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Random Thoughts

by WaterGirl|  February 2, 20261:01 pm| 117 Comments

This post is in: Balloon Juice, Mostly Open Thread

If I could title the sidebar pic this morning it would be “hope springs eternal”.

Photo by OzarkHillbilly (2/2/26)

Seeing this image makes me think about Ozark and other friends we have lost.

It feels like we haven’t regained our footing after last summer when the world turned upside down, and we lost two beloved commenters at the same time.   I sometimes think about Amir, and I think he would be disappointed by some of what he would see here these days.  Steeplejack would have shouted “goddammit!” when we started to go out of bounds, and Ozark would help keep us grounded in a way that helps us all.

Steady as she goes, all of them.

efgoldman would be saying “fuckem” but he most definitely wouldn’t be talking about other commenters.

I think we will find our way out of this disaster, but there’s so much damage already, and there will be more.  Still, I believe we will turn a corner and get back to building a better world.

I think it starts with “elbows up” against the enemy out there, and with an extended hand to all the people who are trying to help, not a slap because they are doing it wrong.

“Elbows up” is a great rallying cry for dealing with the ones who are destroying everything.  There will be plenty of time to fight about details once the world stops burning, but infighting saps energy that we all need to dig out of this mess.  I hope we can all get back to remembering who the enemy is, and who it’s not.

I am reminded of what we used to say about the infighting at the University.  You know why the fights are so vicious?  Because the stakes are so small.

Impotent anger and fear has to go somewhere. Is it safer for our anger and rage and frustration to leak out sideways here and elsewhere on the internet than to take the fight to the ones who would be content with eliminating anyone who is the wrong race, wrong color, wrong gender, wrong sexuality, wrong religion, wrong anything?

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Albatrossity linked to a story from Minneapolis this morning that is well worth reading.  I’m so wound up these days that I don’t generally have the patience to get through a long article, but I read this one all the way through.  It’s heartbreaking and inspiring, and I couldn’t look away.

A short excerpt:

Did you hear the one about the St. Paul roofer who was brought to the big public hospital with eight skull fractures and a broken face, and ICE told the nurses he did it himself, running into a brick wall?

All over my neighborhood we keep finding empty cars, the glass shattered into diamonds on the snow, the people missing. Tiny private automotive kristallnachts, everywhere and ongoing.  

I talked to a restaurant owner today who told me he’s six weeks from going under. 

I’ve been hearing stories of people working 100 hours, clocking in as themselves and then ending the shift and immediately clocking in as their co-worker, because the co-worker has to eat and pay rent and the business might close otherwise.  

I know a chef who spends an hour on either side of his work driving all his (legal! not that that matters!) employees to and from work because otherwise…

The people of Minneapolis have it right.  They are banding together.

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Utter distraction…

by Tom Levenson|  November 10, 20253:39 pm| 110 Comments

This post is in: Mostly Open Thread, Music, Respite, Sports

I can’t even with politics today, and I’m solipsistic enough to thinks some of y’all may be in the same state.

So here are a few possible distractions.

For one:  Nature’s news vertical writes up a new study published last week that contains what one of the authors has (perhaps inevitably) described as a “Google Maps for Roman roads.” (Not a gift link…not sure how to do that for Nature; sorry.)

I love this kind of historical research, providing as it does a sudden unexpected angle on fundamental questions:

[Co-author Thomas] Brughmans hopes the data set will “revolutionize our understanding of how people, ideas and infectious diseases” spread 2,000 years ago. “Such insights can be used to better understand the challenges we face today,”

One more factoid:

The map includes nearly 300,000 kilometres of roads existing in around AD 150, when the empire was at its maximum territorial extent.

Utter distraction...

 

Three hundred thousand clicks!!!! (Or klicks, if you are thus inclined.)

No. 2: The New York Football Giants have given literary snarkmeisters everywhere a very early holiday present.  The 2-8 Oversized Gentlemen have just fired their head coach, Brian Daboll. That, of course, is hardly a shocker, or much fun.  But here’s the cherry on top: the new interim head coach is surnamed Kafka.

I can’t think of a better name to be attached to the trials that are surely to come in the remainder of the season. I, for one, do not expect a metamorphosis. Please have enjoy yourselves with this in the comments.

And for one more: I’m really not sure what to make of this performance, but it’s hella fun to be this perplexed:

The thread is open, but I have a plea: nothing about today’s (or last night’s) political drama. Let’s keep this one as absurd as possible.

Image: Canaletto, River Landscape with a Column, a Ruined Roman Arch and Reminiscences of England, before 1768

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There Must Be Other Things To Talk About, Let’s Share Other News Here

by WaterGirl|  November 10, 202512:18 pm| 143 Comments

This post is in: Mostly Open Thread, Politics

I’m tired of all the bickering that will have absolutely no impact on the outcome.

This post is a place to talk about ANYTHING BUT any possible or potential deal related to the shutdown.

Alstroemeria I brought in before the cold snap.

Saturday Evening Open Thread: The Shutdown Tango (Tangle)

I usually get 3 weeks of this glorious burning bush before it fades.

Not sure what the cold snap and the snow will have to say about that 3-week timeframe.

Mostly open thread.

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More Wondering than Substance

by WaterGirl|  October 2, 202510:00 pm| 143 Comments

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So today I got a bag of my favorite gummy bears (Albanese) as a reward because I dropped on the scale to a number that ended in 5.  And I had a deep thought after I started by carefully picking my least favorite colors (orange and grape) so I could save the best flavors for later.  I wondered, does everyone do that?

Whether it’s M&Ms or mixed nuts or fruit flavored gummy bears, do you have a style?  Go for your favorites first? Save your favorites for last?  Or do you truly live on the edge and you just take whatever you get when you grab a handful?

They also had the option of Albanese gummy butterflies – who the hell would want those?  Totally wrong mouth feel! :-)

Another deep question to ponder.  Let’s say you sometimes have before you awesome chocolate chip cookies (or whatever food is a favorite) and sometimes the chocolate chip cookies are just adequate.

So here’s the question.  Do you eat more of the cookies when they are awesome?  Or more when they are just adequate?  Or it makes no difference to you at all?  I may be in the minority on this, but I eat less when they are really awesome, because it takes fewer cookies to satisfy whatever needs to be satisfied.  When they are just adequate, it takes more cookies.  I can eat one incredibly awesome brownie, but if they are just okay, I find myself eating more.  Is that crazy?

Oh, and since it’s already off the front page, here’s the post of the September serenity pics from earlier today in case you missed them.

Taking a Break from the News

Hoping to keep this thread more on the less stressful side since there was so much shitty news today.

 

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What if it all works out?

by WaterGirl|  September 25, 202510:00 am| 127 Comments

This post is in: Mostly Open Thread, Open Threads

Do You Have 3 Minutes to watch something I think is key to our success?

I know some of you guys aren’t fond of video and might prefer text, but it’s only 3 minutes!

I’m gonna ask all of you to spare 3 minutes to watch the first 3 minutes of this video.  There is more after that that’s still good, but the challenge to each of us is in the first 3 minutes.

Anyway, this has been tonight’s installment of “let’s have a thread that’s more positive than negative”.

Reminder: Cole’s big day is tomorrow TODAY.  If you haven’t RSVP’d, it’s not too late.  Send me email and I’ll send you the zoom link.

Mostly open thread!

Update: I wrote this thread for posting last night, and then waited until today.

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Is This What They Thought They Were Voting For?

by WaterGirl|  September 22, 202512:48 pm| 230 Comments

This post is in: Mostly Open Thread, Politics

Some of them voted for hate.  Some voted the way they did because women should know their place. Some voted because of immigration fears.  Some voted because the way they did because they aren’t very smart. Some voted because they are petty and insecure and wanted protection from those scary people who aren’t white.  Some voted for cheaper egg prices.

And maybe they are getting some of what they wanted. But like the greedy bastard he is, they are also getting a whole lot of stuff they didn’t vote for, and some of them are getting it good and hard.  You can only deny reality for so long and then reality wins.

Dan Pfeiffer

We are living in dangerously absurd times, and it can be easy to lose perspective. The full breadth of Trump’s assault on democracy over the last nine months is hard to process because we all believed for so long that such things could never happen here. There’s a poverty of imagination about the real dangers, and therefore a tendency to normalize the abnormal — to cover this as just more “Trumpian politics.”

But the Trump Administration pressuring a major media company to suspend a comedian because they disliked his commentary is far from normal. As Jim Rutenberg wrote in the New York Times:

“[Trump] is now conducting the most punishing government crackdown against major American media institutions in modern times, using what seems like every tool at his disposal to eradicate reporting and commentary with which he disagrees.”

Kimmel is the beginning, not the end, of this censorship campaign. Brendan Carr, the FCC Director, suggested on Thursday that he wanted to go after The View, and Trump threatened late-night hosts Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers. All of this comes on top of a larger effort to punish anyone critical of Charlie Kirk in the wake of his murder. Pete Hegseth has people combing through the social media of troops, and JD Vance urged the public to turn in anyone who is insufficiently mournful of Charlie Kirk to their employers.

Trump has, of course, done innumerable bad things since taking office. Some have no political purchase with the public. Others have broken through and hurt his political standing. I believe Trump could pay a steep price for this hyper-aggressive government censorship campaign. If — and when — Democrats win back the House next year, the GOP will look back at their weaponization of Charlie Kirk’s murder with great regret.

Here’s why.

Kimmel + Kirk Is a Major Story

The best way to understand politics in our fractured media ecosystem is that each side has a group of hyper-engaged partisans who aggressively follow every twist and turn, while the rest of the country has largely opted out of political news. Most of the things you and I obsess over never cross the transom of the less engaged, so they don’t move the poll numbers. There are, however, a handful of moments so significant or viral that they break out of the political news bubble. Thus far, the tariffs, the illegal deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and the Epstein files have all truly broken through to the larger public. You can almost match declines in Trump’s approval to those moments.

The Kirk assassination and Kimmel’s suspension are huge stories. According to data from What’s Resonating, content about Kimmel, Kirk, and freedom of speechis receiving by far the most engagement.

Losing the Mano-sphere Influencers

One of the keys to Trump’s successful campaign was the support of a set of podcasters, YouTubers, TikTokers, and influencers with large audiences of young men. For this group, freedom of speech and hostility toward so-called “cancel culture” were major reasons to support Trump.

Now this group is particularly exercised about the administration’s crackdown on speech. Tim Dillon, Dave Smith, Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, and several Barstool Sports personalities have criticized Trump for violating his promises to end government censorship.

Trump was already on thin ice with them over his refusal to release the Epstein files. Without the support of these highly influential voices, he loses a gateway to the young men who helped him win the election. Even worse for Trump, he is already bleeding support among young men. According to pollster John Della Volpe:

“Since Mr. Trump took office in January, his approval ratings among men under 30 have fallen by 29 percentage points on the issue of inflation, 25 points on jobs, and 21 points on the economy. Yet those losses don’t automatically translate into Democratic gains, because many of these men still see Democrats as weak, ineffective, and unresponsive.”

Hard to fix that problem when the people with the most influence over young men think you are assaulting free speech and covering up a relationship with a notorious child sex trafficker.

Speaking of influencers…

Love the age of influencers or hate the age of influencers, they aren’t going anywhere.  And they have a big influence on young voters that we very much need in order to win.

I’ll be sharing some information related to influencers using their power and influence – for good – in Virginia.  You can look for that in a week or so.

In the meantime, if we can skip the re-litigating of the past for this discussion, it will be much appreciated.

There’s a quote that I keep on my refrigerator.

The past is the past; it’s what we do now that matters.

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For a day when just one isn’t enough…

by WaterGirl|  September 17, 20259:27 pm| 49 Comments

This post is in: Mostly Open Thread

I have no words for the news of the day.

All I’ll say is that after today, I think we need two of these.

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Even Henry is pissed about everything that’s happening.  That’s all we’ll say about that.

No talk of The Horrors, please.

Henry Would Like His Lunch Right Now, Please

Bonus happy Henry.  Because we probably all need him.

Okay, maybe a yawning Henry, in the hopes that maybe we can yawn, too and perhaps even get some sleep.

Mostly open thread.

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