After giving the Republicans so much red meat in that speech (which both parties know most of the stuff won’t happen because we can’t pay for any of it) I wonder what they will complain about–as Keith Olbermann asked, “the color of his tie?”
After taking a piss break during the bland Stepford-Wife Paul Whatshisname speaking for the Republican reply, I can’t wait to watch the queen of batshit, Michele Bachmann.
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mr. whipple
This is the part where the talking heads tell me what I just watched. Without their help I’d be sooo lost.
8.
Nikita
I watched online and really like WH’s media outreach.
The first half of the speech was pretty bold, but delivered in a very sober way. Obama is beginning to move the overton window in anticipation of his re-election. The latter half was boilerplate.
10.
Xecky Gilchrist
So were there any good “you lie!” moments?
Or did the mixed-party chaperon seating keep the Redoublechins from losing their shit?
11.
Loneoak
What will be President Bachmann’s best historical gaffe be?
The Constitution was written on the Shroud of Turin?
@Loneoak: hard to beat the one Tweety has been rattling on about today, that the Founders ended slavery.
18.
Ija
Do Bachmann and Ryan get a copy of the President’s speech beforehand? Or are they just saying whatever just for the sake of it?
19.
Poopyman
@Xecky Gilchrist: Nah. You could see the old farts looking around to see whether they should clap or not. Applause was muted and dissent was non-existent. And RB Ginsberg slept through it all.
20.
beltane
@Xecky Gilchrist: I didn’t watch the speech live in anticipation of a repeat of the “you lie” moment, which would have caused me to start screaming obscenities at the first Republican I saw.
21.
Davis X. Machina
I quick- read the thread title as “The SotU Goes Ever On (Apathy).”
I take great comfort from the fact that the Republic, while not flourishing as it might, is on an even enough keel that going through the ceremonial motions is once again the appropriate rhetorical stance.
Save the great speeches for when the asteroid is incoming, is my feeling.
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Anne Laurie
Boy, there were a LOT of autograph seekers. One woman whose face never quite came into focus on CNN said “They sat me next to Joe Wilson, and I kept him from [inaudible] ”
That got a big grin out of the President, but then so did a lot of other inaudible comments…
hard to beat the one Tweety has been rattling on about today, that the Founders ended slavery.
Have faith my friend, have faith.
27.
Poopyman
Oh look! There’s -Count Chocula- Paul Ryan!
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JGabriel
Hey, Paul Ryan: Devo called. They want their hair back.
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29.
ppcli
@Southern Beale:
Broun. Rhymes with “Whatta Maroon.” Listen, Maroon, I’ve lived in soc ialist countries. I grew up in a country where you could vote for a soc ialist party that occasionally won, and once I was of voting age, I regularly did. So I know what soc ialism looks like, and believe me, what Obama is giving us isn’t it.
30.
beltane
@Southern Beale: He’s a real witty one that Dr. Brauner. He said Obama believes in teh soshalism. I’ve never heard a wingnut say that about the president before, what a creative genius this rep is.
31.
Omnes Omnibus
Paul Ryan is an embarrassment to the State of Wisconsin.
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Anya
It’s weird but this is the first time I hear Paul Ryan’s voice. Is this what Wisconsin accent sounds like?
somebody said he looks like Peter Brady all “grow-ded” up…lol
34.
KG
Paul Ryan looks like he’s been using Bohnoer’s bronzer. He also sounds like one of those old Disney Amnimatronic robots
35.
El Cid
On PBS, another fucking conservative douchebag giving this bullshit comparison of the US to Greece if we don’t take care of the deficit (you know, without getting any more revenue, say, through taxes, because, fuck you).
These days they don’t even have to say it that many times before people think it’s true.
For variety’s sake, I turned it to Univision, where Ros-Legtinen is announcing an invasion of Cuba giving the Republican response. Also about how the deficit is about to creep out of the closet and stab your child in his bed.
@joe from Lowell: What he really ought to be concerned about is that even his kids are bright enough to figure out that his roadmap is a big bunch of grade-A bullshit, and they’re all under the age of 10.
54.
djork
Did he just threaten to hold the debt ceiling hostage?
Anyone else getting dizzy watching Ryan change his facial expression with every syllable?
He is trying to be a very earnest person, I guess.
Oh my God…the social safety net is bcoming a hamock again. Fer fucks sake.
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hells littlest angel
He’s calling the social safety net a hammock where lazy socialist welfare cheats loll as we turn into Greece. What a jerkoff.
64.
Anne Laurie
Switched to CNN’s ‘SotU Focus Group Reaction’ screen — Reps are holding around 70% favorable, no surprise, and Dems in the mid-30s. But the “independents” are pretty much moving in line with the Dems… they are not feeling the Ryan-mentum, for some reason.
Who will be the first to say Paul Ryan looks presidential? K-Lo or Wolf Blitzer?
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General Stuck
I peaked too early today. All out of hot air. The SOTU does have a creepy feel about it. Like those old Supreme Soviet assemblies , where folks clapped on cue, or someone took them for a long walk. We don’t do that of course.
Ah yes, the renewed joys of the superfluous State of the Union speech. With all the bipartisan hackwork one can muster. It has been a long two years.
Now we can get back to the important business of “clean” coal, earmarks, deficit neutral tax code reform and the ongoing virtues of the war on terror. Also, inefficient salmon regulations.
@Anne Laurie: Thank heavens and thank you for being brave enough to watch. Since he’s from the district south of me, I cannot bear it and I won’t do it.
BTW…I answed your comment to me a couple of weeks ago with respect to our disagreement on issues last year.
I’m looking forward, not back.
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El Cid
Ros-Lehtinen is suggesting that we have forgotten that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence demands a limited government. And otherwise we have no individual liberties. It does too much. Too big. Too big. Too big.
The Democrats want big government, love spending money. They want more taxes. In 2 years they’ve gone wild with spending (because under Bush Jr. and the Republican triumvirate 2002-2006, we were totally fucking all about balanced budgets and shrinking government).
Their day of reckoning has coming — and we Republicans have arrived just in time to do it.
The government’s bad policies inspired Wall Street to collapse.
We succeeded as the most awesomest bestest richest magical fucking super terrific country anyone ever even imagined existing on this Urf because we had limited gubmit and a freemarkit, and in Washington they forgot this.
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I’m sure it was only party browbeating which kept her from claiming that Obama was following the orders of Raul and Fidel Castro.
80.
beltane
@Anne Laurie: Whenever independents watch actual Republicans for an extended period of time like this they tend not to like them. The problem is that they have very short memories and even shorter attention spans.
81.
Loneoak
American free market capitalism has done more to help the poor than all other economic systems combined! Wow. Just wow.
82.
jl
Hello, my fellow lazy debauched welfare kings and queens lazing in the Hammock of the Welfare State. I greet you!
SOUND MONEY! The way Ryan said it, it sounds a little like MAD MONEY! Ryan would sounds a little like Cramer, if he talked louder and faster.
83.
jcricket
The CNN insta-poll, much like the ones during the presidential and Veep debates in 2008, should be illustrative to Democrats.
Stop listening to the fucking Villagers. Stop watching Fox News. Don’t worry about what the GOP says America believes or their portrayal of Democrats.
Enough of the American public is onboard with the Democratic agenda, should we choose to present it in the affirmative and defend it, that we need not worry. The 30%+ who are wingnuts aren’t voting for us no matter what compromise we offer. Adopting a defensive crouch, compromising away core principles (SS anyone?) does nothing but depress the base and turn off potential independent/non-affiliated voters.
Basically, we don’t need to move any further left, or further right. Where we are is fine. This speech is an excellent reminder of it.
Why do you even write here? Your posts are full of disgusting solipsistic, nihilistic resigned meanderings.
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inkadu
@El Cid: Where do Republicans find Latinos? Is he a Florida Cuban?
92.
ppcli
@Southern Beale:
Dying in moderation up above, so I’ll try again:
Broun. Rhymes with “Whatta Maroon.” Listen, Maroon, I’ve lived in soc ialist countries. I grew up in a country where you could vote for a soc ialist party that occasionally won, and once I was of voting age, I regularly did. So I know what soc ialism looks like, and believe me, what Obama is giving us isn’t it.
Paul Ryan didn’t say “God Bless Murika” after his response. So much for his re-election prospects!
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junebug
Why does Katie keep saying this is only the second SOTU? Wasn’t there the one where Joe said you lie and then the other where Alito mouthed you are wrong? or some such? Am I counting these things wrong?
95.
jl
And we all know, very well that the ‘last century’ was an example of U.S. economic power and growth fueled by a move to stricly limited government.
Ryan studied U.S. history with Bachmann, looks like.
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Big City Mary
Boehner is a very seriously odd person, I could not take my eyes off of him because I thought he was going to loose it at any second-all together very distracting.
@Mark S.: Josh Marshall says Wolf Blitzer is “vamping”, which I guess means bragging in this context, about CNN being the only ones to carry Whackadoo Bachman’s speech. Hard to believe they keep slipping in the ratings.
A black friend on twitter just retweeted a BUNCH of his black friends all saying “Did Paul Ryan just say Congress is filled with new white faces?”
A fair question. Did he say that?
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Davy McBongo
Shorter Paul Ryan: We must shrink the federal government until so we can insert it into your uterus and Jesus things up in there.
111.
Nick
For the record, my friend who tried to tell me Wall Street Bonuses are good for the poor yesterday was very offended at Rep. Paul Braun’s tweet saying the President doesn’t believe in the Constitution, he believes in Socialism. Couldn’t believe that came from a member of Congress.
I resist the urge to say “He’s one of yours buddy”
I hope Palin let Bachman borrow that all black leather outfit…
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Clutch414
Actually, the Joe Wilson “you lie” thing wasn’t at an official SOTU address. The President gave an address to the joint session of congress (on healthcare) in September, 2009. Alito made made his mouthing at the SOTU in January, 2010. It looked and felt like and official SOTU, but wasn’t technically a SOTU.
@Bob Loblaw: its okay Bob, you can still read your Conservative handbook by candlelight with your AK-47 by your side as you bunker down for the night. The Black Helicopters are parked for the night…but soon my friend, very soon they’ll fly and they know where you ARE thanks to your posts here. heh heh heh
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Davis X. Machina
Has there ever been anyone as fortunate in his choice of enemies as Obama?
Bachman seems to be trying to channel Palin’s weird ee-nuns-SAY-shun patterns. Also, she’s not blinking, but she’s moving her eyebrows to a rhythm that would be blinking in a normal person.
Dems & Independents, once again, tracking pretty much together, mostly in the low 30% favorable. Reps can’t get much above the high 50s, except for spikes when she uses the word ‘repeal’ in whatever context.
160.
Poopyman
OTOH Valerie Jarrett is on MSNBC, and she really rubs me the wrong way. She needs to GTFO my TV.
wait, is Bahammann REALLY blaming unemployment on Obama. Wasn’t this happening b4 Obama.
A stopped clock is right occassionally. Obama’s anti-Keynesian policies aren’t going to reduce unemployment any better than Morgenthau’s did during FDR.
There comes a point at which you have to own it, blaming Bush isn’t going to work in Nov. 2012.
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Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@freelancer: you missed a speech where she was looking off camera the entire time trying to follow the teleprompter
@Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen: I heard it as ‘new bright faces’, but mostly it sounded like he was stumbling around getting a brainlock between the stuff he’d practiced in the mirror and his teleprompter scroll. He did seem embarrassed about something.
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inkadu
Well, I wish I had the last two hours back.
I’m going to do something more useful now. Like stand on a pillar of 64 cobblestones in Mine Craft and wait out the night.
I suppose this is what Independents want, however. Politics shouldn’t be about all this disagreement and arguing; let’s focus on the important stuff instead: salmon!
@gbear: Really, I mean, I use more complicated sentences, larger words, and more intricate logic when speaking to toddlers and they understand what is being said.
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Loneoak
From NYT, even the Tea Party Express had the brains to not mention Bachmann’s speech that they sponsored:
Ms. Bachmann’s brief remarks were billed as a Tea Party response, sponsored in part by the Tea Party Express, one of the groups leading the movement that swept Republicans into office in November.
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But in an oddity, the Web site for the Tea Party Express ignored Ms. Bachmann completely.
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While CNN broadcast her remarks live, the Tea Party Express Web site instead broadcast a live stream from the White House featuring aides taking questions and talking about Mr. Obama’s speech.
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gbear
@Omnes Omnibus: Yea, but you’re probably thinking while you’re talking. Bachmann just lets it fly.
Did anyone have a thrill go up their leg once they realized she was going to have to pronounce “Iwo Jima”? There was a really intense, animalistic, primal fear that passed across her face, just briefly, right before she came upon those two clearly socialist words.
I’m really all for more Michele Bachmann national addresses, really. I thought tonight exceeded expectations.
201.
Svensker
Listening to Ari Frigging Fleischer bleat on about how Obama spends too much money and doesn’t create enough jobs — Ari Fleischer — made my blood pressure shoot up. War mongering destroyer of countries aargle barrgle.
The movie was worse than SOTU.
202.
handy
But in an oddity, the Web site for the Tea Party Express ignored Ms. Bachmann completely.
When you’re the Teabaggers useful idiot, how much lower can you get?
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JCT
Whoa baby, what a gift to have Bachmann’s dribblings be the Republican’s “final words” on the evening.
Talk about stream of “unconsciousness”. What an idiot.
Joe Walsh (R-Illinois): Life’s been good to me so far…
210.
JMY
I wish people would stop acting as if the Tea Party is some reputable movement. They are not (I’m looking at you CNN).
211.
Violet
@S. cerevisiae:
I’m just watching it now. She’s looking off to the side most of the time, which makes her look possessed. Her eyeshadow is too dark and makes her look freakier than normal. The lighting is not at all flattering and she looks like she’s had some very bad plastic surgery. She had charts, plus a weird peach colored chair in front of the American flag.
The whole thing is bizarre. I have no idea what she’s doing.
212.
Cain
I wish people would stop acting as if the Tea Party is some reputable movement. They are not (I’m looking at you CNN).
Of course anything that makes Wolf look like the stupid tool is absolutely fine with m.e
cain
213.
Violet
Michele Bachmann: “I believe that America is the indispensable nation of the world. Just the creation of this nation itself was a miracle.”
I bet the Romans thought they were indispensable too.
214.
4jkb4ia
I liked Nate’s tweet about how this overshot professorial and went right for cheesy. I read the speech, but spousal unit needed to take a walk after dinner.
Adam Green, firebagger by any other name, comes on MSNBC with a prepped list of 6 things he doesn’t like. There were a few things that I found objectionable, but this whiny prick finds Democratic politics and political gamesmanship to be a zero sum game.
There’s a reason that Al Qaeda calls themselves Al Qaeda, which means “The Base”. Fuck Adam Green, he doesn’t speak for me.
The whole thing is bizarre. I have no idea what she’s doing.
That makes two of you.
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4jkb4ia
@Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel):
Understandable. In the ancient days of “Songwriters Showcase” on KDHX the above mentioned song was treated almost as the greatest thing ever written.
226.
CaseyL
Coming in late is a mistake. Y’all drank all the booze, there’s nothing but crumbs left in the chips bowl, and it looks like someone used the party banner for a napkin.
Anyway: I saw the SOTU while on the elliptic at the gym, and I have to say Obama speeches are pretty good to exercise by.
The SOTU wasn’t bad. Since I watched it on C-SPAN, without benefit of talking heads, and without liveblog commentary, I thought it was a good speech. I agree that we need what amounts to a “space race” in terms of education, basic research, and new technology development. It’s an ambitious domestic agenda, that’s for sure, and it’ll be interesting to see how much he follows through on it.
Two things really stood out for me: His call to end oil bidness subsidies, and to replace NCLB. Definitely good ideas; let’s see if either or both happen.
I missed Bachmann’s psychotic word salad – “missed” as in, “refused to watch.” Which is kind of a pity, because it sounds like she was a hoot. Wonder what would happen if someone slipped her some good acid: would anyone notice? Would she suddenly become lucid?
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4jkb4ia
And Dave Weigel’s feed was very entertaining. You were there.
228.
Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)
@4jkb4ia: Really? Wow. I can hear it’s a good song for the genre, just not my cup of tea.
229.
FlipYrWhig
Only saw the end of Obama’s speech, thought it was kinda meh. I don’t inspire easily.
230.
Emerald
@djork: You seem to be the only one who noticed that besides me. I thought that was the only huge piece of news in Ryan’s speech.
The Rs have made Ryan the czar of all their financial moves. If he’s decided they’re going to refuse to raise the debt ceiling, then he’s decided to have a world depression. Probably thinks people will blame Obama.
I’m frankly surprised the Rs will go that far, but if they do, then we are in very serious trouble.
Does Paul Ryan make everyone want to pick him up and slap him with coarse sandpaper till he cries like John Boehner? Or is that just me?
That is not just you.
232.
burnspbesq
“Sound money.” Yes, he actually said “sound money.” ‘Bout drove off the side of the freeway when I heard that. What year does this numbskull think it is, 1893?
233.
FlipYrWhig
@burnspbesq: I left the room rather than watching, but from what I heard, he sounded like the classic College Republican douchebag from my own college days in the late ’80s and early ’90s.
Congressman Ryan, if the national debt is one of your greatest concerns as a parent, that means you are a shitty parent.
So where does the national debt come in on the Right-Wing Fear-O-Meter relative to the activist gay left? I mean we know, from listening to Andrew Breitbart that the activist gay left is scarier than Al Qaeda but where does the national debt fit in? Is it more scary than Al Qaeda but less scary than the activist gay left, is it more scary than the activist gay left and Al Qaeda? Or is it less scary than Al Qaeda, which means that it’s also less scary than the activist gay left.
“activist gay left” is just begging to be re/misspelled activest gay left, improper though it may be.
you know how the fundies made peace with the idea of israel, and now they are all about the old testament? i mean they love an israel that might go armageddon at any time. because they can rationalize that it brings about the end times prophesy and the once and for all proof of who wears the nicest hats to church is the person closest to god type thing….
why doesn’t this work for teh gay as well? i mean, theoretically nothing brings on the oldsmitey power of god like teh gay, right, and they want the one final true end smite? seems like they should want things to be as gay as gay can be? i mean if they want to be consistent….
of course really its about breitbart and his type saying, “dude, its ok if you’re gay, just don’t be such a fag about it, you’re making me horn-erp-nervous.” when you say you think its a choice, you are really saying its an option you might consider, because for you it might be a choice.
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Ron
@CaseyL: Watching Bachmann was creepy. I could barely focus on what she was saying because of her looking off to the right the whole time.
Mark S.
When does President Bachmann address the nation?
Dexter
Anyone planning to watch Bachmann on CNN?
JGabriel
Just saw this tweet pop up below CSpan’s feed:
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Poopyman
Is this an open bar?
Cliff
@Mark S.:
On cnn
http://live.cnn.com/
http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1
soonergrunt
After giving the Republicans so much red meat in that speech (which both parties know most of the stuff won’t happen because we can’t pay for any of it) I wonder what they will complain about–as Keith Olbermann asked, “the color of his tie?”
After taking a piss break during the bland Stepford-Wife Paul Whatshisname speaking for the Republican reply, I can’t wait to watch the queen of batshit, Michele Bachmann.
mr. whipple
This is the part where the talking heads tell me what I just watched. Without their help I’d be sooo lost.
Nikita
I watched online and really like WH’s media outreach.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2011
Alex S.
The first half of the speech was pretty bold, but delivered in a very sober way. Obama is beginning to move the overton window in anticipation of his re-election. The latter half was boilerplate.
Xecky Gilchrist
So were there any good “you lie!” moments?
Or did the mixed-party chaperon seating keep the Redoublechins from losing their shit?
Loneoak
What will be President Bachmann’s best historical gaffe be?
The Constitution was written on the Shroud of Turin?
Southern Beale
So much for civility!
wenchacha
Boehner’s tie hurt my eyes. That’s why I was crying.
Also, too in my mind I smell stale cigarettes and booze whenever I see him on tv.
freelancer
I’m sloshed. Just sayin’.
Southern Beale
@Xecky Gilchrist:
Yeah click my link above …
joe from Lowell
Replace NCLB, eh?
That’ll be fun.
KG
@Loneoak: hard to beat the one Tweety has been rattling on about today, that the Founders ended slavery.
Ija
Do Bachmann and Ryan get a copy of the President’s speech beforehand? Or are they just saying whatever just for the sake of it?
Poopyman
@Xecky Gilchrist: Nah. You could see the old farts looking around to see whether they should clap or not. Applause was muted and dissent was non-existent. And RB Ginsberg slept through it all.
beltane
@Xecky Gilchrist: I didn’t watch the speech live in anticipation of a repeat of the “you lie” moment, which would have caused me to start screaming obscenities at the first Republican I saw.
Davis X. Machina
I quick- read the thread title as “The SotU Goes Ever On (Apathy).”
I take great comfort from the fact that the Republic, while not flourishing as it might, is on an even enough keel that going through the ceremonial motions is once again the appropriate rhetorical stance.
Save the great speeches for when the asteroid is incoming, is my feeling.
Anne Laurie
Boy, there were a LOT of autograph seekers. One woman whose face never quite came into focus on CNN said “They sat me next to Joe Wilson, and I kept him from [inaudible] ”
That got a big grin out of the President, but then so did a lot of other inaudible comments…
JGabriel
Ija:
I don’t know the answer to the first question, but the second is “Yes”, no matter the answer to the first.
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celticdragonchick
Paul Ryan looks like he is on an SNL set.
Brian S (formerly Incertus)
Did I miss it? I tried to miss it.
Loneoak
@KG:
Have faith my friend, have faith.
Poopyman
Oh look! There’s -Count Chocula- Paul Ryan!
JGabriel
Hey, Paul Ryan: Devo called. They want their hair back.
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ppcli
@Southern Beale:
Broun. Rhymes with “Whatta Maroon.” Listen, Maroon, I’ve lived in soc ialist countries. I grew up in a country where you could vote for a soc ialist party that occasionally won, and once I was of voting age, I regularly did. So I know what soc ialism looks like, and believe me, what Obama is giving us isn’t it.
beltane
@Southern Beale: He’s a real witty one that Dr. Brauner. He said Obama believes in teh soshalism. I’ve never heard a wingnut say that about the president before, what a creative genius this rep is.
Omnes Omnibus
Paul Ryan is an embarrassment to the State of Wisconsin.
Anya
It’s weird but this is the first time I hear Paul Ryan’s voice. Is this what Wisconsin accent sounds like?
lamh32
@celticdragonchick:
somebody said he looks like Peter Brady all “grow-ded” up…lol
KG
Paul Ryan looks like he’s been using Bohnoer’s bronzer. He also sounds like one of those old Disney Amnimatronic robots
El Cid
On PBS, another fucking conservative douchebag giving this bullshit comparison of the US to Greece if we don’t take care of the deficit (you know, without getting any more revenue, say, through taxes, because, fuck you).
These days they don’t even have to say it that many times before people think it’s true.
For variety’s sake, I turned it to Univision, where Ros-Legtinen is
announcing an invasion of Cubagiving the Republican response. Also about how the deficit is about to creep out of the closet and stab your child in his bed.Davis X. Machina
@Brian S (formerly Incertus):
The GOP went apeshit when Obama proposed his SS cuts.
Rhythmic clapping, the Wave, the whole nine yards.
It was epic. I hope you Tivo’ed it.
JGabriel
Listening to Ryan, and here come the lies. That didn’t take long.
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inkadu
Is Paul Ryan complaining about insurance premiums going up? What an ass.
joe from Lowell
Congressman Ryan, if the national debt is one of your greatest concerns as a parent, that means you are a shitty parent.
celticdragonchick
@KG:
LMAO!
Karen
@Southern Beale:
You have to realize “civility” is very subjective. The tweet had the words “Mr. President!” From a Republican, that IS civil!
lamh32
Okay, this Ryan dude sounds like a kid
JGabriel
Does Paul Ryan make everyone want to pick him up and slap him with coarse sandpaper till he cries like John Boehner?
Or is that just me?
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martha
@lamh32: I think he’s more of an Eddie Munster myself. What a complete fraud.
srv
@Omnes Omnibus: Wisconsin is an embarrassment to the state of Wisconsin.
TR
@joe from Lowell:
My wife just said the same thing.
hells littlest angel
Ryan. Not a real smart-looking man, is he? Looks like a sober George Bush.
TR
Anyone else getting dizzy watching Ryan change his facial expression with every syllable?
Also, has anyone here ever met an actual human being who parts his hair in that way? Bizarre.
celticdragonchick
@joe from Lowell:
Agreed.
BTW…I answed your comment to me a couple of weeks ago with respect to our disagreement on issues last year.
I have no idea if you ever managed to read it.
Omnes Omnibus
Why is he still talking?
freelancer
The hero of Paul Ryan (R-Binge Drinking) received Social Security and Medicare.
Xecky Gilchrist
@Southern Beale: Yeah click my link above …
Ooh, BURN!
Wotta maroon.
fasteddie9318
@joe from Lowell: What he really ought to be concerned about is that even his kids are bright enough to figure out that his roadmap is a big bunch of grade-A bullshit, and they’re all under the age of 10.
djork
Did he just threaten to hold the debt ceiling hostage?
TaMara (BHF)
@Poopyman: @JGabriel:
Damn you both, made me look!
martha
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m watching Animal Planet. That seems appropriate.
Loneoak
Dude blinks like it’s going out of style.
Maybe it is. Has anyone checked GQ lately?
GregB
America is approaching a tipping point.
Will Ryan, give me some fucking tips!
celticdragonchick
@TR:
He is trying to be a very earnest person, I guess.
Oh my God…the social safety net is bcoming a hamock again. Fer fucks sake.
inkadu
@TR: He’s got “Dennis the Menace” eyebrows.
srv
On NBC, Ryan will be followed by “The Biggest Loser”
celticdragonchick
@TR:
He is trying to be a very earnest person, I guess.
Oh my God…the social safety net is bcoming a hamock again. Fer fucks sake.
hells littlest angel
He’s calling the social safety net a hammock where lazy socialist welfare cheats loll as we turn into Greece. What a jerkoff.
Anne Laurie
Switched to CNN’s ‘SotU Focus Group Reaction’ screen — Reps are holding around 70% favorable, no surprise, and Dems in the mid-30s. But the “independents” are pretty much moving in line with the Dems… they are not feeling the Ryan-mentum, for some reason.
Omnes Omnibus
@srv: That was uncivil, and so it this, bite me.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Who will be the first to say Paul Ryan looks presidential? K-Lo or Wolf Blitzer?
General Stuck
I peaked too early today. All out of hot air. The SOTU does have a creepy feel about it. Like those old Supreme Soviet assemblies , where folks clapped on cue, or someone took them for a long walk. We don’t do that of course.
Bob Loblaw
@Davis X. Machina:
Ah yes, the renewed joys of the superfluous State of the Union speech. With all the bipartisan hackwork one can muster. It has been a long two years.
Now we can get back to the important business of “clean” coal, earmarks, deficit neutral tax code reform and the ongoing virtues of the war on terror. Also, inefficient salmon regulations.
Future won.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@TR: You try keeping a straight face while you’re wearing two wetsuits and a dildo under a suit.
eemom
Y’all are watching this after-shit so I don’t have to. I want you to know it is appreciated.
I just don’t have the stomach for Bachmannturnerpsychodrive. Never have, never will.
mr. whipple
@Anne Laurie:
How did Obama do?
martha
@Anne Laurie: Thank heavens and thank you for being brave enough to watch. Since he’s from the district south of me, I cannot bear it and I won’t do it.
numbskull
@joe from Lowell: Good point.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@celticdragonchick:
Ryan actually said that? You’re going to hear that a lot in the next few months. From Democrats.
Omnes Omnibus
@martha: I have been switching between the idiot and White Collar. Bachmann might be worth watching.
harokin
Ryan man this is unbearable. Not even attempting a smidgen of credibility. Just all the same cliches.
celticdragonchick
Switching to CNN to see if Bachmann gives us another Mad Libs history lesson…
joe from Lowell
@celticdragonchick:
I’m looking forward, not back.
El Cid
Ros-Lehtinen is suggesting that we have forgotten that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence demands a limited government. And otherwise we have no individual liberties. It does too much. Too big. Too big. Too big.
The Democrats want big government, love spending money. They want more taxes. In 2 years they’ve gone wild with spending (because under Bush Jr. and the Republican triumvirate 2002-2006, we were totally fucking all about balanced budgets and shrinking government).
Their day of reckoning has coming — and we Republicans have arrived just in time to do it.
The government’s bad policies inspired Wall Street to collapse.
We succeeded as the most awesomest bestest richest magical fucking super terrific country anyone ever even imagined existing on this Urf because we had limited gubmit and a freemarkit, and in Washington they forgot this.
—————————–
I’m sure it was only party browbeating which kept her from claiming that Obama was following the orders of Raul and Fidel Castro.
beltane
@Anne Laurie: Whenever independents watch actual Republicans for an extended period of time like this they tend not to like them. The problem is that they have very short memories and even shorter attention spans.
Loneoak
American free market capitalism has done more to help the poor than all other economic systems combined! Wow. Just wow.
jl
Hello, my fellow lazy debauched welfare kings and queens lazing in the Hammock of the Welfare State. I greet you!
SOUND MONEY! The way Ryan said it, it sounds a little like MAD MONEY! Ryan would sounds a little like Cramer, if he talked louder and faster.
jcricket
The CNN insta-poll, much like the ones during the presidential and Veep debates in 2008, should be illustrative to Democrats.
Stop listening to the fucking Villagers. Stop watching Fox News. Don’t worry about what the GOP says America believes or their portrayal of Democrats.
Enough of the American public is onboard with the Democratic agenda, should we choose to present it in the affirmative and defend it, that we need not worry. The 30%+ who are wingnuts aren’t voting for us no matter what compromise we offer. Adopting a defensive crouch, compromising away core principles (SS anyone?) does nothing but depress the base and turn off potential independent/non-affiliated voters.
Basically, we don’t need to move any further left, or further right. Where we are is fine. This speech is an excellent reminder of it.
celticdragonchick
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Yeah, he said it. I have discovered that reality need have no relation to anything uttered by a member of the GOP these days.
Mark S.
CNN has a countdown clock to Bachmann.
Everyone will remember where they were when this happened!
martha
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m trying to figure out if I’m able to laugh or cry…if I think I’ll be too depressed, I’ll probably stick with killer lions.
gnomedad
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Lucky duckies in a hammock.
Alex S.
@TR:
He’s trying to sell his ideology to the dumb masses, as he was told.
I had not seen Ryan ‘in action’ before, but he seems to be a man of average intelligence who believes in the simple ideology he was taught.
celticdragonchick
@joe from Lowell:
I look all around so I can duck if need be…
freelancer
@Bob Loblaw:
Why do you even write here? Your posts are full of disgusting solipsistic, nihilistic resigned meanderings.
inkadu
@El Cid: Where do Republicans find Latinos? Is he a Florida Cuban?
ppcli
@Southern Beale:
Dying in moderation up above, so I’ll try again:
Broun. Rhymes with “Whatta Maroon.” Listen, Maroon, I’ve lived in soc ialist countries. I grew up in a country where you could vote for a soc ialist party that occasionally won, and once I was of voting age, I regularly did. So I know what soc ialism looks like, and believe me, what Obama is giving us isn’t it.
Michael D.
Paul Ryan didn’t say “God Bless Murika” after his response. So much for his re-election prospects!
junebug
Why does Katie keep saying this is only the second SOTU? Wasn’t there the one where Joe said you lie and then the other where Alito mouthed you are wrong? or some such? Am I counting these things wrong?
jl
And we all know, very well that the ‘last century’ was an example of U.S. economic power and growth fueled by a move to stricly limited government.
Ryan studied U.S. history with Bachmann, looks like.
Big City Mary
Boehner is a very seriously odd person, I could not take my eyes off of him because I thought he was going to loose it at any second-all together very distracting.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@junebug: same one, last year, no?
KG
@Loneoak: his eyes looked very bloodshot, orange skin and red eyes on my screen
ppcli
@freelancer:
In contrast to the rest of us, who produce appetizing solipsistic, nihilistic resigned meanderings.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@Mark S.: CUCKOO!
GregB
What was Ryan talking about? Banana hammocks?
Davis X. Machina
I prefer to call it ‘the rump-sprung fold-out sofa of social provision, in the spare room of our great nation’.
Violet
@junebug:
Those were the same one.
TR
Erick Von Erickson says he saw both texts, and likes the Bachmann speech better than Ryan’s.
I bet it has more condemnation of goat-fucking child molesters like David Souter.
mr. whipple
Hopefully Dick Clark will emcee and the ball will fall on her haid.
TR
@KG:
Same here. Was he at the pool all day?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mark S.: Josh Marshall says Wolf Blitzer is “vamping”, which I guess means bragging in this context, about CNN being the only ones to carry Whackadoo Bachman’s speech. Hard to believe they keep slipping in the ratings.
joe from Lowell
@celticdragonchick: I’m still looking for my hammock.
jinxtigr
A black friend on twitter just retweeted a BUNCH of his black friends all saying “Did Paul Ryan just say Congress is filled with new white faces?”
A fair question. Did he say that?
Davy McBongo
Shorter Paul Ryan: We must shrink the federal government until so we can insert it into your uterus and Jesus things up in there.
Nick
For the record, my friend who tried to tell me Wall Street Bonuses are good for the poor yesterday was very offended at Rep. Paul Braun’s tweet saying the President doesn’t believe in the Constitution, he believes in Socialism. Couldn’t believe that came from a member of Congress.
I resist the urge to say “He’s one of yours buddy”
TR
@jinxtigr:
The advanced text was supposed to be “President Obama just addressed a Congressional chamber filled with many new faces.”
Not sure what he actually said though.
celticdragonchick
@joe from Lowell:
Heh! Me too…
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@jinxtigr: God doesn’t love us that much.
Does He?
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
I hope Palin let Bachman borrow that all black leather outfit…
Clutch414
Actually, the Joe Wilson “you lie” thing wasn’t at an official SOTU address. The President gave an address to the joint session of congress (on healthcare) in September, 2009. Alito made made his mouthing at the SOTU in January, 2010. It looked and felt like and official SOTU, but wasn’t technically a SOTU.
Omnes Omnibus
Wasn’t Bachmann supposed to be on by now?
joe from Lowell
@celticdragonchick: …cuz I’ve got this ratty little beach towel that says “Social Security.”
Now, don’t get me wrong. I love that beach towel. I’ve had it forever. But it’s, like, 26″ x 32″ and it’s kinda thin.
…and the bastards want to take that away! “Hey, no hammock for you, pal!”
And I’m, like, “What hammock? You mean my Social Security towel?”
What’s up with that?
RinaX
@Omnes Omnibus:
I saw a tweet saying she was delayed in traffic by the President’s motorcade.
Loneoak
@jinxtigr: @TR:
I have it on TiVo. Around what point in the speech?
Cliff
bachman is on http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1
Omnes Omnibus
She is looking at the wrong camera.
TR
Aaagh, Bachmann’s got her dead eyes on me!
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
She has the teleprompter in the wrong spot. she is not looking at the camera!
Mark S.
Um, Michelle, look at the camera.
TR
@Loneoak:
It was supposed to be one of the opening lines.
inkadu
@TR: Are you standing in the far left corner of your living room???
Clutch414
@junebug: @Violet: See my previous post at #111
TR
Bachmann blaming unemployment on the stimulus. God, what an idiot.
And now lying about the 165,000 new IRS agents. What a fucking moron.
lamh32
wait, is Bahammann REALLY blaming unemployment on Obama. Wasn’t this happening b4 Obama.
This woman is a joke. many she will have some more slavery ended by founding fathers quotes to give…
sheesh.
Wait a minute, did she really bring out a line graph…she’s literally become Glen frickin’ Beck
KG
she has charts, on my…
GregB
And now from Romper Room, Michelle Bachmann.
What a lying sack of shit.
This idiot is Palinizing herself.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@Mark S.: DON’T DO IT 1 L THE PEOPLE WATCHING WILL TAKE YOUR SOUL!
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
get to the christian stuff already!
Loneoak
@TR:
Sounds like a stumble to me. Definitely not a clearly articulated ‘white.’
Omnes Omnibus
I can’t watch her. I tried.
Mark S.
My girlfriend made me change the channel.
inkadu
She sounds like a kindergarten teacher reading to her class.
gwangung
Since Bachmann has an R after her name, she’ll be believed by at least 27% of the country.
mikefromArlington
Lol she not even remotely looking at the camera which manages tommake her look even more creepy.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
let’s make things! weeeeee!!!!!!!
Loneoak
Gat damn! This is a glorious festival of stuhpid.
TR
@inkadu:
Well, that is about the mental age of her Tea Party audience.
Poopyman
@Mark S.:
Mrs. P has the remote and she ain’t budging off MSNBC. All in all, it sounds like that might be the best course.
TR
The battle in the Pathific? At Iwo Jimma?
srv
@Omnes Omnibus:
Uncivil is a state forcing this yahoo on us. He got 68% of the vote.
RareSanity
Just wanted to take a quick second, to thank @cleek and @MikeJ, for the combined effort, of the Pie Filter Chrome extension.
Seeing a big “REDACTED” for every one of the comments, by the last thread’s pathetic troll, was absolutely wonderful!
Surly Duff
The debt cisis is different than WWII? Really? I thought they were exactly the same.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
here we go. miracles!
Iwo Jima!
our debt crisis is like WWII – the big one don’t you know…
lamh32
If there was any doubt, that CNN would sell their dying mother’s soul to the devil.
Airing Bachmann “rebuttal” totally obliterates that doubt.
Mr Stagger Lee
Those eyes are creeping me out, like an alien from Star Trek, then again I am playing the Woo Hoo song by the group The 5,6,7,8’s
inkadu
Wow. Fighting the debt crisis is EXACTLY like Iwo Jima combating a totalitarian regime.
She really is scum.
Alex S.
She made me laugh, thanks Michelle.
Omnes Omnibus
Is this really the level at which she functions? Really?
piratedan
@Bob Loblaw: its okay Bob, you can still read your Conservative handbook by candlelight with your AK-47 by your side as you bunker down for the night. The Black Helicopters are parked for the night…but soon my friend, very soon they’ll fly and they know where you ARE thanks to your posts here. heh heh heh
Davis X. Machina
Has there ever been anyone as fortunate in his choice of enemies as Obama?
Loneoak
IWO JIMA = THE DEBT! Best analogy evah.
inkadu
@Gordon, The Big Express Engine: They just can’t stay away from military analogies.
Anne Laurie
Bachman seems to be trying to channel Palin’s weird ee-nuns-SAY-shun patterns. Also, she’s not blinking, but she’s moving her eyebrows to a rhythm that would be blinking in a normal person.
Dems & Independents, once again, tracking pretty much together, mostly in the low 30% favorable. Reps can’t get much above the high 50s, except for spikes when she uses the word ‘repeal’ in whatever context.
Poopyman
OTOH Valerie Jarrett is on MSNBC, and she really rubs me the wrong way. She needs to GTFO my TV.
freelancer
I missed Bachmann. What did I miss?
Karen in GA
@TR: Iwo “Bad Mamma” Jamma, actually. But Pathific, yeth.
Violet
@Clutch414:
Thanks for the reminder. I’d forgotten that other speech.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Davis X. Machina: Not since Bill Clinton
Clutch414
Shorter Erick Erickson: SMALL WORDS GOOD
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
erik erikson and roland martin in an MMA bout. Who wins?
scarshapedstar
Bachmann was staring at something in the upper right corner of the room? I guess they couldn’t afford a real camera-mounted teleprompter.
Comrade Luke
Remind me never to get into legal trouble in New York.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
What?
Seriously.
What?
TR
@Karen in GA:
Thanks. I got caught up on the first one, not expecting the two-for-one deal coming our way.
celticdragonchick
@joe from Lowell:
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy says you should always carry your towel with you. It means you are a real froopy guy…
freelancer
@Loneoak:
The CBO = the SS. No?
GregB
Erick Erickson is calling for simple talk. How’s this?
Erick Erickson is a goat fucking child molester.
TR
@Gordon, The Big Express Engine:
Roland Martin. The only decision in this fight is where to dispose of Erickson’s remains.
Loneoak
@Gordon, The Big Express Engine:
America.
Michael D.
Remember how we used to hate Japan??
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@GregB: Too many syllables.
Fat Erick Fucks Kids.
srv
@lamh32:
A stopped clock is right occassionally. Obama’s anti-Keynesian policies aren’t going to reduce unemployment any better than Morgenthau’s did during FDR.
There comes a point at which you have to own it, blaming Bush isn’t going to work in Nov. 2012.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@freelancer: you missed a speech where she was looking off camera the entire time trying to follow the teleprompter
Comrade Luke
@Davis X. Machina: Obama is the Microsoft of politics
Anne Laurie
@Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen: I heard it as ‘new bright faces’, but mostly it sounded like he was stumbling around getting a brainlock between the stuff he’d practiced in the mirror and his teleprompter scroll. He did seem embarrassed about something.
inkadu
Well, I wish I had the last two hours back.
I’m going to do something more useful now. Like stand on a pillar of 64 cobblestones in Mine Craft and wait out the night.
Poopyman
@Gordon, The Big Express Engine:
It was rolling around the room?
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen: when wolf asked Erik to “weigh in” my wife quipped that we don’t wnat him weighing in on anything…
freelancer
Wow, Omaha’s stupid mayoral recall election down to 2 votes at this point.
Recall Mayor Jim Suttle?
YES: 28,351
NO: 28,349
What a waste. Too bad I couldn’t vote.
Violet
Paul Ryan looks like Eddie Munster.
junebug
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Crap, both of those insults happened in the same SOTU? Somehow I separated them in my mind.
Someone has probably already said this, but at least the “date night” seems to have kept that disrespect at bay. . ..
Elia
Hoo, Lord, that was dull.
I suppose this is what Independents want, however. Politics shouldn’t be about all this disagreement and arguing; let’s focus on the important stuff instead: salmon!
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
Thanks. He probably caught his reflection and realized what a complete dweeb he looks.
Oh well, GOPers tread in it enough so there’s no need to be greedy.
junebug
One person on idiot facebook is claiming Sal Giunta was left on the steps, like a ragdoll.
gbear
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m not watching her but I feel secure in providing the answer to your question.
Yes.
jl
@Elia:
Well, ‘news flash siren alert, developing’ you, buddy.
Instant CBS poll of State of the Union listeners say nine out of ten ‘liked the speech’.
Loneoak
David Axelrod just mocked Bachmann on The Last Word: “David, am I looking at the right camera?”
Atta boy, David.
Bob Loblaw
@piratedan:
Right. So that was a nicely deluded bit of business there, wasn’t it? Well done.
junebug
@Elia:
SMOKED salmon.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@Davis X. Machina: Bugs Bunny and The Road Runner.
Omnes Omnibus
@gbear: Really, I mean, I use more complicated sentences, larger words, and more intricate logic when speaking to toddlers and they understand what is being said.
Loneoak
From NYT, even the Tea Party Express had the brains to not mention Bachmann’s speech that they sponsored:
gbear
@Omnes Omnibus: Yea, but you’re probably thinking while you’re talking. Bachmann just lets it fly.
Elia
Did anyone have a thrill go up their leg once they realized she was going to have to pronounce “Iwo Jima”? There was a really intense, animalistic, primal fear that passed across her face, just briefly, right before she came upon those two clearly socialist words.
I’m really all for more Michele Bachmann national addresses, really. I thought tonight exceeded expectations.
Svensker
Listening to Ari Frigging Fleischer bleat on about how Obama spends too much money and doesn’t create enough jobs — Ari Fleischer — made my blood pressure shoot up. War mongering destroyer of countries aargle barrgle.
The movie was worse than SOTU.
handy
When you’re the Teabaggers useful idiot, how much lower can you get?
JCT
Whoa baby, what a gift to have Bachmann’s dribblings be the Republican’s “final words” on the evening.
Talk about stream of “unconsciousness”. What an idiot.
gbear
@Loneoak:
HAHAHAH! I hope that leaves her even more confused and paranoid than she already is. I’m betting that she spontaneously combusts before 2012.
S. cerevisiae
Kiwis please help me – This place is fucking too crazy. I am sick of having to explain the lunatics in the Arkham Asylum.
May the deep ones eat me first.
I wanna go South.
S. cerevisiae
I missed it – please tell me crazy Shelly looked crazy.
Svensker
@S. cerevisiae:
Just kinda dumb. And she was looking at the wrong camera the whole speech.
keestadoll
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
freelancer
Joe Walsh (R-Illinois): Life’s been good to me so far…
JMY
I wish people would stop acting as if the Tea Party is some reputable movement. They are not (I’m looking at you CNN).
Violet
@S. cerevisiae:
I’m just watching it now. She’s looking off to the side most of the time, which makes her look possessed. Her eyeshadow is too dark and makes her look freakier than normal. The lighting is not at all flattering and she looks like she’s had some very bad plastic surgery. She had charts, plus a weird peach colored chair in front of the American flag.
The whole thing is bizarre. I have no idea what she’s doing.
Cain
Of course anything that makes Wolf look like the stupid tool is absolutely fine with m.e
cain
Violet
Michele Bachmann: “I believe that America is the indispensable nation of the world. Just the creation of this nation itself was a miracle.”
I bet the Romans thought they were indispensable too.
4jkb4ia
I liked Nate’s tweet about how this overshot professorial and went right for cheesy. I read the speech, but spousal unit needed to take a walk after dinner.
Omnes Omnibus
@gbear:That might be it.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@Violet: At least she didn’t claim Jesus was one of the Founding Fathers.
Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)
@Anne Laurie: Are we back to lotr refs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hngy4Im6yYk
BGinCHI
Bachmann reminds me of Karen Black.
That dark eyeshadow painted look.
freelancer
Adam Green, firebagger by any other name, comes on MSNBC with a prepped list of 6 things he doesn’t like. There were a few things that I found objectionable, but this whiny prick finds Democratic politics and political gamesmanship to be a zero sum game.
There’s a reason that Al Qaeda calls themselves Al Qaeda, which means “The Base”. Fuck Adam Green, he doesn’t speak for me.
sistermoon
Oh look – Katherine Harris is back
4jkb4ia
@Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel):
The road goes on forever, and the party never ends. Link not posted in order not to be too obnoxious.
BGinCHI
@freelancer: Actually, “Al Qaeda” means “Adam Green” in Arabic.
Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)
@4jkb4ia: Hmm. I think I like JRR better.
Midnight Marauder
@Violet:
That makes two of you.
4jkb4ia
@Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel):
Understandable. In the ancient days of “Songwriters Showcase” on KDHX the above mentioned song was treated almost as the greatest thing ever written.
CaseyL
Coming in late is a mistake. Y’all drank all the booze, there’s nothing but crumbs left in the chips bowl, and it looks like someone used the party banner for a napkin.
Anyway: I saw the SOTU while on the elliptic at the gym, and I have to say Obama speeches are pretty good to exercise by.
The SOTU wasn’t bad. Since I watched it on C-SPAN, without benefit of talking heads, and without liveblog commentary, I thought it was a good speech. I agree that we need what amounts to a “space race” in terms of education, basic research, and new technology development. It’s an ambitious domestic agenda, that’s for sure, and it’ll be interesting to see how much he follows through on it.
Two things really stood out for me: His call to end oil bidness subsidies, and to replace NCLB. Definitely good ideas; let’s see if either or both happen.
I missed Bachmann’s psychotic word salad – “missed” as in, “refused to watch.” Which is kind of a pity, because it sounds like she was a hoot. Wonder what would happen if someone slipped her some good acid: would anyone notice? Would she suddenly become lucid?
4jkb4ia
And Dave Weigel’s feed was very entertaining. You were there.
Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)
@4jkb4ia: Really? Wow. I can hear it’s a good song for the genre, just not my cup of tea.
FlipYrWhig
Only saw the end of Obama’s speech, thought it was kinda meh. I don’t inspire easily.
Emerald
@djork: You seem to be the only one who noticed that besides me. I thought that was the only huge piece of news in Ryan’s speech.
The Rs have made Ryan the czar of all their financial moves. If he’s decided they’re going to refuse to raise the debt ceiling, then he’s decided to have a world depression. Probably thinks people will blame Obama.
I’m frankly surprised the Rs will go that far, but if they do, then we are in very serious trouble.
burnspbesq
@JGabriel:
That is not just you.
burnspbesq
“Sound money.” Yes, he actually said “sound money.” ‘Bout drove off the side of the freeway when I heard that. What year does this numbskull think it is, 1893?
FlipYrWhig
@burnspbesq: I left the room rather than watching, but from what I heard, he sounded like the classic College Republican douchebag from my own college days in the late ’80s and early ’90s.
Anne Laurie
@sistermoon:
I knew she reminded me of another creepy female Republicant! Good catch!
Wile E. Quixote
@joe from Lowell:
So where does the national debt come in on the Right-Wing Fear-O-Meter relative to the activist gay left? I mean we know, from listening to Andrew Breitbart that the activist gay left is scarier than Al Qaeda but where does the national debt fit in? Is it more scary than Al Qaeda but less scary than the activist gay left, is it more scary than the activist gay left and Al Qaeda? Or is it less scary than Al Qaeda, which means that it’s also less scary than the activist gay left.
“
fucen tarmal
@Wile E. Quixote:
“activist gay left” is just begging to be re/misspelled activest gay left, improper though it may be.
you know how the fundies made peace with the idea of israel, and now they are all about the old testament? i mean they love an israel that might go armageddon at any time. because they can rationalize that it brings about the end times prophesy and the once and for all proof of who wears the nicest hats to church is the person closest to god type thing….
why doesn’t this work for teh gay as well? i mean, theoretically nothing brings on the oldsmitey power of god like teh gay, right, and they want the one final true end smite? seems like they should want things to be as gay as gay can be? i mean if they want to be consistent….
of course really its about breitbart and his type saying, “dude, its ok if you’re gay, just don’t be such a fag about it, you’re making me horn-erp-nervous.” when you say you think its a choice, you are really saying its an option you might consider, because for you it might be a choice.
Ron
@CaseyL: Watching Bachmann was creepy. I could barely focus on what she was saying because of her looking off to the right the whole time.
Ryan Colpaart
I think President Obama’s 2nd ‘State of the Union’ speech describe his core political ideology, while masterfully disarming his critics:
Driving Down the Center Lane on a 3 Lane Highway
Ryan Colpaart
Founder, Editor-In-Chief
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