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King of New York

by DougJ|  May 17, 20091:03 pm| 73 Comments

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Once again, I didn’t watch the Sunday morning shows, but based on the line up, I’m sure John is right. Believe it or not, Peter King is considered the front-runner to be the Republican nominee for the New York State Senate in 2010. Kirsten Gillibrand is quaking in her boots, as you might expect.

In the interest of post-preservation, I’m passing on two notes not really connected with this anyway. Number one, I emailed my sister the Rumsfeld prayer cards and she emailed back, saying

Is that real, or is it like a Wonkette joke?

Number two, I heartily recommend Jim Hoagland’s piece on the detainee photos, which actually dares to speak sensibly about the issue, asserting that Obama probably has good reason to oppose their release, but that he’s wrong about it (up to a point).

Update. Those of you not from New York State might not be aware of what a jack ass Peter King is. Here’s some of his finest work, from 2006:

As we go through the city of Baghdad, it was like being in Manhattan. I mean, I’m talking about bumper to bumper traffic, talking about shopping centers, talking about restaurants, talking about video stores, talking about guys selling (inaudible) on the street corner, talking about major hotels.

I think that compares favorably with the best of Bachmann’s and Steele’s oeuvre.

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Open Thread

by John Cole|  May 17, 200911:31 am| 98 Comments

This post is in: Media, Open Threads

The Sunday shows were worse than normal. Face the Nation was a half hour of Peter King smearing the ACLU as hating America, and after about twenty minutes of that I said to hell with it when they started talking about SCOTUS picks, and the moderator said, and I quote, “Isn’t empathy just code for an activist judge?”

I just give up.

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Open Thread

by John Cole|  May 16, 20094:18 pm| 68 Comments

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Just got off the phone with an old buddy from undergrad (prolly the best left-handed long-stick d player I ever played with) who I hadn’t talked to for years. Had some good laughs, and both of us wondered how we had not died on several occassions. Good times.

Also, at what point did HBO become AARP approved- every channel is something about alzheimers or a rerun of Grey Gardens. If I see a show about corns or liver spots and I am dropping that channel.

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Rush, like Newt, is wasted on the young

by DougJ|  May 16, 200911:20 am| 106 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

The always excellent Ron Brownstein has two important pieces about big picture politics: one about Obama solidifying the youth vote, and another about how business is cutting deals with the Obama administration on energy and health care. This post will be about the youth vote. Here’s some key points:

The enormous advantage among young people for Obama in particular and Democrats in general matters for two reasons. The more immediate is that this generation, which is generally defined as the 93 million people born between 1983 and 2002, will comprise a rapidly increasing share of voters through the next decade. Hais and his co-author, Morley Winograd, also an NDN fellow, have calculated that in 2008, 41% of Millennials were eligible to vote, and they constituted 17% of the electorate. They project that by 2012, 61% of the Millennials will be eligible, and they’ll comprise 24% of the electorate; by 2016, the numbers will reach 80% and 30%. By 2020, virtually all of them will be eligible and they could constitute as much as 36% of all voters. If Obama maintains anything near his current strength among Millennials, they will produce a substantially larger vote surplus for him in 2012 than they did in 2008-leaving Republicans a larger deficit to overcome with older voters.

Obama’s strength among young people has a second, even more significant, implication: if Republicans cannot reverse it reasonably soon, it could harden into a lasting preference for Democrats in this huge
generation….

[…..]

Winograd and Hais believe Republicans can’t do much to detach young voters from Obama if the president is seen as succeeding. In Millennial Makeover, they argue that many of this generation’s formative experiences-their diversity, their tolerance of difference, and the patterns of parenting that inclined them to find collective “win-win” solutions-already inclined them toward Democratic beliefs.

As if on cue, a younger commenter writes:

As a member of the younger generation and a (former) Republican voter (now a registered Libertarian), I can give a few reasons why us younger folks don’t care much for Republicans:
1. We don’t care if people are gay. If my neighbors had been gay when I was growing up, it wouldn’t have had any impact on me, nor would it have been any of my business. The anti-gay rhetoric comes across as bigotry to our ears.
2. We chaffe at the ‘whiteness’ of the Republican party. Whether or not this is true in the hearts of Republicans, they simply don’t come across in public as caring for non-whites, nor do they seem to make an effor to reach out to non-whites. Reach out to minorities, and voters will reach out to you.
3. Kids my age don’t understand economics because it isn’t taught in schools, parents don’t teach it, and colleges only marginally teach it. Therefore, we don’t have a clue how trillion dollar deficits will impact us down the road.
4. They put up fossils as candidates.

More and more, I think that hating on gays, immigrants, and non-French’s mustard is a killer for Republicans. People under 30 just don’t want to be associated with that, for the most part, even if they agree with some of the Republican economic kookiness. Jon Hunstman is certainly smart to move to a more liberal position on gay marriage. But I think this may go even deeper than that.

In 2004, one Democratic candidate really energized younger voters: Howard Dean. The Democratic made him chair of the DNC. IN 2008, one Republican candidate really energized younger voters: Ron Paul. The Republican party treats him like a pariah. Yes, Paul is an anti-Semite whose economic ideas, if implemented, would lead to a second Great Depression or worse. But he’s certainly no crazier than most House Republicans. There’s got to be some way for the Republican party to tap into the energy and fundraising prowess of the Paultards.

Much has been made of the fact for the past week, Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh dominated the air waves. This has been described (correctly) as a public relations fiasco for Republicans. Newt’s a relic from another era and the average Rush listener is in his 60s. What’s easy to forget is that when Rush first came on the scene, he was seen as a bit hip and edgy with his Pretenders’ theme song and what not. There was a whole rock n’ roll Republican thing going there for a while, with Bill Bennett’s supposed date with Janis Joplin and Lee Atwater’s blues stylings. It was a far cry from “Let the Eagle Soar.”

What I wonder is if there are a few sensible yet extreme (by current standards) positions Republicans could stake out to make themselves look less fossilized. The Democrats aren’t showing much interest in legalizing marijuana for example. Could Republicans support legalizing marijuana without pissing off social conservatives too much? There are probably hosts of other issues along these lines as well. I wonder if people like Haley Barbour are thinking about this sort of thing.

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Open Thread

by John Cole|  May 15, 20096:23 pm| 231 Comments

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Somehow or another, Friday sneaked up on me again.

Here is a thread to celebrate.

*** Update ***

Decisions: Star Trek because I’m dying to see it, or Angels and Demons, which I really don’t care much about, but it might make that insufferable prick William Donohue cry. I’m petty and shallow, so this is a much closer call than you might think.

*** Update #2 ***

ZOMG! It is the one year anniversary of the Whitey Tape! And while Dave Weigel taunts Larry Johnson, I should remind you that I actually delivered the Whitey Tape for you, my faithful readers:

The truth is out there!

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Peet’s Coffee

by John Cole|  May 15, 20093:42 pm| 161 Comments

This post is in: Cooking, Open Threads

I’m now addicted.

It is in no way, shape, or form, is a “mild-medium” general purpose coffee like I asked when I was soliciting advice a while back, and, in fact, I think one step up from the Peet’s French Roast is some flavored version of JP-8, but after the shock of the first sip (initial reaction: “MY GOD- MY COMMENTERS WANT ME TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK”), I can’t drink anything else.

Plus, it makes my house smell amazing.

Also, the shaking stops after about twenty minutes.

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Pirates of the Mediterranean

by DougJ|  May 15, 20092:56 pm| 60 Comments

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A classicist friend sent me this from the Times online:

By the early 60s BC, pirates had become such a menace to Mediterranean shipping that in 67 Rome gave Pompey a “special command” and vast resources to try to get rid of them. It was great opportunity for this general ‘on the make’ to demonstrate his military genius. So he divided the sea into separate operational regions and, using loyal subordinate officers, he swept the pirates off the waters in just a few months.

But Pompey was smart enough to realise that, unless they were given some other form of livelihood, they would soon be back. (This is basically the Afghanistan problem: if they don’t make their money out of the poppy crop how ARE they going to survive.) So in a wonderful, early ‘resettlement of offenders’ initiative he offered the pirates small-holdings near the coast, where they could make an honest living for themselves.

I’m not saying that something like this is the right solution to the current pirate problem, but can you imagine what would happen if an American president did attempt this approach? President sends pirates candy and flowers. We are all pirate ransomees now. This is Munich all over again. A Churchillian never would have done this.

I’ve always been struck by the pragmatism of ancient Rome. I have to believe that a practical approach to governing (do whatever you want as long as you pay your taxes) may have been part of what allowed the empire to last as long as it did. I don’t think they would have lasted as long if they’d adopted a Freedom Agenda or tried to convert conquered peoples to some crackpot religion.

Update. The first comment there is a classic:

This is hogwash! What the pirates feared was torture and death. This was exactly what Pompey and Caesar used to clean up the Middle Sea.

Update #2.Commenter CapMidnight writes:

We could give the pirates free boat rides to the places with the off-shore corporate tax havens.

This reminds me of my favorite joke headline of all time:

Somali Pirates in Discussions to Acquire Citigroup

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