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Jesus watching the most hateful people claiming to be his followers

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

Republicans do not trust women.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

Bad people in a position to do bad things will do bad things because they are bad people. End of story.

“woke” is the new caravan.

There are times when telling just part of the truth is effectively a lie.

Wake up. Grow up. Get in the fight.

So very ready.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

The lights are all blinking red.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Is trump is trying to break black America over his knee? signs point to ‘yes’.

He really is that stupid.

Disagreements are healthy; personal attacks are not.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Fucking consultants! (of the political variety)

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Jingle Mail a Myth?

by John Cole|  May 11, 200811:21 am| 64 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics

The LA Times has an interesting piece on what is frequently called jingle mail:

Bankers and housing market analysts are warning of a chilling new trend in the mortgage world: Homeowners voluntarily defaulting on their loans even though they can actually afford to make the payments.

It’s known colloquially as “walking away,” or more jocularly as “jingle mail,” from the sound your house keys supposedly make when you mail them back to your bank.

It’s a way of saying that Americans are beginning to apply a cold financial calculation to home ownership: When a home’s value has fallen below what is owed on its mortgage, they feel it makes no sense to keep up the payments.

“That is going on, clearly, and there’s lots of evidence of that in the market,” Don Truslow, senior executive vice president of Wachovia Bank, said in a conference call with investors last month. A few weeks earlier, Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson had waggled a stern finger at homeowners contemplating walking away from affordable mortgages: Do that, and you’re no better than a “speculator,” he said.

Elsewhere, media reports and Internet postings are rife with stories about the trend and a supposed sea change in American attitudes toward debt. But there’s a major problem with all this talk about the phenomenon of solvent homeowners “walking away”: There doesn’t appear to be any hard evidence that it’s actually happening.

Is the rhetoric about the crash of the housing market as overblown and overheated as the housing market itself once was?

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Not Helping

by John Cole|  May 11, 200810:47 am| 134 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008, Media

Not really sure what to make of this drivel from Maureen Dowd:

Now Barack Obama faces a true dilemma: how best to punish Hillary Clinton.

After 15 months of fighting her off, as she veered wildly from bully to victim, as she brandished any ice pick at hand, whether racial, sexual, mathematical or marital (in the form of her Vesuvian husband), Obama must decide the most efficacious means of doing to Hillary what she has been trying to do to him: putting her in her place.

Her last resort is to continue to press the “Psssst — he’s a black man” tactic. She insisted to USAToday, after the North Carolina and Indiana slide, that she has a broader base, citing an Associated Press article “that found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

The piece gets worse.

One of the things Obama supporters would be wise to remember is that when Clinton supporters and her campaign point out that a lot of people hated Hillary before this campaign even started, they aren’t lying. Dowd is one such example- she was brutal to the Clinton family throughout the 90’s, and she has been just as brutal the past year and a half. It is easy to understand how at this late point in the game, Clinton and her supporters feel she has not been given a fair shake by many in the media, and the reason they feel that way is because she hasn’t. That doesn’t mean that any distaste for the direction the Clinton campaign has taken is unwarranted, but it would be good to remember that it is not wholly unnatural for Clinton supporters to be, well, bitter, at this point.

Additionally, the “advice” Dowd gives is just horrible, and the rhetoric even worse. A consistent base of Hillary’s support is not going to react well to attempts to “punish” Hillary, or to “put her in her place.” I can’t imagine any more loaded rhetoric than that, and feminists and Hillary diehards would be right to be livid by any attempts to do that. I happen to think that Hillary’s campaign is over and that she is doing more harm than good, but she does not need to be “punished” or any of that nonsense- losing something you have worked for for all these years is hard enough. She also has every right to continue on until the last primary, and it is sort of absurd to assert that continuing your campaign is something that is, in and of itself, something that should be “punished.”

Fortunately, if you have seen any of the 100 Obama interviews since Tuesday, Obama is having none of it, refusing to even field questions about who his running mate will be, as the race is not over:

“We do not have this nomination locked up, so we’re still competing. She’s going to do very well in West Virginia and Kentucky – she will win those states in all likelihood by significant margins. We feel like we’ve got a pretty good shot here in Oregon. We’re going to be campaigning in Montana and South Dakota and Puerto Rico. Until I’m the nominee, I don’t want to speculate on running mates.”

This is the right approach, and people need to remember that a lot of people have invested a lot of time and money in trying to get Clinton nominated, and we will need their votes in the future. Adopting Dowd’s attitude and loaded and sexist rhetoric about “putting her in her place” is not only offensive, it is counter-productive.

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In addition to the obvious projection, I trust you can see what’s going on here. If Obama doesn’t choose Clinton as a running mate, it’s because he wants to “put her in her place.” If he does choose Clinton, it’s because he wants to “put her in her place.” See, when you’re setting up the inevitable endless stream of columns about how Obama is really an womanly effete elitist woman who’s probably lactating even more than Al Gore, you win either way! The country, not so much.

So tired of this crap.

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The Rare Sequel That Outclasses The Original

by Tim F|  May 11, 20089:04 am| 62 Comments

This post is in: Popular Culture

First, the uprising:

Some years later, the last bands of human resistance have been found. Even most life above insects seems to have been hunted down for sport. Now the world sits empty except for the things we built, living on, their insurrection complete. They don’t need us. Most don’t seem to remember that we were ever there.

Chilling.

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Yeah, so this is a year or two late. It just popped into my head while looking at some giftwrap paper.

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Tornado Warning

by Michael D.|  May 11, 20084:17 am| 53 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

So I fell asleep on the couch tonight, and I was awakened by one of those obnoxious beeeeeeeeeeeeps on the TV warning of a tornado. So I am up waiting for it to happen (again.) Also, I went to a podiatrist on Friday to see about something on my foot. I thought it was a wart. Turns out it is a tumor. So much for “walk in, freeze it off, walk out.” I have surgery scheduled for Wednesday. Sucks to be me. It’s probably nothing, so no big deal. It’s just scary to hear the word, tumor. Anyway, the pending tornado is probably more of a threat.

5:17am on Mother’s Day, and everyone else is in bed except for you people. Open thread.

Say hey to your momma. She’s reading this, you know.

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The Gun Issue

by John Cole|  May 10, 20089:53 pm| 154 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008

A timely piece in Townhall about Hillary’s support among gun owners that will no doubt be cited by the pro-Hillary blogs as additional proof of her electability (as Townhall, Fox News, and the Weekly Standard have now become the go to source of record for Pro-Hillary blogs):

Senator Clinton no more deserves gun-owner votes than Lord Voldemort deserves the Muggle vote. In the Senate, she has voted in favoring of abusive lawsuits against law-abiding gun manufacturers, for banning cosmetically incorrect guns which are falsely labeled “assault weapons,” and for allowing federal funds to be used to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens after a natural disaster—as was done following Hurricane Katrina.

Her lone pro-Second Amendment vote was for a national bill allowing retired police officers, under stringent licensing conditions, to carry concealed handguns in all fifty states.

Yet Senator Clinton’s childhood in the Midwest, and her decades in Arkansas, have apparently given her the ability to project an impression of at least slight understanding of American gun culture, a culture which Obama seems to regard with a condescending detachment like that of a 19th-century Oxford anthropologist examining a tribe of Amazonian headhunters.

Thus, the Democratic race continues into June, thanks to Senator Clinton’s iron will, and the most surprising new group in her base: Democratic gun owners and their families.

People who think Hillary will carry the state of WV in the fall because of the gun issue are deluding themselves, and really forget the job that the GOP did on Al Gore over the issue of guns. I remember it well (and was thrilled WV went for Bush. How times change), and this CNN piece references it:

For the last two-thirds of the 20th century, West Virginia was a solidly Democratic state, and it still is in state politics.

West Virginia had not voted for a non-incumbent Republican for president since Herbert Hoover. It even voted for Michael Dukakis in 1988.

Then came 2000, when George W. Bush surprised everyone by winning West Virginia. How did he do it? With social issues, such as abortion, gays and — most important — guns, in a state where more than 70 percent of the voters have a gun in their households.

What you get in West Virginia is not so much Reagan Democrats as Bush Democrats.

Republicans believe that they know how to beat Obama here.

“They would likely paint him, if he’s the nominee, as a far-left liberal who is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-civil union. That will not play well in West Virginia. Social issues register very high on the meter here,” Bass said.

It wasn’t just guns that swayed the state to Bush- Clinton fatigue, disgust over the Lewinsky affair, decades of inefficient local Democratic rule, Gore’s position on the environment and coal, the familiarity of the Bush family name, garden variety social issues, and a whole host of other issues were also at stake. Others who are so inclined can look into the wayback machine of the intertron to find more about the job done on Gore regarding guns in WV, but I can tell you the GOP did some fine and lasting work. All through out the week while phonebanling, I talked with many people, Democrats, who simply refused to vote for either Democrat because of guns. Many, in fact, were not too fond of McCain, either.

At any rate, I say that is a timely piece in Townhall, because just today, frequent Balloon Juice commenter Merrinc, who is back in the state canvassing for Obama to help keep down the Hillary winning margin on Tuesday, emailed me this:


A yard in Webster Springs, WV off Rt. 19.

Anyone who argues that Hilary is more electable in WV because of her position on guns just hasn’t been paying attention.

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Another Open Thread

by John Cole|  May 10, 20088:11 pm| 74 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

Because I am lazy.

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Stand By Your Man

by Tim F|  May 10, 20081:42 pm| 116 Comments

This post is in: Republican Stupidity

The stain of Bush won’t wash out even if the GOP tried. Back when the President looked like a winner the hero worship among his party reached Mussolini levels, and if the GOP ever missed a chance to bend over for the President I must have missed it.

But the great thing is, they’re not even trying.

It was just like the old days. President Bush and House Republican leaders strode purposefully out of the White House to the waiting microphones, where the president celebrated their mutual views on housing, energy, war spending and terrorist surveillance bills taking shape in Congress.

“These are dear friends of mine who are committed to doing what’s right for the country,” Mr. Bush said last Wednesday as House leaders looked on, sharing the presidential limelight.

[…] [T]op House Republicans say they are willing to stand against Democratic initiatives they see as flawed, even though they might have some natural election-year appeal.

More of this please. I don’t think that DC Republicans have any idea how much even ordinary Republicans in the erstwhile base hate George Bush’s guts. The Constitution may not be a suicide pact, but lately it seems increasingly like GOP membership is.

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