Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

If marriage is the equivalent of selling yourself into slavery, women with self respect should reject the offer.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

It’s a good piece. click on over. but then come back!!

Cole is on a roll !

Motown is Joe-Town!

There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

“Let’s not pretend [Trump] wants to engage in high-minded discourse.”

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

Michigan is a great lesson for Dems everywhere: when you have power…use it!

Joe Biden can go out like FDR, not by dying in office, but by crushing the fascists.

Every one of the “Roberts Six” lied to get on the court.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

When the time comes to make an endorsement, the pain of NYT editors will be palpable as they reluctantly whisper “Biden.”

I’m more Christian than these people and I’m an atheist.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the gop

No one could have predicted…

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

The choice is between normal and crazy.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

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Tom Maguire:

He’s prepared to call “bullshit”, but not to my face – what’s missing in his response to my argument is any link at all to me. He’s a bold one!

At issue is I apparently forgot to include Sullivan’s link to Maguire in this post I made the other day about the fauxtrage regarding the DHS report.

Because I’m afraid to say it to his face. Please don’t beat me up after school.

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  2. 2.

    Ed Marshall

    He was just link whoring, now I followed the damn thing and gave him that hit that was fiending out for.

  6. 6.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    I think it’s too early to be admitting anything, John Cole. Depending on how the fight goes, it may be him apologizing for the misunderstanding.

  10. 10.

    schrodinger's cat

    Please don’t beat me up after school.

    Don’t worry Tunch will protect you. BTW did you find him a friend?

  11. 11.

    AnotherBruce

    Blog fight, watch the electrons start flying! I’m stepping back so I don’t catch any metaphorical shrapnel.

  14. 14.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    John, if ya see a big yella truck cruising slowly around yer neighborhood with a big aluminum bat hangin’ out the window, no worries, that’s just Fuckhead on Patrol.

  15. 15.

    HyperIon

    @John Cole:

    So absurd. An entire post because I forgot a link. Did his email break?

    i’ve noticed that lots of folks are a bit touchy about links.
    oh, well.

  20. 20.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @JenJen:

    But, Tom Maguire is a very serious person, you know.

    Yeah, well he done opened a serious can o’ whoopass now.

  21. 21.

    PaulB

    What’s equally hilarious is the lameness of his response. He knows he can’t defend the idiocy of his first post so he doesn’t even try.

  22. 22.

    John Cole

    The comments over there are priceless. They are trying to figure out where I live (West Virginia, kids) because I am playing the race card:

    :This is my favorite part: “with the ascent of an African-American President”‘ I think Cole stole that directly from Napoletano. Let’s make sure we push the “racist” meme, right Rahm?

    The only racists I know are liberals. Of course that might just be in the northeast. Then again Mr. Cole too is playing the race card. Where is he from?

    I bet if those guys over there think real hard, they might be able to come up with one reason why white supremacists might be particularly agitated by the ascent of an African-American to the Office of the Presidency. I wonder what it could be?

  23. 23.

    sgwhiteinfla

    Its funny but every wingnut ever always say the only racists are liberals. But in the next breath they will say that liberals want Arab Muslims to come over and take over the US and institute Sharia Law. Man the mental gymnastics those morons have to go through to come to any of their conclusions.

  25. 25.

    JenJen

    @John Cole: I doubt they’d be convinced if anyone pointed out that the United States of America has a long, sad, painfully-documented history of violent right-wing extremism. That’s just silly Michael Moore talk.

    Also, they’re only protesting the budget deficit now because it’s really, really big. Doubting their motives means you’re stupid and uninformed.

    God, John, for the love of all that is holy, I pray you don’t have granite countertops.

  26. 26.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    I bet if those guys over there think real hard, they might be able to come up with one reason why white supremacists might be particularly agitated by the ascent of an African-American to the Office of the Presidency. I wonder what it could be?

    Drawing a blank here.

  27. 27.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    He’s prepared to call “bullshit”, but not to my face – what’s missing in his response to my argument is any link at all to me.

    You kids today, I tell ya. When I was growing up, calling bullshit to someone’s face involved, you know, getting into bullshitter’s actual face, calling bullshit and being willing to deal with what followed. Now all it takes is a link to the bullshitter’s blog.

    I’m not sure of the protocol. Does bullshit calling occur by posting the link or do readers have to follow the link for it to count?

  28. 28.

    Cain

    @John Cole:

    The comments over there are priceless. They are trying to figure out where I live (West Virginia, kids) because I am playing the race card:

    I suggest you provide a picture of your countertop as well as a pre-emptive gesture to what will obviously come next. If you see Malkin in your bush (oh boy) shoot her with your 2nd amendment provided gun.

    cain

  29. 29.

    Comrade Stuck

    Lets all get together and go internet whup Maguire’s ass!

    Blogmatch at the OK! Kennel.

  31. 31.

    Left Coast Tom

    The comments over there are priceless. They are trying to figure out where I live (West Virginia, kids)

    So you live in the “state” that the EvilSoc!alist Abraham Lincoln carved from the portion of Virginia that didn’t want to leave the union? Don’t you know Saint Ron Paul ungrammatically said “So secession is a very much American principle”?

    Why do you hate America?

  32. 32.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    When I was growing up, calling bullshit to someone’s face involved, you know, getting into bullshitter’s actual face, calling bullshit and being willing to deal with what followed. Now all it takes is a link to the bullshitter’s blog.

    Yeah, like remembering to code an internet address in special hypertext markup language is easier than gallivanting around with an onion in yer belt. Go yell at the clouds, oldtimer. Us “kids” are fixin to throw down.

    *begins snapping*

  33. 33.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @bvac:

    it seem a few of them are confusing you with Juan Cole, too.

    Be a shame if Juan winds up getting his ass kicked over this.

  34. 34.

    Ivan Ivanovich Renko

    Oh, the comments! Take Jane, who says:

    The only racists I know are liberals.

    And if she knew any black people, she’s absolutely certain they would agree with her.

  35. 35.

    John Cole

    @bvac: That happened the other day with that guy from Bizzyblog. I wish I had taken screenshots.

    He posted some link to some website called zombietime with a quote form Juan Cole. I told him we are two separate people, so then he linked to a Juan Cole piece in Antiwar.com and told me there were meds for me to take.

    After commenters informed him repeatedly that I am John Cole not Juan Cole, he took it all down and called me dumb.

  36. 36.

    Common Sense

    What pisses me off most about this DHS stuff is this (directed at Tommy and the Wingtards):

    No one is taking your rights from you. You gave your rights away. Willingly, hell gleefully waving red white and blue pompoms the whole time. To paraphrase Ben, you sacrificed your essential liberties and got a little temporary security. How’s it feel?

  37. 37.

    John Cole

    @Common Sense: If you wanted to attack the report for anything, attack it for being completely useless. Everything in it is known already. There was nothing new. It was so completely uneventful as to be dull. I read it and found absolutely nothing to motivate a response out of me one way or another.

    The freakout over that nothingburger of a report has been absurd.

  39. 39.

    gwangung

    @John Cole:

    If you wanted to attack the report for anything, attack it for being completely useless.

    Prepared by the Bush Administration, right?

  40. 40.

    Will Danz

    To his FACE? Is that what we’re calling little bloggy links now?

    The standards for rightwing wannabe-manly-men are slipping. I mean, this clown sounds more hysterical than Jonah Goldberg.

  42. 42.

    Krista

    I keep reading comments on that blog and thinking it’s awesome parody.

    It very well might be. Maguire’s place has always been a happy hunting ground for spoofery.

    John, I think Tommy’s wounded that you didn’t provide a link. Maybe you should send him a nice card. On the front, it can have a watercolour depiction of that lovely mountain that he made from a molehill.

  43. 43.

    Dug Jay

    Here’s another unkind comment from that thread over at Maguire’s blog:

    “Have a little sympathy for ole Mister Cole; he’s in a non-tenured tract job at a state university and has been told by his dean (repeatedly) that if he’s offered something better, he sholuld take it. He has found as he enters middle age, that his blogging gig, now that he’s ramped up his equivalent of the Andrew Sullivan ability to compose deranged screeds at the drop of a jock strap, is turning a nice little profit. Please don’t rain on the jerk’s parade.”

  44. 44.

    MikeJ

    Tom Maguire? Who the fuck is Tom Maguire? Honestly, I’m not being snarky, I’ve never heard of the guy. Had Sullivan not pointed to his tripe would anybody have ever heard it?

  47. 47.

    Jon H

    @MikeJ: “Tom Maguire? Who the fuck is Tom Maguire?”

    He’s the guy still waiting for Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson to be arrested for outing Valerie Plame.

  48. 48.

    Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist

    @Jon H: …still waiting for Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson to be arrested for outing Valerie Plame.

    Yeah, about that…

    I guess it’ll have to get in line behind the really big crimes that need prosecuting, like the war of aggression, and all that.

  49. 49.

    Dr. Loveless

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Yeah, like remembering to code an internet address in special hypertext markup language is easier than gallivanting around with an onion in yer belt. Go yell at the clouds, oldtimer. Us “kids” are fixin to throw down.

    begins snapping

    Keep cool, boy.

  51. 51.

    DougJ

    Maguire is a complete jack ass. When I was busted trolling on the right-wing sights — his, Protein Wisdom, Red State, etc. — he edited my comments to say “I pooped my pants” or something asinine like that.

    I have zero respect for that guy. Believe it or not, I have a smidgeon for Goldstein, Erickson, etc. They take some pride in their blogs.

    Maguire is beneath contempt.

  52. 52.

    Comrade Darkness

    Mmmm, I love the smell of WATB oozing from the intertubes.

    Shorter Maguire: I’m relevant! Really!

  53. 53.

    Mike S

    My favorite comment in the thread:

    I, for one, would appreciate the American military doing here what they’ve done in Iraq and Afghanistan:
    Overturn a corrupt regime (the US Congress) and help to restore freedom and our Republic.
    Posted by: fdcol63 | April 20, 2009 at 09:18 PM

    Because nothing says American Patriot like calling for a military coup to overthrow your elected government.

  54. 54.

    Zuzu's Petals

    @John Cole:

    Once again John, I have no idea why you still include that sleazemonger on your blogroll. Seriously, the guy is incapable of an honest discussion and the comments section is a cesspool.

    Oh yeah, he’s also known for monitoring any site that happens to mention his name, so … hey there, Sleazy!

  57. 57.

    Zuzu's Petals

    @Mike S:

    I have never seen him rein in a nutter, no matter how incendiary the comment, nor encourage a more reasonable tone overall. Never.

  59. 59.

    pharniel

    @Mike S:

    Isn’t that, well, the very definition of Sedition?

    That’s the kinda thing that should be forwarded to the FBI because it’s precisly the kind of thing the report was warning about.

  61. 61.

    Svensker

    Gosh, John, they accuse of you being outraged at the drop of a jock strap. Is that true? The ensuing discussion should bring much of interest from Laura and Fuckhead.

    Now, if you need backup at the fight, I am great with fingernails and kicking. Just ask the boys who were in my 3rd grade class!

  62. 62.

    Comrade Darkness

    In the light of day, glanced at that site. I had no idea it was possible to circlejerk psychological projection.

    @Zuzu’s Petals, ah, good to know. I was thinking of putting in the vote tallies on a few troop support bills, but decided he looked like the type to have no scruples, so I left their stupid myth lie.

  63. 63.

    August J. Pollak

    He… he understands that linking to someone on a weblog isn’t “saying something to their face,” right? I could have sworn saying something to someone face requires them to leave their basement so you can actually encounter them in person.

    Is that really how ingrained webloggers are now? That cross-linking counts as physical interaction?

  64. 64.

    Zuzu's Petals

    @Comrade Darkness:

    As far as I know, he doesn’t actually publish your IP address (ala Alkon), just lets it be known he has it…and then lets his commenters do the harassing.

  65. 65.

    Tsulagi

    At issue is I apparently forgot to include Sullivan’s link to Maguire

    He’s been victimized!

    Rule #1 for the loony 28%ers: Never pass up an opportunity, no matter how small, to be outraged at constantly being a victim. It defines their fighting abilities to their fellow widestanding teabaggers.

  67. 67.

    BruinKid

    I don’t get it, I remember reading that post. Didn’t you already have the link to his post anyway?

  68. 68.

    Batocchio

    I commented on this one elsewhere – if we stick with content, in the key paragraph Maguire is essentially saying, it’s okay to shred the Constitution (the 4th Amendment) as long as you don’t shred the Constitution (the 1st Amendment). He’s trying to split hairs, but the hair is a Mobius strip. His piece reads as cognitive dissonance and the desperate BS of an authoritarian tribalist to me. But if he acts snitty and tries to make it personal, maybe you won’t notice he’s got nuthin’.

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