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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2008 / McCain: Revealed

McCain: Revealed

by Michael D.|  August 20, 20087:50 pm| 93 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008, Mainstream Media's McCain Mancrush

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Don’t know if anyone besides me is watching CNN’s, McCain: Revealed. But it’s been on for almost an hour now, and it’s a McCain campaign commercial. That’s what it is. Hero. Hero. Hero. “I take responsibility for my marriage break-up.” Hero. Hero. Hero.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Next on CNN – Obama: Revealed. Scary, black, baby killer.

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  1. 1.

    Dug Jay

    August 20, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Poor, little, depressed Michael. CNN pushes Obama 24/7. BIOYA.

  2. 2.

    Delia

    August 20, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Did you know know that John McCain was a POW? Yes, he was. And his Vietnamese guard drew a cross in the sand with his toe and it’s very inspiring, especially the sixtieth time you’ve heard St. McCain tell the story.

  3. 3.

    DannyNoonan

    August 20, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    C-N-N?

  4. 4.

    Davis X. Machina

    August 20, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    They’ll carry his mavericky corpse over the finish line if it comes to that. In America, you can change the government, but you can’t change The Narrative.

    On the tombstone of the Republic will be the epitaph “Killed By A Story Arc”.

  5. 5.

    myiq2xu

    August 20, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Junk, meet boot.

  6. 6.

    Sleeper

    August 20, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    It’s hard to believe myiq2xu would show up to gloat that his candidate is gaining in the polls. Who could have foreseen that.

  7. 7.

    gil mann

    August 20, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Rat, meet fuck.

  8. 8.

    JL

    August 20, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    Dug Jay Says:

    Poor, little, depressed Michael. CNN pushes Obama 24/7. BIOYA.

    Repeating repub talking points which is what CNN has done is not exactly the type of coverage, Obama might like. Actually repub talking points are in no ones interest. We have already endured the last eight years and I don’t think our country can survive another eight.

  9. 9.

    JenJen

    August 20, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Suzanne Malveaux just told me that SeeEnnEnn has officially confirmed that Obama’s public grade school in Indonesia was NOT a Muslim school.

    Well, that settles that!

    As an aside, why does Sooz-Anne pronounce her name Sooz-On? Can someone tell her that her Kappa Delta Phi days are behind her now?

  10. 10.

    myiq2xu

    August 20, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    It’s hard to believe myiq2xu would show up to gloat that his candidate is gaining in the polls.

    Hillary isn’t gaining, she’s held a steady lead for months.

  11. 11.

    mapaghimagsik

    August 20, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Throughout America, wingnuts are watching it, snorting cheeto dust and having wingasms.

  12. 12.

    AkaDad

    August 20, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    This race wouldn’t be so tight if Hillary kept her promise of doing everything she could to get Obama elected.

  13. 13.

    Sleeper

    August 20, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    Hillary isn’t gaining, she’s held a steady lead for months.

    Sorry, I meant in this continuum. Parallel dimensions where Clinton won the nomination don’t count. I was referring to your cheerleading for John McCain.

  14. 14.

    Ripley

    August 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Wait a minute… McCain’s not a hero!

    (You just read it on the internets, so it’s true!)

    And, not to blog whore, but I just de-heroed McCain. Just because…

    I don’t like the man.

  15. 15.

    Alan

    August 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    It’s all a setup for Hillary to take the super delegates. They have to switch their votes. Otherwise McCain wins.

  16. 16.

    Sleeper

    August 20, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    This race wouldn’t be so tight if Hillary kept her promise of doing everything she could to get Obama elected.

    This was probably snark, but if it was sincere, then it was sincerely wrong. Obama and his campaign are responsible for their victories and setbacks alike. When he slips in the polls, it’s his fault.

  17. 17.

    jake

    August 20, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    OMG, they only called it “John McCain: Revealed”*? It should be “John POW McCain: Super POW extraordinaire. Let us all kneel and worship the all POWerful McCain!”

    Those POW haters.

    *If that title isn’t a stomach-churner I don’t know what is.

  18. 18.

    A.Political

    August 20, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Sleeper Says:

    It’s hard to believe myiq2xu would show up to gloat that his candidate is gaining in the polls. Who could have foreseen that.

    =====

    Noooo, you’re saying McCain was his candidate, not Hillary? Never would have thunk it. hohohoho

  19. 19.

    cleek

    August 20, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    umm…. why feed the troll ?

  20. 20.

    Laura W

    August 20, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Have I mentioned in the last hour that I once wore one of these?
    Sure wish I’d have kept it, but what teenager could foresee that the summer of her 50th year would bring such, um… whatever this summer has brought us.
    Heroes!

  21. 21.

    Conservatively Liberal

    August 20, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    It’s all a setup for Hillary to take the super delegates. They have to switch their votes. Otherwise McCain wins.

    I saw a post at The Field that linked to a post at Alegre’s Corner where they are hard at work to contact the delegates to try and convince them to overturn the results of the primary. I read a few of the posts there and they are in full-on delusion mode. Nuts like these are going to be doing everything they can to disrupt the convention, and they are crazy enough to try anything to get their faces in the news and their voices on the air. It seems that they are upset because Gallup stopped polling regarding Hillary because Gallup said the results were less than 1%. Of course, the PUMA’s at Alegre’s Corner know that is false!

    There will be shit flying at the convention because they are intent on making it fly, but how much it is remains to be seen. But there will be disruptions, no doubt about it. They know this is their last chance, and you can bet that they are going all in on this bet. The only good point in this is that the repubs have the Barr and Paul people peeling votes away from McCain. They have two headaches while we only have one to deal with.

  22. 22.

    Church Lady

    August 20, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    I know someone who also pronounces her name Sooz-On, and is very, very quick to correct anyone mispronouncing it. I don’t know… maybe it’s some sort of French pronunciation. Whatever, it sounds snotty that way.

  23. 23.

    AkaDad

    August 20, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Sleeper,

    Can you give me some examples of Hillary doing everything in her power to get Obama elected?

    Since she lost, I’ve seen her once or twice in public.

  24. 24.

    Joshua Norton

    August 20, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Don’t know if anyone besides me is watching CNN’s, McCain: Revealed.

    What on earth for? That’s right up there with hitting yourself on the head with a hammer because it feels so good when you stop.

  25. 25.

    Doug H. (Fausto no more)

    August 20, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    umm…. why feed the troll ?

    Its fun to see just how far into the abyss he’s fallen.

  26. 26.

    harlana pepper

    August 20, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    How did you sit through it?

  27. 27.

    pdf

    August 20, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Y’know…on Monday and Tuesday nights Fox News ran one-hour documentaries on Obama and McCain called “Character and Conduct.” I watched the Obama one, just waiting for them to launch into insane Hannity/Corsi-esque ravings.

    It never happened. They went through his life chronologically, and every time they got to something you thought they’d jump all over, they didn’t. They talked about Tony Rezko and said “There is absolutely no evidence Obama did anything illegal.” They didn’t talk about Bill Ayers at all. Michelle Obama’s Princeton thesis? Not mentioned. Reverend Wright? Obviously, yes, but quick and clean. The Muslim school? “It was common practice to list the father’s last name and religion.” And they quoted Obama’s own website asserting his Christianity.

    I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. It was, literally, fair and balanced.

    I watched some chunks of the McCain one, too – not as much, obviously, because I wouldn’t vote for that half-dead fuckbrain if you put a gun to my head. But they hit him on the Keating Five stuff, and on his first marriage, right down to the quote from Wife #1 about how he came home wanting to be 25. They even had a reporter from the Arizona Republic on (a lot of McCain’s hometown press folks hate his guts).

    The bloviators are all McCain-worship all the time, but I think the news division (read: Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes) may have decided Obama’s gonna win this thing, and are playing nice here and there.

  28. 28.

    Alan

    August 20, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Laura, did you have John McCains?

    I was too young; but my brother had one. And he was lucky enough to be able to give it the gentleman when he was released.

  29. 29.

    LiberalTarian

    August 20, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    I am SO glad Leiberman is talking at the RNC convention. Punish the GOP with that voice and that creepy demeanor. Please, please, please let him be the GOP VP pick.

    *God forbid that horrid duo would win the election. Ugh. Leiberman’s voice even more on talkshows. Ew. I just threw up a little.*

  30. 30.

    gbear

    August 20, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    I live a mile from the republican convention and I hope that we survive the vortex that will be created by having Leiberman, Bush and Cheney all in town on the same day. I wouldn’t be surprised if it rains frogs that day.

  31. 31.

    Sleeper

    August 20, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    AkaDad Says:

    Sleeper,

    Can you give me some examples of Hillary doing everything in her power to get Obama elected?

    Since she lost, I’ve seen her once or twice in public.

    Of course I haven’t seen her do this. And she doesn’t have to lift a finger. She is not the nominee and most likely will not be on the ticket.

    Hillary Clinton is under no obligation to go all-out to get Obama in office. If she wants to risk taking the blame for a narrow McCain win and destroy her political career, that’s her look-out. We can’t be blaming her or her ridiculous PUMA deadenders for Obama’s faltering in recent polls. One of the surest rebuttals for the Clinton argument that she was derailed by sexism and media hatred was, “Well, if she can’t find a way to counter that, why should we nominate her? Who wants a nominee who can’t get the media to like her?”

    Same goes for Obama. I don’t care if the Clinton Ba’athists are so utterly narcissistic and short-sighted that they’ll cheerfully tear their own party down; that’s a given. He’s the nominee, which means he takes on the responsibility of uniting and rallying the party and winning the damn election.

    There’s too much of this thinking going on lately, both in the blogosphere and the campaign. “McCain violated the cone of silence and that’s not fair.” Gee, who could believe it. And Obama saying both he and McCain are patriots and McCain should stop questioning his patriotism…come on. McCain is your enemy, man, of course he’s going to lie and smear and attack you. He’s a son of a bitch. Get with the program here. Don’t ask him to pull his punches, or try to work the ref by pointing out cheap shots. Hit him back twice as fucking hard.

    I don’t care if Clinton is rightfully to blame for her negative campaigning, or for neglecting to deliver her people. I don’t want to be able to justifiably point my finger at her in the aftermath of an Obama loss; I want that kind of post-mortem to be unnecessary. If Obama can’t make her work her ass off for him, then that’s his fault. He’s the nominee.

  32. 32.

    Xanthippas

    August 20, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Hit him back twice as fucking hard.

    I think they may be getting started on that.

  33. 33.

    Ed Marshall

    August 20, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Obama is gonna fucking win. You all need to knock this shit off. If you feel shitty about some August polling, go get your ass involved and start knocking doors. You’ll be joining an army unlike anything U.S. politics has ever seen.

    Your opposition is a massively depressed, unsold, unmanned, skeleton operation of Republicans for McCain. There is a game plan here and this sort of weeping helplessness makes me want to puke.

  34. 34.

    Sleeper

    August 20, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    I think they may be getting started on that.

    I saw that. Not bad for an opener, I guess.

    I am hoping that the recent McCain blitzkrieg is due to him having to burn off all his cash before he’s nominated in two weeks and accepts his public financing. Maybe after that the money advantage will shift back towards Obama, assuming he can maintain his $50 million + per month, which seems a reasonable assumption. If he can push that up to $60 million per month, that would give him about a $40-50 million advantage during the general.

    It’s far from over, but this week should be a wakeup call.

  35. 35.

    w vincentz

    August 20, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    I came across a good site today…UnfitMcCain. Google it and take a look.

  36. 36.

    Joshua Norton

    August 20, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    I am SO glad Leiberman is talking at the RNC convention.

    Rumor hazzit that it will be Repub VP Nominee Lie-berman.

  37. 37.

    Sleeper

    August 20, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Rumor hazzit that it will be Repub VP Nominee Lie-berman.

    I hope McCain is this stupid. Picking Lieberman, or Tom Ridge for that matter, would make the anti-choicers go berserk. This might actually drive a lot of them to vote for Barr, or stay home.

  38. 38.

    TenguPhule

    August 20, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    McCain: Revealed

    Did they show the bit where he admitted he surrendered to the Commies after a little torture? Real manly wingnuts know that it’s just like dorm hazing.

    Or how about the part he dumped the wife who waited for him to come home?

    Or that little scandal where he took bribes for favors?

  39. 39.

    Ed Marshall

    August 20, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    I came across a good site today…UnfitMcCain. Google it and take a look.

    You know what’s funny, I ran across that via thepoorman and just sort of dismissed that guy as a kook.

    A couple weeks later my dad started in on McCain with almost the same angle. He was a USMC crew chief in Vietnam and his take was more like: Yes, your life is worthless, but that bird you took up isn’t and you don’t fuck around and get shot down. If radar lights you up, you leave, you don’t prima donna and get shot down and if you do get shot down, code of conduct says you evade capture at the expense of your life. After you acted like an asshole, and didn’t do what you were supposed to and save the million dollar aircraft, you don’t surrender to the first gook you see with an ak-47, you kill him and you kill the next one until you get back to South Vietnam. If all else fails you don’t get to make up new rules on the fly like “Well, it’s old information anyway”, it’s name rank and serial number.

    This was a Reagan democrat and a Bush 2000 supporter. He does not read thepoorman.net. There is an audience to be mined there.

  40. 40.

    w vincentz

    August 20, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    @ Ed M,
    I liked the page that tells about the real POW story. Kinda blows his myth out of the water.

    Also, on a side note, the LA Times reposts that Obama is running “negative” ads in 18 states. The ads note McCain’s failure to protect jobs, favoritism for oil companies, and ignoring the economic suffering of working-class Americans.
    It’s about time obama started hitting back. Now he should “frame” McCain as much as the old guy did to him.

  41. 41.

    Liberal Masochist

    August 20, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    What Ed Marshall said! It is August and the conventions are still to come. After the killer ground game and overall primary campaign that Obama ran, do we really think we are not going to see more of the same when this gets inside 60 days?

    I can’t wait for the GOP convention. I think they will find it impossible to not trot out the same intellectually threadbare shit. People in this country are hurting and when they see the same family values/the D’s will raise your taxes crap, it will be obvious what a listless ship they are running.

    Everyone chill and enjoy what’s left of the summer.

  42. 42.

    Church Lady

    August 20, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Prefacing my lousy two cents with the admission that I am not particularly a fan of the MUP, but also don’t want to see a McCain administration coming in in 2009, I do see some problems arising for Obama, almost completely coming from his background.

    It seems like what most of us know about him is only what he and his campaign want us to know. McCain has been around forever and most of his history is well known. Obama, not so much. Everyone knows his history from his perspective – after all, he’s already written two autobiographies. As far as objective journalism and investigative reporting, he’s only been in politics for a little over ten years, and most of that was as an unknown Illinois state legislator. He wasn’t exactly on the national radar for most of those years.

    Where I do find myself apprehensive about his background and it’s effect of the election is the things that seem to be drip, drip, dripping out lately. First, this thing about the Born Alive Act in Illinois for starters. From what I’ve read, his campaign’s story concerning his vote has changed a number of times. Then, the brouhaha that is now circulating about the Chicago Annenberg Challange papers. Now, it turns out that the Italian issue of Vanity Fair has found one of his step-brothers living in abject poverty in some tiny shack in Africa. After his stint at Saddleback, talking about America’s moral failure to help our least fortunate, this is just a RNC ad waiting to happen.

    Also, I think his relationship with William Ayres is going to explode. At the debate where he was asked about it, he said that Ayres was just some guy that lived in his neighborhood. Ooops – turns out he sat on a few boards with Ayres for a number of years. I think that indicates he knows him just a little better than as some guy who just happens to live in his neighborhood.

    It seems to me that all of these things are attack ads just waiting to happen. Given that the American electorate just doesn’t know Obama all that well, negative ads concerning these issues probably won’t be a very good introduction.

    Does anyone else see it like this?

  43. 43.

    Ed Marshall

    August 20, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    Ooops – turns out he sat on a few boards with Ayres for a number of years.

    Go for it. Everyone in Chicago *knows* Ayres. He’s an old boomer that had stupid ideas that never hurt anyone on a wierd crusade to “bring the war home” while constraining himself to bombing inanimate objects that he tried to make sure were clear of people.

    Daley knows Ayres. You really think they are going to fuck with him? Get John McCain and Daley in a room together and start this subject up. John would shit a brick.

  44. 44.

    bago

    August 20, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    How did you sit through it?

    Probably by being hammered.

  45. 45.

    Ed Marshall

    August 20, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    For that matter, I’ve seen Don Manzullo and Ayers at events together. It just doesn’t work.

  46. 46.

    Brachiator

    August 21, 2008 at 12:07 am

    Church Lady Says:

    Prefacing my lousy two cents with the admission that I am not particularly a fan of the MUP, but also don’t want to see a McCain administration coming in in 2009, I do see some problems arising for Obama, almost completely coming from his background.

    Does anyone else see it like this?

    In a word, no.

    This is little more than trolling at its finest.

    Everything we know about McCain is bad. We know that the Straight Talker has abandoned all his principles and embraced Republicans he absolutely despises in a craven attempt to win the presidency.

    We know that this near-failure of the Naval Academy doesn’t know jack about foreign policy except what Joe Lieberman whispers in his ear, and that the only thing he knows about military strategy and tactics is to shout “surge” incessantly. This fools some of the people some of the time.

    We know by his own admission that McCain doesn’t know jack about the economy, and that apparently his solution to a looming recession is to put America up for sale on Ebay.

    McCain, like Dubya, is simply too incompetent to be elected president. Worse, he is an ill-tempered wrinkly old dude likely to push us into a war with Russia.

    And unlike Iraq, Russia does have WMDs.

    On the other hand, anyone who says that they don’t know anything about Obama is just being willfully ignorant. Or, which is much the same thing, they depend upon Fox News and Republican talking points for their only source of news.

    So let’s see. The Republicans are going to come out with attack ads. And the sky is blue and grass is green. News at 11.

  47. 47.

    Martin

    August 21, 2008 at 12:08 am

    Ooops – turns out he sat on a few boards with Ayres for a number of years.

    Heh. I do the equivalent with a number of billionaire entrepreneurs. Two of them were recently indicted for various things. Truth is, I really don’t know shit about them. Sure, I can hit them up for tickets to something, but that’s about it.

    Pertaining to matters inside the room, I know them pretty well – in that I can anticipate their opinion on something, but outside of the room? They’re virtually strangers.

    Imagine how well most people know the CEO of their company or their kid’s principal. Yeah, they might have a periodically interactive relationship, but if it’s related to a specific task, you really only know where they intersect with that task.

    In the specific case of Ayers, I know a number of people that know him professionally. Lots of people do. Doesn’t mean jack.

  48. 48.

    jbarntt

    August 21, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Hi Michael D,

    Don’t know if anyone besides me is watching CNN’s, McCain: Revealed. But it’s been on for almost an hour now, and it’s a McCain campaign commercial. That’s what it is. Hero. Hero. Hero. “I take responsibility for my marriage break-up.” Hero. Hero. Hero.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    Next on CNN – Obama: Revealed. Scary, black, baby killer.

    Interesting that McCain could buy an hour of time on CNN. I don’t have cable, so can’t watch it. I agree that the Hero thing is overblown, nonetheless, community organizer vs. jet pilot/aircraft carrier/POW does tend to mitigate in McCain’s favor and make Obama seem a bit small.

    The baby killer thing is bizarre, why Obama would vote to kill a live baby from a failed abortion attempt is odd. What his being black has to do with it I don’t know. Better explanation would probably be his extreme liberalism.

    Anyway the McCain ad should be available on his website, so I’m going there now to check it out. Probably won’t be able able to watch it all, as I have a bottom end DSL connection and an hour long video is a lot of bandwidth.

  49. 49.

    Conservatively Liberal

    August 21, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Does anyone else see it like this?

    Simply put, no. My focus is on McCain, not Obama. I will leave Obama to do as Obama has to do. Nothing I say or worry about will make one whit of difference. Just talking about any concerns regarding what the right may do is detrimental to Obama because it provides a place for a meme to get started or fed.

    Obama won the primary, and it is up to him and his supporters to win the general. That is no different for the other side, but we already know that there is no level too low that they will stoop to in their bid to win. This is normal (for them) and to be expected. To sit around and hand-wring over what the right might do is almost as worthless as Bu$h and his cronies wringing their hands over the endless possibilities of how Saddam could attack us.

    There is nothing we can do about anything that they right does until they do it. Until then, everything is a theoretical, a possibility. I don’t waste my time with that because it is above my pay grade as an Obama supporter. The attacks will be addressed as they arise, and they will be addressed by Obama, his campaign, the party, high-visibility politicians, netroots groups and Obama’s supporters. The higher level the attack is dealt with at, the better chance Obama has of negating it.

    It is up to his campaign to pull this off, and I am sure that they are gaming up all kinds of scenarios and tangents that may need to be addressed if they right hits them with it. All Obama supporters can do is to build support and keep that support high. The rest is up to Obama, and both his campaign and himself have been shown to be fairly competent in their rebuttals and counter-attacks.

    For the supporters, why waste time talking about Obama worries when there is an enemy to defeat? You don’t win by focusing on your candidate’s problems. You win by aiming at and hitting the target. McCain is our target.

  50. 50.

    Sleeper

    August 21, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Anyway the McCain ad should be available on his website, so I’m going there now to check it out. Probably won’t be able able to watch it all, as I have a bottom end DSL connection and an hour long video is a lot of bandwidth.

    Well, hang in there. McCain has promised that increasing America’s sadly neglected telegraphy lines will be a top priority for his administration.

    Don’t forget to send McCain your monthly donation, or else you won’t get your autographed daguerrotype via Pony Express.

  51. 51.

    jbarntt

    August 21, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Hi Michael D.,

    You said:

    Don’t know if anyone besides me is watching CNN’s, McCain: Revealed. But it’s been on for almost an hour now, and it’s a McCain campaign commercial. That’s what it is.

    Well as per my previous post, I went to the McCain website and couldn’t find the McCain campaign commercial you reference. I suppose it’s possible he wouldn’t post it, but it does seem odd.

    Can you give us a citation for this ad on the internet ? It would seem odd that McCain would buy an hour of time on CNN and not reference it on his website.

  52. 52.

    Frank Jacobs

    August 21, 2008 at 12:32 am

    It would seem odd that McCain would buy an hour of time on CNN and not reference it on his website.

    He didn’t buy it; his owners and CNN’s owners are simply a lot of the same people. Duh.

    I swear, some folks can be so damn thick.

  53. 53.

    Church Lady

    August 21, 2008 at 12:39 am

    jbarntt – the programs on CNN tonight were not paid political ads. Both programs, back to back, on McCain and Obama were CNN programming. You could possibly find both programs on CNN’s website. Hope this helps.

  54. 54.

    Church Lady

    August 21, 2008 at 12:50 am

    To all that responded to my post, thank you. I was curious about others’ opinions on some of this. All of us that read not only this blog, but lots of others, are pretty politically aware, which is certainly not the case with the vast majority of the voting public. Most will only start paying a small amount of attention when the conventions are televised, and then for only the hour or so of prime time programming on the networks. The deadenders of the population will probably not come out of their gopher holes and start putting their fingers to the wind until the beginning of October. These are the people who will vote based only on the political ads they see; therefore my query.

  55. 55.

    Conservatively Liberal

    August 21, 2008 at 12:53 am

    I swear, some folks can be so damn thick.

    jbarntt is out to set a new standard. He’s like an old Model T that backfires constantly but somehow keeps running. It’s amusing to watch in a ‘drunk on his knees in front of a park bench playing piano’ kind of way.

  56. 56.

    jbarntt

    August 21, 2008 at 12:54 am

    Hi Sleeper, you said:

    Don’t forget to send McCain your monthly donation, or else you won’t get your autographed daguerrotype via Pony Express.

    When you use fancy words, probably best to spell check them, otherwise u luk lik an idjiot ;)

    Word to the wise ? Probably not.

    I donate to McCain from the money I earn from my job. I also donate to Obama when welfare bums like you contribute to His Oneness. My vote is not available for purchase, unlike “woe is me, give me other peoples money” liberals.

    It’s a damn shame we no longer have wealth and literacy requirements for voting rights.

  57. 57.

    Mike

    August 21, 2008 at 12:57 am

    John,

    I would love to listen to a bloggingheads between you and Roy Edroso.

  58. 58.

    MarkusB

    August 21, 2008 at 1:02 am

    How is it that, as the years go by, trolls in the intertubes just keep getting dumber? It’s like watching an upside-down barber pole.

    (Now I have to wonder how many people might not get “barber pole”.)

  59. 59.

    jbarntt

    August 21, 2008 at 1:07 am

    Conservatively Liberal Says:

    I swear, some folks can be so damn thick.

    jbarntt is out to set a new standard. He’s like an old Model T that backfires constantly but somehow keeps running. It’s amusing to watch in a ‘drunk on his knees in front of a park bench playing piano’ kind of way.

    Speaking of being drunk, the quote:

    I swear, some folks can be so damn thick.

    Which CL attributes to me, is not by me. Clue for CL: Search the page for “damn thick”. You will find it in a post by Frank Jacobs, and not in one by me.

    Being a liberal doesn’t make one a moron, but apparently it helped in CL’s case. CL, tell me again about backfiring LOL.

  60. 60.

    Sleeper

    August 21, 2008 at 1:41 am

    jbarntt Says:

    Hi Sleeper, you said:

    Don’t forget to send McCain your monthly donation, or else you won’t get your autographed daguerrotype via Pony Express.

    When you use fancy words, probably best to spell check them, otherwise u luk lik an idjiot ;)

    Yes, this from the fellow who thinks that black liberals want to perform human sacrifices with living babies.

    I’m not so full of myself that I can’t acknowledge a mistake, so I thank you for the correction. But then you say:

    I donate to McCain from the money I earn from my job. I also donate to Obama when welfare bums like you contribute to His Oneness. My vote is not available for purchase, unlike “woe is me, give me other peoples money” liberals.

    You donate to both? And you call me an idiot? Clearly you have too much money on your hands. Post your email and I’ll send you my Paypal account info.

    It’s a damn shame we no longer have wealth and literacy requirements for voting rights.

    And those pesky 13th and 19th Amendments, too. What branch are you serving in, by the way?

  61. 61.

    Sleeper

    August 21, 2008 at 1:44 am

    ….I know, I know, stop feeding the trolls. Okay. I’ll try to behave from now on. Sorry all.

  62. 62.

    Conservatively Liberal

    August 21, 2008 at 2:00 am

    jbarntt, if you had taken the time to look (yet again) you would have noticed that I quoted Frank Jacobs (the one who posted the quote I made) and I was responding to him. NOT YOU! Shit you are one dumb mofo! You read things into what someone writes and jump on them before confirming your suspicions, which are invariably wrong. I bet you would walk off the edge of a cliff and if you survived you would bitch about how the sign that warns you to stay away from the edge of the cliff was not enough to inform you.

    You may bemoan the loss of literacy as a requirement to vote but let me assure you that this is a good thing, especially in your case. Do you even tie your shoe laces, or do you use Velcro as John suggested?

    Dumb as a stump? I think stumps would be offended by the association.

  63. 63.

    Conservatively Liberal

    August 21, 2008 at 2:09 am

    Oh, and CL +3

    Which makes it even funnier!

  64. 64.

    JoyceH

    August 21, 2008 at 2:41 am

    Did they show the bit where he admitted he surrendered to the Commies after a little torture? Real manly wingnuts know that it’s just like dorm hazing.

    Or how about the part he dumped the wife who waited for him to come home?

    Or that little scandal where he took bribes for favors?

    Actually, yes, they did.

    I was surprised because some months ago CNN had done an hour each on McCain, Clinton, and Obama and every one of the hours was a Valentine. If you’d watched the earlier McCain hour and didn’t know anything about McCain, there was NO WAY you could have told that the woman standing at McCain’s side today is not the wife who wanted for him to come back from Vietnam. But this time, they made that clear.

    A bit more, actually. They actually said, “But there was another secret. McCain had started cheating on his wife.” Then, the narrative continued, he transferred – and again cheated on his wife. And then, later, he met Cindy.

    I was surprised, because usually when a politician trades in his wife for a younger model, the official narrative is that ‘they grew apart and then he fell in love with’ this second person, when you know the reality is that he slept around all over the place before he comparison-shopped his way to the appropriate trophy wife.

    They also made it clear that McCain’s autobiography was untruthful when it said that he was separated from Carol when he started seeing Cindy, and that actually he was going around with Cindy for months while still living with Carol.

    They covered Keating, and also Cindy’s addiction and drug thefts – all phrased very sympathetically, but it was there.

    I wonder if any McCain supporters or undecided voters watched and were surprised by the ‘he cheated on his wife, they moved and he cheated some more, and then he cheated again and this time dumped his wife for the third (at least) adultery partner’ story, because I’d be willing to swear that most people don’t know about that. And to the base that he’s trying to win over, that stuff matters.

  65. 65.

    AnneLaurie

    August 21, 2008 at 3:20 am

    Folks, John McCain is old. John McCain is so old, his handlers are trying to present his “POW War Hero” image as though he’d served in WWII (the last good war) not the-police-action-which-shall-not-be-named. John McCain has spent many, many, many years servicing — I mean, serving — his country. John McCain has reached an age of maturity where he should be able to sit on the front porch of one of his many vacation homes, suck down a few discount brews from his wife’s family’s distributorship, and chuckle about popping enough boner pills to pester the old lady.

    Unfortunately, Dubya Bush, along with Willard, Rudy-Boy, Huxterberry, and the other Republican wanna-bes, may be middle-aged according to their birth certificates, but they are every one of them stuck in a Stupid Drunken Fratboy timewarp. After eight years of trashing what used to be the best house in the neighborhood and maxing out every credit card they could fraudulently obtain, none of these callow little over-aged delinquents could sack up, put on their big-boy pants, and use enough of their much-vaunted networking skillz to look like a viable presidential candidate. So poor old (very, very old) John McCain got dragged off the golf course and shoved in front of the cameras to represent, one more time, the self-styled Grown Up Party.

    But why, my friends, should we reward War Hero John McCain’s endurance in the political trenches with all the weight and sorrows of the thankless task facing America over the next four years? Why should we give the worthless Next GOP Generation any more chances at the public trough? Don’t these overaged, underworked ingrates all deserve to get their… heads… handed to them, since they can’t come up with a better strategy than hiding behind Grandpa McCain?…

    A considerable percentage of the hardcore pre-Boomer GOP base has had to postpone their retirements, sell the vacation home / RV / boat they’d scrimped for years to acquire, or take a part-time job at WalMart to help support their middle-aged kids and/or grandkids. Of course most of those kids simply had the bad luck to be caught on the eroding edges of the disappearing American middle class, and nobody from the Greatest Generation will admit that they wouldn’t give their heart’s blood to help out their descendents, but still: It truly sucks to discover that, just when you’re finally within sprinting distance of the finish line, they’ve added another lap to the race.

    There are, no doubt, a whole lot of people in the 60-to-death age group who’ll never be able to bring themselves to vote for That Colored Kid. But if we can’t inspire them with the pure energy of the Magical Unity Pony Campaign, we can at least take one of the less befouled leaves from the GOP playbook and encourage them to stay home, sit on their hands, and deny the Greedy Obnoxious Pricks their votes.

  66. 66.

    JGabriel

    August 21, 2008 at 3:36 am

    AnneLaurie:

    …we can at least take one of the less befouled leaves from the GOP playbook and encourage them to stay home, sit on their hands, and deny the Greedy Obnoxious Pricks their votes.

    Or encourage them to vote for someone else. It shouldn’t be that hard:

    “Hey, Grams, you know who will really go after all them illegal Mexicans and fix up those immigration problems you talk about? Bob Barr, that’s who! That’s BARR, B-A-R-R. Got that? Good.”

    .

  67. 67.

    jake

    August 21, 2008 at 5:54 am

    I live a mile from the republican convention and I hope that we survive the vortex that will be created by having Leiberman, Bush and Cheney all in town on the same day. I wouldn’t be surprised if it rains frogs that day.

    Look sharp when you go in a restroom. Even your own.

  68. 68.

    jake

    August 21, 2008 at 6:00 am

    Oh yeah, gbear you forgot Rudi 911ani. Minnesota might be reduced to a singularity and you’ll wind up smooshed against Cheney for all eternity.

    Got any vacation time coming?

  69. 69.

    wvng

    August 21, 2008 at 7:01 am

    Jed clipped a segment from the CNN piece that was not “hero hero hero.”
    “CNN Talks With McCain About His Extramarital Affairs.
    My jaw literally dropped when I saw this. I’m still shocked CNN went there.”

  70. 70.

    Conservatively Liberal

    August 21, 2008 at 7:01 am

    Look sharp when you go in a restroom. Even your own.

    Also, make sure you use a narrow stance in the stall.

  71. 71.

    Laura W

    August 21, 2008 at 7:09 am

    Alan Says:

    Laura, did you have John McCains?

    I most certainly did, Alan.
    I’m just lucky that way.

  72. 72.

    JL

    August 21, 2008 at 7:26 am

    Did CNN also show McCain taking responsibility for being involved with the Keating 5? It would be interesting to compare his speech on the Senate floor with his accepting responsibility for the failure of his marriage.

  73. 73.

    JGabriel

    August 21, 2008 at 7:46 am

    Conservatively Liveral:

    jbarntt… I bet you would walk off the edge of a cliff and if you survived you would bitch about how the sign that warns you to stay away from the edge of the cliff was not enough to inform you.

    Obviously, you have failed to understand how jbarntt’s mind works. Were he to survive falling off the cliff despite proper warning signs, the first thing jbarntt would do is complain that the signs were unnecessary and a waste of taxpayer’s money – i.e., his own hard-earned dollars, goddammit – since, if the signs were necessary, he’d be dead.

    .

  74. 74.

    4tehlulz

    August 21, 2008 at 8:09 am

    the first thing jbarntt would do is complain that the signs were unnecessary and a waste of taxpayer’s money

    Unless they were used for literacy tests for preventing niggers from voting, in which case he would be for it.

  75. 75.

    jibeaux

    August 21, 2008 at 8:12 am

    Baby killer’s old news. The buzz now is all about how Obama gave Ted Kennedy a brain tumor because he might change his mind.

    I told you that was going to keep me entertained for weeks. And they say *we* think he’s the Obamessiah…

    The even more funny thing, though, is that presupposing one could give someone else a brain tumor, that rationale is the worst one I can personally think of. What happened to good ol’ “well, he had to throw us off the scent by whacking a few supporters, too”?

  76. 76.

    4tehlulz

    August 21, 2008 at 8:15 am

    Obama is a scanner, but as the Antichrist, he has to be more subtle, so he pops a vein here or there instead of making people explode.

    It’s the only reasonable explanation.

  77. 77.

    jibeaux

    August 21, 2008 at 8:20 am

    Also, c’mon people, you should at least make the trolls work a little for those troll house cookies… I mean, really, a shame about no wealth tests for voting? Lacks the subtlety of truly great trolling. Don’t even get sucked in by the grammar lessons followed by “other peoples money”. Also obvious, yawn, just not worth it. We’re better than that, people! We have standards here!

    Maybe we need a 401(k), some sort of dental plan….hmm…

  78. 78.

    Punchy

    August 21, 2008 at 8:24 am

    I donate to McCain from the money I earn from my job.

    Bet it makes you feel great to give $100 to a guy who already owns $100 MILLION. Bet it makes a world of diff to the geezer.

  79. 79.

    4tehlulz

    August 21, 2008 at 8:26 am

    Bet it makes you feel great to give $100 to a guy who already whored himself into $100 MILLION. Bet it makes a world of diff to the geezer.

    Fixed for accuracy.

  80. 80.

    Glocksman

    August 21, 2008 at 8:28 am

    AnneLaurie:

    …we can at least take one of the less befouled leaves from the GOP playbook and encourage them to stay home, sit on their hands, and deny the Greedy Obnoxious Pricks their votes.

    Or encourage them to vote for someone else. It shouldn’t be that hard:

    “Hey, Grams, you know who will really go after all them illegal Mexicans and fix up those immigration problems you talk about? Bob Barr, that’s who! That’s BARR, B-A-R-R. Got that? Good.”

    Back when I was a Reagan Republican, I *hated* all of the at most half true ads the Democrats ran implying that Ronnie wanted to take away Grandma’s Social Security.

    But they worked and scared the bejeezus out of a lot of elderly people.

    The DNC, Obama, and the 527’s should all hammer home both McCain’s crackpot scheme to turn the SS trust funds over to Wall Street and on his other brain addled ideas WRT healthcare.

    And this time around, the ads will have the advantage of being true. :)

  81. 81.

    The Moar You Know

    August 21, 2008 at 8:40 am

    Church Lady Says:

    Damn, this is some of the best trolling I’ve seen in a long while. Kudos.

  82. 82.

    myiq2xu

    August 21, 2008 at 9:02 am

    Obama won the primary

    Incorrect

    Hillary won the primaries. She got the most votes, won the battleground states, and all the big states except Illinois.

    Obama won the caucuses and “red” states that will be voting GOP in November.

    Neither candidate got enough pledged delegates to win the nomination.

    Obama was selected as the presumptive nominee by the superdelegates.

    Less than 100 delegates separate the candidates, and the superdelegates haven’t officially cast their votes yet.

  83. 83.

    Glocksman

    August 21, 2008 at 9:11 am

    myiq2xu, lets presume that all goes as planned and Obama is officially made the nominee at the convention and Hillary gives a stirring speech urging everyone to elect him.

    Then what?
    Are you going to then vote for McCain out of pique?
    Because I’ll tell you that while I couldn’t stand the way HRC ran her campaign, if she won I would sure as hell have voted for her in November over that crackpot neocon McCain.
    Too much is at stake here to let wounded pride win out over getting the Republicans out of office.

    What’s your choice?

  84. 84.

    zzyzx

    August 21, 2008 at 9:59 am

    She got the most votes, won the battleground states, and all the big states except Illinois.

    She only got the most votes if you give Obama 0 votes in Michigan. That hardly seems to be a metric designed to demonstrate the desires of the party.

    As for battleground states, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Colorado, and Virgina are all battleground states won by Obama.

  85. 85.

    Faux News

    August 21, 2008 at 10:12 am

    It’s hard to believe myiq2xu would show up to gloat that his candidate is gaining in the polls. Who could have foreseen that.

    I apologize if others have already said this: I’m begining to think myiq2xu is Mark Penn.

  86. 86.

    Ed Marshall

    August 21, 2008 at 10:16 am

    Hillary won the primaries. She got the most votes, won the battleground states, and all the big states except Illinois.

    This is all outdated agitprop. I’m really sorry you were dumb enough to consume it, and it’s honestly pitiful that long after the people peddling it folded up their tent that you are so thick that you don’t understand it was always a bunch of horseshit.

    I *kind* of get it. I remember being the lone voice in the wilderness saying that the Iowa caucus was bullshit back in 2004 when it burnt my guy Dean. I *didn’t* however keep caterwauling and bitching and threatening to vote for Bush over it. That’s self-importance and idiocy and just…bullshit beyond my ken.

  87. 87.

    Doug H. (Fausto no more)

    August 21, 2008 at 10:18 am

    I’m begining to think myiq2xu is Mark Penn.

    Can’t be. Penn realized Hillary lost and has been busily tattling to everyone how it wasn’t his fault.

  88. 88.

    harlana pepper

    August 21, 2008 at 10:19 am

    A little OT, but on the ‘big news’ nite, I heard Rachel Maddow talk about Cindy McCain’s half-sister. Cindy goes around telling everyone she’s an only child when actually, her dad had a daughter from a previous marriage, whom he basically cut out of his will and, if I am not mistaken, left Cindy pretty much everything. Nice guy.

  89. 89.

    John S.

    August 21, 2008 at 10:20 am

    myiq2xu Says:

    I am a ratfucker with no grasp on reality. Hillary 4 EVER!

    We know, champ, we know.

  90. 90.

    Doug H. (Fausto no more)

    August 21, 2008 at 10:22 am

    That’s self-importance and idiocy and just…bullshit beyond my ken.

    Bob Barr ’08: Because We Libertarians Understand Nobody Is More Important To You Than Yourself

  91. 91.

    harlana pepper

    August 21, 2008 at 10:22 am

    Here’s the scoop on the half-sister. That’s pretty cold.

  92. 92.

    w vincentz

    August 21, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Back to McCain…I just heard him say in an attempted bash at Obama, that the “surge” has made “our nation more secure”. Hmmm…what nation did that “surge’ take place in?
    I thought it was Iraq. McCain…angry, delusional, and geographically challenged.

  93. 93.

    LiberalTarian

    August 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    “Hey, Grams, you know who will really go after all them illegal Mexicans and fix up those immigration problems you talk about? Bob Barr, that’s who! That’s BARR, B-A-R-R. Got that? Good.”

    This is good advice. I plan to use it. I’m going to throw in a little “protest vote” rhetoric to boot, you know, that whole communicating with your party kind of thing.

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