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You are here: Home / Politics / Republican Stupidity / The Rats Turn On Each Other

The Rats Turn On Each Other

by John Cole|  April 10, 200911:45 am| 33 Comments

This post is in: Republican Stupidity, Rumormongering

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This was fun to read:

Former Bush adviser Karl Rove was verbally accosted Thursday evening by an ex-chief of staff to former Rep. Tom Feeney (R-Fla.).

Rove was quietly having dinner at the tony restaurant Charlie Palmer Steak on Capitol Hill when he was aggressively approached by Jason Roe, the former Feeney staffer. Roe, now of Federal Strategy Group, was “loud and boisterous” toward Rove. He was apparently (still) upset over the following comments Rove made on Fox News, the day after the election, in which Feeney — along with many other Republicans — went down in flames.

Democrats should remember that it wasn’t too long ago that they were busy shooting at each other and spending much of their time coming up with the best Bob Shrum insult.

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  1. 1.

    Nim, ham hock of liberty

    April 10, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Democrats should remember that it wasn’t too long ago that they were busy shooting at each other and spending much of their time coming up with the best Bob Shrum insult.

    Point taken. BUT….the fact still remains that both Bob Shrum and Rove have earned snarky insults and serious criticism, whether from their own party or not.

  2. 2.

    John Cole

    April 10, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Test

  3. 3.

    DougJ

    April 10, 2009 at 11:56 am

    That was a great story. I had been thinking about putting it up too.

  4. 4.

    Gatsby

    April 10, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Sorry to trouble you, John, but when are you going to post pictures of Tunch and of your parents’ puppies?

    Those pictures make the world’s insanity bearable.

    Thank you.

    A-A

  5. 5.

    GSD

    April 10, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Karl Rove is now running around calling Joe Biden a liar and windbag.

    It seems that only a few weeks ago there was a collective mainstream media vapor attack over an insult aimed at Dick Cheney by Robert Gibbs. Chip Reid and Jake Tapper were in a huff over the outrage if I recall.

    Will the media rear up and take down Karl Rove for this unprecedented attack on a sitting V.P.?

    I didn’t think so.

    -GSD

  6. 6.

    James

    April 10, 2009 at 11:58 am

    When the article quoted Rove as repeatedly saying "I have a file," one must ask "where did he get it?" My general take on Rove is that he began spying on virtually everyone before the boxes were unloaded at the White House in 2001. Especially Congress – why, for the first time in history, did Bush enjoy the adoration of the legislative and administrative masses if not for Rove on the scramblephone late at night giggling and threatening – "I have a file?"

    We know he did whatever he wanted to do, and maybe continues to do. Legacy embeds, you know.

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    April 10, 2009 at 11:59 am

    I’m with GSD. The stuff Gibbs said was nothing compared to calling the sitting VP a liar who lies.

  8. 8.

    Dennis-SGMM

    April 10, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Apparently Jason Roe doesn’t understand that Karl Rove cannot fail, he can only be failed. The Porcine One has the math.

  9. 9.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 10, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    John, but when are you going to post pictures of Tunch and of your parents’ puppies?

    You never told us how Tunch reacted to the puppies, was there much hissing or was Tunch in hiding during their stay.
    Oh and I second the request for Tunch photos.

  10. 10.

    Aqualad08

    April 10, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    He has files? I was led to believe he had accidently erased those files…

    Why is this man still on my TV, or free to roam the streets?

  11. 11.

    aimai

    April 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    I disagree, John. I can enjoy the rats gnawing at each other over on the Republican side as entertainment. And enjoy democratic attacks on Bob Shrum as well deserved puniment for utter incompetence. I think it was actually critically important for the Democratic party to move away from the Bob Shrum wing of the party and from their incompetence in running actual campaigns. My only caveat is that I hope the Republican party gets good and pissed off at Rove *and keeps taking his advice and giving him money* because that way they can keep losing and staying out of power.

    aimai

  12. 12.

    Mojotron

    April 10, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    this comment is interesting, I hadn’t heard it:

    ok wasn’t there a spate of stories about Feeney and Clint Curtis a few years ago concerning Curtis’ well-substantiated accusations Feeney was conspiring to electronically alter election results, including 2000? If so, that would explain Roe’s sense of betrayal and his phrase "You guys wouldn’t be in the White House without Tom" and add a subtext to Rove’s "I have a file". Not to read too much in or anything, but given the mass of coverage on the issue, it seems to warrant at least a mention here.

  13. 13.

    Max

    April 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    In a just world, Rove would be shown on live television getting buried under several cubic tons of excrement.

  14. 14.

    Steve V

    April 10, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    omg, their whole argument was about whether Feeney was a sufficiently loyal bushie? And Rove kept files on everybody to monitor their loyalty? What a way to run a country!

  15. 15.

    Dennis-SGMM

    April 10, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    "I have the file."
    Jeebus, that sounds like something you’d hear from Stasi or the KGB.

  16. 16.

    The Moar You Know

    April 10, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    In a just world, Rove would be shown on live television getting buried under several cubic tons of excrement.

    @Max: In a perfect world, I would be wielding the shovel.

  17. 17.

    El Tiburon

    April 10, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    I am surprised the scumbags are not verbally abused every time they are in public.

    If I saw any of them I don’t think I could control myself. If our government is not going to do anything, then I say we do our own little teabag movement and make it our duty to verbally harrass these fucksticks.

    They are sociopaths, war criminals and huge fucking assholes.

    Is this acceptable behavior? Am I out of bounds on this? Do we just act like nothing happened if we look over and John Yoo or Alberto Gonzales are shoving a fried shrimp down their gullets?

    I think not.

    Who’s with me?

  18. 18.

    Balconespolitics

    April 10, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    In a perfect world, I would be wielding the shovel.

    Somehow, that reminded me of this great Onion article.

  19. 19.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 10, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Who’s with me?

    Me. I always rag on ’em to their faces when they set up outside the school or rec center. Jacked up one old man in 2006 outside the rec center until he was red-faced and screaming. Then I turned to my son and calmly said, "See? Republicans are very bad people."

  20. 20.

    Tom Betz

    April 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Let us not forget this bit of Rovian hypocrisy.

    Obama’s keeping score, but Rove keeps files.

  21. 21.

    r€nato

    April 10, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    you guys missed the best part at the very end of the article:

    Then a lady came over to fill up Rove’s water glass, breaking up Roe and Rove and Roe returned to the bar. Rumor has it Rove was waiting to have dinner with former RNC Chair Ken Mehlman.

    There’s your GOP mandate. I wonder who was the top? Maybe they take turns.

  22. 22.

    Llelldorin

    April 10, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Frankly, this is the healthiest thing that I’ve seen out of the Republican party since Bob Michel retired.

    The creepiest thing about the Republicans over the last few years has been their "pod people" vibe, where every last piece of wingnuttia would be enthusiastically embraced by all but a scant handful of Republicans (and, worse, and very unlike the Dems, always exactly the same scant handful).

    They desperately need an internal war. It’d be ugly, and it’d cost them an election or two, but the result might be a Republican party that’s responding to reality instead of its own fantasyland.

    (Failing that, a majority of them might eventually quit and form the ancient order of No Roves, which would have much the same effect.)

  23. 23.

    jake 4 that 1

    April 10, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I’ll make up 50 gallons of jello (cherry flavor, natch). Who wants to be in charge of selling tickets to the wrestling match?

  24. 24.

    Montysano (All Hail Marx & Lennon)

    April 10, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    From the Politico story:

    Rumor has it Rove was waiting to have dinner with former RNC Chair Ken Mehlman.

    Poor Karl can’t even go out on a date without being hassled.

  25. 25.

    jon

    April 10, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    The guy who confronted him is a real jackass. Trust me.

  26. 26.

    Ash Can

    April 10, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    @jon: No reason to doubt that. It doesn’t, of course, make Rove any less of a shitheel, though. Birds of a feather, and all that.

  27. 27.

    geg6

    April 10, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    @El Tiburon:

    Me. I ran into Man-on-dog Santorum once in Pittsburgh. In an elevator.

    He got off on the next floor even though it wasn’t the floor for which he pushed the button.

    Seems once I pointed out who he was and what I thought of him, a few other passengers had a few things to say to him, too. :-)

  28. 28.

    MacsenMifune

    April 10, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    He has files on people, who is he now J Edgar Hoover. If that guy really thought he could get a straight answer out of Rover just by walking up to him and asking, then this Roe really has been paying attention much recently.

  29. 29.

    Mike G

    April 10, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    In a just world, Rove would be shown on live television getting buried under several cubic tons of excrement.

    With the possible exception of watching Osama Bin Laden being thrown into a shark tank, that would be the Best. Pay Per View. Ever.

  30. 30.

    DanSmoot'sGhost

    April 10, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    @GSD:

    Seems to me that Rove is saying what Bush told him to say, otherwise, Rove would be saying "I was there and that is not what Joe Biden said." Rove wasn’t there. So, who would know what Biden said to Bush, besides Biden and Bush?

    So Bush calls Rove on the phone and says "Go on tv and call that sumbitch a liar!"

    So who do we want to believe? The UniterDeciderator? Or Joe?

    I think Bush is just chagrined that nobody told him you can’t call yourself a leader when your choir shrinks by fifty percent under your leadership.

  31. 31.

    Kyle

    April 10, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    The guy who confronted him is a real jackass. Trust me.

    When jackasses fight with assholes, everybody wins regardless of outcome.

  32. 32.

    jon

    April 10, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    @Kyle: Yes, but Rove is basically right about his congressman and Roe was part of the problem with that office(and a great example of the Frat-rat Hill GOP staffer crowd).

  33. 33.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 10, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Give me a hot Karl any day over that lameass Roe.

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