doing is wrong when they hide who they are – whether they are military or national guard or ICE or whatever.
Despicable pieces of shit, every one of them.
Leto
@lamh36: MSNBC is still showing peaceful protests. End of Maddow had a cutover to a reporter out in NYC, and O’Donnell had someone live in NYC (I think) and just cut over to reporter in Seattle. Seattle people are peaceful, though the Seattle police are now in riot gear apparently.
different-church-lady
@Tony Jay: It’s still not to late for the GOP to nominate Bernie.
H.E.Wolf
He’s 90. And I bet he saw “Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin” written on his dining-room wall this weekend.
janesays
@SiubhanDuinne: It is kind thing for him to do, and he rightly deserves praise for it, but… he’s still not a very good person.
Unless you consider beating the shit out of his child’s mother and several other women the sort of thing a good person does.
Or that time when he ran up a $25,000 bar tab after making $32 million on a fight and then leaving a waitress no tip later that night.
Duane
@batguano: Full face mask respirator. At the least a good pair of goggles and a half- mask.
lamh36
@lamh36:
Someone just told me this guy was an Obama appointee, so not at “rat”? Meh…I still say rat…cause what exactly took so long? The bible prop was a bridge too far?
Anne Laurie
“Mister, you are lunch.”
Leto
@Leto: tack on from my last post, masked White guy with a bullhorn shouting down the black organizer who is speaking to the reporter, they cut away, and now Lawrence is lighting up white bro: saying that he’s hiding who he is so he can cause trouble, saying that 99% of the protests have been peaceful, handed over to Joy Reid who’s saying that this is what BLM has been up against. Infiltrators, agitators, anarchists and white supremists.
mrmoshpotato
@?BillinGlendaleCA: You Hollywood types – only interacting with the stars!
(I’ll see myself out.)
different-church-lady
Told ya:
Barbara
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The need for good relations with the next administration looms large in the fortunes of his post-election employment.
joel hanes
@Bill Arnold:
Not sure [McConnell] truly viscerally understands how much he is loathed
Oh, he knows.
And he welcomes our hatred.
Ol’ Mitch hated liberals, all of them, long before most liberals had ever heard of him.
Leto
@NotMax: we could only be so lucky!
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Baud:
@Jeffro:
Thank you both. Its so depressing. I needed the reminder.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: To Mike Esper:
Well, you know, when you’re dealing with Donald Trump you should have a pretty good idea that you’re a prop, and it would behoove you to FUCKING ASK before you follow along like a puppy following the big dog.
P.S. You’re in Donald Trump’s fucking cabinet.
Barbara
@Anne Laurie: That is a definite win!
Leto
@Barbara: I’m going with Kay’s suggestion in the morning thread, that we need them ALL named/shamed so that when they try to weasel their way into another administration spot, we know who they are and refuse to give them another fucking penny. Better get it while you can, fuckers.
lamh36
And now they are placing blame ALL AROUND!
This has become a clusterfuq for them…GOOD!
Leto
@WaterGirl: at least come up with a better/more believable lie. “We were going to the bathroom…” Do you seriously think I fell off the turnip truck, yesterday? I guess the Faux viewers are that fucking dumb, but the rest of us? GTFOofhere!
Miss Bianca
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Cities are *vying* for it?
smdh
?BillinGlendaleCA
@mrmoshpotato: You know, I love shooting the stars.
mrmoshpotato
@Patricia Kayden: Oh that Turtle-faced Fascist Motherfucker who doesn’t believe in the United States Constitution.
(Each day it’s harder to keep from reverting back to wanting to throw these shitstains into a volcano.)
NotMax
@Leto
From what I’ve seen* on MSNBC over the past few days they have been careful about showing damage, looting and such (can’t ignore it has taken place; broken glass and trashed cars make for ‘good’ video) but not dwelling it, going out of the way to put it in context and repeatedly qualify that it is not representative of the aims nor of the participation of the protestors.
*Sampled in small increments, not glued to the set.
HumboldtBlue
Come on you silly libtards, Trump went to church because FREEDOM!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I saw that! The NC governor and top health official reached out to the WH/RNC and told them to come up with a plan to safely conduct the 50,000-attendee GOP Convention. Guess what happened? Crickets. Didn’t take them up on the offer
Jeffro
Jamelle Bouie does a good job pointing out why 2020 is not like 1968, but I think he misses on this point:
Ah, but trumpov is claiming to represent a return to the stability of white supremacy, a steady whip hand in an increasingly diverse country. He is putting his discord and disruption into the service of returning this country to white order and control. The battle lines are much clearer now, the Republican base much harder due to decades of Reagan-baby Randism and Fox News.
That’s the difference.
I still think the biggest part of the solution here is to tax the rich heavily enough that they aren’t able to finance this kind of crap, at least not on this scale. On top of that, Dems need to get strategic about their boycotts of TCNJ-donating enterprises. That’s the only thing they understand.
Leto
@NotMax: I pretty much just watch Maddow and some of O’Donnell. I’m usually busy during the day, plus most of the regular programming pisses me off, but I’m glad they’re trying to give a complete picture.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Hoping against hope that he hasn’t trashed all his options for the future. Maybe if I do this now, it won’t be too late.
Good luck with that.
Duane
@WaterGirl: In a few days Secretary of Defense Esper will have had no idea what the military was doing.
Leto
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Hahahahahahahahahaha… and there’s my ab workout for today!
Ladyraxterinok
@Feathers:
The old-line Evangelical leaders are really getting old—Kenneth Copelsnd is late 70s or early 80s, JimBakker is 80 with stroke. John Hagee must be at least mid 70s, likewise Jesse DuPlantis.
Several of up-and-coming young ones have gotten caught in abuse scandals. Several in early 30s recently committed suicide
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@HumboldtBlue:
“The Pope should seek Trump’s forgiveness.”
Money quote from that ad
lamh36
Congratulations Ferguson!!
joel hanes
@Ladyraxterinok:
It is a terrible shame that Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham left sons.
Miss Bianca
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
“IT WASN’T MY FAULT!!”
Jeffro
@lamh36: trying to picture what would happen if Hillary’s AG had ordered tear gas and flash bangs so that she could wave a bible around for a photo op, all prompted by Chelsea and Chelsea’s husband egging her on.
Seriously. The mind boggles.
lamh36
Steve King is in danger of losing his primary tonight in Iowa, so another crazy Iowa Repub I’m sure…but still…I don’t have enough popcorn to watch his azz gon down…
Mallard Filmore
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
This reminds me of a scene in the movie “Start The Revolution Without Me” where the befuddled king whines at a formal occasion “I thought this was a costume party.”
WaterGirl
@Duane:
They are all coffee boys now. Or soon will be.
hueyplong
GOP convention should be in NASCAR raceway at Talladega. With extra Trump-KKKeebler elf tension.
Miss Bianca
@lamh36: Wow!!
HumboldtBlue
You can listen to some really smart black people discussing the protests here
joel hanes
The times, they may be a-changin’ :
With 1% counted, reprehensible Rep. Steve King (R, white supremacy) is losing his Iowa Republican primary to less odious (but still arch-conservative) Republican, Randy Feenstra.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/elections/results/local/2020-06-02/
WaterGirl
@Leto:
North Carolina: Come up with a plan.
Trumper convention planner: What’s a plan?
Trumper convention planner 2: Hell if I know. shrugs
THE END
Mary G
It cracks me up: Maggie’s story in the FTFNYT says Pence was all in favor of the idea of going to St. John’s to look tough, but:
He’s not smart enough to know that it would be a shitshow, so he must have been too scared to go out with all the looters and rapists.
NotMax
@Leto
Yeah, I almost never tune it in before 3 p.m. local time (9 p.m. Eastern).
Brian Williams’ show does have some guests of interest but is himself such an obsequious blockhead that I can’t stay with it for long.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@HumboldtBlue: I’m surprised they left out the Two Corinthians line
“Is that the one? Is that the one you like?”
Yutsano
@lamh36: WOOT! All da woot!
WaterGirl
@lamh36: My first thought when I saw her:
Do not fuck with the new mayor.
First reply to the announcement:
Hey, that’s what I said, only yours was more polite.
So excited for Ferguson. This is a good thing.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Interesting point from that Right Wing Watch Twitter thread on the Pat Robertson video:
zhena gogolia
@Mallard Filmore:
I love that movie.
WaterGirl
@Miss Bianca: I needed that, thank you.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@NotMax: I dip in and out through the day, often on the car radio, and most of their anchors have been stressing the peaceful nature of the demonstrations
Mary G
Mr. “I thought we were going to see a vandalized bathroom” tells his troops to stay apolitical. You first, bud.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Whether it comes at dawn or at dusk, a wake-up call is still a wake-up call.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Does god love us that much?
edit: Please let the answer be yes.
JaySinWA
@lamh36: Not a rat. A call to conscience.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/02/secretary-esper-you-violated-your-oath-aiding-trumps-photo-op-thats-why-im-resigning/?arc404=true
Miss Bianca
@Mary G: Oh, ha ha ha HA, Pence may have been the Dumbest Man in Congress, but even he’s smarter than Donald Trump! Maybe he *did* bail so the shit from the shitshow wouldn’t splatter him! (*this* time!)
How long before Trump turns his ire on *him*?!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
that struck me, too, not that I know much about Mennonites
lamh36
Where my big bucket of popcorn!
Mary G
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Leto:
It’s grimly hilarious. How can these people be so goddamn incompetent?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
General Hayden responds to Mike Esper’s interview
Miss Bianca
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Hmmm…that *is* interesting. And about time, I’d say. We always have to consider the notion that some of these fundamentalist Christians actually *are* Christians, and they’re starting to get damned queasy about the time they’ve spent following the Antichrist.
WaterGirl
@JaySinWA: You call it a call to conscience. I call it a last minute attempt to save his own ass.
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Practice, practice, practice.
;)
joel hanes
@HumboldtBlue:
outside the Governor’s mansion in Iowa
Gov. Reynolds will not listen to them in any way. She is proving to be the worst governor Iowa’s had in my lifetime — a distinction that previously belonged to her predecessor, Terry Branstad
frosty
@Mallard Filmore: Pedantic: Costume ball. One of my favorite lines from the movie. Which, BTW, hasn’t aged well.
Punchy
@WaterGirl: sorry if I’m late to the game, but Yahoo has article up that Trump has ordered the convention to skip NC and go elsewhere. I’m sure those hotels and restaurants are so happy….
cain
@lamh36:
Well, that won’t get you to stare at the TV screen.. so they can run ads. Peaceful protests are boring.. Remember the Iraq War protest, it was a record turn out and it was hardly covered because it was super peaceful.
Frankensteinbeck
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
That might be why. The vast majority of evangelical Christianity operates on hypocrisy as one of their core principles. Since all they really care about is hate, the worse Trump gets, the more they love him. A sect with principles, even fucked up and mean and intolerant principles, will eventually have to break from the pack and repudiate Trump. Unfortunately, they can’t be a very big chunk of evangelicalism. Fortunately, even a few percentage points and Trump and the whole Republican Party are in deep shit.
Barbara
@lamh36: Feenstra is probably an authentic ass in his own way, but it would be so sweet to see King lose the office not just because he is horrible, but because he runs his office as a family patronage scheme. They are all on the payroll.
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: I know it shouldn’t surprise me, but even still…
My colleagues and I have been spending weeks coming up with plans to bring back just a hundred or so people (in the first wave). PPE and physical distancing policies. Bathroom utilization rates. Shift scheduling. Blah blah blah. I can only begin to imagine what doing so for a group of 50,000 would be like. Actually, I can imagine: ‘Don’t bring in a group of 50,000 people, moron.’.
Ken
“Good news, I think I’ve managed to convince the mob not to desecrate your corpse.”
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: I agree. It’s not possible to safely have 50,000 in the same physical location during a pandemic. Period.
Smart of NC to ask for the plan for how to do it safely, knowing full well that there could be no plan for doing it safely.
Feels like that was a smart move on the part of NC.
Yutsano
@WaterGirl: Looks like it was a five way race, so Feenstra could pull it off based on that.
Also: was it Greenfield or Franken that was the one the DNC wanted?
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: I talked to my best friend who is a physicist at our university today. He said they are still being told to work from home if at all possible, and he suspects that will continue throughout the summer.
I don’t envy you trying to make a plan.
I also understand, though, that if you’re involved in experiments, either everything comes to a dead halt, or you figure out a way to make it work. And some experiments surely cannot be put on pause – guessing that in some instances, if you stop, that’s it, and all the years of prep are for naught.
JaySinWA
@WaterGirl: I don’t see much ass saving in the letter. He calls out Esper for failure to do the right thing
ETA and he made it public, directly, not some leak. This was a slap in the face of his superior.
WaterGirl
@Yutsano: I don’t know which one the DNC hoped for. It’s awesome if King can be crushed, and spectacular if they have a candidate we could beat in Iowa.
joel hanes
@WaterGirl:
Steve King looks to be a lame duck.
I screwed up the link in my first comment on this; you can follow here:
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/elections/results/local/2020-06-02/00000/
With 12% counted Feenstra leads King 43.5 % to 35.5 %
Disclaimer: Feenstra is not a good guy.
Ken
@dmsilev: I don’t suppose you’ve solved the elevator problem? With a maximum of two people per trip, it easily takes an hour to fill a floor of an office building, worse as you go higher. And of course elevators service multiple floors.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Miss Bianca: Conjecture on my part, but my bet is the Secret Service told Pence not to go.
WaterGirl
@JaySinWA: I just read the letter itself, and I stand corrected. He didn’t pull any punches. And he didn’t just call out Esper; he’s calling out the lot of them. Including the president, by name.
joel hanes
@Yutsano:
was it Greenfield or Franken that was the one the DNC wanted?
The DNC does not do Senate races.
The DSCC backed Greenfield, who has out-raised Franken 5 to 1, and is currently well in the lead.
Full disclosure: I have been regularly donating to Greenfield since the day after she announced.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Neither do I. But it might be significant. Can only hope
@Miss Bianca:
For a lot of evangelicals, they give Trump the ultimate get out of jail free card: God can forgive him. If it’s not that, they’ll deny what’s actually going on or Trump is right; it’s just tough talk and Trump is “defending” himself from the evil media.
Ken
Superior in the technical sense, not in any way that matters.
mrmoshpotato
@Jeffro: Fat, orange, fascist, Soviet shitpile mobster conman needs his Trump trash rallies back. The orange shitstain on democracy (small “d”) isn’t used to people telling him to go fuck himself, so WWWWAAAAHHHH!!!!!
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again – FUCK EVERYONE WHO DIDN’T VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON!
Dan B
@TaMara (HFG): This action by the Guard in Tennessee is amazing. If this spreads it will terrify the GOP.
In WA the governor called up the guard to protect against looters. They haven’t been used against protesters yet.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@NotMax:
Hahah. At least they’re good at something, right?
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: As you can imagine, it’s complicated. For my folks, we distinguish between starting an experiment and maintaining one. The former requires several hours of hands-on work, the latter can be done almost entirely via remote log-in to the control computers plus maybe an hour a week of hands-on. So, we stagger start-ups so that only one takes place at a time, schedule things so that most of the activities are done by just one person except for a few tasks which either inherently need multiple people or can be done by one but a second person needs to be close by in case of an accident.
Most equipment is dedicated to individual experiments, but some is shared, so we need cleaning protocols.
And so on.
WaterGirl
@joel hanes: But is he a “not good guy” the we have a chance of beating?
I never understand when/how they can call the various races when this precinct/county is all red and can change everything or that precinct/county is all blue and their results always come in late.
So I’m not counting my chickens, but damn that would be sweet if he’s out on his ear.
edit: ear of corn?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Frankensteinbeck:
Yup. Eyes on the prize. We have turn out as many people as possible this fall
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: So much to think about. And so much at stake when it’s not just an experiment that’s at risk, but people’s lives.
I think I might find that overwhelming – there’s a reason I would never drive a school bus (well, a million reasons, but you know what I mean.)
You seem to be handling it well, and I commend you for that!
p.s. still eating chocolate cake?
Subsole
@Omnes Omnibus: Lit shit? I thought that was only on Halloween.
Miss Bianca
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Oh, wow…you’re probably right.
Captain C
@dmsilev: If that were to happen, would there be a plausibly deniable way for a Virginia-class sub to torpedo it? Asking for a friend…
Subsole
@Patricia Kayden:
Worse. McConnell could credibly tell Putin to pound ground glass. Trump can’t. I dunno how you become a lower form of life than Trump but there it is.
joel hanes
@WaterGirl:
is [Feenstra] a “not good guy” the we have a chance of beating?
It’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future.
That said, Democrat J.D. Scholten came within a few percent of King’s total in 2018, and 2020 is looking to be a very different kind of election year than was 2018.
You can donate to Scholten here:
https://www.scholten4iowa.com/
I’m going to do that right now. Scholten is a very good guy.
dmsilev
@WaterGirl:
One or two slices left. Ive been doling them out slowly for health’s sake. Fortunately that recipe freezes well.
Dan B
@Leto: Seattle Police have been forceful but restrained. They pushed a group of protesters at 10PM, 5 hours after curfew, down one street and up another for half an hour. The protesters dwindled away slowly and then were gone. No tear-gas (a couple much earlier where there was room for the crowd to get away) and no flash bangs or rubber bullets. They’ve learned from other years to do a dance with them. There were cars set on fire and some businesses wrecked but that seems to be from previous protests being focused and following leaders. The mostly white guys looked for places away from the main group and made trouble.
joel hanes
@WaterGirl:
That said, Greenfield beating Sen. Joni (disgrace to the uniform) Ernst would be a much more important contribution to the future our the nation than replacing King with Scholten.
Subsole
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yahuh. Suuuure buddy. Y’all had no idea.
Right.
I dunno what set of words they think is gonna magically make them look less bad, and I really wish they’d stop wasting everyone’s time looking for it.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
And remember Egypt in Arab Spring, the ruling parties private army with machine guns couldn’t stop the mob when it got going.
Subsole
@raven:
It’s a little town in Louisiana, right?
Subsole
@lamh36:
Fuck Pat Robertson.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@HumboldtBlue: Think in terms of Big Time Wrestling and that’s how Trump’s thinks. All a show and never mind the blood and anger is real. That’s why Trump folds up like he did Friday because he realized the protestors are for real.
Subsole
@NotMax: LOL. Nicely played.
TS (the original)
@lamh36:
He was a member of the Defense Science Board after leaving government service in 2014. probably had nothing to do with trump for the past 3 years – would need to research what this board does – under trump – probably nothing.
Dan B
@Punchy: Charlotte accidentally avoided a bullet. Imagine the costs of security and the likely violence. And who would pay the bill? (Do I have to tell you?) /s
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: The 2020 RNC will be held in Putin’s asshole. Russthuglicans have been sucking for long enough that they know the lay of the land.
HumboldtBlue
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Indeed, wonderful analogy because Trump carried that bible like it was a folding chair, walked into the graffiti-soaked ring and held it up like it was smackdown.
Then he walked away.
Kent
Jennifer Ruben definitely has no fucks left to give today
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/02/it-takes-village-create-monster/
MisterForkbeard
@lamh36: I’m a little sad. Couldn’t happen to a worse person, but his challenger will be harder to beat in November.
Uncle Cosmo
@joel hanes: Does IA have a sore loser’s law? If not, can anyone aggravate the Pig Mucking Incumbent into running as an independent in Nov & maybe opening the door for the Democrat?
West of the Cascades
@Kent: Jennifer Rubin pretty much lost all her fucks about mid-2018. I’ve promised myself to grit my teeth and give serious consideration to her inevitable critiques of the Biden administration (salt tossed over shoulder, wood knocked) – she’s earned that with her scorched earth opposition to Trumpism.
Bill Arnold
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That made my mind ache to watch, but thanks.
D.J. Trump appears to be much more lucid in that Jan 18 2016 video than he is now. I mean, still awful (and yet the audience ate it up), but he’s declined cognitively.
Kayla Rudbek
@Jeffro: I hear you. My parents live in Minneapolis and I haven’t called them since the protests began, because I will finally explode and give them the tongue-lashing of their lives over their blind support of Trump. My brother hasn’t responded to their texts since the protests began as far as I know (we have a three-way discussion going in Apple Messages).
Dupe1970
@Mary G: That’s a shame. You hate to see that.
Calvin Hobbes
Well fuck you right back. By voting for Gary Johnson I fulfilled my duty to vote for the candidate I believed was most qualified for the job.