Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

75% of people clapping liked the show!

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

In my day, never was longer.

The words do not have to be perfect.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

I’m more christian than these people and i’m an atheist.

I am pretty sure these ‘journalists’ were not always such a bootlicking sycophants.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

I would gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today.

Washington Post Catch and Kill, not noticeably better than the Enquirer’s.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

Petty moves from a petty man.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Bad people in a position to do bad things will do bad things because they are bad people. End of story.

The willow is too close to the house.

Their shamelessness is their super power.

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

All hail the time of the bunny!

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If we never get to see TFG hauled off to a supermax cell, I will at least enjoy watching him and his criminal cronies scuttle around desperately making excuses and pointing fingers at each other…

One of the things I best remember, from the Summer of Watergate, was how every time Nixon’s Repub enablers convinced each other that the worst had been faced down… something even nastier and less defensible would be uncovered. Today’s Repubs don’t even have that threadbare security blanket; they know there’s always worse, they know TFG will say it out loud, and they know his loyalist supporters will never shut up about it.

Two months till the midterms, fellas!

Remember the American military trying to winkle Noriega out of his compound in Panama by blasting hard rock in the small hours? TFG is old enough to remember this novelty hit…

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  1. 1.

    LeftCoastYankee

    That song is much creepier without Dr. Demento’s intro….

    “Udderly Mad”  (rather than “Utterly”) is in line with the lecherous creepy I now detect in the song (no longer being 10 years old).

  2. 2.

    Freemark

    Imagine if Hilary had been found to have a single Top Secret memo from the State Department in her possession. Every media outlet would have been screaming to hav her tried.

  3. 3.

    Poe Larity

    Damned those Librarians!

    I always thought they were suspicious with all those books and their Dewey Decimal scheming.

  6. 6.

    sukabi

    the disturbing part of those Jort-Michel Connard tweets is that it’s entirely possible all of that could happen….

  7. 7.

    Mai Naem mobile

    I don’t want to ever hear from any member of the GOP boasting about the GOP being the party of a strong national defense, of patriotism and of law and order. It wasn’t just ftfg. It was all his damn effing GOP enablers.  What a bunch of cowards.

  9. 9.

    Edmund Dantes

    Here’s the thing, if you aren’t going to indict trump for this, you might as well just give up the game. Pack it in as far as the idea of no one is above the law.

    There are no plausible paths to innocent mistake. He didn’t really understand. You gave him a year of negotiation to make it right. Something no other person in this place would get. So either this stuff matters or it doesn’t and we should just admit they are just pretty words and fairy tales we use to delude ourselves.

    You can’t get to this point of completely undermining the entire national security apparatus of the government and go “salright, learn your lesson for next time”. Cause we already used up that lesson with Nixon.

    Trump has to be prosecuted. Even if their is a high probability of jury nullification if enough MAGA people get on the jury.

  10. 10.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    What makes an indictment likely is the obstruction.

    He actively hid files from the FBI. He falsely declared he no longer retained files. He refused to respond to subpoenas.

  12. 12.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

     Today’s Repubs don’t even have that threadbare security blanket; they know there’s always worse

    I noticed that not a single one of them said he was innocent.

    The ones who defended him said they didn’t like the precedent set by the search. But no one said he was innocent. Even Rand Paul who said the FBI planted materials by definition admitted he was holding classified documents.

  13. 13.

    satby

    So discussion about this is all over twitter: “Last year, a top-secret memo sent to every C.I.A. station around the world, warned about troubling numbers of informants being captured or killed” Trump Inquiry Fueled in Part by Concern Over Human Intelligence Sources in Documents Trump Improperly Took. (Tweet includes a ink to NYT article, which of course is paywalled, sorry). Edit: oh, she has a gift link in a tweet below.

  14. 14.

    satby

    Kinda have to wonder how much the ginned up fauxrage about student loan forgiveness expressed by the GQP was an attempt to divert attention from the revelations about the kinds of documents tfg had and the probability he’s already sold the intelligence.

  16. 16.

    Tony Jay

    This story will reach its natural apotheosis when Trump, indicted for numerous crimes, including espionage, drop dead of a brain embolism when the courtroom doors open and the prosecution wheels in the Mar-el-Largo fax machine to enter it’s Sent log into evidence.

    Are they truly that stupid? They appear to be.

  17. 17.

    Geminid

    Florida has its Governor candidates choose their running mate for Lieutenant Governor. CBS Miami reports that Charlie Crist has picked Karla Hernandez-Mats, a teacher and the current head of United Teachers for Dade, the largest Miami teachers union.

    Hernandez-Mats also serves on the board of its parent union, the Florida Education Association. The FEA endorsed Crist early on, and helped persuade the state’s AFL-CIO to endorse Crist this summer.

    Crist’s choice of Hernandez-Mats ensures that the issue of public education will be in the forefront of his campaign. Local Democrats responded with with enthusiasm:

        “Love it,” state Sen. Shev Jones (D-Miami) said in a text. “Karla has ALWAYS had her ear to the ground  for the people, and she’s a natural galvinizer. Great pick!”

    Florida state Sen. Jason Pizzo, also of Miami, described her as “bright, warm and tough.”

    From Politico 

    Crist will introduce Ms. Hernandez-Mats today at his official campaign kickoff event. The rally will be held at Miami’s Hialeah Middle School, where she taught special needs children for 10 years.

  18. 18.

    Joey Maloney

    Crist’s choice of Hernandez-Mats ensures that the issue of public education will be in the forefront of his campaign.

    I think it also ensures lots of foot soldiers from the Florida Education Association to help out his campaign.

  20. 20.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Tony Jay: This story will reach its natural apotheosis when Trump, indicted for numerous crimes, including espionage, drop dead of a brain embolism when the courtroom doors open and the prosecution wheels in the Mar-el-Largo fax machine to enter it’s Sent log into evidence.

    Go on.

  27. 27.

    p.a.

    Speaking of fax machines, Fox is going pretty big on the dangers of MaryJaneWanna, indicating I think

    1) Summer programming doldrums

    2) Institutional “demographics, not to be broadened” attitude

    3) Keeping “rapist hordes at our southern border” holstered until closer to the election

    4) Endemic laziness caused by knowing its audience will swallow anything they puke out.

  28. 28.

    Tony Jay

    @mrmoshpotato:

    @Frank Wilhoit:

    Amidst the sudden chaos, as the judge rat-a-tats their hammer and the stricken former President leaks a pool of weak piss onto the courtroom floor, son turns to son-in-law and hisses –

    “We unplugged that, right? Right?”

    A single plucked eyebrow arched slowly across a sheen of Botox.

    “Of course. We’re not all as stupid as you, Eric.”

  32. 32.

    JWR

    our big sweaty boy’s been scrapbooking

    Far be it from me to go out of my way to praise the intel agencies, but damn it, I paid good money for them to collect all this cloak and dagger stuff, and Fat Boy here treats it like used toilet paper. Literally.

  35. 35.

    Geminid

    Politico reports that McConnell’s Senate Leadership Fund is pulling half of its advertising reservations for the Arizona Senate race. Polling shows Senator Mark Kelly holding a consistent lead over Republican opponent Blake Masters. The cutback leaves $8 million to spend boosting Masters in October. Kelly’s campaign and its allied PACs have $40 million on hand.

    The Senate Leadership Fund also pulled a smaller amount of money from the Alaska Senate race. The top two finishers in that state’s open primary were Lisa Murkowski and Kelly Tshibaka, both Republicans. Tshibaka has trump’s endorsement, but Murkowski is favored to win the four candidate, ranked choice runoff election in November.

  41. 41.

    Math Guy

    I think he’ll be indicted and then work out a plea deal whereby he doesn’t serve a day in prison, the RNC pays his fines, and he is barred from ever holding public office again. Then he will raise funds from the rubes for his campaign to reverse the charges and be reinstated as the real president. Sigh.

  42. 42.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    @Frank Wilhoit: ​
      Those things were huge (photo) They weighted 46 lbs. I’ve never seen one in person. But they use one in the movie “Bullitt” to transmit criminal records. It blows your mind.

  43. 43.

    lowtechcyclist

    @satby: ​
     

    guess I’m the only one awake 😅

    Usually I’d have been up, but by some miracle I slept until 6:20am today. I feel lucky when I sleep past 5.

    They just gotta lock the fat orange bastard up. As others have said, if we don’t do so for violations this egregious, we can throw out the entire notion that no one is above the law.

    I’m happy to give AG Garland the time to make his case airtight, but I feel like we’re nearing the point where a second-year law student could manage that.

  44. 44.

    Low Key Swagger

    @lowtechcyclist: I rarely sleep more than 6 hours, sadly.  I feel ya.  One disturbing take I heard this morning on MSNBC is that the nature of these documents might make it impossible for the DOJ to prosecute.  I mean, they’ve managed to indict, try, and convict others in the past…do juries have to have access to the documents in question to reach a verdict?

  45. 45.

    Geminid

    @Math Guy: My Atlanta friend also predicts a plea deal under which trump would be barred from future public office. I don’t like the idea. It would allow trump’s adherents to say this was the government’s motivation all along. But my friend still fears trump as a candidate, and I do not.

  46. 46.

    Gvg

    @Edmund Dantes: It’s not true that no other person would get this kind of exemption from the law. They also protected Nixon from most of it, Reagan, Both Bush’s, Scooter Libby, and quite a few other republicans. It’s become so normal that we don’t always even recognize it. They don’t go to jail. Sometimes they don’t win an election that they thought they were entitled to but it’s not always clear that that is why and they can still win later. They and their voters think that is right and they keep trying to win us over by offering to reinstate or pardon our sides crooks as if that would make us happy. They don’t even notice that we stop voting for our crooks.

    A part of the problem is that a significant portion of the Republican voters are crooks and they think that is normal, that everyone else is too. I think that may be part of the problem with all of them actually. They grew up around bad people. The bad people said they were good people. Everyone around them said up is down….

    Changing things means more white collar crime prosecutions, which means carefully more judges and prosecutors and court officials. We should also carefully cut back on the poor and minority persecution. Cop harassment for nothing is a waste of resources but it’s amazing how outraged the barely middle class can get about thee homeless and the mess of some litter and begging. You have to keep it under control or you will lose all the next elections and have HOA natzis in charge of everything. People pay attention to the little trivia next door and not the big fancy crimes by important people and that is part of why we are where we are I think.

  48. 48.

    Geminid

    @Geminid: Charlie Crist’s running mate is a second generation union member. Karla Hernandez-Mat’s father was an accountant in Honduras, but after emigrating to Florida he worked as a farm hand, cutting sugar cane and picking tomatos. Then he was offered an opportunity for training and collective bargaining by the carpenters union, and he joined. From Floridapolitics.com.

  49. 49.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Geminid:

    My Atlanta friend also predicts a plea deal under which trump would be barred from future public office. I don’t like the idea. It would allow trump’s adherents to say this was the government’s motivation all along.

    I would hate any sort of plea deal that exempted Trump from any meaningful consequences.  We’re at a point where, as a society, we desperately need to reestablish the principle that nobody is above the law. Too often, the rich and powerful skate. (I’m still pissed about robosigning from the Great Recession.)

    If he skates, even with a plea deal admitting guilt and barring him from future public office, that’s too close to nothing in the eyes of most people.  Even a huge fine wouldn’t change that, given all the times over the past six or seven years that his finances have magically gone from disastrous to sitting pretty.

    Anything where guilt is practically a given at this point, given the evidence (including obstruction from Mueller’s investigation AFAIAC), he needs to be indicted and tried, and if convicted, he needs to receive the same sorts of sentences that similar but non-influential offenders would receive.

  50. 50.

    JWR

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: What everybody else said! Damn, dude, the Milky Way really looks as if it’s just hanging there in the sky, almost 3-D, even! My favorite? The one looking down the road. Very nice.

  51. 51.

    Geminid

    @Geminid: floridapolitics.com also has a report on the first poll taken since Charlie Crist’s primary victory. It showed DeSantis leading Crist 51%-47%, within the poll’s 3.5% margin of error. The poll found weakness in DeSantis’ support among independents, who broke for Crist 52%-39%.

    The article noted that when respondents “were educated about DeSantis’ position on property insurance, abortion…and his treatment of broadly popular entities like Disney and the Special Olympics, enough voters moved to turn the Governor’s race into a tossup.”

  52. 52.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @satby: I wasn’t awake when you posted the link, but I am now. From the NYT gift article:

    “It appears, based on the affidavit unsealed this morning, that among the improperly handled documents at Mar-a-Lago were some of our most sensitive intelligence,” Mr. Warner said.

    Until more about the nature of the documents is publicly known it is impossible to tell what, if any damage was done. But former officials stressed that counterintelligence experts often will take measures to protect sources or change collection methods if they believe a classified document could have been viewed by people not authorized to see it.

    “It is a principle of counterintelligence that when you believe a code or classified material has been possibly compromised you have to assume the worst,” Mr. Gerstell said. “It is a powerful reason to know what is in the documents and who had access.”

  53. 53.

    topclimber

    @lowtechcyclist: I could live with a plea bargain where he admits  guilt. Sentence him to probation subject to his cooperation in ratting out his underlings. The latter would would go a long way toward making the dwindling number of MAGA faithful understand how far from a god this joker is. It might make them less likely to bite when the next wannabe Trump offers a properly baited line.

    Then I think…did this jerk endanger folks on our side by his mercenary or malicious or just damn cavalier use of classified information? If so, he has to do time.

    Just make it solitary confinement, out of concern for the mental health of any poor cellmate. Can you imagine having to put up with the endless whining and self-adulation?

  55. 55.

    Amir Khalid

    Just for some perspective.

    Until very recently, many Malaysians were unconvinced that Najib Razak would ever see the inside of a jail cell. We feared that his still-considerable influence would keep him a free man, maybe even get him a royal pardon and let him resume his political career. Well, the facts of the SRC International case were unanswerable: some US$10 million in company funds were indeed re-routed to his personal bank account, and he did spend the money. So, after exhausting his appeals, into the hoosegow he went.

    But the law isn’t done with him. Two days after he was jailed, another of his trials resumed: faces several counts of embezzling a total of US$400 million from 1MDB itself, laundering the money, and abusing his power to do so. He’s looking at more jail time and billions in fines. And as the convictions pile up, his chances of a royal pardon will only diminish.

    I believe TFG is headed for a similar future.

  56. 56.

    sab

    @Low Key Swagger: Frank Figliuzzi was saying MSNBC last night that the likely prosecution would be for obstruction. Prosecuting espionage would require revealing too much about the underlying documents, so the security people would say prosectuion would be to dangerous.

  58. 58.

    Ken

    @p.a.: Fox is going pretty big on the dangers of MaryJaneWanna

    Huh. Anecdotally,

    1. Most of the people I know who are using (now-legal) marijuana are in the Fox 60-and-older demographic, and many are using it recreationally, not medically
    2. On a recent cross-state drive through the Trumpy regions, about half the commercials on local radio were for marijuana shops, and a fair percentage were for services who would help you get a medical marijuana card

    But by all means continue.

  59. 59.

    Geminid

    @Amir Khalid: I think you are correct as to trump’s future. The process will be frustating to many though. Between pretrial and post trial appeals, trump could go three years between indictment and imposition of sentence.

    My Atlanta friend thinks that trump will accept a plea bargain early in the process. But Warren conditioned this prospect on trump being compos mentis, of sound mind. I questioned this. I think trump’s narcissistic disorder is only deepening, perhaps compounded by early stage dementia. He has no one in his inner circle willing to tell him the truth. He cannot attract defense lawyers of stature, and at this point I’m not sure he really wants to.

    Also, trump’s public cheerleaders are egging him on, and he sees the money he raised after the FBI search as validation. trump seems likely to keep digging his hole deeper.

  60. 60.

    Scout211

    Reposted from upstairs.  This thread is more appropriate for this:

    CNN posted the 12-page filing the F-POTUS team submitted to the judge requesting the  special master.

    They also have an analysis.

    In the new Friday night filing, Trump pointed to some additional legal discussion of case law that he said supported his request. One of those cases had to do with his former attorney Rudy Giuliani. Nowhere in the filing did Trump suggest that material dealing with attorney-client privilege was seized in the FBI’s search of his resort.

    The new response appeared to fall short of the elaboration Cannon was seeking. Trump did not elaborate on what exactly he hoped a special master — a third-party attorney — would filter out, besides general allusions to “privileged and potentially privileged materials.”

    He also did not include with the filing a motion for immediate action from the judge — like a request for a temporary restraining order or a preliminary injunction — despite the judge’s request that he put before her “the precise relief sought, including any request for injunctive relief pending resolution of the Motion.”

  62. 62.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Gvg: ​
     

    A part of the problem is that a significant portion of the Republican voters are crooks and they think that is normal, that everyone else is too.

    And this is hardly new. Back during/after Watergate, I can’t tell you how often I heard that ‘they all do it, Nixon was just the one that got caught.’

  63. 63.

    Steeplejack

    @Geminid:

    Is allocution a requirement in a guilty plea? I cannot imagine TFG* standing up in court and verbally admitting anything at all. But a plea deal might work if it bars him from holding office ever again. And I would love to see house arrest, if not jail time—restricted to Mar-a-Lago for a good stretch of time, preferably including a sweltering summer or two. A guy can dream.

    * Not gonna call him FPOTUS. With “POTUS” in there it still gives him too much respect, as in any at all.

  64. 64.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Ruckus:

    Every media outlet would have been screaming to hav her tried hung hanged.

    I presume they wouldn’t be demanding gender reassignment surgery for her.

  65. 65.

    Geminid

    @Steeplejack: Any house arrest at Mar-a-Loco would run up against the rezoning of that estate to a private club, which stipulated that guests could not stay more than three consecutive weeks. If Palm Beach officials faced the prospect of trump becoming a long term prisoner there, I expect they would sue to stop it.

    Fort Jefferson, on one of the Dry Tortugas, might be a better place. That’s where the infamous Doctor Mudd was imprisoned for setting John Wilkes Booth’s broken leg. Mudd was freed after four years, as a reward for helping suppress a deadly epidemic.

    Fort Jefferson is now part of the National Parks system, and draws over a hundred thousand visitors a year. But it is the largest brick masonry structure in North America, and just one corner would provide spacious accomodations for trump, guards and medical staff, as well as a Secret Service detail. As extra punishment, Steve Bannon and Roger Stone could be jailed with him.

  66. 66.

    PaulB

    @eddie blake:iirc, she had three documents that were made classified AFTER the fact.

    Not quite. There were quite a few messages that contained classified information, both at the time and information that was retroactively classified, more than just three. There were, however, only three that were actually marked as classified at the time she received the email, according to Comey at his infamous press conference.

    Two of those were emails about potential upcoming phone calls with foreign dignitaries. It’s routine to classify such information (the schedule of the call, talking points, etc.) until the phone call is either made or the SoS decides to not make the call, at which point the material is no longer considered classified. Comey never revealed the details about the third email, as far as I can tell.

    Even though those three messages did contain a C marking somewhere in the body of the text, none of them were properly marked as classified. “Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small ‘c’ in parentheses, described as ‘portion markings’ by Comey,” according to Wikipedia.

  67. 67.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @Steeplejack:

    And I would love to see house arrest, if not jail time—restricted to Mar-a-Lago for a good stretch of time, preferably including a sweltering summer or two. A guy can dream.
     

    With no internet or phone connectivity. Period. He should be allowed to watch Fox. This will allow him to see how the world has passed him by, and how inconsequential he is or ever was.

    A nice side benefit of this outcome would be that all those people in the Bedminster area will get a lot of relief if Trump never visits again. The rich shits around MAL pretty much deserve Trump as a neighbor (and in any event, have enough money to avoid the worst of their neighbor). The NJ and PA towns around Bedminster don’t.

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    @Geminid:

    I thought Trump already blew through that years ago, because Mar-a-Lago supposedly couldn’t be used as his personal residence, which of course he proceeded to do.

  70. 70.

    Geminid

    @Steeplejack: He did. I think the rezoning agreement is still in place, though and city officials could put their foot down if trump’s presence would be indefinite.

    But we’re talking about an eventuality that I think is some years away. By then, trump may have to be put in the high security federal prison/hospital in Missouri, where they sent the guy who shot Gabby Giffords and others.

  71. 71.

    TurnItOffAndOnAgain

    @Geminid:

    I think you are correct as to trump’s future. The process will be frustating to many though. Between pretrial and post trial appeals, trump could go three years between indictment and imposition of sentence.

     

    This could actually be good for us. I can imagine some non-tuned in mushy middle voter thinking a year or so from now “Maybe it’s okay for me to vote for Republicans again.” just in time for some more news about TFG’s crimes or trial to come out because all that is still ongoing at that point. Could be the gift that keeps on giving.

  72. 72.

    Steeplejack

    @Geminid:

    Okay. But I definitely want him to suffer some physical . . . something—inconvenience, if nothing else. Not just a legal slap on the wrist, however “serious” it is. I think what I want is some tangible public humiliation that he can’t ignore or explain away—or grift on!

  73. 73.

    Ruckus

    @Tony Jay:

    “Are they truly that stupid? They appear to be.”

    It is far more than just appearance.

    They run on the concept that if they all stick together and lie at the same rate/degree, they will not be prosecuted. They didn’t know any better. Doesn’t work with 5 yr olds but then these clowns have the mental range of a 4 yr old so anything is possible…..

  74. 74.

    leeleeFL

    @Freemark: Feck tried, shot on sight!  I do remember warning ppl of exactly this outcome on Day 2 of the beginning of tRumps campaign.  They said Hillary was a traitor!  Feck ’em!  I hope they all have permanent intestinal problems

  75. 75.

    Geminid

    @Steeplejack: I want to see multiple convictions, fines and prison sentences. I don’t care so much if trump serves out a sentence under some kind of house arrest, but it will have to be a place more secure than Mar-a-Loco because he will be a crazy-magnet.

    Also, even if the feds can’t prove criminally culpability for the Insurrection, I’m hoping plaintiffs in civil suits can get large judgements against trump for the physical and emotional damage they and their loved ones suffered during that assault. I think the lawsuits filed are patterned after the successful civil suit filed against the organizers of the deadly Charlottesville rally of 2017.

    But my vindictive side wants to see trump locked up with that loony Laura Loomer. That would truly be hell on earth!

  76. 76.

    Ruckus

    @Geminid:

    I tend to agree with this take.

    SFB’s major driving force for all of his life has been having the most money for the least effort. By that I mean he didn’t seem to care how his money was made, as long as it didn’t cost him anything. Which meant screwing everyone else worse than he was screwing himself. And he was reasonably effective at that, until the spotlight was on him 24 hrs a day. Which of course his sparkling personality likes even more than free money. And he can’t seem to manage more than one catastrophe at a time, all the while he’s trying to juggle about 12 of them. IOW I think his time has come. He put himself in the brightest spot light possible and it has never gotten turned off, which makes it obvious that he’s juggling way, way over his head. And aging, really hasn’t gone well for him. The support among his fellow racist haters will subside as his magic power of hate and bullshit becomes far more obviously failing because he can no longer help them get their hate on.

  78. 78.

    Soprano2

    @Gvg: People care about the stuff that affects them directly, that they see every day or every week. That’s why “doing something” about the visible homeless population is such a big thing with voters (sadly, the “thing” they want is for the homeless to just go away, and they don’t care how that happens). It’s why they don’t care about white collar crime unless it’s huge and obvious but care a lot about petty break-ins. However, at this point what TFG has done is huge, obvious, and easy to understand and talk about, so people will care.

  80. 80.

    Soprano2

    @Geminid: Oh man, don’t send him to Fed Med, they already cause us enough trouble with what gets flushed down the toilets (how do you get a whole bedsheet down a toilet anyway?).

  81. 81.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    What ever we think he did, it is worse.

    That’s why I am sure Trump was using those nuclear secrets as his GM manual in his LARP and letting just about anyone who would join his role play group at Maro-Largo read them.  I mean the guy was cosplay billionaire after all.

  84. 84.

    Chris Johnson

    @satby: Ya mean like, if Trump was always a Russian asset and has been working this whole time to betray the USA to the Russians?

    Fancy that.

  85. 85.

    bcw

    This talk of a supermax prison for Trump is misplaced;  history shows he could be detained indefinitely on a small platform surrounded by ramps.

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