Well, the #dickwhisperer sure has stepped in it now:
The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank and Chris Cillizza host a regular video feature on the paper’s site called “Mouthpiece Theater.” The two sit around in smoking jackets in a fake library — it’s supposed to be a parody of “Masterpiece Theater” — and try to offer a funny take on political events of the day.
At least, that’s the idea.
Today’s edition focused, not surprisingly, on the Crowley/Gates meeting with the president yesterday, giving Milbank and Cillizza a chance to make all kinds of beer jokes and beer-related puns. In a bit about which beers would go to which political players if invited to the White House, we heard a variety of rather predictable jokes. David Vitter could enjoy “a nice cold Happy Ending.” Dennis Kucinich would have a bottle of “Insanely Bad Elf.” The French delegation could be served “Frosty Frog.” You get the idea.
At the 2:35 mark, Milbank tells the viewer, “And we won’t tell you who’s getting a bottle of Mad Bitch.” At that point, a photo of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appears briefly on screen.
It was one thing when he called Nico Pitney a dick. But now he will have to deal with the wrath of the Puma’s.
The PUMAs vs. a couple of the more annoying Villagers? Is “mutual annihilation” one of the possible outcomes? Please?
Hey, it’s not just the PUMAs who are pissed. I think it was a shitty joke. Vitter earned the “Happy Ending” joke via his own behaviour. But the all-purpose “bitch” was applied to Clinton because, well, she’s Hillary. *nudge* *wink*
Don’t they fire anyone over in D.C. anymore? If ever there was ever a fireable offense, this is it.
Then again, this is the paper that happily prints George Will, Mike Gerson and Chuck Krauthammer. Never mind.
I got nothin’ on this. Just wanted to say that I have clocked in early, I’m glad Cole is posting again, I have liquor strategically deployed and I’m ready for an evening of link-swapping with Laura W, concern-trolling with stephen s (real or fake) and whatever else the night may bring.
Fuck the PUMAs – I am pissed.
I was not a Hillary supporter, but she is now our Secretary of State and at the very least deserves some RESPECT. I don’t recall this kind of bullshit happening to Condi Rice. Sure there were plenty of policy matters to criticize her for, but I don’t remember anyone openly calling her a crazy bitch.
Fuck Dana Milbank and the horse he rode in on. I hope he unleashes a fucking storm of rage and gets shit-canned, but since he works for the WaPo, I doubt it.
Rob in Denver
Froomkin gets sacked and this unfunny self-indulgence claptrap fills the void. Of course, neither Cillizza, Millbank nor the WaPo understand that viral videos go viral because they’re either spontaneous and/or really fucking cool/stupid/funny/candid/whatever.
It’s no wonder print journalism is sounding its death rattle.
I dunno, the most disgusting thing in that vid is that Obama chose, actually chose Bud Light. Not a beer snob, but damn, man, have some sense of taste. At least he didn’t also order up a plate of vanilla wafers and Velveeta cheese for munchies.
Englishlehrer on vacation
This may sound weird but living at least 9 months a year in Germany, I look forward to coming home to California and getting a Miller Lite with a lime in it. I miss light beer sometimes, I really do.
But now he will have to deal with the wrath of the Puma’s.
Remember that, all by himself, he probably outnumbers the PUMAs. At least the ones that aren’t Republican ratfuckers.
What John S. at #5 said. Dana Milbank is long overdue for his deserved appointment with feathers and hot liquified roofing material.
Also, am I the only one who’s noticed that after all the hand-wringing during the Veepstakes about what sort of drama the Clinton’s would drag in, Secretary of State Clinton has proven thus far to be both very effective and very under the radar? Unlike say the guy who actually got the VP nod?
Barely. rain for three days and now I barely have an internet connection. Between comcast and this shitty website, I can barely do anything. I haven’t been able to access aol im or my gmail in 7 hours.
At least he didn’t also order up a plate of vanilla wafers and Velveeta cheese for munchies.
Oh God I love Nilla Wafers
I guess Milbank should be drinking Fat Bastard.
You are not escaping the wrath. It comes for any who condones ridiculing the Queen. Your Hillaryhate is so strong that you cannot even condemn those who spread this kind of crap. You just mock those who actually have the courage to criticize sexism (the fact that I’m a single male in his forties, well that’s just a coincidence).
This place is like Jonestown. I’m starting my own blog for real Democrats who know the order it was supposed to go in and realize that Palin and Clinton both were kneecapped by our media before they could ever move the lovely ladies forward in our society.
I haven’t been able to access aol im or my gmail in 7 hours.
Sounds like you need a better cell phone
Wow, that’s almost seppuku territory.
Thanks for that song, I’ve had “Kiss the Girl” from The Little Mermaid stuck in my head that last 2 hours.
If you must know:
and later in the thread:
@John S.: I dunno. The Mad Bitch line was adolescent and all, and firing folks whose job is to be adults for very publicly being adolescent is fine by me.
But I’m not down with the s/he is the SOS/VPOTUS/POTUS so show some respect line. These are jobs, not hereditary titles. The folks in these jobs are employees, not monarchs.
I respect Clinton, Biden and Obama because of what they do, not because of some title. “Secretary of State” is certainly no less respectable than “Janitor.” Both jobs CAN be done with dignity and integrity. But neither title tells me whether the person in the job deserves respect.
And what I hear about what Clinton is saying to the British about intelligence sharing makes me less enthusiastic about the respect I have for all three right now. No title changes that.
the wrath of the Puma’s what?
Milbank’s such a dick.
Or the wine that same company produced a few years back, Utter Bastard.
Meh. I think the PUMAs are more about hating Obama than loving Hillary.
Checked a couple of PUMA sites, one is on hiatus, another had this:
<blockquoteJust like last year. Now all we need is the Failbots:
So it’s still Obama supporters’ fault, or something. The rest of the post is along the same lines, still recycling bitter victimhood from a year ago.
(I guess “failbots” refers to people who supported the guy who won the nomination and the election.)
Oh for the fucking love of God (the love of fucking God? The love of God fucking? I’m sorry, I just distracted myself) — what is wrong with Dana Milbank?
I wish I had something wise or witty to say beyond that, but honestly, Dana Milbank is one of those people who just leaves me blinking.
hmmm. can’t edit anymore? Here’s what confluence had
I’m pretty annoyed by your implication that only PUMAs would or should be pissed at this.
I was not a Hillary supporter, but she is now our Secretary of State and at the very least deserves some RESPECT.
I wasn’t a Hillary supporter, either, but some of the attacks on her during the election were so mind-bogglingly stupid I often found myself in the curious position of defending her.
OT – but I thought you trekkies would enjoy this. (Only in NC – sheesh) a bill to build a “Star Fleet Academy”
Personally, I’d like to serve these two unfunny assholes a nice, frosty mug of SHUT THE FUCK UP followed by a chaser of FUCK YOU.
If they had suggested the Mad Bitch and put up a picture of Palin, I would have laughed. But it still would have been wrong of them to do it.
I think Arrogant Bastard would suit him much better.
I was a fan of Cillizza, but I’m over it. He leans to the right, or fawns, or caters, or has the habit. I’m sick of the entire MSM and their inability to get over the fact that the conservative movement is totally and utterly bankrupt.
The only thing they have going for them now is the birther movement, since the tea party thing proved to be a bust.
This is like Alien vs. Predator. No matter who wins, we lose.
I’d give a week’s pay to see the WaPo White House correspondent show up for the next Obama presser, have his press pass badge ripped off it’s lanyard by the Secret Service and be walked out of the room and out to the street.
Maybe it’s time. Access this, bitches.
The entire segment is pretty loathsome, not just the Hillary part.
I think what irritates me the most about these two is that they actually believe they’re funny, like they’re Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert or something. They’re not. They’re two douchebags in smoking jackets, and honestly, it’s all they’ll ever, ever be.
She’s dropped the ball on Honduras, so she’s not so hot herself.
How about the wrath of people who just don’t like stupid, obvious jokes?
Milbank confuses snark with smarm. Common with those who consistently clap on the wrong beat. Probably incurable.
This has me curious, is there a BJ hashtag?
Might I suggest “#burkeanbells”?
@Tsulagi: Something everyone seems to be missing about President Obama’s Bud Light choice? It’s one of the last “union beers” made in America.
Walk into a local Democratic Party election watch party with a 12-pack of Coors Light, for example, and you’ll be asked to leave your non-union beer outside. It’s just one of those things, really. Learned this lesson the hard way, years ago…
I can’t exactly defend the choice, but I can tell you that my people (the people of Chicagoland) have astoundingly bad taste in beer, and it looks like longtime resident Obama has picked it up. He actually made one of the better available choices — he could have picked Old Style or Pabst Blue Ribbon.
What do you think she should do about Honduras? From what I’ve been reading, the US is supporting Zelaya, the ousted president. Al Giordano has been reporting from Honduras; the First Lady, Sra. Castro de Zelaya said in a speech that the US State Department has given the coup leaders an ultimatum to step down. I doubt Obama will send in the Marines, though.
He’s the antichrist. The birth certificate doesn’t matter.
What does it mean that I’m drinking Mothership Wit? I’m a fan of Parliament/Funkadelic? (Why yes, I am) I’m a wit? Well, I try, but I’d never make the claim myself.
John, you know, I’m sure as hell not a PUMA but was just as pissed off at the Dick Whisperer and his Douchey Sidekick as they probably were. It doesn’t have anything to do with politics, it’s just sexist, plain and simple. It’s also totally not funny, because it doesn’t make any sense in the context of her job as Secretary of State, and just seems like some kind of random, worn-out, cheap shot.
The entire “sketch” was awful. Who approved and paid for that, that’s what I’d like to know.
You know, Hillary has had to endure a shitload of crazy ass indignities for damn near 20 years (she’s ugly, she killed Vince Foster, she’s Bill’s enabler, etc., etc.) and now these overpaid twits are reduced to incoherently mumbling bitch ever so often.
Really? That’s all of you’ve got? Better insults please.
Women hear bitch so often that, at least for me, we think it’s our name. I for one, would appreciate a little creativity in a misogynistic put down, but then that would be assuming that one of those fuckwits ever had an original thought.
Maybe one of these days, this type of lazy ass insult slinging will go the way of the dodo – but I doubt it.
How about some Emmylou Harris? Nice listening with a can of Bud Light and a Manwich sandwich on a Friday night…
Walk into a local Democratic Party election watch party with a 12-pack of Coors Light, for example, and you’ll be asked to leave your non-union beer outside. It’s just one of those things, really.
For pete’s sake, does this childish crap still go on? This is the kind of garbage I’d expect from Repig blue-noses sniffing every product choice for any taint of commie-Klinton-Obamunist-IslamoMooslim political content.
No, no, no, firing’s too good for them.
Make them the Nationals beat writer.
Read Al’s posts “Honduras & The Three Ring Circus” dated July 24th and “Secretary Clinton Doesn’t Get The Power Of Nonviolence In Honduras” dated July 17th. That’s what I’m talking about.
I won’t go into the optics of how her buddy Lanny Davis goes about representing the coup government, either.
Dana Milbank isn’t a bad reporter as judged by Washington press corps standards, but he always gets in trouble when he tries too hard to show how cool and awesome he is.
@Kyle: Um…BS, dude. I don’t buy Coors, either — the family has too long a history of busting unions and funding right-wing hatemongers.
Upon reflection, a more appropriate punishment for the “bitch” remark would be to be made the beat writer for Maryland women’s basketball. Call Brenda Frese a bitch and see what happens. One of her 6’5″, 220 pound post players will take you out behind the Comcast Center and … umm … counsel you about your poor choice of language.
@Kyle: Well, Coors was probably the worst example, because they’re a shitty company to work for. Just ask one of their beer reps if you don’t believe the guys that bottle the stuff.
But yes, it still goes on. Personally, I don’t have a problem with it. I’d rather be in a party that pandered to the Teamsters than the insurance industry or Halliburton, but maybe that’s just me.
Hey, do you want the WaPo to drive away the last group of people that will actually pay for content?
Besides, the region has become inured to mediocrity, both in its sports team and in its transients.
Heh, in the time it took me to compose my post, you said all that I was gonna say and did it better!
@Seebach: Oh yeah, I heard about that one way back last April…
And lo and behold, that’s when Snopes debunked it.
Well, if you send those two dorks to Sports, you could have Kornheiser and Wilbon cover the White House and the Hill. Now THAT would make PTI worth watching. I can hear Wilbon on the health care negotiations:
“So that knucklehead Baucus got hisself played by Enzi. You got played by Mike Enzi? You should just give up and go home. That’s embarrassing.”
What do you think she should do about Honduras?
Call Lulu (or Arias or Bachelet), ask him to lead, and then STFU.
The US just cannot be the leader on every crisis in the world.
These days, bitch seems to be used to mean “woman who is not a doormat”.
Why doesn’t the Post turn over the WH beat to Chuck Smith from Woodbridge? Motherfucker aced me out of more t shirts than I can count. I’ve still got a stack of bumperstickers laying around somewhere though.
@TX Expat: I really hate making those hypothetical-equivalence arguments, but truly, if they had said that about Condoleeza Rice, I’d have been every bit as offended.
Thing is, they would have never in a million years said that about Condoleeza Rice. And I think that’s something worth pondering.
God damn it, people, now I want vanilla wafers.
Jim is right. The PUMAs haven’t cared about Clinton, for better or for worse, since the Democratic convention. It’s all Obama hate all the time.
Oh noes! Someone’s in trouble. The video has been pulled.
Me as well. Same with Sarah Palin or any other woman. If you’re gonna criticize someone, then base it on something other than their gender. I wasn’t a PUMA, but I do respect Hillary for putting up with a boatload of public abuse over the years and sticking it out in public life.
But too many of the male media elite just reach for the easiest slur imaginable then congratulate themselves for their clever witticism.
Sexist pig fuckwits, both of them. I hope women are flooding them with the derision they deserve. WTF is going on in this country? We’ve had open, in your face racism directed at our president by both our elected officials and those we entrust with our airwaves. And now it’s perfectly okay to call the Secretary of State, who though I didn’t support for president has been pretty much no drama and quite competent (if not always my cup of tea), a bitch? We’ve been transported back to 1973 and I’ve about had enough of it.
Second this. You’d think, with all the ‘craft beer’ out there, somebody would be offering a Smug D-Bag label, but of course Milbank & Cillizza prefer drinking Dubya’s… bathwater.
@Ana Gama: Nobody could have predicted! I wonder if WaPo will now end the failed “Mouthpiece Theater Experimental Comedy” Experiment? Media Matters has you covered with the vid, though:
@TX Expat: What you said. To the punctuation.
And you’re right they would’ve never said it about Rice.
Go easy on the guy. The NYT does the same damn thing, day after day, year after year, even on the front page. “SUV’s” indeed!
This sort of mishap is inevitable as long as comedians and comic writers are making obscene amounts of cash at The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. Newspaper’s can just not afford the obscenely high wages comedians are accustomed to.
Do you mean to say that “the antichrist” *has* a birth certificate? If so, do you know what it says?
Dana & Chris (overcompensating much, boys?) were kind aiming for 1963 — post-weed, pre-Vietnam. Since their fellow courtiers on the Media Village Idiot cocktail circuit are largely aiming for ’53 (1953 for the ‘liberals’, 1853 for the ‘conservatives’), this makes them feel dangerously avante-guarde and edgy. Pro tip, for the inexperienced: If you think you’re being “edgy”, you’ve just established for the rest of us that you couldn’t get an edge at the Wusthof cutlery factory.
I just can’t wait to hear what these two cheesefucks have to say once they come up for air after drowning in a tide of righteous indignation.
Chances are I won’t hit on my bet of “Well…’bout time to be hittin’ the ol’ dusty trail…”
@Anne Laurie: Perfection.
Name: Damien Thorn
Mother: Unidentified she-wolf
Place of birth: Creepy Italian Cemetary
Date of Birth: June 6, 1966. 7:06 am.
You can find the birth certificate with an obscure sect of monks located in the Alps.
Stay away from ravens, dogs, elevators, and 18-wheel trucks for at least 72 hours after reading this message.
General Winfield Stuck
‘Death to Whitey’,, of course. At least that’s what the video shows.
@TX Expat: Of course. The only good women (and minorities for that matter) are the ones who join the Up with White Men party. Those women/minorities are okay if they know their place, but if they get uppity it is time to remind everyone just who substandard women/minorities are.
@John S.: This.
@Ana Gama: This was on TPM
milbank and the pumas deserve each other. and god help me, but i’m rooting for the pumas
@Anne Laurie: Thank you.
What makes the insult utterly gratuitous is the fact that our Secretary of State is not difficult to get along with. I’ve met her, briefly, and my own experience confirmed that she is gracious and very pleasant.
I mean, it’s not like she’s over thrown a cell phone, or anything. It’s just something calculated to insult any woman.
And it does.
Holy shit – what parallel universe have I stumbled into?
Both Ahn-drew and Bobo are OK with a public option????
Damn, Toto, we are a loooooooong fucking way from Kansas.
Anne Laurie / 9:06 pm
“Overcompensating much, boys?”
Priceless! I’ve just had a Shiraz-on-BlackBerry Moment.
Washington Post has pulled the video! Apparently they have SOME shame.
I feel like I am going around in circles.
This post cements it. Same topics, same commenters.
Where can I go to read original content on the liberal side?
Seriously, it’s the same posts on every blog.
Any outside of the box ideas?
Holy crap, are us honkeys stupid or what?
QUESTION: Do you believe that America and Africa were once part of the same continent?
WHITE 35 30 35
BLACK 63 13 24
LATINO 55 19 26
OTHER/REF 56 19 25
Look at the black folks out-testing everyone!
Yes, No, Not sure
WHITE: 35, 30, 35
BLACK: 63, 13, 24
LATINO: 55, 19, 26
OTHER/REF: 56, 19, 25
Just Some Fuckhead
@Steeplejack: I’m gonna wait for the Friday Night Open Thread. Nothing worse than commenting with a bunch of pissed-off bitches.
why the fuck would any of you guys actually drink Coors Light to begin with?
Martin – that’s probably because the white population has been weighted by the Southern Baptist crowd that still believes the Earth is 6000 years old. How could you believe in continental drift when you don’t believe in evolution or in the actual age of the planet.
@Just Some Fuckhead: I think I just heard the turd hit the punchbowl.
Actually, with all the new-minted Beer Snobs out there, I’m surprised some enterprising brewery hasn’t come out with a Smug D-Bag label. Something light, but fruity — perhaps using the same blend of HFCS and chemicals that provides the Twinkie(tm) mouth-feel — but with a high enough alcohol content that the noisy buttwipe yawping at the next table will suck down a couple & end up passed out in his own vomit on the men’s room floor before you, the sender, have your evening totally spoiled.
@Martin-Holy shit, that’s pathetic.
Well, at least partially so. The good news: Most blacks and latinos learned something in school! Unfortunately, most whites didn’t. And yeah, it’s probably because the white #s are skewed by the fundjuhmenkalists.
I wouldn’t worry too much. He is, after all, just some fuckhead.
So, it’s institutionalized stupidity?
Is Forensic Files the best show on TV, or the bestest?
It is indeed tacky and offensive to be juxtaposing the SecState with “mad bitch”: I suppose that I didn’t get that upset because the whole segment was so lame and unfunny that whatever power it might have had to evoke outrage was muted by what a total failure it was aesthetically.
Martin – I’d call it institutional ignorance.
No, ignorance is not knowing something. Stupidity is refusing to know something. Schools in the south aren’t great, but they aren’t this much worse, and they aren’t selectively worse for whites in the south vs blacks in the south. No, this is a population of people that *did* learn something but refuse to embrace it – that’s stupidity.
@Martin: Sully weighed in on that poll. Here’s what he said:
I attempted to reach through my monitor, grab his collar, and yell “PANGAEA!!” while shaking him profusely.
I mean, I’m still trying to give the dude some slack here, but things like this ain’t making it easy.
I asked my kids after dinner. They both said yes – quickly. My son said Pangaea but my daughter couldn’t come up with the name.
He’s 11 and she’s 8, so I’ll cut her some slack. But there was no question to either of them that there was a supercontinent. It’s sad when 8 year-olds (and she’s not even a geek like my son) outpoll such a large chunk of the population.
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Apparently the open thread never materialized. I wandered off to do a few things, got hit by the doze monster and just revived about an hour ago. Came back here all sheepish to find that I missed pretty much nothing. Weird.
Yeow. I hate it when I get a (usually lame) song stuck in my head. What’s worse, usually only a worse song can dislodge it. Glad that worked for you. It’s a hoary old chestnut, but, hey, good is good.
Holy shnikeys! I just read to the end of the thread and noticed that the blockquote in my previous message was not in boldface. And I didn’t do nothin’ special or nothin’. Yee-haw. Is the site healing itself? Get me the Papal Office of Miracles on Line 2.
As long as no one else is up and about, let me see if multi-paragraph commenting works.
Well, it didn’t work the first time. Let me try adding paragraph tags in the blockquote.
Fail again. Sigh. Okay, nothing to see here. Move along.
hey, john, fwiw, the website seems normal. i did the cookie thing for my work pc, but my not my home pc. And the website looks fine from home.
Dood, calm down, it’s WP.
And as for this:
Earlier today, I was chatting with my very own Wilma Flintstone and she told me she was dating again. The rub is this, her current beau is the same christy bible thumper she had a date with but spontaneously cancelled just after we met. When we dated, she would get legitimately pissed about how clingy he was, texting several times per hour, and now that she’s purged the cute heathen from her life, she’s gone back to the same guy who was previously grovelling at her footsteps. (cause every woman wants her man to be as sycophantic as an alterboy is to God) I give it a month before she’s sick of him, and a year before they’re married. For her own penance, I hope she gets her wish and they have like a thousand babies.
In the meantime, what aggravates me the most is that this wench had a failsafe. I don’t really have a Plan B, I just have a 19-year old named Taylor who texts me whenever she feels bored, but otherwise is super flaky.
/Friday night rant. [what the hell is wrong with me that I feel the need to share shit like this?]
You’re the one in the situation with the cute girl (Wilma above?) who can’t really date you because you’re not Christian (enough)?
All I can say, from my lengthy and checkered dating history, is that you’ve got to let it go. There are too many beautiful, intelligent, non-flaky women in the world for you to put up with this crap. You get this from women because you stand for it. You’re available as an emotional dumping ground, so Wilma dumps. And apparently it’s a general vibe you’re putting out, because flaky Taylor is picking it up too. “Hey, I have nothing better to do, I’ll text Freelancer and toy with him for a while.” You’re making yourself available for their bullshit, so–surprise!–that’s what you get.
And what’s the upside? Even if you got into a relationship with Wilma (or Taylor), you’d be in a relationship with a flake. Long-term prospects: not good.
Here’s a wacky thought. Try making yourself unavailable for their bullshit. “Sorry, can’t talk now. I’m doing something interesting [fill in the blank].” Either they will drop the bullshit or (more likely) they will take it somewhere else. Either way, you’ll be out of it and either in a place to have a better relationship with Wilma or (more likely) in a much better position to attract/meet a real woman.
It’s all about you, dude. Look at what you’re projecting to see why you’re getting what you’re getting. Yeah, it’s a bitch that you can’t have your fantasy relationship with Wilma, but, hey, Betty Rubble is out there somewhere waiting for you.
What’s a PUMA?
@Kevin K.: It’s an underage cougar.
Not only that, the stuff tastes like crap.
I don’t think Alastair Cooke ever appeared in a smoking jacket on Masterpiece Theater.
Great points, although I personally am somewhat underwhelmed by Secretary Clinton and don’t think that any of the Obama team have the chops to deal with the most immediate foreign policy issue, the potential devolution of Pakistan, and our confused and pointless escalation of the conflict in Afghanistan.
For what it’s worth, the current issue of the New Republic has focused on the foreign policy team and how Obama has effectively controlled competing egos and outlooks to give him what he wants.
A separate TNR article gives Secretary Clinton high marks for handling Honduras.
Plus he can’t stop crinkling up his mouth in an embarrassed smile like a sixth-grade girl asked to dance for the first time.
That might be just your particular people and Obama. I know many hundreds of beer-loving Chicagoans, and I’ve never seen anyone drink Old Style except at the ballpark. I’ve never seen anyone drink Pabst at all.
Anyway, it was just a would-be populist move. Had Crowley had the Bud Light and Obama had the Blue Moon, the omigodtehelitistpresident cries would be audible in Mexico City.
Is there such a thing as good taste in beer?