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Tuesday Morning Odds & Ends (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  April 29, 20258:44 am| 223 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Trumpery

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We finally got some much-needed rain yesterday evening. The added moisture brought tasty grubs, bugs and what-not to the surface for the dining pleasure of a pair of Sandhill Cranes who visit daily.

A pair of tall, long-legged, long-necked gray birds with red stripes on the top of their heads standing on a riverbank.

I feel so lucky to share a riverbank with these stately descendants of dinosaurs and try to present as non-threatening when sneaking around for a shot. But I get the feeling they’re thinking, “Fuck off, you hideous hairless ape!”

***

I see that congratulations are in order for our good neighbors to the north: PM Mark Carney retained his post, and the Conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre, lost his seat. (NYT) It’s unclear yet whether Carney’s Liberals won a majority in Parliament, but great job, everybody!

And a special thanks to the Canadian readers who weighed in on yesterday’s post about the election. I learned a lot from your comments.

***

Speaking of polities that retain a shred of national dignity, Bluesky commenter Adam Gurri collected a list of grievances from the U.S. Declaration of Independence that are eerily applicable to our current situation:

Tuesday Morning Odds & Ends (Open Thread)

Next year marks the 250th anniversary of the Declaration. Our forebears went on to overthrow their tyrannical king, and I can’t think of a better way to celebrate than to toss the current would-be king out on his ass. But the only way to do that prior to an election is impeachment and removal.

As outrage grows about Trump’s lawlessness and overreach on multiple fronts, I hear more rumblings about the “I” word in left spaces, including Bluesky. Mistermix posted about the pros and cons of impeachment at Reverse Pyromania here.

***

Meanwhile, the orange shitgoblin is staging a rally in Michigan today to celebrate the catastrophic first 100 days of his second term, which include the illegal usurpation of hundreds of billions in funding for critical programs. AP has the rally details:

He’s expected to speak at a rally at Macomb Community College, north of Detroit, allowing him to revel in leading a sprint to upend government and social, political and foreign policy norms.

Michigan was one of the battleground states Trump flipped from the Democratic column. But it’s also been deeply affected by his tariffs, including on new imported cars and auto parts.

If I remember my ancient U.S. political history correctly, Macomb County was the region where the “Reagan Democrats” emerged in 1980. The post-election analysis gave birth to a media narrative that still grips reporters who were not yet born then.

Wouldn’t it be something if Michiganders turned out en masse to tell the current demented old coot to get the fuck out? They could borrow the more elegant words of the Declaration and object to “a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.”

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    April 29, 2025 at 8:49 am

    But I get the feeling they’re thinking, “Fuck off, you hideous hairless ape!”

    I’ve been there, crane. I’ve been there.

  2. 2.

    Lapassionara

    April 29, 2025 at 8:54 am

    Love the excerpts from the Declaration of Independence. So fitting.

  3. 3.

    Suzanne

    April 29, 2025 at 8:54 am

    I am interested to see how the tariffs “play” in Michigan. Gretchen Whitmer may have lit her political career on fire by appearing with Trump and being somewhat mealy-mouthed about them. (And hiding behind her binder was….. not a good look, OMG.) The gossip from Smart People is that Michiganders favor the tariffs due to the auto industry. That strikes me as incredibly short-sighted…. but that’s a gentle way to describe probably 40% of American voters.

  4. 4.

    terraformer

    April 29, 2025 at 8:54 am

    Love that list of grievances! So apt for the current moment.

    A rally, eh? Looking forward to wall-to-wall coverage of how Hair Führer was *completely lucid*, and made compelling cases for what he is doing/wants to do; that he did not lose focus in any way, shape, or form, such as veering off, multiple times, into unrelated topics; and totally didn’t lie about anything why do you ask

  5. 5.

    Jackie

    April 29, 2025 at 8:54 am

    Too bad I need to wash my hair tonight! And paint my nails…

  6. 6.

    stinger

    April 29, 2025 at 8:55 am

    Somebody must have wished for me, “May you live in interesting times.” Dammit.

  7. 7.

    Jeffro

    April 29, 2025 at 9:00 am

    I’m pretty tied up today, but I bookmarked two articles for later reading…

    The first is the Times’ piece on trump’s eye-popping corruption when it comes to crypto.  You could not find or make up a clearer case of a president straight-up using his office to line his pockets (and secretly, too) (and from the world’s worst actors, too).  The piece even notes Carter’s peanut farm, Bush Sr’s blind trust, etc.  The corruption is so over-the-top that even our blessed snooze media is waking up and finding it newsworthy, which really is incredible.

    The second is a Pew poll piece that shows white evangelical support for trump holding up at an astounding 72% approval rating…and 69% rate the ethics of trump admin officials as excellent or good

    72% approve of the way Trump is currently handling his job as president.

    69% rate the ethics of top Trump administration officials as excellent or good.

    57% say they trust what Trump says more than what previous presidents said.

    It would be easy to be depressed by those numbers…but on the flip side, that means that a quarter of white evangelicals do not approve of trump, and nearly third of white evangelicals know that trump & Co’s ethics are not good…

    …and that’s only three months into his term.

  8. 8.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 9:01 am

    @Suzanne: Whitmer is appearing with Trump today (AP):

    He will make an afternoon visit to Selfridge Air National Guard Base for an announcement alongside Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

    No idea what that’s about. I respect that she’s in a difficult position but haven’t found much impressive about Whitmer in the post-election coverage I’ve seen so far. Maybe she’ll step up. It’s early yet.

  9. 9.

    rikyrah

    April 29, 2025 at 9:01 am

    Good Morning Everyone 😊 😊 😊

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    April 29, 2025 at 9:02 am

    Congratulations Canada 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦

     

    Bless you 👏🏾👏🏾

  11. 11.

    rikyrah

    April 29, 2025 at 9:03 am

    @Jeffro:

    They have no credibility. They are ridiculous 😡

    They don’t know how to explain ethics

  12. 12.

    Splitting Image

    April 29, 2025 at 9:03 am

    It’s unclear yet whether Carney’s Liberals won a majority in Parliament, but great job, everybody!

    At this point a minority is pretty much locked in. The Liberals have 168 seats, and there are about 15 or so seats not officially called. Of these, only four of them have the Liberals running second, and only one of them is close enough for the Liberal to overtake the leader. (It’s a Quebec riding where the Bloc candidate is leading by about 20 votes.) So 168 or 169 is pretty much the result.

    The NDP has 7 seats though, so the Liberals can govern with NDP support, like they have been doing for the past few years. The Bloc don’t have enough votes to throw in with the Conservatives and probably wouldn’t anyway.

    So the good guys won. A much better result than anyone would have predicted a few months ago.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    April 29, 2025 at 9:05 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 9:06 am

    @Splitting Image: Good to know — thank you!

  15. 15.

    jonas

    April 29, 2025 at 9:08 am

    The second is a Pew poll piece that shows white evangelical support for trump holding up at an astounding 72% approval rating…and 69% rate the ethics of trump admin officials as excellent or good

    “72% of Peoples Temple Members Rate Grape Drink ‘Excellent’, Wish There Was More of It”

    Also: “New Study: Majority of Evangelicals Have No Idea What Jesus Taught, Are Probably Going to Hell”

  16. 16.

    Jackie

    April 29, 2025 at 9:09 am

    I hate FFOTUS’ guts for many, many, many reasons, but this is close to #1: Making me cheer for China :-C

    President Xi Jinping’s diplomats are fanning out across the world with a clear message for countries cutting deals with Donald Trump: The U.S. is a bully that can’t be trusted,” Bloomberg reports.

    “Chinese officials are racing to turn foreign governments against the U.S. inside a 90-day window Trump has granted all nations — except China — to strike trade deals during a tariff reprieve. Once those pacts are in place, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has said he wants US allies to ‘approach China as a group,’ giving his side more leverage in negotiations.”

  17. 17.

    Melancholy Jaques

    April 29, 2025 at 9:12 am

    No Democrat should be appearing with Trump for any reason at all. It means whatever the fight of that moment is, Democrats lost. And it makes every other fight harder to win.

  18. 18.

    stinger

    April 29, 2025 at 9:13 am

    I thought we liked Big Gretch. The guy is president, after all, and she’s surely trying to benefit her state. I can’t turn on a dime, throw the baby out with the bathwater, etc., and it seems to me that a lot of politicians have to do things they may not much want to do. If I lived in Michigan I might have a more informed opinion.

  19. 19.

    Hildebrand

    April 29, 2025 at 9:15 am

    @Betty Cracker: Whitmer keeps doing this and she won’t even be in the VP conversation in 28:

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 9:15 am

    @Jackie: Since Bessent “wants US allies to ‘approach China as a group,’ giving his side more leverage in negotiations,” I’m just marveling at the genius opening salvo of this foolishness, which was to slap tariffs on the whole fucking world (except Russia), including penguins. I mean, what better way to assemble a team and make sure they have your back before you confront China?

  21. 21.

    MrPug

    April 29, 2025 at 9:16 am

    @Jackie: Dang it. I too have other obligations.  I have to shave my hair with a cheese grater while chewing on tin foil (that is a line from Cheers episode that I have never forgotten: tvquot.es/cheers/quote/4epopzph/).

  22. 22.

    sixthdoctor

    April 29, 2025 at 9:17 am

    Jeff, Donny, break it up or we’ll have to send you both to your rooms for a time out!

    White House says Amazon’s decision to desplay tariff-based price increases on products is a “a hostile and political act by Amazon,” who they accuse of working with “a Chinese propaganda arm.”
    [image or embed]

    — Nikki McCann Ramírez (@nikkimcr.bsky.social) April 29, 2025 at 9:01 AM

  23. 23.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 29, 2025 at 9:17 am

    @Jeffro: Those are the dumbest and most bigoted people in America. I grew up around them and I know whereof I speak. MAGA is never going to lose them.

  24. 24.

    MrPug

    April 29, 2025 at 9:19 am

    @Jeffro: ​
      I dunno, but those numbers seem very soft for Trump among that demographic.

  25. 25.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 29, 2025 at 9:20 am

    @Splitting Image: There were times during the night when it seemed like Liberal + NDP was in danger of not being a majority and they might have to deal with the BQ. But it held.

  26. 26.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 29, 2025 at 9:23 am

    @Suzanne: A lot of Trump voters still think the tariffs are going to benefit US industry–you just wait, the Golden Age will happen–and will have to see it tank to believe otherwise.

    The next shoe to drop that I’m watching for is that at some point, Trump is going to announce that he’s zeroing out the federal income tax, because the tariffs are making it unnecessary. (Never mind whether that’s in any way legal, it’s not going to matter.) There’s going to be some desperate flurry of renewed elite support for him because of that, dopes like Bill Ackman touting it as a genius chess move they didn’t see coming. What I’m wondering is whether it sticks for any length of time.

  27. 27.

    Belafon

    April 29, 2025 at 9:24 am

    @Suzanne: As a non-Michigander, I favored tariffs on Chinese EV imports for a short time to give our companies a chance to produce a car that could compete. But that required specific tariffs on specific things (cars) for a short period to achieve a realistic goal. His are going after more than cars since they totally ignore how cars are built.

  28. 28.

    Parfigliano

    April 29, 2025 at 9:25 am

    @Jeffro: The only people worse (barely) then MAGA white evangelicals are leading Russia.

  29. 29.

    Jeffro

    April 29, 2025 at 9:26 am

    @MrPug: right?

    and we’re only 3 months in

  30. 30.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    April 29, 2025 at 9:27 am

    @Jeffro:

    The first is the Times’ piece on trump’s eye-popping corruption when it comes to crypto.  You could not find or make up a clearer case of a president straight-up using his office to line his pockets (and secretly, too) (and from the world’s worst actors, too).  The piece even notes Carter’s peanut farm, Bush Sr’s blind trust, etc.  The corruption is so over-the-top that even our blessed snooze media is waking up and finding it newsworthy, which really is incredible.

    And yet, nothing will get done about it because the other branch of gubmint that could do something about it is thoroughly captured.

  31. 31.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 29, 2025 at 9:29 am

    @Belafon: I don’t think tariffs are necessarily bad in all cases. They’re something you have to deploy rationally and carefully, though, with thorough consideration of all their positive and negative effects, and you can’t structure them so as to kill the industries you’re trying to promote. What Trump has done here is the tariff equivalent of a nuclear first strike.

  32. 32.

    pajaro

    April 29, 2025 at 9:33 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    This is the second time in the last few weeks that Whitmer has chosen to appear with Trump.  I have no idea what she’s up to, but she is behaving completely differently than, for example, Pritzker, who is going around the country speaking against Trump.

  33. 33.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 9:33 am

    @stinger: I do like Whitmer and am not writing her off. The crisis of having a buffoonish psycho in the White House and right-wing kleptocrats running the government is a huge test for Dems. Some are stepping up, others not so much yet, but I think there’s still time. IMO, things will only get worse in the foreseeable future, and since we still have the tattered remnants of a democracy, everything hinges on public opinion. They’re all following that, except maybe Trump, who lives in a bubble constructed of propaganda and untreated personality disorders.

  34. 34.

    Jackie

    April 29, 2025 at 9:33 am

    @sixthdoctor: Bezos is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. I do applaud his decision to display tariffs price increases, though, and hope other retailers follow suit – including grocery stores. FFOTUS doesn’t handle passive aggressiveness well, at all.

  35. 35.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    April 29, 2025 at 9:34 am

    @Belafon:

    One of the things Big Gretch has been saying on this refers to Biden’s “surgical” approach to tariffs (which the Chinese EV one is Example #1) as being the smart way to do it and not Hair Furor’s big-fat-club approach.  Good piece from earlier in the month:

    nbcnews.com/politics/elections/disaster-gretchen-whitmers-talk-tariffs-meeting-trump-anger-fellow-de…

    But, it’s clear a lot of Dems, not just us, think the political optics of what she’s doing leaves a lot to be desired.  From the piece:

    “Just a f—ing disaster,” said a Democratic operative who admires Whitmer and, like others interviewed for this article, was granted anonymity to share candid thoughts about her day. “It feels like it removes some of the momentum she had as a politically savvy swing-state Dem.”

  36. 36.

    Harrison Wesley

    April 29, 2025 at 9:34 am

    @Suzanne: I don’t see what she gets out of this appearance.  He’s almost certainly going to get up there and spout lies about non-existent “deals”.

  37. 37.

    frosty

    April 29, 2025 at 9:35 am

    Those grievances are eerily prescient. Wait, what? They’re from 1776? We’ve come full circle, dammit!

  38. 38.

    UncleEbeneezer

    April 29, 2025 at 9:35 am

    @stinger: Seems like just yesterday people were constantly speculating that maybe Whitmer (and Newsom) would be better than Kamala /eyeroll…

  39. 39.

    Jeffro

    April 29, 2025 at 9:36 am

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: nothing will get done…yet…

    all we can do is keep pointing out both the unbelievable corruption by trump & Co and the stunning abdication of responsibility by the MAGA GOP majorities in the House and Senate

    It should matter as the months wear on.  It should matter in Nov 2026 and Nov 2028.  Keep pounding!

  40. 40.

    BlueGuitarist

    April 29, 2025 at 9:36 am

    New protest demonstrations have been added for Thursday May 1

    day and evening, and Saturday afternoon May 3.
    there’s a new  one closer to me than the April 5 handsoff and April 19 no kings protests.
    Will work on making a better sign.

  41. 41.

    Jackie

    April 29, 2025 at 9:37 am

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    And yet, nothing will get done about it because the other branch of gubmint that could do something about it is thoroughly captured lining up with their greedy pockets open in anticipation.

  42. 42.

    bbleh

    April 29, 2025 at 9:37 am

    @Lapassionara: @terraformer: at the Philly “no kings” rally there was a clot of people with signs in like colonial-era-style calligraphy with exactly those phrases on them.  Very effective.

  43. 43.

    sab

    April 29, 2025 at 9:37 am

    @Matt McIrvin: I have my doubts whether this is fixable. My late ex-father-in-law, a tough negotiator in business, used to say “Trust is like the soul. Once it is gone it doesn’t come back.”

    Mexico never trusted us, sensibly. Nor did the Chinese. Canadians did. Europeans did. Everyone around the world now knows we are always one nutjob away from chaos, and Congress does not care.

  44. 44.

    Eolirin

    April 29, 2025 at 9:39 am

    @Suzanne: They’re not going to favor the tariffs when they start seeing goods shortages and the cost increases to cars starts bankrupting the car companies, even if they do now.

  45. 45.

    Jeffro

    April 29, 2025 at 9:41 am

    I’m glad that some Dem candidates are likely taking themselves out of the running for 2028 with these completely unforced errors.  Dem primary voters are NOT going to rally behind folks whose priorities in these dark times included going on RWNJ podcasts and doing joint smiley-face appearances with trump.

    It strikes me as something akin to Dems’ stances on the Iraq War, heading into the 2008 election.

  46. 46.

    BlueGuitarist

    April 29, 2025 at 9:41 am

    @bbleh:

    interesting! Thanks.

  47. 47.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    April 29, 2025 at 9:43 am

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    *Some* people like Governor Goodhair II, certainly not all (raises hand like Horshack).

    @Jeffro:

    Agreed.  It’s the kind of thing that could/should play well in the midterms.  With lighter turnout and the Orange Fart Cloud not on the ballot, my hope is a repeat of 2018.

  48. 48.

    Melancholy Jaques

    April 29, 2025 at 9:45 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    A lot of Trump voters still think the tariffs are going to benefit US industry

    They say that because they repeat whatever they’re told to repeat & agree with whatever that asshole is doing.

    A very large number of people who are not Trump supporters also believe tariffs are going to benefit US industry because they don’t understand how trade works.

  49. 49.

    Harrison Wesley

    April 29, 2025 at 9:46 am

    @BlueGuitarist: I’m heading to one on Thursday, my first since the Iraq invasion. Since it’s a weekday I figure attendees will be college kids and us Olds.

  50. 50.

    sab

    April 29, 2025 at 9:46 am

    @Betty Cracker: Even your rants, which I agree with, make me laugh: ‘against the whole world, even penguins…’

  51. 51.

    Eolirin

    April 29, 2025 at 9:46 am

    @Melancholy Jaques: This is one of our core problems, too few people know how anything works. And social media exploits that

  52. 52.

    Melancholy Jaques

    April 29, 2025 at 9:47 am

    @Jeffro:

    It strikes me as something akin to Dems’ stances on the Iraq War, heading into the 2008 election.

    Which was a dramatic reversal from 2004, when Democratic primary voters demanded someone who supported the Iraq invasion.

  53. 53.

    Belafon

    April 29, 2025 at 9:47 am

    @Jackie: Bezos no longer runs Amazon. So this, to me, is similar to Microsoft providing development support for Linux after Gates stepped down.

  54. 54.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    April 29, 2025 at 9:49 am

    The Guardian
    Carmakers would be able to secure a partial reimbursement for tariffs on imported auto parts, based on the value of their US car production, under the plans.
    Cars made outside the US will still be subject to Trump’s tariffs but will be exempt from other levies. The plan is expected to be officially confirmed later on Tuesday.

    Sound like those “Countries” Trump is negotiating with are really US companies.

  55. 55.

    Belafon

    April 29, 2025 at 9:50 am

    Pritzker does have it a bit easier. His state doesn’t have nearly the dependency on one industry that Michigan does. How will he act when a climate change induced massive tornado outbreak upends much of his state?

    I still remember red-state governors having to meet with Obama and Biden when their states were in need of help.

  56. 56.

    StringOnAStick

    April 29, 2025 at 9:52 am

    Yesterday I managed to buy the last in a 400 mile radius of a certain entry model Taylor guitar; since the lower end models are made in Mexico, the stock in stores is utterly depleted.  I wanted to play it first, or else I could have ordered directly from Taylor,  but I never buy an instrument unless I can play it first after a couple of less than optimal experiences years ago.  I had to drive to Eugene to do it, while on my way to Portland*.

     

    *I’m helping a friend move her grad school daughter to a new apartment, or I’m here to dance in the smoldering ruins of the city and to sacrifice said daughter to the DEI gods, whichever you find more plausible.  Plus: excellent Ethiopian food last night!

  57. 57.

    Splitting Image

    April 29, 2025 at 9:53 am

    @sab:

    Even your rants, which I agree with, make me laugh: ‘against the whole world, even penguins…’

    I suspect that Donald Trump has had it in for penguins ever since the creator of Bloom County put his brain in Bill the Cat’s body and ended the strip with Opus pasting him in the face with a lemon meringue pie.

  58. 58.

    Princess

    April 29, 2025 at 9:53 am

    @Suzanne: I agree with you, Suzanne. I think tariffs will be really bad for Michigan and Whitmer made a big mistake.

  59. 59.

    sab

    April 29, 2025 at 9:53 am

    @Eolirin: We are already having shortages. I cannot get my P&G brand of toilet paper, or Milkbone dog biscuits, or my cats’ favorite cat food.

  60. 60.

    Melancholy Jaques

    April 29, 2025 at 9:53 am

    @Belafon:

    I still remember red-state governors having to meet with Obama and Biden when their states were in need of help.

    It destroyed Chris Christie’s political career.

  61. 61.

    sab

    April 29, 2025 at 9:55 am

    @Splitting Image: I do believe Trump strategizes at that level of deal-making sophistication.

  62. 62.

    twbrandt

    April 29, 2025 at 9:55 am

    @Hildebrand @Betty Cracker: Michigander here.

    My sense is that Whitmer is cooked among Michigan Dems. People more vocal in their opposition to Trump are making a lot of noise, like Mallory McMorrow, who is running for Sen. Gary Peters’ seat now that he’s retiring.

    As for tariffs, the UAW came out in favor of them, but rather inexplicably to me didn’t take into account the damage they will do auto production and their members’ jobs. Farmers and other small businesses are getting screwed and are not happy.

  63. 63.

    Harrison Wesley

    April 29, 2025 at 9:56 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Sounds like a Cunning Plan.

  64. 64.

    Melancholy Jaques

    April 29, 2025 at 9:56 am

    @StringOnAStick:

    Congrats on the Taylor. My 410 has been one of the best I’ve ever owned. And completely agree with having to play it before purchase, especially with an acoustic.

  65. 65.

    Princess

    April 29, 2025 at 9:57 am

    @Betty Cracker: I don’t what drugs Bessent has access to but he should lay off them. Canada has incredibly bad relations with China, like, they jail our citizens bad, and would certainly have stood with the US. But not now. I think most Canadians would say they trust China more than the US right now, which does not mean they actually trust China — it’s a sign of how bad things are with the US, and the fact that China is stable and the devil you know.

  66. 66.

    Harrison Wesley

    April 29, 2025 at 9:59 am

    @Belafon: But those guys actually delivered aid. Swino just turned down Arkansas, which wasn’t a blue state last time I looked.

  67. 67.

    jonas

    April 29, 2025 at 10:00 am

    @Hildebrand: I think she wants it to look as if she’s at least *trying* to intercede with Trump to somehow minimize the fallout of his policies for Michigan — which are going to be devastating — but it’s hard not to do that without also looking like you’re bending the knee. So I sort of feel bad for her while also acknowledging that it’s very much not a good look to be continually making appearances with Trump in hopes that he won’t be as much of an asshole. Lose-lose, IMHO.

  68. 68.

    tam1MI

    April 29, 2025 at 10:00 am

    @MrPug:  I dunno, but those numbers seem very soft for Trump among that demographic.

    I’m so old I remember just last July when I was lectured that an 85% rating for President Joe Biden was supposed to be catastrophically low.

  69. 69.

    Jackie

    April 29, 2025 at 10:01 am

    @Belafon: Bezos still owns Amazon, so he’ll get the credit – or, in FFOTUS’s case – the blame for being disloyal. The WH is actively attacking Bezos as I type.

    I only hope Bezos doesn’t chicken out again, as he did with the WaPo.

  70. 70.

    StringOnAStick

    April 29, 2025 at 10:01 am

    I keep telling my husband that there’s about to be shortages that will make Covid look easy; his normie response is to buy an extra 24 pack of TP.  Sigh.  Though his reactions give me a useful gauge of what normies are thinking, and even though he pays more attention to politics than he used to, he has not put the pieces together yet about how messy this is shaping up to be.

    I figured that anything we had planned on purchasing had to be done before April ended, especially if it’s imported (like most things seem to be).  Bought a condenser microphone that better suits my low voice last week, guitar yesterday; now I can happily play music through the coming retail apocalypse.  The veggie garden is off to an excellent start, so at least there will be food in a few more weeks!

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    April 29, 2025 at 10:03 am

    @

    So the more they increase the price of their vehicles the less they have to pay for parts?

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    April 29, 2025 at 10:06 am

    #71 meant to be @Enhanced Voting Techniques.

  73. 73.

    Captain C

    April 29, 2025 at 10:08 am

    @sixthdoctor: So people who Donnie screws are now supposed to cover for him?

  74. 74.

    TS

    April 29, 2025 at 10:09 am

    @Splitting Image: Thanks for all the updates – and explanations

  75. 75.

    Geminid

    April 29, 2025 at 10:09 am

    @pajaro: My understanding is both Whitmer’s White House visit and her appearance with Trump today have to do with that National Guard base they’ll be at. She’s either trying to save it or expand it, not sure which. I’m not saying this is justified, but that is what she’s up to.

  76. 76.

    Harrison Wesley

    April 29, 2025 at 10:09 am

    @StringOnAStick: Definitely control of your food supply will be really important! I think joining a CSA program was one of the few smart things I’ve done in the last few years.

  77. 77.

    StringOnAStick

    April 29, 2025 at 10:09 am

    @Melancholy Jaques: I bought a 210; I’m barely 5’3” and I wanted a smaller body guitar that fits my fairly female shape, if you get my drift.  I’m switching to guitar from ukulele after hitting the wall on the limitations of that instrument, Taylor seemed like my best bet and I love their responsible materials sourcing.

  78. 78.

    Captain C

    April 29, 2025 at 10:10 am

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Is this piece on the front page?  Dominating the front page?  Or is it on page A17 while the front page and editorial page tout FFOTUS’ naughty brilliance in all caps?

  79. 79.

    StringOnAStick

    April 29, 2025 at 10:12 am

    @Harrison Wesley: i wonder if the CSA farmers are going to have to emergency price increases because of input costs?  We need to keep those folks in business!

  80. 80.

    jonas

    April 29, 2025 at 10:16 am

    @Jackie:  Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has said he wants US allies to ‘approach China as a group,’ giving his side more leverage in negotiations

    God, what a fucking tool. Like we’re going to have allies after this is all over.

  81. 81.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    April 29, 2025 at 10:16 am

    I can’t be the only one who remembers when NPR was tweeting out the Declaration a few lines at a time on some July 4 during the First Trump Reich, that MAGAs were going absolutely ballistic during the grievances section, not recognizing the source and thinking it was just a screed directed at their god emperor.​

    For example

  82. 82.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 10:16 am

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: I keep getting the feeling that there are a lot of people for whom the performance is most important.

    See, for example, the accolades accorded to AOC and Bernie for their rallies by the “DO SOMETHING” chorus.

  83. 83.

    NotMax

    April 29, 2025 at 10:17 am

    @StringOnAStick

    Did someone mention ukulele?
    ;)

  84. 84.

    Harrison Wesley

    April 29, 2025 at 10:17 am

    @StringOnAStick: That’s important. I’ll text the lady who runs mine. Haven’t heard anything as of yet. And, yes, I’d pay more to help local farmers stay in business

  85. 85.

    RaflW

    April 29, 2025 at 10:17 am

    I saw last night that Poilievre was in danger of losing his seat, I find it absolutely delicious to wake up this morning to confirmation that Trump screwed him so badly that he not only failed in his P.M. bid but got the shove entirely. The US Republican Party will completely misread/ignore this result and continue the beatings until morale improves.

    Speaking of which, “White House says Amazon’s decision to display tariff-based price increases on products is a ‘a hostile and political act by Amazon,’ who they accuse of working with ‘a Chinese propaganda arm.’ So, yeah, Trumpublicans are coping really well.

  86. 86.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 10:17 am

    @StringOnAStick: Good for you for mastering the uke and moving on to the guitar! I still play my uke, very badly.  ;-)

  87. 87.

    Suzanne

    April 29, 2025 at 10:23 am

    @Belafon:

    As a non-Michigander, I favored tariffs on Chinese EV imports for a short time to give our companies a chance to produce a car that could compete. But that required specific tariffs on specific things (cars) for a short period to achieve a realistic goal. His are going after more than cars since they totally ignore how cars are built.

    Agree.
    This is not the time to discuss nuance, though. We need to be letting FFOTUS own this disaster in its entirety.

  88. 88.

    Harrison Wesley

    April 29, 2025 at 10:24 am

    @Betty Cracker: I remember when I quit playing bass after I had become a full fledged alcoholic. A friend tried to look on the bright side: “So now you play the bottle. Much easier! It’s only got one hole.”

  89. 89.

    RaflW

    April 29, 2025 at 10:24 am

    Also, the American consumer is not as dumb as Trump thinks.

    @carlquintanilla.bsky.social‬

    WASHINGTON (AP) – US Consumer confidence slides for the 5th straight month to levels not seen since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.

  90. 90.

    TS

    April 29, 2025 at 10:26 am

    @Harrison Wesley:

     Swino just turned down Arkansas, which wasn’t a blue state last time I looked.

    The PM of Canada in his victory speech emphasised that he was the PM for ALL of Canada whether they voted for the Liberals or not. As Did Obama & Biden in regard to the US. Seems only the RW bigots pick their sides – although trump seems to govern for no-one except trump/

  91. 91.

    brendancalling

    April 29, 2025 at 10:26 am

    @Betty Cracker: I’m old enough to remember when people were saying she could run for President.

    Guess those heady days are over now.

  92. 92.

    Librettist

    April 29, 2025 at 10:26 am

    @Geminid:

    Not every politician’s career goal is 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. She has been pretty consistent in knocking that down.

  93. 93.

    RaflW

    April 29, 2025 at 10:27 am

    @jonas: The hilarious thing (in terms of beclowning Bessent, who I know knows better, but he has to eat shit daily now that he’s in this deep): The rest of the world will approach China as a group. Just one that is missing a single, idiotic member. Us. And they’ll get great deals from China, because they do need customers for all the productivity, and there are willing buyers everywhere.

    I said it before Trump even won the election, but I’m being proven right faster than I expected: Voting Trump is voting for China as the world hegemon for the 21st centrury.

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    April 29, 2025 at 10:30 am

    Morning (first world) rant.

    Grr. Don’t know if it’s a universal change but now when I fire up Prime video on the Roku the “Continue Watching” row has migrated from right below the big ass promo up top to 4 (or more) rows further down.

  95. 95.

    schrodingers_cat

    April 29, 2025 at 10:34 am

    @sab: Indeed our word was golden now it is tacky fake gold foil like the orange God of Rs.

  96. 96.

    NotMax

    April 29, 2025 at 10:38 am

    Did Donny Dolto or his wife or staff pay whatever the tariff is on any Italian goods they brought back on Air Force One?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  97. 97.

    Geminid

    April 29, 2025 at 10:42 am

    @Librettist: Even if Whitmer wants to run for President, what looms large today could be forgotten two years from now, when the 2028 primary race starts shaping up. There will be a lot of water under the bridge by late April, 2027. And not that many Democrats will even hear about Whitmer’s appearance today, much less remember it a couple years from now.

  98. 98.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 10:43 am

    Holy shit, we have a real tornado warning, not that radar indicated crap.  I don’t think we’re in the path, but it’s too close for comfort.  They said 100 MPH winds. Just got internet on my desktop back.

  99. 99.

    Eolirin

    April 29, 2025 at 10:44 am

    @RaflW: If the EU gets its act together and beats back Russia, they’ll present as an alternative to China. I don’t think China can pull off a proper US style hegemony if that happens. They’ll be a major player regardless.

  100. 100.

    PPCLI

    April 29, 2025 at 10:45 am

    @jonas: approach China as a group? You mean like a big block of US + allies would have done in the Trans Pacific Partnership? Great idea. But somehow it got wrecked. I wonder how?

  101. 101.

    Jeffro

    April 29, 2025 at 10:46 am

    Bezos v trumpov: rooting for injuries doesn’t BEGIN to describe it…

  102. 102.

    eclare

    April 29, 2025 at 10:46 am

    @jonas:

    If FFOTUS wore sunglasses, he would be an exact replica of Jim Jones.  The recent doc by Nat Geo and Hulu is chilling, there are so many similarities.

  103. 103.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 10:48 am

    @Soprano2: Yikes, stay safe!

  104. 104.

    Citizen Alan

    April 29, 2025 at 10:54 am

    @stinger:  I’m 55, and I feel like I’ve been living in “interesting times” for most of my adult life.

  105. 105.

    tam1MI

    April 29, 2025 at 10:55 am

    @brendancalling: I’m old enough to remember when people were saying she could run for President.

    That was before we were forcefully reminded that the Presidency is a job for which only White Straight Christian Males need apply.

  106. 106.

    Jackie

    April 29, 2025 at 10:55 am

    Bezos cracked. Sure didn’t take long:

    An Amazon spokesperson said the e-commerce giant was never considering adding import fees on all purchases to show the cost of President Trump’s new tariffs, dismissing a news report that prompted an attack from the White House, the Washington Post reports.

    “The team that runs our ultra-low-cost Amazon Haul store has considered listing import charges on certain products,” the spokesperson said. “This was never a consideration for the main Amazon site and nothing has been implemented on any Amazon properties.”

  107. 107.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 10:57 am

    @Jeffro: None of that is part of his presidential duties, so he could be prosecuted for it after he leaves office.

  108. 108.

    ArchTeryx

    April 29, 2025 at 10:57 am

    @Matt McIrvin: It won’t last long if nobody is buying our bonds. Zeroing out the income tax will explode the deficit, and that means they either sell bonds or cut the budget. And there isn’t enough budget to cut unless they go after Defense and not just domestic social programs. It’s going to get UGLY.

  109. 109.

    jonas

    April 29, 2025 at 10:58 am

    @RaflW: Yep — if they get to dictate trade agreements, then they get to dictate a whole lot of other stuff, from technology standards to currency markets.

  110. 110.

    Jacel

    April 29, 2025 at 10:59 am

    I’m surprised that Sand Hill Cranes are still in the US anywhere this late in the Spring, since they’ve headed North from California weeks ago. Is there season in Florida longer? Or have these birds started giving up on migration, like many Canada Geese?

  111. 111.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 11:00 am

    @RaflW: For myself, at the end of the day, this is what I will forever hate these stupid sonsabitches for: ensuring that the 21st century will belong to China.

    Short sighted hateful 🤬🤬.

  112. 112.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 11:02 am

    @Soprano2: STAY SAFE OUT THERE!

    Tornado weather ain’t nothin’ to play with.

    (though I have to confess, dumb MF that I am, I’ve literally missed the warning and was listening to music when a tornado passed a few blocks away… another example of what a LUCKY MF I actually am.)

  113. 113.

    pajaro

    April 29, 2025 at 11:03 am

    @Geminid:

    Thank you for the explanation.

  114. 114.

    artem1s

    April 29, 2025 at 11:03 am

    The Declaration only mentions tax one time.

    Most of the complaints in the articles address lack of governance or interference with the colonists who created ways to self govern so they could address the lack of governance. What the founders and the colonists wanted was GOVERNMENT. They didn’t care about taxes as much as they cared about the British interfering with commerce. And the threat of starving to death just so the British could steal all our goods and resources to fund their ongoing religious war with Spain. They wanted to be free of the ongoing chaos and civil strife created by monarchies, popes, and autocrats vying for power.The most natural places to form ‘shadow’ cabinets would be the states forming Third Continental Congress/es to address the lack of governance from the GOP House of Representatives. Of course it would be nice to have CA leading the way on this but looks like we’ll have to mount a recall to get him to focus on the Constitutional Crisis we’re having. Governor Harris anyone?​

  115. 115.

    jonas

    April 29, 2025 at 11:04 am

    @Matt McIrvin: The stupid, it burns. The income tax amendment was passed in the first place because everyone realized making the federal government dependent solely on tariffs and excise taxes wasn’t working. I recall when Al Gore floated the idea of a progressive carbon tax as a partial replacement for payroll taxes and everyone called him nuts and the carbon tax was DOA. But massive consumer product taxes so billionaires can have tax cuts? Full steam ahead!!

  116. 116.

    Josie

    April 29, 2025 at 11:04 am

    I just had to share with you the good news (//) that I received in an announcement email from Social Security this morning:

    The Social Security Administration (SSA) today announced its progress implementing President Trump’s bold agenda to improve services to the public while safeguarding taxpayer dollars. Working with the Department of Government Efficiency, SSA has charted a new course for the agency that prioritizes enhancing customer service, reducing waste, fraud, and abuse, and optimizing its workforce towards direct public service.

    I know that you are all excited by the good news and will rush out immediately to share the glad tidings.​
     
    ETA: Meanwhile I am counting the days until the 9th to see if I get my promised deposit in the bank.

  117. 117.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 11:09 am

    @Jacel: AFAIK, we’ve always had a resident population of Sandhills in Florida. They are joined by northern birds in the winter.

  118. 118.

    karen gail

    April 29, 2025 at 11:10 am

    @Citizen Alan: I’ve got 20 years on you and feel the same way; only it started when principle announced, “The President has been shot in Dallas.”

  119. 119.

    prostratedragon

    April 29, 2025 at 11:11 am

    @Professor Bigfoot:   Amen! Accomodating to new realities
    =/= abandoning all opportunities and obligations.

  120. 120.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 11:12 am

    @Professor Bigfoot: It’s passed by, now we’ll see what and where the damage is.

  121. 121.

    ArchTeryx

    April 29, 2025 at 11:15 am

    @Professor Bigfoot: Get an inexpensive weather radio. It will sound loud alert tones when a warning is broadcast. Also, be especially alert for a “Tornado Emergency.” That’s when a large, destructive tornado is confirmed on the ground and headed directly toward a populated area. If you hear a Tornado Emergency GET TO SHELTER IMMEDIATELY!!

    Also “radar indicated” tornadoes are still potential tornadoes. Some will drop. some won’t. “Radar indicated” means that the ingredients for tornadoes are all assembled in a particular storm and it could drop one, without warning, at any time, anywhere in the warned area. Please, take all tornado warnings seriously

    Someone far better than I compared tornado alerts to Taco Tuesday:

    Tornado Watch: All the ingredients for tacos are in the area but none have appeared yet.
    Tornado Warning: All the ingredients for tacos are in one place, or tacos have started appearing.

    Tornado Emergency: WE’RE HAVING TACOS RIGHT NOW!

  122. 122.

    Nettoyeur

    April 29, 2025 at 11:16 am

    @Matt McIrvin: 

    I don’t think the numbers allow tariffs to displace the income tax.

    But if Trump and the  GOP put it in place for a time (it won’t last), we will probably empty the 401K (tax free) and move to Australia (we are dual citizens).

  123. 123.

    prostratedragon

    April 29, 2025 at 11:19 am

    A “white collar psychopath” has graciously volunteered to have his portrait displayed to the public.

  124. 124.

    topclimber

    April 29, 2025 at 11:19 am

    @Geminid: OT but maybe you want to add Josh Riley to your look at how our new Dem reps are faring, referenced a few postings back.

    I like Riley’s Al Franken staff connection, and his do-gooder legal work. Looks like he’s got long, legit ties to the district as well. Hopefully his funding isn’t from the crypto crowd.

  125. 125.

    pajaro

    April 29, 2025 at 11:20 am

    @tam1MI:

    Apparently, Democratic voters and candidates have been slow to get the memo that only White Male Straight Christians need apply to be President, as they (and we) have only nominated one person for President who fits that bill in the last five Presidential elections.

  126. 126.

    karen gail

    April 29, 2025 at 11:21 am

    @Professor Bigfoot: I woke in middle of night to house shaking; was so befuddled I forgot that I no longer lived in CA and heading to doorway or outside was not best option. By the time I fully woke I had no idea what had happened, later that day had news on and showed tornado formation and path; seems it formed right over my house and didn’t touch down until about a mile away in marsh.
    Across the road neighbor slept through the whole thing; he discovered his dogs had panicked and no idea why until he got to work.

  127. 127.

    NotMax

    April 29, 2025 at 11:21 am

    @Citizen Alan

    The times? Cue Arte Johnson.
    //

  128. 128.

    Eural Joiner

    April 29, 2025 at 11:21 am

    Finance question I’m throwing out there for any knowledgeable people to respond to: my wife and I both have 403(b) accounts we’re supposed to draw on once we turn 59.5. However, there is a provision for liquidating the account for its cash value? Does that mean you just get the total payout (and then have to pay taxes as its income?)…we’re facing a sudden deluge of family illness and financial crisis just as my wife is about to retire this summer. Thinking liquidating her account to keep everyone afloat and then draw on mine in three years. Does that make sense?

  129. 129.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 29, 2025 at 11:25 am

    @Nettoyeur: Trump has repeatedly said that he thinks it will, and that moving from tariffs to income tax as the means of funding the government was a mistake.

    To be clear, he hasn’t yet said explicitly that he’s going to do this. But it’s a thing he keeps musing out loud about, so I think he will try to pull that lever. Numbers do not matter, law does not matter, logic does not matter. And income taxes are such an automatic bugbear to Republicans that I think a lot of the normie Republicans who are turning against him will be awed by it, for a short time.

  130. 130.

    prostratedragon

    April 29, 2025 at 11:27 am

    A keeper

  131. 131.

    oldgold

    April 29, 2025 at 11:29 am

    @brendancalling: I think the photo of Whitmer hiding her face behind a folder in the Oval Office put an end to her presidential ambitions.

    It might be worse than Dukakis’ infamous tank photo.

    reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1jya4dc/gretchen_whitmer_hides_her_face_after_being/?rdt=39746

  132. 132.

    Suzanne

    April 29, 2025 at 11:37 am

    @oldgold: I thought it was a 3-ring binder, but still….. not a good look.

    I’ve been impressed with her otherwise, though, so maybe just a misstep. Plenty of time to see how things go.

  133. 133.

    zhena gogolia

    April 29, 2025 at 11:39 am

    @Nettoyeur: Well goody for you

  134. 134.

    tam1MI

    April 29, 2025 at 11:42 am

    @pajaro: Apparently, Democratic voters and candidates have been slow to get the memo that only White Male Straight Christians need apply to be President, as they (and we) have only nominated one person for President who fits that bill in the last five Presidential elections.

    And that one person was the only Democrat to have beaten Donald Trump.

  135. 135.

    cain

    April 29, 2025 at 11:43 am

    @Jeffro:

    They are holding on to the hope that Trump is going to turn this country completely white christian male. He has been making those moves. So they love him for that.

    I’m sure he has a slew of EOs ready that puts Christianity first.

  136. 136.

    hoytwillrise

    April 29, 2025 at 11:43 am

  137. 137.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 11:44 am

    @ArchTeryx: Oh, I’ve fixed that deficiency now- this was a few years ago— but that time I never considered heading for the basement- heck, my patio doors were open and all I ever perceived was a little breeze.

    Until the next day when I went out and saw blue tarps on roofs. 😳

  138. 138.

    hoytwillrise

    April 29, 2025 at 11:45 am

  139. 139.

    NotMax

    April 29, 2025 at 11:46 am

    @Suzanne

    Binders full of women?
    //

  140. 140.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 11:49 am

    @oldgold: LOL, I hadn’t seen that. Definitely not a good look, but I wonder if “Dukakis in a tank” moments are even still a thing now that the media is so fragmented. Anyhoo, I think Whitmer has plenty of time to make a better post-election impression if she has ambitions for higher office.

    Gotta confess I don’t know why any half-way decent person wants to be POTUS, in the same way I don’t understand why any rich person keeps chasing money. I lack those genes, apparently.

  141. 141.

    Central Planning

    April 29, 2025 at 11:50 am

    We’re not a democracy.

    We’re a (banana) republic.

  142. 142.

    cain

    April 29, 2025 at 11:50 am

    @Eolirin: There won’t be any bailout for the car companies this time if they get into that position of bankruptcy.

  143. 143.

    cain

    April 29, 2025 at 11:51 am

    @Eolirin: Throw in AI programming and new coders won’t know how a computer works!

  144. 144.

    scribbler

    April 29, 2025 at 11:51 am

    @Jacel: In Wisconsin, we have sandhills that spend every summer here, then travel to either Florida or Texas for winter.

  145. 145.

    Suzanne

    April 29, 2025 at 11:51 am

    @NotMax: Maybe she’s gonna throw the binder at an intern?
    Or was that a stapler?

    So many political careers derailed by office supplies.

  146. 146.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 11:51 am

    @Suzanne: Democrats are not allowed to make mistakes.

  147. 147.

    cain

    April 29, 2025 at 11:54 am

    @Princess: Also now Canada has leverage against China for exactly those reasons.

  148. 148.

    StringOnAStick

    April 29, 2025 at 11:54 am

    @Betty Cracker: I have been exclusively doing second and third position chords, backing my husband as his rhythm section for gypsy jazz, but I just can’t get enough of the chord voicings I need with just 4 strings, and that style was built out of guitar, not uke!  We are doing a lot of jazz and alt pop/folk plus jazz standards with me on vocals, and I learned a ton from the ukulele that will serve me well on guitar; I’ll likely always play both, but it was time and the tariff BS pushed me to jump now.  Plus at my age, if not now, then when?

  149. 149.

    cain

    April 29, 2025 at 11:56 am

    @jonas:

    She needs to understand that anything Trump touches dies. She must have some shitty advisors.

  150. 150.

    lou

    April 29, 2025 at 11:58 am

    I’ve been thinking a lot about how tariffs killed Argentina, for some reason…

  151. 151.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 11:59 am

    @Matt McIrvin: Rachel Maddow was saying on her show last night that she’s expecting some “wild pitches” from Trump because he knows the people are against him. Authoritarians can’t afford to let that happen before they’ve fully consolidated power and permanently suppressed the opposition.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if he tries the tariff gambit you describe. Who knows what else. I keep coming back to the Birdcage line: “It’s like riding a psychotic horse toward a burning barn.”

  152. 152.

    oldgold

    April 29, 2025 at 12:00 pm

    @Jackie:

    “I only hope Bezos doesn’t chicken out again, as he did with the WaPo.”

    He already has!

    “Amazon said Tuesday it considered displaying import charges on items sold via its site for ultra-discount items, but that the plan “was never approved and not going to happen.””

  153. 153.

    Socolofi

    April 29, 2025 at 12:03 pm

    Ah, waking up to the confirmation that Poilievre lost his own riding is just a chef’s kiss on last night.

    What I suspect 99% of you missed unless you watched the CBC coverage was Con MP Jamil Jivani (actual friend of JD Vance, f em both) slam Con Premiere Doug Ford – youtu.be/2A6Eji6Wc3E?si=F5-_gv3zpDYDQ1P9

     

    What this all means:

    – Bloc Québécois will be running to help Carney so they have a seat at the table and it isn’t just a coalition of Liberal and NDP.

    – PP has to fight to retain his position as leader, and he still won’t be in parliament. Means he can spend his days lobbying grenades without doing anything (which is arguably what he does best) but he pissed off a lot of Conservatives. I suspect that a lot of knives come out however.

    – Carney has already set the stage that there will be tough times ahead – everyone gets that. Which means he isn’t planning on walking some thin line hoping his party doesn’t hold a vote of no confidence and call an early election.

    – Look at a new emerging G5 or G6 – the G7 minus the US and maybe Italy.

    finally, something that occurs given Bessent’s push vs China… a unified EU, plus Canada, plus Mexico, plus JP, TW, & S Korea – may be smart enough to negotiate a better deal than they had pre-Trump in exchange for help w China. Trump will say whatever deal is done is awesome and he’s awesome and MAGA believes him. Everyone else knows this too, and now they see there are things the admin wants.

    Still not great to be the US though. :(

  154. 154.

    lowtechcyclist

    April 29, 2025 at 12:05 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    What Trump has done here is the tariff equivalent of a nuclear first strike on our own country.

    Fixed.

  155. 155.

    Suzanne

    April 29, 2025 at 12:07 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot:

    Democrats are not allowed to make mistakes.

    Effortless perfection, of course.

  156. 156.

    jonas

    April 29, 2025 at 12:08 pm

    @Eolirin:  And social media exploits that

    Pretty much. Despite the fact that some social media platforms, like YouTube, have given expert creators who actually do explain things really well — I’m thinking of content like Wired’s _____ Support series or Timothy Snyder’s Ukraine lectures — a platform to educate people. Of course most of the time people just use social media to watch sportsball highlights or someone trip and fall face-forward into a cake. Which is why we’re where we’re at. Or worse, fall into an algorithm that just feeds them radical bullshit and woo.

  157. 157.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 29, 2025 at 12:09 pm

    @twbrandt: The UAW has been reflexively protectionist for as long as I can remember–back in the 70s and 80s it manifested in gross and racist ways, and it made me perhaps more suspicious of trade protectionism than I should have been. But they probably figure that to retain their support base they can’t not be for this.

  158. 158.

    lowtechcyclist

    April 29, 2025 at 12:11 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: ​
     

    Seems like just yesterday people were constantly speculating that maybe Whitmer (and Newsom) would be better than Kamala /eyeroll…

    Before Biden dropped out, I was thinking of them as Kamala’s main rivals for 2028. Now I’m thinking Pritzker, or maybe Van Hollen if he throws his hat into the ring.

  159. 159.

    brendancalling

    April 29, 2025 at 12:13 pm

    @StringOnAStick: I pre-purchased my running shoes for later this year, because they go up from $140 to $250.

    At least my senator, John Fetterman, understands that the Port of Philadelphia is one of the busiest in the country, never mind the rail and trucking hubs in our fair city. Fetterman is DEFINITELY on the case, as (checks notes) “bombing Iran” is crucial to mutually beneficial trade agreements.

  160. 160.

    lowtechcyclist

    April 29, 2025 at 12:14 pm

    @BlueGuitarist: ​
     

    New protest demonstrations have been added for Thursday May 1

    day and evening, and Saturday afternoon May 3.

    I hope there’s one for May 8, the 80th anniversary of the last time we defeated the fascists.

  161. 161.

    stinger

    April 29, 2025 at 12:17 pm

    @jonas: And The Felon does what he can to punish states whose governors have been “mean” to him. If she thinks Michigan is going to be hit especially hard by tariffs, I just can’t blame her for sucking up a little bit.

  162. 162.

    Betty Cracker

    April 29, 2025 at 12:18 pm

    @Socolofi: I’m guessing from context that “riding” in Canadian politics is similar to U.S. congressional districts? I hope the name has some romantic frontier origin story, like the area was the distance a representative could ride on a horse in a day or some such. ;-)

  163. 163.

    Nettoyeur

    April 29, 2025 at 12:19 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    No thanks for the snark.

    Family reasons. Wife’s grandparents emigrated from Russia to US because if the 1905 and 1917 revolutions. Those that stayed behind ended up shot in ditches in 1941, all that is left is Russian postcards. Wife’s German mother was part Jewish, sent as teenager to slave labor, escaped during Dresden fire raid, married American post war.  Yesterday the White House press rep said they were open to arresting Supreme Court judges, tends to make one wary. Don’t want to leave, but contingency plans…..

  164. 164.

    Chief Oshkosh

    April 29, 2025 at 12:19 pm

    @sixthdoctor: I would LOVE it if those fucking morons continued to pick a fight with Amazon because I don’t see them winning.

    OTOH, I am not sure that this is anything more than posturing on both sides. We’ll see.

  165. 165.

    stinger

    April 29, 2025 at 12:23 pm

    @NotMax: ​
     Must be universal, as it started happening for me a week or so ago. So annoying.

  166. 166.

    sab

    April 29, 2025 at 12:24 pm

    @Eural Joiner: 403(b)s grow tax free, amd once you take it out you won’t have time to replenish it as a tax deferred account even if you live another 30 years. You really don’t want to pull it out now.

  167. 167.

    brendancalling

    April 29, 2025 at 12:25 pm

     

    @Harrison Wesley: never ever quit bass. Ever.

  168. 168.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 12:26 pm

    So, that gnarly storm that came through here is headed toward St. Louis. If it’s still as intense as it was when it came through here, it’s dangerous! The 100 mph winds are bad. My manager said on his way to work he saw a bunch of trees down and the power was out in a big swath of the city. Lucky for me, my bar appears to be unscathed.

  169. 169.

    brendancalling

    April 29, 2025 at 12:26 pm

    @Citizen Alan: 55 in a few months, and same feeling.

  170. 170.

    Citizen Alan

    April 29, 2025 at 12:27 pm

    @cain: They are holding on to the hope that Trump is going to turn this country completely white christian male. He has been making those moves. So they love him for that.

    I’m sure he has a slew of EOs ready that puts Christianity first.

    There’s a part of me that thinks that, if the worst happens, I’ll be okay because I am capable of “passing.” I am a white 55yo male, aro-ace but not actively gay, and while I haven’t set foot in a church in nearly 20 years, I remember enough to make the right mouth noises about how I’ve repented of my sins and let Jesus back into my heart. All I would have to do is join an Evangelical Church and find some woman I could tolerate living with to marry (with the quiet understanding that we would never have sex), and I would probably be fine.

    I only see two obstacles. Or rather one thing I know is an obstacle, and one thing I hope is an obstacle. I hope I would have too much self-respect to live a lie 24/7 for the rest of my life. I know I can’t spend the rest of the month, let alone the rest of my life, nodding along with bigots and morons, which I think I would have to do to be welcomed into an Evangelical church. At my age, my tolerance for utter stupidity is almost completely exhausted, to the point that I won’t stay in a room where a conservative is talking politics.

    (Yeah, yeah, I know. Not all Evangelical churches are like that, and some are decent and progressive. But don’t lie to yourself and pretend that the “good Christians” aren’t on the same pogrom list as the rest of us, no matter how far down they are.)

  171. 171.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    April 29, 2025 at 12:27 pm

    @NotMax: One of would think “no” but this is Trump, so maybe?

  172. 172.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 12:28 pm

    @karen gail: I was born in 1961, so I feel that too. I think the best time period of my life for everything was the 1990’s. The economy was good, the scandals were stupid and mostly irrelevant, and we had relative peace.

  173. 173.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 12:29 pm

    @ArchTeryx: I hate those “radar indicated” tornadoes. They go crazy over them, and they rarely actually come to the ground. This one was a sighted tornado north of Springfield. My manager sent me a picture of it – he lives about 1/4 mile from where it touched down!

  174. 174.

    prostratedragon

    April 29, 2025 at 12:29 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Seems many people are considering what his flailings (first fail, then flail) might look like.

    Tom Sullivan at digby’s surveys some conjectures about What’s a stymied autocrat to do?

    Emptywheel writes that his failure to make “deals” regarding Harvard, Ukraine, and foreign trade puts him in a situation of narcissistic injury which may lead him to retaliate against someone or other.

  175. 175.

    Citizen Alan

    April 29, 2025 at 12:30 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot: It’s worse. If a Democrat doesn’t make a mistake, the media and the GOP will fabricate them out of whole cloth.

  176. 176.

    zhena gogolia

    April 29, 2025 at 12:30 pm

    @Nettoyeur: Yeah, I have a family history too. But I’m stuck here.

  177. 177.

    Baud

    April 29, 2025 at 12:32 pm

    At this rate, we’re not going to have any perfect people left.

  178. 178.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    April 29, 2025 at 12:34 pm

    I was excited about the Amazon news regarding tariffs rasing prices.  But It stems from “Punchbowl News.”  Okay.  I’ll believe it when I see it. When is BJ going to start a rumor that gets picked up the White House?

  179. 179.

    HopefullyNotcassandra

    April 29, 2025 at 12:36 pm

    @Jeffro: it might also reflect people fleeing the evangelical label because of this president’s corruption.  The number of self identified republicans are certainly down from November.  Either that, or these folks are proselytizing something entirely different than the Gospel.

  180. 180.

    Citizen Alan

    April 29, 2025 at 12:37 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: I would really, really like Pritzker if he weren’t so rich. At this point, my belief that great wealth is invariably morally corrosive is so ingrained in me that it rises to the level of a religious tenet. I just don’t think I can trust any billionaire to be a good guy, and I can’t look at Pritzker without instinctively thinking he’s got some awful moral skeletons in his closet.

  181. 181.

    prostratedragon

    April 29, 2025 at 12:38 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:  All these signal anniversaries coming up will be good opportunities to highlight what those badtards are throwing to the trash.

  182. 182.

    stinger

    April 29, 2025 at 12:39 pm

    @Baud: We’ll always have you!

  183. 183.

    lowtechcyclist

    April 29, 2025 at 12:40 pm

    @RaflW: ​
     

    I said it before Trump even won the election, but I’m being proven right faster than I expected: Voting Trump is voting for China as the world hegemon for the 21st centrury.

    I for one am ready to welcome our new Chinese overlords. At least they take global warming seriously. Might be our best hope for the world to be mostly livable in the 22nd century.

  184. 184.

    Baud

    April 29, 2025 at 12:40 pm

    @HopefullyNotcassandra:

    Gospel comes from old English Godspel which means “good news.”

    Evangelical Trump supports believe in faspel, which means “fake news.”

  185. 185.

    Suzanne

    April 29, 2025 at 12:42 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: I feel like I can like many/most of our politicos, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to think that all of them are great presidential candidates. There’s a lot of superficial stuff that nonetheless matters, and I want to see how they sort of intersect with “the national mood”.

  186. 186.

    Citizen Alan

    April 29, 2025 at 12:42 pm

    Can someone post a link to the post from a few days back where people were listing items that we should consider buying before the tariffs kick in? I can’t find it.

  187. 187.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 12:42 pm

    @Soprano2: Born in 1957 here; and what I remember of the ‘90s was the whole “full employment” thing. That, like (ahem) a year ago every business had a “help wanted” sign out, and Black men without college degrees, always the last to be hired/first to be fired were actually getting jobs.

  188. 188.

    Baud

    April 29, 2025 at 12:42 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:

    I’m looking forward to better quality take out.

  189. 189.

    jonas

    April 29, 2025 at 12:43 pm

    @twbrandt: My sense is that the UAW thought it could come out in favor of tariffs in principle right away to get on Trump’s good side, and then prevail on him to make them more effectively targeted or something. Instead, Trump is just continuing to blow shit up with no rhyme or reason whatsoever and American auto workers will be some of the worst affected. At least the guys in Michigan will continue to have some union protections when the layoffs come. All those guys down in right-to-work states like Alabama are just boned. But that’s what they’ve repeatedly voted for, so the violin I have to play for them is pretty damn small.

  190. 190.

    brendancalling

    April 29, 2025 at 12:43 pm

    @Nettoyeur: GF and I are looking at Canada, Mexico, and various South American countries.

  191. 191.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 12:46 pm

    @jonas: I’m wondering when Americans are going to understand that there’s no point in trying to appease Trump, he’s always going to turn on you?

    “Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal” could have been written about that mango MF.

  192. 192.

    frosty

    April 29, 2025 at 12:46 pm

    @brendancalling: Yeah, Fetterman should STFU if he’s just going to say stupid stuff.

    I feel a lot better about Van Hollen and Alsobrooks watching out for the Port of Baltimore. They took a big hit with the Key Bridge collapse. They don’t need to lose a bunch of shipping now.

  193. 193.

    Belafon

    April 29, 2025 at 12:49 pm

    @Soprano2: As with most complex things, you either put up with false positives or you put up with missing actual positives.

  194. 194.

    Belafon

    April 29, 2025 at 12:51 pm

    @Citizen Alan: We know that was true of FDR.

  195. 195.

    Baud

    April 29, 2025 at 12:52 pm

    @stinger:

    I won’t let you down.

  196. 196.

    Trollhattan

    April 29, 2025 at 12:53 pm

    Reason #1 to promote EVs would be living in any of these metros.

    These were the 10 most polluted metropolitan areas in the United States in terms of ozone, according to the American Lung Association:

    Los Angeles-Long Beach
    Visalia
    Bakersfield
    Phoenix-Mesa, Arizona
    Fresno-Hanford-Corcoran
    Denver-Aurora-Greeley, Colorado
    Houston-Pasadena, Texas
    San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad
    Salt Lake City-Provo-Orem, Utah
    Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas

    Texas has a Pasadena?

  197. 197.

    Citizen Alan

    April 29, 2025 at 12:54 pm

    @brendancalling:  I’m staying put, I think. I don’t think I can get citizenship in any other country without several $million in the bank which I simply don’t have and don’t expect to get. And honestly, if California falls to the fascists, I don’t think any other nation on earth would be safer.

  198. 198.

    scav

    April 29, 2025 at 12:54 pm

    @Belafon: Ah yes, we can certainly deliver to you a 99% accurate warning of a tornado hitting your actual building! It will come within seconds of its arrival.  Plus or minus.

  199. 199.

    Prometheus Shrugged

    April 29, 2025 at 12:54 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: Not sure how you arrive at this conclusion, unless it’s purely sarcastic. (Can’t tell after the first line of your post). As a single country, China emits more CO2 per year than the entire ocean can absorb. They are also responsible for egregious overfishing in the Pacific and Indian Oceans and rampant deforestation throughout SE Asia and Africa. So not exactly noble stewards of the environment.

  200. 200.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 12:55 pm

    @Belafon: I know, but you don’t have to listen to the sirens. I’ve lived here forever, I’m pretty blase about it.

  201. 201.

    Belafon

    April 29, 2025 at 12:55 pm

    @Trollhattan: And London,  Paris, and Palestine,

  202. 202.

    Belafon

    April 29, 2025 at 12:57 pm

    @Soprano2: As a Texan, I was taught the sirens meant you run outside to look.

  203. 203.

    lowtechcyclist

    April 29, 2025 at 1:00 pm

    @Prometheus Shrugged:

    As a single country, China emits more CO2 per year than the entire ocean can absorb.

    They’ve got four times as many people as the U.S., and probably a lot of people in their rural areas are still burning wood for fuel.  But AFAICT, they’re doing their best to change course. But with a billion and a half people, overnight transformations aren’t gonna happen, even with centralized rule. (Mao tried that, and we know how it worked out. So do they, obviously.)

  204. 204.

    Elizabelle

    April 29, 2025 at 1:02 pm

    @Citizen Alan:  It was a WaterGirl thread.

    Something Practical.

    Re what to stock up on, etc.

  205. 205.

    Eural Joiner

    April 29, 2025 at 1:03 pm

    @sab: thanks for the feedback…our calculation is we can liquidate hers and take care of everyone comfortably and then draw from mine when I turn 59.5 vs. we don’t touch hers and struggle (really really struggle) financially for three years and then draw from both. I get the financial impact, but the quality of life is just…you can’t get those years back!

  206. 206.

    cain

    April 29, 2025 at 1:08 pm

    @Citizen Alan: Since Christians have allowed their religion to be co-opted by conmen and sex abusers. I’m not really extending much grace to them or I guess to ourselves since we allowed a dictator to takeover

  207. 207.

    Trollhattan

    April 29, 2025 at 1:11 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:

    One of their critical areas is concrete manufacture (cement, specifically), which is very CO2 intensive. Research in reducing  concrete-sourced CO2 is ongoing but not yet employed on a meaningful scale.

  208. 208.

    Soprano2

    April 29, 2025 at 1:14 pm

    @Belafon: That’s what they mean here, too. LOL

  209. 209.

    artem1s

    April 29, 2025 at 1:19 pm

    @Jackie: ​ 

    This was never a consideration for the main Amazon site

    So the costs go up on everything and customers can’t tell which vendors are passing on tariffs and which are price gouging. That’s gonna go over well.

  210. 210.

    Professor Bigfoot

    April 29, 2025 at 1:19 pm

    @cain:

    “In the first century in Palestine, Christianity was a community of believers. Then Christianity moved to Greece and became a philosophy. Then it moved to Rome and became an institution. Then it moved to Europe and became a culture. And then it moved to America and became a business.” Priscilla Shirer

  211. 211.

    Fair Economist

    April 29, 2025 at 1:43 pm

    @lou: That article is way off, blaming Peron for policies started 20 years before he came to power.  Tariffs started going up in the 1910’s and peaked in the 1930’s, causing a precipitous drop in trade, completed before he came to power. International trade actually *increased* under Peron, and then fell even further afterwards. latinaer.springeropen.com/articles/10.1007/s40503-017-0050-9

  212. 212.

    Prometheus Shrugged

    April 29, 2025 at 1:46 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: Emissions have been, and are still, dominated by coal fired electricity plants. The recent tilt towards decarbonization in China was probably mostly spurred by the need to do something about the horribly unhealthy air quality in the cities. (And then, most recently, from the desire to dominate the clean tech industries.) Don’t get me wrong–any step, for whatever reasons, towards decarbonization, is inherently a good thing. My colleagues have been arguing for years that the way to circumvent the per capita emissions stalemate (that you alluded to) is to leverage the actual geopolitical interests of countries like China and India.  It’s just that for the Chinese government, the attitudes to the global environment seem (at least in my observations) to be antithetical to the sustainable environmentalists in the US.

  213. 213.

    George

    April 29, 2025 at 2:07 pm

    @sab: ​ Democrats in Congress care. The Republicans, currently in the majority of Congress, don’t.
    That’s the messaging that we need to use. Normies hear “Congress doesn’t care” and they aren’t bright enough to understand who controls Congress and who is in the minority.
    We have to spell it out for the normies, every damned time.​

  214. 214.

    catclub

    April 29, 2025 at 2:11 pm

    @Eural Joiner: ​
    My sympathies, I assume you have looked at 403b forums – they all hate them – for good reason.

    for instance: 403bwise.org/education/bad-403b

  215. 215.

    Doc Sardonic

    April 29, 2025 at 2:13 pm

    @George: Normies hear and see that Congress is ineffectual, is gridlocked, doesn’t care etc. due to media framing. It is always Congress fails to pass (insert bill here), not Republican controlled Congress, unless Democrats are in the majority then they use majority related framing.

  216. 216.

    UncleEbeneezer

    April 29, 2025 at 2:15 pm

    @StringOnAStick: I have a Guild semi-hollow arriving today!  I’ve never played a Taylor (or Martin) that I didn’t love.  So I’d feel very comfortable buying one that I’ve never touched as long as I’ve heard it and seen good pix.

  217. 217.

    Eural Joiner

    April 29, 2025 at 3:23 pm

    @catclub: thanks for the resource!!!

  218. 218.

    sab

    April 29, 2025 at 3:33 pm

    @George: Good point. I agree.

  219. 219.

    Ruckus

    April 29, 2025 at 5:34 pm

    Any other vets that use the VA on here?

    And/Or have old fartitus?

    Had an 2 appointments at the VA yesterday but the VA had screwed up a tad but the doc I needed to see said she had another vet at the same time. So she said that she had an opening today because someone had canceled. As I’m retired my schedule is just a tad open these days.

    Drove down to the facility but could not find it, it has been a hell of a long time since I drove there because I can take a train to almost the front door and a bus the last mile or so. But of course it’s been a rather long time since I drove the 55 miles there. I could not find it, not in any way shape or form, my phone couldn’t find the directions in maps. IOW I spent damn near an entire day driving around LA. And of course missed the open appointment. Can anyone else say pissed the hell off? Or is it just me? shitforbrains cut the employees at the VA down a lot. And it’s affecting vets. A damn lot. FUCKING JACKASS SHITFORBRAINS.

    And that’s being extremely unkind to jackasses.

  220. 220.

    sab

    April 29, 2025 at 5:42 pm

    @Ruckus: My sister waited for six mo ths for a social security appointment to change her status from principal recipient to spouse. She got to the appointment and they told her she couldverify her identiry with them but she would have to go home and do it on line.

    Fortunately shE has a computer and could do ot on line.

    All this stuff that used to work is now broken. I want to whip or slap or whatever to those young muskrats who broke things, at Trump’s behest.

  221. 221.

    Ruckus

    April 29, 2025 at 6:45 pm

    @sab:

    A lot/ALL is directly SHITFORBRAINS doing.

    The VA lost a lot of employees. Among many other Federal programs. After I returned from all that fun and games, I called the VA to at least attempt another appointment. I got one, a month away. I’ll survive just fine but this appointment was at the request of one of my docs, as I said, there was a problem with appointments and it is a direct result of the let go employees, you know, the people that make the government actually work.

    I wonder how many other citizens are having problems caused directly by shitforbrains? I’d bet it is a very unreasonable percentage of the population.

    This is SHITFORBRAINS fault. Him and him alone. OK the idiots that voted for him as well.

    This is supposed to be a democracy, not a shit brained monarchy.

  222. 222.

    Ruckus

    April 29, 2025 at 7:04 pm

    @sab:

    I want to get a Real ID to replace my drivers license and have to go to the CA DMV to make it happen. I was going to drive there, it’s about 8 miles away. I AM TAKING THE FREAKING BUS. I’ll have to walk the last 2 blocks but one of my neighbors wants to buy my car and I am now extremely willing to do this NOW. I believe I’ve said this before, this getting old shit is getting old. But then that is the reality of life…. At least I’ve had and am still having one, had a cousin that made 6 months. I was the youngest in my family, I am, as of 3 years ago the only one left and am the oldest of the extended family. All aunts, uncles, one cousin gone.

  223. 223.

    Ruckus

    April 29, 2025 at 8:46 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Any half way decent human would be far, far better than the shit show we see every damn day. (I’m still just a tad upset about – well most everything at the moment) This world has it’s flaws and we as humans cause a lot of them but damn, it doesn’t have to be this bad. Those rich fucks that pay higher taxes – they are still freaking rich. Those of us who work for 60 years and put often hard earned  money into the government really, really, really should be pissed at the djt admirers that seemingly thought (such as it is…) that he’d make it to even the worst of the worst – and that he has made a world record for worst of the worst. Do those dipshits have any idea what an actual working federal government is? And the answer is HELL NO – they have no idea. Gotta give them credit, they do know how to screw it up extremely badly. If only that was what a few hundred million humans needed. That they took oaths to not do, OK maybe turning it into shit IS ALL THEY KNOW.

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