Sorry I abandoned you on the live feeds today. It’s been a weird day.
Enjoy!
Open thread
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Sorry I abandoned you on the live feeds today. It’s been a weird day.
Enjoy!
Open thread
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dmsilev
I love that, during the musical bits, the ASL guy is grooving with the beat. (Scroll to about thirty or so minutes in)
schrodingers_cat
Caturday Cat wants you to vote.
Patricia Kayden
Journalists need to ask Republican apologists about this on Sunday talk shows.
schrodingers_cat
Jabba the clown can’t even walk down a ramp.
Lapassionara
@Patricia Kayden: How about asking why Trump approved of the thuggish behavior on the interstate highway near Austin, when Trump supporters nearly drove a Biden bus off the road?
Benw
@Patricia Kayden: whelp now we know that Trump is afraid he would collapse under a slight slap. What a predictable moron
happy Halloween everyone!
Aleta
@Lapassionara: Don Jr. seemed to encourage something like it in a video on the 30th — the link to Jr’s “special message” is at the bottom of this page at Law and Crime.
Patricia Kayden
scav
@Patricia Kayden: Ah, the Rethuglican Blueshirts and posse getting getting some official validation for their Buffalo maneuver!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Lapassionara: he’s cheering them on, so is Judge Jeanine and it looks like Newt Gingrich. I can’t bring myself to watch the clip
You take an election into your own hands by voting, you wet-brained boozebag, not by threatening a multi-car and possibly deadly traffic event on a public highway.
piratedan
you know what I want to see? I want to see our local leaders standing up in places like North Carolina and reviewing the video, and if found that this kind of treatment and response is excessive (and you know it likely is, but you give due process like you’re supposed to) and if you find out that they violated protocol and procedure you fire them. If they didn’t violate protocol and procedure, you then demand that the protocols and procedures be rewritten.
I would prefer assaulting them with a baseball bay, stripping them down to their skivvies and then pepper spraying them with their hands cuffed behind their backs, which is why I want the aforementioned to take place because all of this shit pisses me off and I hate the fact that this shit keeps happening and the like minded people are so busy beating back national fascism that this local shit continues to fly. I sure as hell hope that people are keeping receipts because there are some past due bills that need to be collected on this shit.
sorry to be so pissed off about this, I really don’t like feeling this way, to the point of doing something stupid and quite possibly life altering but I am tired of watching people being bullied just because some dipshit in a uniform feels its okay to do so.
Lapassionara
@piratedan: I hope we have not gone too far into fascism, but I am not sure what the future holds, even if Biden wins.
sdhays
@Patricia Kayden: One of the things I’m really looking forward to after the election (I’m not going to entertain negative possibilities) is that we can start to just not care about his goddamn shit-talking. We’ll still need to care to some degree for the next 2.5 months because he’ll still be The Occupant, but being a loser on his way out will reduce this potential of the threat.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
if only there were some prominent Republican living in Texas who could speak up about the growing insanity there that very nearly turned lethal yesterday
ETA: the trump presidency hasn’t just revealed who he is, to borrow Mrs O’s phrase, it’s done even more to show George W Bush for what he is than his own presidency did. He is once again AWOL in the face of a clear and present danger to the American people.
West of the Rockies
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Oh, but how horrified Trumpanzees were though when SHS was booed out of a restaurant a while back.
Aleta
The Keep Going Song: Live From Our House at the End of the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs-ju_L9pEQ
Mike in NC
@West of the Rockies: It wasn’t a Cracker Barrel was it? Couldn’t pay me to ever eat there again.
TS (the original)
@West of the Rockies:
For the rest of their lives I hope anyone who worked for trump is booed – wherever they go.
sdhays
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Indeed. We talk about “No More Fucks Left” Obama, but W is “No More Shits Left”.
I was musing while waiting in line to vote this afternoon how my first vote was for John McCain in the 2000 Republican primary. By the time my state’s primary had come around, Bill Bradley had already dropped out so there wasn’t much going on in the Democratic primary, and I already detested W, so I voted for McCain (even though it was also pretty clear by that time that McCain also wasn’t going to win the Republican nomination). So I voted against W twice that year.
He turned out to be pretty much exactly what 18 year old me thought he was.
Yutsano
Guys guys guys.
I found the most ingenious way to vote.
So my mail ballot still hasn’t arrived. I checked on the SoS website for Washington. The instruction they give is to contact the county. So I go to the county website. Their process for requesting a replacement ballot…loops back to the state website. I’m all geared up to vote in person until I notice an option that says online ballot. Curious I click on it. It bring up a process where YOU CAN COMPLETE THE FULL BALLOT ONLINE!!! The ballot is even a fillable form! I voted straight D then printed the ballot off. Tomorrow it gets signed, stuck in an envelope, and dropped in a ballot box. I’m going through this process and I’m wondering why the heck did I not know of this option until just now? I may never wait on the mail ballot ever again.
EDIT: just added to the I Voted thread. I’ll bug WaterGirl about it tomorrow as she is most likely asleep.
NotMax
FYI.
Days before election, Hawaii sets a record for number of votes cast
oclib
For those that might be interested, here’s Halloween in Key West during a pandemic….
https://irishkevins.com/street-cam-2/
Aleta
Mandy Patinkin @PatinkinMandy
We’ve been married 1037 years, but this election cycle has been frying our nerves and boiling our blood. Luckily we know just what to do when that happens. [video w/ dogs and E.W.]
Jeffro
I hope, foolishly, that the next 3 days (and the interim between Election Day and President Biden’s inauguration) are filled with media types POUNDING the trumpov camp with one simple question:
“will you denounce, discourage, forbid violence by your supporters, no matter how aggrieved you and/or they feel?”
Get him and them on record. Get GOP Senators (hopefully OUTGOING ones) on record. Make them realize that their words and actions (and lack thereof) have consequences.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Aleta: I wanna be Saul Berenson when I grow up, but I think I’m enjoying his recent short videos even more
HumboldtBlue
@Aleta:
I bet you they got a half dozen plants hanging from macrame holders they got from grandma in ’89 and they’re odd friend who’s always in the back yard actually runs a small fruitful backyard garden.
They haven’t paid for onions or herbs in a decade.
Turgidson
@Patricia Kayden: they’ll be too busy stroking their chins and pondering whether Biden takes COVID too seriously.
JaySinWA
@Jeffro: I am afraid the answer will be no. There will be no consequence to T for that answer. The consequence to the country will be bad
I was advised once that it can be better not to ask a question if the answer may well make things worse.
SectionH
@Yutsano: Kewl! I so love living in a state that wants people to vote. CA here, but every single voter here got a mail ballot, and it’s encouraged ;->
Turgidson
@West of the Rockies: she wasn’t even booed. She got a free cheese plate and was politely asked to leave.
theyre seriously the biggest fucking whiners in the history of the universe.
Intensive Porpoises
Long-time lurker, first time commenter. Turned in my ballot yesterday and got confirmation that it had been accepted by the county for processing (Colorado).
Peale
@oclib: tbh. Pretty lame. No one is in costume. I mean, if you’re going out on Halloween because you just want life to be normal, at least dress up. It might be your last time.
NotMax
@Turgidson
IIRC, it was The Red Hen in the quasi-hinterlands of Virginny.
And reportedly the place’s business increased in the aftermath.
Zelma
I watched Barack and Joe’s speeches – again. I just need to hear someone speak coherently! I cannot listen to Trump. I usually turn the sound down when they do a clip of him talking. I thought Joe was particularly passionate in Detroit. Which is a good thing.
NotMax
@Aleta
Happen to have a movie with Patinkin in it running in the background (to which I’m paying intermittent attention). Okay enough premise, but one of those flicks which should be so much better than as it actually turned out.
Aleta
@HumboldtBlue: Hey you’re the one in Humboldt. They’re just in Ohio.
HumboldtBlue
@Aleta:
Ha!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
that last sentence is damn near evergreen
smike
So these yahoo trumpers know that the secret service now has their license plates on record, right? And their (probable) illegal actions recorded, as well, right?
SectionH
Ok, this is too long, but the tl;dr is what I said to Yutsano – it is great to live in a state that wants ppl to vote.
We finally dropped our ballots off today. And I won’t go into reasons why we didn’t get them done sooner, let’s just say this endless season fucks with people’s heads. I love being a “permanent California voter” but somehow beyond the obvious races, I just couldn’t do the research. It’s usually satisfying, Mr S and I sitting down with dueling computers fired up and voter info at hand. But he was dragging his feet even more than I was. As it turned out, Watergirl’s posts about the CA props helped get me going – and saved me time and energy on a several of them in various ways. So again thanks, WG.
Anyway, I managed to screw up my ballot. Really stupidly. I was going back & forth checking which Prop I was working on against what I was reading, and somehow the paper had gotten turned funny, well, upside down, tbh. I was nearly finished filling in the YES oval when I saw that was a different Prop and I’d already voted NO…
Well, I didn’t know if that was enough to spoil the whole ballot, or if they’d just throw out the double vote. But not only didn’t I want to take any chances, the NO on that Prop was a really hard NO. So I worried I’d probably have to wait until Monday to get a new ballot, and all that entailed, but I did go ahead and call the 858-IFCKEDUP #. I wasn’t sure I’d get anything but a recorded message on Saturday afternoon. But this is California. Barely a phone tree, no wait to get someone live, and I said, “I’m an idiot” and the nice lady was nice, and when I told her what I’d done, she said, “Oh that’s easy!” She said “Draw an arrow to the mistake vote. Label that arrow NO. Draw an arrow to the vote you meant and label that one Yes.” I was croggled at how simple that was. So I did. And then we went over to the library and dropped our ballots off.
Yeah, I feel guilty that my ballot’s gonna have to be counted by hand, eventually, but it still seems the best solution. If it comes down to one vote, it’ll be there. It won’t of course*, but yeah.
I’m also glad I didn’t get too weirded out about my real NO vote being labeled Yes, and vice versa. I reckon that’s because if you somehow screw up a vote for Jones to be a vote for Smith, Yes and No make sense. It’s the juxtaposition of Yes and No on the Props that I’m not gonna think about any more.
And then we ordered some take out pizza and got some beer (some local IPA for him, I was a hophead a in the ’90s, I don’t drink that stuff anymore) and cider (2 Towns Bright, not Julian but oh well) and we are hanging on.
*come down to one vote, I meant.
Winston
Should we vote for Kamala?
https://youtu.be/z3U0udLH974
Yutsano
@Jeffro: I’ll take “Things the Media Will Never Do” for $2000 Alex.
C’mon man. You and I and the electrons between us know that this ain’t gonna happen. The media does nothing that their corporate owners don’t want them to do. And they so so want another sweet sweet tax cut.
Patricia Kayden
Sister Golden Bear
Chef’s kiss!
CaseyL
Well, here’s what I did with the little bag of Halloween candy: a “reverse” Trick or Treat.
I poured the candy into a couple of containers, put on two masks (one for Halloween, one for Covid-19), and took a container to each of the two units in our townhouse complex where small children live.
The families in question were very surprised, and loved it.
It was fun, and I don’t have a whole bunch of candy in the kitchen calling my name.
NotMax
Scientist friend (professional astronomer) put up a short video on why the media has it wrong and what is in the sky tonight is NOT a Blue Moon.
SoupCatcher
@Winston:
If you’re not going to stand up against the Confederacy, the Klan, the Nazis, and all the others supporting Trump, then you’ll never stand up.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
looks like local law enforcement is working very hard to not see a problem there, except one guy who says it’s the Biden team’s fault
MisterForkbeard
@Patricia Kayden: Yes. Joe is the feeble candidate.
Wasn’t there one who could barely make it down the stairs just a month or two ago? Who also struggled to lift a glass of water? Who was that, anyway?
Winston
Today started out great. I got up and for the first time in a long time felt no pain. So I made a list; clean the kitchen, clean the bathroom, Make coffee and put on a big pot of spaghetti. Then the announcement came over the loudspeaker in the park. “Sorry, but we have to turn off the water for a few hours.” So I went back to sleep. When the announcement came several hours later, I got up and could hardly move. So took a couple pain pills and read the news. Fucked up my whole day. Well, tomorrow is another one, and I still have the list. Happy Halloween everyone. ?
Kristine
Checked the Lake County IL Voter Services site again. The ballot I mailed back on the 19th was received on the 21st, has been reviewed, and will be counted.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
this man-boy is not doing well….
Mai Naem mobile
I dropped off my ballot to the downtown ballot drop off box(lemme tell you it was a pain – wrong instructions, construction, one way streets) because I am freaking paranoid that somebody will mess with it elsewhere. This ballot box was in front of the sheriff’s downtown station and it looked like they had a deputy physically protecting it. I’ve got two ballot drop off boxes within 5 miles of my home but I felt better about this one. Anyhow, I swing from fantasy island where Biden gets >400 electoral votes, Gym Jordan and Kevin McCarthy lose theirs seats and Dems pick up 12 Senate seats and keep Alabama to Biden losing and the GOP holding on to the Senate. I cannot handle another 4 years of Orange Dbag.
West of the Rockies
@Intensive Porpoises:
Welcome aboard! I like your nym. Is the expression “for all intents and purposes” or “for all intensive purposes”? I never really know and have said both.
Redshift
Just got done watching the Wisconsin Dems’ latest event, a Zoom-ish production of Rocky Horror. It was fun and bizarre. A couple of the original cast, and lots of other actors and singers. They switched off performers between the scripted bits (done live, I think) and the recorded song performances. Tim Curry gamely did what he could (since he had a stroke a few years ago), and I’m glad they included him.
Mary G
SectionH
@CaseyL: That’s a lovely idea!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Redshift:
I hadn’t heard that. Too bad. I heard Susan Sarandon wasn’t part of it. I suppose it’s too much to hope they voted her out ? Though now that I think of it somebody told me she’s announced she’s voting for Biden
Redshift
@Sister Golden Bear: Petard, meet hoist! ?
Matt McIrvin
@SectionH: I have many beefs with the current government of Massachusetts (their COVID-19 strategy in particular), but one thing I will say for them: they want people to vote and are now pretty good at making it easy. Which is why I was able to vote weeks ago with no real hassle. One thing that did concern me was that the interior envelope of my mail ballot was completely unglued and I had to tape it shut. In a state keen on vote suppression that might have been a major mistake. But this seems to have been no impediment to getting it accepted.
Though many of the improvements are very recent–no-excuse mail/early voting has only existed since 2016 and has only been extended to all elections this year.
NotMax
@West of the Rockies
Intents and purposes.
Always and only.
Ksmiami
@Mai Naem mobile: if Trump wins I’m outta here. I’m going to buy a business in Europe and check out
Redshift
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Well, Tim and Nell Campbell (Little Nell, who is still awesome as Columbia) and Barry Bostwick were the only original cast members, so I’m inclined to think she wasn’t deliberately excluded.
HumboldtBlue
Another Trump rally, another abandoned ingénue.
Mai Naem mobile
@Ksmiami: you’re assuming Europe will let you go there during the COVID pandemic.
MisterForkbeard
@Ksmiami: I think our plan is Canada. I suggested New Zealand or Australia, but my wife has nixed them due to global warming and climate concerns.
Would set up residency/citizenry and form an outpost for my entire extended family to rally around. I think only a few of us would want to live in a country that could re-elect Trump.
Aleta
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The one is weird, his face twisting, eyes almost never blinking.
https://twitter.com/KamVTV/status/1321543980165857283
Calouste
@Mai Naem mobile: Not really a problem if you’re moving there permanently, of course there’s still the two weeks quarantine. But you can move to Europe if you have cash, a half a million euros investment in real estate gets you into Portugal.
rikyrah
@Winston:
???
Ksmiami
@Mai Naem mobile: I’ll wait out quarantine but yeah. I will not live in a fascist country and the writing is literally graffitied on the wall.
James E Powell
@Calouste:
Is that all?
Ksmiami
@James E Powell: yes
prostratedragon
@Winston: To a better tomorrow (ting)!
Calouste
@James E Powell: Yep: http://www.livinginportugal.com/en/moving-to-portugal/golden-residence-permit-programme/
Apparently only 280,000 even if you buy a property more than 30 years old in a low population density area.