Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

If you still can’t see these things even now, maybe politics isn’t your forte and you should stop writing about it.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

I really should read my own blog.

Pelosi: “He either is stupid, or he thinks the rest of us are.” Why not both?

FFS people, this was a good thing. take the win.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Everybody saw this coming.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Hey hey, RFK, how many kids did you kill today?

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

He imagines himself as The Big Bad, Who Is Universally Feared… instead of The Big Jagoff, Who Is Universally Mocked.

There are some who say that there are too many strawmen arguments on this blog.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

Quote tweet friends, screenshot enemies.

Democracy cannot function without a free press.

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  4. 4.

    theturtlemoves

    Tray at the bottom is just the taskbar. That is a pretty cool feature. You can pin and unpin applications from it at will. You can also pin things to the start menu, if you want them there all the time. With the start menu, if you have Word or Excel or something in it and have recent docs, you can go straight to those by mousing right when there’s a right arrow next to the app name. Small thing, but I think it is kind of cool.

  6. 6.

    inkadu

    I’m liking Apple’s ass-kicking ads against Windows 7.

    The main thing I like is the angle, “If you’re going to have to move all your stuff anyway, why not switch to Mac?” When my dad bought Vista, he had to buy the Office Suite again AND stupid Outlook (because he’s old) and even then it was an effin’ disaster to migrate.

    Windows deserves to lose a few customers on migration,since they make it so expensive and so difficult.

    That said, Windows 7 sounds very nice and I’d be happy to have it over my house to play with Xubuntu. I’ll even make the grilled cheese.

  10. 10.

    BruceK

    I hate to think what it’d be like for my brother, whose iMac and iBook are both PowerPC-based; the only way for him to get up to date is to buy all-new hardware.

    Oh, and my answer to the Mac vs. PC question:

    …
    “If you’re going to have to move all your stuff anyway, why not switch to Mac?”
    …

    I’ve got an investment in hardware, including a new graphics card I installed because my old one spit the bit (a repair that wouldn’t be possible on any Mac other than the power towers). If Apple let me use their OS on my built-from-scratch PC, I’d be glad to give them a try.

  13. 13.

    General Winfield Stuck

    If there is a single issue that better illustrates GOP dishonesty more than it’s anti- Net Neutrality campaign, I don’t know what it would be. As the FCC is finalizing it’s rules to keep ISP’s from tinkering with the tubes by letting telecoms have control over content and functionality, John Mccain introduces a bill to stop it from doing so.

    And wingnuts rally to support the Maverick under the banner of “keeping the government out of our internet”. Or by framing the issue as anti-government regulation. When actually the opposite is true. Net Neutrality is based on the concept of keeping the telecoms from regulating the internets and the FCC, or government, is moving to see that no one interferes with the tubes, or regulates it. Not the government or anyone else.

  14. 14.

    MikeJ

    I’m guessing the tray is Microsoft’s version of something Apple has been doing for years?

    Which would be something Apple stole from Xerox or BSD.

  17. 17.

    yam

    I’ve recently moved to Win7 at work and the task bar is really the shizznit. It really beats the Dock in usefulness. I also like the new task switcher and how it shows only the current choice.

    Everything seems faster, though I haven’t done any actual timings to verify this. I just need to get rid of the fading in and fading out — I hate that effect. Just leave, spare me the nonsense…

  18. 18.

    Brick Oven Bill

    When I become America’s Next Great Pundit, I will incorporate nuanced sweet nothings to you LauraW, in each of my pieces, and each of my appearances.

  19. 19.

    tamied

    To Sylvia, or to whoever it was that renamed our little Bitsy to Little G, you have no scruples at all!

    However, when it comes to animal wellbeing, neither do I. Bitsy is now at 5532 after my vote.

  21. 21.

    r€nato

    I’m glad it’s working for you, John. I honestly wouldn’t care if people use a PC or a Mac… it’s just that for so very, very long Windows has been mostly a horror show.

  24. 24.

    Pasquinade

    Happy Bill O’Reilly Loofah Day!

    Five years ago today, a luminous young producer at Fox News named Andrea Mackris enriched all of our lives just a little bit by suing a lecherous fathead named Bill O’Reilly for trying to rub falafel on her private parts.

    The good people at The Smoking Gun are revisiting Mackris’ sexual harrassment complaint against O’Reilly, just for kicks, and we recommend you do, too—it’s got everything!
    [T]the Fox News Channel host was named in a sexual harassment lawsuit brimming with lurid details about vibrators, phone sex, threesomes, masturbation, Caribbean shower fantasies, a Thai sex show, falafel, stewardess trysts, vehicular coupling, and Al Franken.

    Everyone celebrates Loofah Day in their own way, but we like to pull out the sacred text and read aloud from its most memorable and moving passage—a transcript of O’Reilly’s late-night 2004 monologue to Mackris, delivered during the Republican National Convention, while he was watching a porno:

    “So anyway I’d be rubbing your big boobs and getting your nipples hard, kinda’ kissing your neck from behind… and then I would take the other hand with the falafel [sic] thing and I’d put it on your pussy but you’d have to do it really light, just kind of a tease business…”

    http://gawker.com/5380802/happy-bill-oreilly-loofah-day

  28. 28.

    Molly

    @BruceK: “If Apple let me use their OS on my built-from-scratch PC, I’d be glad to give them a try.”

    You could do it with an emulator if you felt like getting geeky. I have a Mac at home and run Ubuntu on my PC at work, and I run Windows on both using VMs. Yes, Apple has locked down OS X, but there’s always a way to get around these things if you liked to play around with it. I do, other people would rather chew nails.

    I’m a Mac and Linux person. I got sick of the indignity of reboots a long time ago. However, I spend way too much time on Windows boxes because I am the designated computer repairwoman in my family and extended family. I have spent hours cleaning infected PCs and restoring DLLs and dealing with driver conflicts. No thanks. I’ll take my Mac and save the money I’d be spending on vodka to deal with a PC.

    To each his own, I’m not an arrogant Mac or Linux user, it’s just what works for me.

  31. 31.

    Molly

    @General Winfield Stuck: “Someday, this geek war will end.”

    Too much passion involved, it’ll never end. And if you ever want some fun, get into a room of developers and throw out “Java or .NET, which is the best?” Then go get some popcorn. Lately they’ve been bringing up Ruby and Python and everyone settles down a bit, but it can still lead to blows.

  33. 33.

    sylvia

    @ tamid – I’m afraid this was out of my control!
    Like I said, Little Bitsy doesn’t seem to mind what you call her as long as there is a treat in the near future!

    @ Bill -Yay! Thanks for voting!

  35. 35.

    Brick Oven Bill

    Glenn Beck would not put falafel on one of his employees’ pussies and then talk about it. This is stuff that people like Ted Kennedy and Bill O’Reilly do. I am not sure what Barney Frank would do with falafel, but I would not eat or even touch any falafel that was given to me by Barney Frank.

    The ACORN spokesman, Levinson, after losing a debate (very good TV) to Glenn Beck, disrespected one of Beck’s female employees. This is what got Beck pissed at ACORN. Now look at them. You do not mess with Glenn Beck.

    Yesterday’s piece comparing architecture to politicians was also excellent. Sounds like Glenn now has somebody in the inner circle who is not comfortable with the Values and Principles of the Obama Administration. Honesty is always the best policy, and the truth shall set you free.

    This is a man who thinks. Glenn the dog should be proud of his namesake.

  36. 36.

    Peter J

    Five years ago today, a luminous young producer at Fox News named Andrea Mackris enriched all of our lives just a little bit by suing a lecherous fathead named Bill O’Reilly for trying to rub falafel on her private parts.

    Papa Bear sure has been awfully quiet about the Letterman story.

  39. 39.

    Skepticat

    @BruceK: The transition from PowerPC to the Intel-based MacBook Pro wasn’t a great deal of financial fun. However, once I was dragged kicking and screaming away from my dated Pagemaker and Freehand to all the Adobe CS programs, it was one of those why-didn’t-I-do-this-long-ago scenarios. And being able to run Windows on the same machine is great–even if I’m not exactly a Windows fan (and am sticking with XP). Now, if I could just find someone who wanted all these old Dell and PowerPC boat anchors….

  41. 41.

    inkadu

    @BruceK: Excellent point. My dad’s experience was after he bought a new computer with Vista… but how much is Windows 7 new? I don’t know that many people buy Windows any more. It’s about half the cost of a new computer, a computer that bundles Windows in for a very low price…

    I also never thought of Apple competing with Windows as an operating system. I’ve always thought of Apple competing against generic PC’s as hardware. But I guess that just shows how old I am.

    And for games, no O/S in the world is better than Windows. It’s 80% of the reason I’ll always have Windows around. And maybe some day I will inherit a computer fast enough to play Fallout 3.

  44. 44.

    Ed Drone

    Net Neutrality is based on the concept of keeping the telecoms from regulating the internets and the FCC, or government, is moving to see that no one interferes with the tubes, or regulates it. Not the government or anyone else.

    It seems to me that the actual “sides” in our political struggles are between the corporations and the government. Yes, there’s a lot of overlap (many governmental tasks are actually done by corporations), and the corporations themselves aren’t united in any way except in their animosity to government, but I think Business vs. Government is the name of the game.

    And the Republicans are opposed to government. Which makes me wonder why would anyone vote for them to run the thing? Would you choose a Catholic priest as your next rabbi? Or hire a home-schooler as your teacher? Or a faith-healer as your pharmacist? Hell, no, you wouldn’t!

    Republicans are antagonistic to the very idea of “government,” so why let them run it?

    Ed

  46. 46.

    MikeJ

    @Martin: No, stole, not bought. Xerox pioneered the gui. They demo’ed the same stuff to all sorts of people. The Apple guys. The Microsoft guys. Everybody. Apple made the Lisa. MS made Windows. Apple sued MS for stealing their ideas. MS defended themselves by saying, no we didn’t steal windows from you, we stole it from Xerox, same place you did.

    Yes, Apple bought Next. Next made insanely great computers. Thank gopod the talent they brought over to apple fixed that dog of an OS by putting a real unix under it. Pre OS X macs weren’t worth the lighter fluid it took to set them on fire. They’re pretty decent these days if you don’t mind big brother controlling your computing.

  47. 47.

    Beauzeaux

    One of the nicest surprises for me in Windows 7 is the revamped Windows Explorer. Navigating in its address bar is a breeze. Very nicely done.

  48. 48.

    Steeplejack

    Just voted and put Bitsy at 5,603.

    Have started wondering what I’m going to do when this contest is over, because I have developed a Pavlovian need to look at a picture of a lunkheaded dog and click a button every morning to start my day.

  49. 49.

    MikeJ

    Riiiight. (ahem) vi or emac?

    ed is the standard editor.

    When I use an editor, I don’t want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a “viitor”. Not a “emacsitor”. Those aren’t even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

    http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html

  51. 51.

    different church-lady

    The thing at the bottom of the screen is called the “Dock”, except that Microsoft can’t call it that since Apple has been calling it that for the past seven years.

  52. 52.

    Tattoosydney

    @burnspbesq:

    Are you completely certain that helping BOB get in touch with his inner ghey is good for society? This could end badly, yanno.

    I know. BoB’s manly protestations have convinced me he is 100% A Grade heterosexual. Also, no gay man could listen to Glenn Beck and not want to claw off their ears.

    Well, maybe this guy….

  53. 53.

    Demo Woman

    @Steeplejack: I know how you feel and hopefully she will win. I’ve been voting so long, that I really do think she is the cutest dog in the contest.

  57. 57.

    baldheadeddork

    @inkadu:

    I’m liking Apple’s ass-kicking ads against Windows 7.

    The main thing I like is the angle, “If you’re going to have to move all your stuff anyway, why not switch to Mac?”

    Because the hardware costs substantially more, for starters. I use a desktop and I need more power than the iMac offers – and I expect a much longer lifespan than you get with any all-in-one. Have you priced out a Mac Pro lately?

  58. 58.

    James K. Polk, Esq.

    Begun, teh Windows7 wars have.

    Seriously, it rocks.

    /popping popcorn with oil
    //adding yeast, thyme, salt and cayenne pepper

  61. 61.

    inkadu

    @baldheadeddork: Shit, no, I’m not buying a macintosh. They’re too expensive, and as far as I can tell, only worth it if you’re doing a lot of photo or video editing; and macs crash and software conflicts all the time just like any operating system not run by magical faeries.

    I just like the ad. It makes me pump my fist and say, “Oh yeah! In your face, Microsoft!”

    I have a spiteful personality.

  63. 63.

    Skepticat

    And steeplejack, if you go to the animal rescue site and don’t have your own favorite shelter, please consider voting for North Shore Feline Rescue in Middleton, MA, in their ongoing contest.

  65. 65.

    Dreggas

    You can keep the mac. I will keep windows and the ability to play the latest games and upgrade my box more easily.

  66. 66.

    Jon H

    @Molly: “Too much passion involved, it’ll never end. And if you ever want some fun, get into a room of developers and throw out “Java or .NET, which is the best?””

    The Java supporters are probably a bit butt-hurt these days, since Sun is pretty much in the crapper.

  68. 68.

    Alan

    @inkadu:

    I don’t think Macs dominate photo and video editing. Macs are just nice to use because you don’t need antivirus software; plus it has a few nice built in features. Like a dictionary, and the ability to print to PDF. And it doesn’t slow down over time.

  70. 70.

    Ned R.

    @GregB:

    I mean, just because friends of Roger Ailes, head of Fox News, are encouraging him to run for president in 2010 means nothing.

    I’d encourage him to run for president in 2010 too. Quite a lot, really. Admittedly I also want to be there next November when he gets a confused look on his face.

  71. 71.

    Brick Oven Bill

    From TattooSydney’s link:

    “A serious sex education begins by emphasizing the reasons why female sexuality is dramatically unlike male sexuality; it explains the natural reasons for female vulnerability. It explains to women why they like to be courted and how their sexual restraint can encourage a courting culture. It makes possible an education that does much more to rein in male sexuality.”

    This I agree with. The breakdown of the institution of marriage, as brought about by female suffrage, and the alimony, lawyers, etc., etc., causing men to just say no, has changed the sexual dynamic.

    Alpha males, even those of limited Character, like Bill O’Reilly, no longer are required to exercise restraint and can play falafel. Alpha males run roughshod over younger women in America-2009. Then, as women age, the Alpha males move on, and women marry younger tame Betas.

    Note how Barack shares the household duties and the picking up kids duties with Michelle. Barack Obama is a Beta male. This is why his inner self is scared to talk to General McChrystal. This is not good in a President.

    NY Times: Younger men marry older women.

  72. 72.

    Punchy

    @General Winfield Stuck: Perhaps he knew the location of where the hidden FOODs (Foods Of Obesity Designation) were, and the teacher couldn’t wait another minute when the innocent may uncover–at any moment–a stray Twinkie and gain 1.2 pounds because of it.

    Or maybe the teacher is a sick fuck.

  73. 73.

    Mr. Wonderful

    Not Really OT:

    Is anyone but me having headaches with the new Firefox? I’m writing this on SeaMonkey, is how much FF3.5 is driving me nutz. TIA.

  74. 74.

    James K. Polk, Esq.

    The “snap” feature is pretty cool on Win7… if you hold the windows key and push any of the arrows it will align the open window thusly:

    Win + Left arrow = Takes up the Left Half of the Screen
    Win + Right = Takes up the Right Half of the Screen
    Win + Up = Maximize Window
    Win + down = Minimize Window

    If you click and drag the windows to the corresponding positions, it has the same functionality, but I am a sucker for hot keys.

    Peak is nifty too… Windows + Spacebar

    Windows + Home minimizes all windows but the current one.

    I’ve been playing with the release candidate for a while :P

  75. 75.

    Obama Death Panel Chairman (formerly glocksman)

    @Alan:

    You just go on believing that Macs don’t need AV software.
    While OS X’s Unix based security is more robust than MS’s, it’s not bulletproof.

    Once OS X reaches the market penetration (if it ever does) level where it becomes worthwhile for the various virus/malware writers worldwide to program for the Mac, I suspect we’ll see a lot of Mac owners screaming at Apple while Steve Jobs says ‘hoocoudanode?’

  76. 76.

    Daddy B

    Mike@45 —

    Might want to revisit the past. Apple paid for their access to Xerox PARC, Microsoft didn’t. Apple made hugely significant changes to the relatively primitive GUI that Xerox had. Gates insisted that Windows look exactly like the Mac OS, only backwards and upside down.

    I’d be the last to insist that everything Apple has done has been the epitome of honor, let alone strict legality, but Microsoft’s entire business plan has always been to recognize that technology moves faster than the justice system.

  77. 77.

    ericblair

    @Jon H: Too much passion involved, it’ll never end.

    I look forward to the Google versus General Dynamics cybernetic neural interface flamewars. Oh sure, General Dynamics gives you fewer screaming migraines, but the free “beer goggles” Google app more than makes up for it.

    Vi versus emacs: both wimps. Real men use cat.

  78. 78.

    Uloborus

    I am unsurprised by your upgrade woes, John. I am unsurprised by the people going ‘but Vista was fabulous for me!’ right next to people going ‘Vista crashed every five minutes!’

    Here is the thing. Yes, Windows is a Hellish, redundant frankenstien in general, but by the time you get the finished product they’ve put enough makeup on it looks fine and you don’t need to worry. But they made it modular.

    Every application, and particularly every piece of hardware and the drivers that come with it, changes ALL of your Windows installation in subtle ways. They’re not self-contained. They interact, and Microsoft does not police or limit them like Apple explicitly does. This means that you can, oh, pick just the right modem, just the right anti-virus (notice how they’re not even related?) and when your upgrade program goes to use a piece of memory the programmers thought only they knew about, it’s not only in use, it’s already a mess of two conflicting codes overwriting each other, and suddenly you’re stuck in an infinite loop.

    You just can’t predict. Every slight variation in what you install and in what order produces a different machine with different vulnerabilities. My father likes to tell a story about a program for tracking stolen laptops and an application in (I think) McAfee’s security suite, by different publishers, that if installed simultaneously will cause an error so bad you have to throw away the hard drive.

  79. 79.

    Beauzeaux

    Mr. Wonderful, what headaches are you having with Firefox? I’ve noticed just one very minor issue.

  81. 81.

    Alan

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Isn’t the anti net neutrality movement just a way for the telecom and cable industries to avoid updating their networks so as to keep the U.S. technologically behind our competitors for profit?

  82. 82.

    ellaesther

    @Skepticat: Wow, thank you so much for posting that. Do you know, I used to click on each of those sites every single day, and have even done a decent amount of gift shopping on the sites, on the theory that it certainly couldn’t hurt and it might well help a smidge — but now I don’t know when I was last at any of those sites!

    I’m adding them to my tool bar or something. It shouldn’t take the place of real hand’s on activism, but each individual can only do so much — this is a way to add just a bit more on top of whatever else each of us chooses to take on in a substantive way: The Hunger Site (etc!).

  83. 83.

    Maude

    @inkadu: I have Xubuntu on the other partition on my old Sony laptop. I can’t use it with dial up because the dial up company don’t do linux. I have no other probs with them, so that’s that.
    Xubuntu saves old machines.

  86. 86.

    RSA

    ed is the standard editor.

    Why would anyone need more than a screen able to show a single line of text at a time for text editing? (Okay, two lines is a convenience, so you can see the current line and your current command.)

    My evolution in text editors involved a path from ed to ex to vi to emacs… and I stopped there. (This comment was typed in emacs and pasted into a browser text box, all on my PowerPC boat anchor.)

  87. 87.

    Uloborus

    Note: I know almost nothing about Win 7, though. I have no reason to think it’s changed that core dynamic, but developers going ‘thank you lord, everything seems to work smoothly!’ is a good sign.

  88. 88.

    Comrade Sock Puppet of the Great Satan

    “Xerox pioneered the gui. ”

    Actually, it was the Air Force sponsoring Doug Engelbart’s work on the Augmented Human Interface at the Stanford Research Institute (now SRI International). After SRI sold Engelbart’s group to Lockheed, personnel from that group defected to Xerox Parc.

  90. 90.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Alan:

    Maybe part of it is that. But I think it’s mostly so telecoms can install toll road like fees for certain types of users. ie Google, Yahoo, email, you name it. It would also allow for different lanes of access and speed for those who pay more and less. It sucks, and at this late date of the internet, to install such measures would cause a public uproar. IOW’s it’s about monopoly, and more profit. Sorta like the oil companies and big Pharma.

  91. 91.

    Mr. Wonderful

    Beauzeaux–

    I was going to say, “just extreme sluggishness,” but I re-installed 3.5.3 two days ago, and twice, now, the computer has crashed. Just shut itself off. WTF? doesn’t begin to describe it.
    SeaMonkey, which is also Mozilla but based on old Netscape, is lean and mean and nice.
    I see a lot of similar complaints on the FF support bulletin board, and very few solutions offered by the online helpers. But Rob Pegararo at the Wa Po says he’s not particularly hearing about problems. So I don’t know WHAT to think.

    Mr. W.

  92. 92.

    scav

    ok, so who’s going to insist that they word-process in assembler and/or hex. I’m a wimp, I still love vi and notepad for the other environment. haven’t had to do that in macworld so no preferences there. and, to continue a long-vanished arguement, my mother remembers a pre-wysiwyg wordstar too, so there long-vanished geek contrarian.

  94. 94.

    different church-lady

    @Obama Death Panel Chairman (formerly glocksman):

    Once OS X reaches the market penetration (if it ever does) level where it becomes worthwhile for the various virus/malware writers worldwide to program for the Mac, I suspect we’ll see a lot of Mac owners screaming at Apple while Steve Jobs says ‘hoocoudanode?’

    Yes, once market penetration makes Apple a more juicy target for virus writers, then more of them will attempt to attack Mac. However, they won’t find the same kind of gigantic gaping security holes to help them out as they do with the gentleman from Redmond.

    Which, of course, is not to say they won’t find some — they just won’t find as many as easily.

  95. 95.

    chuck

    What this geek-out needs is a car analogy, so let’s talk about this “Apple/Xerox/Grog The Caveman Nerd invented it first” business: Someone else may have long ago came up with the idea of putting wheels on an axle, but I *do not care* when it comes to buying a car. Sometimes my preferences don’t even require any new inventions, just existing ones done right.

    I’m actually not a great fan of Win7’s tray — I rather preferred how I could make it pop out to the left on the taskbar, and moreover how I could stretch that area for the permanent icons. The taskbar I long ago switched back to the classic behavior, though it’s not like I frequently click on taskbar buttons either way — everything I frequently launch I either have on a hotkey, or have pinned to the start menu anyway.

  97. 97.

    Alan

    @scav:

    I always loved WordStar, especially on a color monitor. I could run WordStar and save my documents on the same 5 1/4 floppy.

  98. 98.

    Obama Death Panel Chairman (formerly glocksman)

    @Alan:

    I’ve used Apples since high school during the early 1980’s and the Apple II’s DOS 3.3, but the high price of entry versus that of the PC shifted me to MS when I had to purchase my own equipment.

    Personally I’d love to legally run OS X on my homebuilt PC and would gladly pay Apple $100 or so for the software, I’m not willing to be limited to Apple’s hardware choices on machines in my (low) price range.

    Since Apple chooses not to ‘unbundle’ their OS from their hardware, MS or Linux are my only two real choices and since I like to game, that limits me to Windows.

  101. 101.

    Maude

    OT Roman is coming home from Switzerland. Don’ t think it’ll be like John Boy returning to Walton Mountain.

  102. 102.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    @Kirk Spencer: Depends. Quick edits to simple shell scripts? vi all the way. More complicated editing tasks? emacs. I used an emacs front end for years to do latex (best text layout program ever, as long as you don’t mind endless fiddling with figures and tables to get ’em just right.)

  106. 106.

    Tattoosydney

    Hello. How you?

    This is highly entertaining, and a little creepy – man pretends to be a child and writes to famous people asking for advice. Charles Manson is odd, Larry Flynt funny, Arnuld entirely non-responsive, and Clarence Thomas oddly endearing.

    [Also cribbed from here.]

  108. 108.

    Martin

    No, stole, not bought. Xerox pioneered the gui.

    No, Jef Raskin pioneered the concept of a graphical GUI. He brought the GUI ideas to Xerox and Apple. The famous Jobs visit was *after* Jef was working at Apple for a year or two and after much of the Mac interface was already ongoing. In fact, Jef never used a Xerox STAR until sometime in the mid-90s, long after the Mac was on the scene. The visit to Xerox was more an effort to show Jobs that the Mac concept was possible (without the Mac group having to build the prototype himself) and to show how the Mac concept was superior by eliminating a lot of the complexity in STAR. Bruce Horn and Larry Tesler also came to Apple from Xerox bringing with them ideas that they too brought to Xerox as well as things to avoid. Remember that the STAR was a Smalltalk system, and everything was based around that concept. Foundationally, the Mac was completely different.

    And Apple did pay – the visit was paid for in Apple stock, so Xerox walked away owning a percentage of Apple, which is pretty much exactly what Xerox wanted to happen out of PARC – it was a research group after all. The whole *point* was for people to turn those ideas into products, which Apple paid Xerox access to, and the originators of many of those ideas Apple had already been hired into the company.

  113. 113.

    inkadu

    @Alan: I don’t know anything for a fact, but my limited experience is that photographers, at least, much prefer macs. I doubt there is much of a hardware edge in video processing (they’d buy an Amiga if they were really interested in great video hardware!) but there is certainly a cultural edge. And if you walk into the Apple store, most of the software packages seemed to be around editing video, photo, or music.

    @Maude: I’ve got Xubuntu to save an old PC. It’s not technically that old — it’s the lower limit on a regular Ubunta — but I decided the fancy geegaws that seem to come with the newer OS’s are something I can do without. And it has the same core functionality, just a different desktop. More importantly, it has the same DYSFUNCTIONALITY, so I don’t ever need to fantasize that my problems would be solved if I just switched to Ubuntu and put up with slow processing. So no power management for me, and no video acceleration (which is a real drag). I still have XP when I need it.

    I just like Linux because I’m a cheapskate, and never forgave Windows for dropping support for 98.

    I also like to feel morally superior.

  114. 114.

    Brick Oven Bill

    If you are into aftertaste, I can provide that as well LauraW.

    Together, to Victory!

  117. 117.

    Beauzeaux

    @Mr. Wonderful: That’s strange. I’m unofficial tech support for several friends and family members and haven’t heard of any problems that severe. You could always roll back to a previous version, I suppose.

  118. 118.

    Wile E. Quixote

    @Obama Death Panel Chairman (formerly glocksman)

    @Alan:
    You just go on believing that Macs don’t need AV software.
    While OS X’s Unix based security is more robust than MS’s, it’s not bulletproof.
    Once OS X reaches the market penetration (if it ever does) level where it becomes worthwhile for the various virus/malware writers worldwide to program for the Mac, I suspect we’ll see a lot of Mac owners screaming at Apple while Steve Jobs says ‘hoocoudanode?’

    I keep hearing this from people who don’t know anything about computer security and it’s nonsense. Viruses aren’t written for Windows because of the market penetration of Windows. Viruses are written for Windows because it’s trivially easy to do so compared to other operating systems. Why is this so?

    1) Windows has no concept of privilege separation, none at all. In NT, Win2k and XP you have to run everything as administrator, sure, you can try to set up an account with reduced privileges to perform your day to day tasks but this soon became seriously inconvenient because Windows has no means, like UNIX does with sudo, to temporarily escalate user privileges to perform administrative operations.

    This did not improve under Vista. Microsoft’s attempts at security were the laughable User Account Controls, which was useless because of the number of false alarms that it raised (When I was running Vista the resolution would drop down to 800×600 every time I came out of the screen saver. UAC would then warn me, when I was attempting to put the resolution back to 1600×1200, that something was trying to change the screen resolution. Thanks Microsoft.). UAC was like having a car alarm that goes off every time the owner of the car unlocked the doors with the remote or started the engine. Most people ended up disabling UAC because it was so annoying. Then there’s Internet Explorer. Microsoft “improved” IE’s security in Vista by having it run in a reduced privilege sandbox. OK, that’s great, but the rest of the OS was running as administrator. It was the inverse of the security model used by every other OS out there which run processes with the lowest privilege level necessary.

    2) Microsoft made a deal with the devil back in the 1990s to kill off Netscape by hooking IE deep into the operating system. IE is more than just an application, it’s part of the OS. Then there’s ActiveX. Nothing like ActiveX, or “HyperActiveX” as my geek friends and I call it, exists on any other OS. Java applets can’t even come close to inflicting the kind of mischief that ActiveX can and has. It’s as if Microsoft said “Hey kids, here’s an easy way to write viruses, and it ships with every version of Visual Basic and Visual C++. Have fun!”

    3) Given a choice between writing operating systems that are stable and secure and writing ones that are “convenient” Microsoft has chosen “convenience” every single time. As an example witness how, in order to improve performance, Microsoft moved the GDI subsystem from user space into kernel space in Windows NT 4.0. Yeah, it improved performance, at the cost of allowing a poorly written video driver to take down the entire system. Microsoft keeps doing stupid shit like this which gives them a short term gain “Oooohhh, look shiny” but then comes back to bite them in the ass.

    I’m getting my copy of Windows 7 next week. I’ll be interested in seeing if Microsoft has learned anything and if they’ve managed to produce an OS that’s as secure as my Sun workstation was back in 1996.

  119. 119.

    Innocent Bystander

    Just bought a new HP/Compaq laptop at Staples yesterday. I was thinking about a netbook, but this beauty has a 15″ hi-def screen, 3 GB of RAM, 250 GB HD,built in webcam, and a separate graphics card. It also had the Win 7 O/S. All for just $379.00 (after rebates)! I’ve been a satisfied XP user for years…never made the move to Vista. My kids did and it was god-awful…too slow, difficult to navigate the file structure, and too many security related prompts.

    This Win 7 OS is really fast (I’m sure the RAM has something to do with that), but it is really intuitive and the file structure is well organized. The system doesn’t get in the way of the user, either. I like the new taskbar to anchor programs without cluttering the desktop. I was prepared to jump to Linux on this machine, but I really don’t see any advantage to do it now.

  120. 120.

    Beauzeaux

    Looks like OSX might not be completely tied to Apple’s hardware after all.

    The Rebel EFI suite allows users to easily install any OS on their computer. Rebel EFI allows machines with Intel Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, i7 or Xeon Nehalem CPUs to install any modern operating system, including Mac’s newest release of OS X.

    Let’s see how quickly Apple slaps a lawsuit or two on this.

  121. 121.

    inkadu

    @gwangung: I like to feel morally superior AND I like to play games AND I am flat broke.

    Otherwise, I would totally be rocking an iBook. I’d even put bumper stickers on it that’s how superior I am.

  124. 124.

    Wile E. Quixote

    @J.W. Hamner

    “Apple’s Snow Leopard Is Less Secure Than Windows, But Safer“… safer only because it’s not targeted by anybody.

    That article is bullshit. The security “expert” they interviewed is hung up on the fact that MacOS doesn’t have address space randomization and didn’t support execute disable until 10.6. Yeah, Windows has address space randomization and has supported execute disable for years, yet despite that Windows systems are still being compromised. Here’s the thing, if your OS is fundamentally insecure, runs every process as an administrative user with full control over the OS then it doesn’t matter how many nifty hardware features Intel puts into their chips or how much you randomize address space, you’re still going to have viruses written for the OS because it’s really easy to do so.

    Charlie Miller, the security “expert” they interviewed, has a PhD in math and worked for the NSA. He’s also a publicity whore. But I’ll take an OS which requires a PhD in mathematics who worked at the NSA to compromise it over one that can be hacked by a 15 year old with a bootlegged copy of Visual Studio and some rudimentary coding knowledge.

  125. 125.

    asiangrrlMN

    @Tattoosydney: I just saw this, and yes, funny and creepy. I actually liked the Unibomber’s response. Hm.

    Now, however, you’ve given me ideas. That can only lead to no good. Ta!

    B.o.B., well I can understand the soft spot even though I do not share it except when he goes into funny mode (in other words, non-political).

    I’m starting my yearly bout of bronchitis. How are you?

  126. 126.

    Shell

    D’ja know there’s a Cutest Dogs contestant called Stephen Colbert?

    With all this mention of Rufus, I’d like to get a look at his kisser. But there doesn’t seem to be an easy way to search the site.

  127. 127.

    catclub

    Wile E Coyote @115:

    You had me thinking you were sane and knowledgeable in relation to computers. Then you said this:
    “I’m getting my copy of Windows 7 next week. ”

    Thanks for playing.

  128. 128.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    I just stopped by to vote for Bitsy and John had a thread just for that! My vote was 5868! Go Bitsy.

  130. 130.

    catclub

    Wile E Quixote@121 stated:
    “Here’s the thing, if your OS is fundamentally insecure, runs every process as an administrative user with full control over the OS”.

    This would mean that privilege escalation is not even necessary. My understanding is that privilege escalation on Windows systems is too easily done, not that it is unnecessary.

    I suspect
    that processes started by non-admin users are not run at admin level.

  132. 132.

    J.W. Hamner

    @Wile E. Quixote: I’m no security expert, but I just don’t see evidence that Snow Leopard is more secure than Vista. If you were talking Ubuntu or something I’d see your point… but despite the Unix backbone, it appears Apple has whored it out enough to be as… or more… vulnerable than Windows… except all their users seem to think they’re invulnerable.

  134. 134.

    licensed to kill time

    Woke up, fell out of bed, voted for Bitsy and I lost my head. On the way downstairs I had a cup, somebody spoke and I went into a dream ” Aahhhh, ah ah ah, Bitsy’s at 5,886, ah ah ahhhhh ah ah ahhhhh…..”

  138. 138.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Laura W: I thought she was saying she wanted to get a look at Rufus:

    With all this mention of Rufus, I’d like to get a look at his kisser. But there doesn’t seem to be an easy way to search the site.

    I may have misunderstood.

  139. 139.

    linda

    i loves me some alan grayson…lol:

    GRAYSON: Well, my response is—and, by the way, I have trouble listening to what he says sometimes because of the blood that drips from his teeth while he‘s talking.

    But—but my response is this. He’s just angry because the president doesn’t shoot old men in the face. Oh, by the way, when he was done speaking, did he just then turn into a bat and fly away?

    MATTHEWS: Oh, God. We have got to keep a level here.

  141. 141.

    Laura W

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Oh no. That is very gracious of you but it was I who misunderstood and owe you the apology, Fuckhead.

    If I had a FREAKIN’ EDIT FUNCTION ON FIREFOX I would have deleted my entire questioning of your statement and backed off the board very slowly, shame-filled, self-flagellating all the while.
    (Is Shell a “she”?) (Ooops. I did it again.)

  143. 143.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Shell: It’s actually a pomeranian. They all look just like Rufus which is to say they all come in “cute”. Outside of that, they are one of the most hideous breeds of dogs, the apparent result of a breeding practical joke.

    Imagine a cat that barks nonstop- that’s a pomeranian. However, several of them together can take down and eat a full-grown beagle, which means they aren’t as worthless as a poodle, for instance.

  144. 144.

    Cain

    @Wile E. Quixote:

    1) Windows has no concept of privilege separation, none at all. In NT, Win2k and XP you have to run everything as administrator, sure, you can try to set up an account with reduced privileges to perform your day to day tasks but this soon became seriously inconvenient because Windows has no means, like UNIX does with sudo, to temporarily escalate user privileges to perform administrative operations.

    This isn’t true, at work we had a tool that can do sudo type stuff. It is possible to have such a thing.

    Cain

  145. 145.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Laura W: No, no, it was my fault for not prefacing my comment with a disclaimer that I understood Shell to be asking for a link to Rufus.

  146. 146.

    Anoniminous

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Someday, this geek war will end.

    Nope.

    One little known theory¹ says Language was developed by humans so two guys could sit around the campfire at night arguing which was better: flint or obsidian

    ¹ ‘Cuz I just made it up

  148. 148.

    GReynoldsCT00

    @Laura W:

    So the edit is a Firefox thing? I was wondering why I had it on my Mac at home but couldn’t see it on the PC w/ Firefox at the office

  149. 149.

    Violet

    Just checking in for the first time today. Sick all day with a stomach illness. No idea what. Nothing like hurling up an empty stomach for hours on end. Splitting headache too. Can’t seem to eat or drink anything. Not a good day.

    Did finally vote for Bitsy. She’s doing so well! I did hear back from a friend who tried to register and couldn’t, so there clearly was some issue with the site.

    Laura W, you’re shameless with the name change. All for a good cause. I hope BOB is recruiting a few Beckites to vote. Such dedication deserves a reward.

  150. 150.

    mantis

    So the FCC approved the net neutrality rule to go forward for public comment, and Droodge runs a picture of Julius Ceaser with the headline:

    JULIUS AT FCC WANTS TO ‘REGULATE’ INTERNET

    Open internet = nefarious government regulation

    FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski = Ceaser

    And this idiot rules their world.

  151. 151.

    licensed to kill time

    I have had edit on Firefox all along, and today it disappeared. Testing now…..

  154. 154.

    Demo Woman

    @Violet: Sorry that you are feeling ill. At least you have your priorities straight and voted for Bitsy. She’s up by 200 votes.

  155. 155.

    Brick Oven Bill

    Good God, Sean Hannity is a moron. I know he’s got nice hair, but come on. Gibbs mentioned two time slots that he was concerned about 5pm (Beck) and 9pm (Hannity). The White House thus has not declared war on FOX News, they have declared war on Glenn Beck.

    This is a mistake and Glenn Beck will prevail. The passenger pigeons are a very nice touch. He is mocking these guys and they do not know how to handle it. I used to think that Emmanuel was smart.

    The other thing about Hannity is that his theme song is about some chick burning down her house and, I think, killing her husband.

  158. 158.

    gwangung

    @inkadu: Well, that was MY excuse to buy my Macbook….

    I think the PC/Mac wars were more useful about a decade ago; right now, the functionality is close enough that I don’t think it matters–it’s more important how the OS fits into your own personal workflow.

  159. 159.

    R-Jud

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I am starting my yearly bout of bronchitis. Yay, me.

    You too? I skipped mine last year somehow– guess I was protected by the magical pregnancy fairies– so this year’s is doubleplus ungood.

    This veggie vindaloo I’ve concocted is helping, tho. Also, steam room time.

  160. 160.

    JGabriel

    Brick Oven Bill:

    The White House thus has … declared war on Glenn Beck. This is a mistake and Glenn Beck will prevail.

    Not in a real war. Glenn Beck has no stealth bombers.

    .

  161. 161.

    licensed to kill time

    It’s interesting that BOB can see Hannity’s a moron, but fails to discern that Beck is a blithering idiot who is still doing his AM radio schtick that he practiced in his basement as a teenager. Read the Beck story here, a three part series.

  162. 162.

    Sue

    Sorry if this has been discussed but I don’t have time to go through 150+ comments today.
    Why am I being requested to vote for “Little Glenn” above a picture of Bitsy, off to the left of the screen? I won’t click on it – high ick factor.

  165. 165.

    Violet

    @Sue:

    BOB said if Laura W changed Little Bitsy’s name to Glenn, he’d vote for her. In the interest of helping needy animals, Laura changed Bitsy’s name on the ads. BOB may also have said he’d recruit other Beckbots to vote for Bitsy if her name was changed, but I am not certain of that.

    The link still goes to the same place. Vote for Bitsy!

  166. 166.

    Napoleon

    PS, I never thought it would end up that Harry Reid has bigger balls and is more a friend of the working person then Obama, but amazingly that maybe the case.

  167. 167.

    ellaesther

    People, Bitsy now stands at 5,947!

    I don’t know what I can do to come up with the 53 votes necessary to push her over 6,000, but I’m going to try…!

    And of course, if you haven’t voted yet, Vote Bitsy!

    (In an aside, I quite genuinely think that this “Cutest Dog Competition” would be an excellent case study for anyone wanting to teach kids about elections: There are plenty of damn good choices on that site, if all you’re really going for is “cute.” But when you start to factor in other reasons why Dog A might be more “worthy” than Dog B, and then throw in the power of organizing [like us] and friends in high places [the big blogosphere muckity-mucks who have enjoined their readers to vote] — certain candidates begin to really pull ahead, don’t they?) (It also goes to show how much effort is required to get a measly 6,000 votes!)

  171. 171.

    Molly

    @MikeJ: “Bullshit. OS X is the easiest to hack of all operating systems available today.”

    No. I manage InfoSec for one of the largest software companies in the world. I appreciate this battle, but I see this every day, and again, I run a Mac at home and Linux at work, and I use VMs when I need to deal with Windows. It’s just too easy to exploit Windows. I can hack it in NOTHING, and it’s not a difficult skill.

    Everyone has their preferences, and that’s fine. I am not anti-Windows. It can be made safe enough for most people, gamers obviously want to run it, it’s got the most software, cheapest hardware, and it’s got the highest market share. And yes, there are vulnerabilities in OS X. But they are nothing compared to the ones you see in Windows, not to mention the apps that RUN on Windows.

    /end of geekiness. How is Little Bitsy doing now?

  172. 172.

    Gravenstone

    Heh, sub-head up on Yahoo News currently, “Is it better than XP?”

    Durrrr… I think the proper comparison is to the immediate predecessor, not cherry picking the writer’s personal favorite.

  173. 173.

    WereBear

    Ah, when it comes to Windows defending, there’s nothing like the person who claims they never have any problem with it; they just dust off the registries once a month, tweak the permissions, and reboot the kernal every so often.

    I know that is gibberish, and it is exactly what their advice sounds like to someone’s elderly parent who just wants to send email and play solitaire.

    Everyone who is over at elderly parent’s house and fixes their PC for the upteenth time should buy that person a Mac instead.

    Then you can eat your homemade pie in peace.

  175. 175.

    Molly

    @Wile E. Quixote: “I keep hearing this from people who don’t know anything about computer security and it’s nonsense. Viruses aren’t written for Windows because of the market penetration of Windows. Viruses are written for Windows because it’s trivially easy to do so compared to other operating systems.”

    This. :)

  176. 176.

    Brick Oven Bill

    Sun Tzu taught us that all warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must appear unable, when using our forces, we must appear inactive, when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away, when far away, we must make him think we are near.

    I operate covertly Violet, but have done my part. Here is a place where the respect given to Glenn the Dog can be advertized, and more votes can be garnered.

  177. 177.

    mantis

    gamers obviously want to run it

    We don’t want to run it, it’s just the OS that games are built for.

  178. 178.

    Molly

    @mantis: “We don’t want to run it, it’s just the OS that games are built for.”

    That’s a better way to say it. :)

    It’s a Friday, and there is a glass of wine with my name on it somewhere. Have a great weekend, all.

  180. 180.

    Sentient Puddle

    @Gravenstone: Uh…not really. At the moment, more computers (we’re talking something like three times as many) run XP than Vista, owing a lot to the horror stories they hear about Vista and the fact that XP is “good enough.” To them, comparing 7 to XP is very relevant, much more so than Vista.

  181. 181.

    Phoenix Woman

    @WereBear:

    My mother-in-law has Vista, and a good friend of mine has a MacBook.

    My MIL’s Vista box locks up about once a day because it can’t handle all the weird-ass file attachments her friends send to her (you know, the infamous joke e-mails laden with flashing smileys on steroids that people over a certain age have as their main usage of the internet?). My good friend’s MacBook has never, ever, EVER crashed. And he gets sent the same sort of crudware-infested garbage e-mails.

  182. 182.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    @ellaesther: The Bitsy contest is just like an election. Once everyone votes, the judges decide who wins of the top four vote-getters. There’s a Cute Electoral College.

  184. 184.

    LarryB

    @catclub: I think his point was, who runs as a non-administrative user? You cannot effectively run Windows as a limited user. You just can’t.

  185. 185.

    KevinNYC

    John, when you are done, you then need buy Acronis True Image and image your system. This way, should something happen, you can get back to your happy new install.

  186. 186.

    Martin

    @Phoenix Woman:

    iPhone is now the largest mobile platform by traffic. So, more data goes through iPhones than any other mobile platform. That would seem to make it the ideal target, but I’m not aware of any exploits.

    And iPhone OS is essentially a variant of Mac OS.

  187. 187.

    geg6

    @Napoleon:

    “Sources.” I am not a big believer in “sources.” Almost always when you hear the word “sources,” it refers to Rahm Emmanuel and his buddy, Max Baucus, both of whom love the trigger. Fuck Rahm. And don’t get me started on Baucus.

    Valerie Jarrett spoke earlier today and said something a bit different. She said, in as forceful a statement as I’ve heard from the White House, that the president wants a strong public option. No one, not even Rahm or Max, can argue from the facts that a trigger is any sort of strong PO.

    I tend to believe Valerie Jarrett. Especially since she didn’t feel the need to be anonymous.

  189. 189.

    asiangrrlMN

    @geg6: Yes. I agree. I am tired of all these sources. Though, I would fuck Rahm, given the chance. Maybe I could convince him he was wrong about the trigger being the way to go.

  190. 190.

    BruceK

    Oh, depending on what your brand of hard disk is, you might not even need to *buy* Acronis – there are Acronis packages available gratis for Seagate and Western Digital drives.

  191. 191.

    BruceK

    Also, and what, nobody’s griping yet about these newfangled cathode-ray doohickies wired into the computer? In my dad’s day, they used punch cards and paper tape and got their input and output from Flexowriters, and they LIKED it!

    Also, too.

  192. 192.

    licensed to kill time

    @LarryB:

    I run WinXP as a limited user when I’m online. I only rarely download anything and then usually it’s security software, so if admin privileges are needed I just switch over to my admin acct. It’s not that onerous for me; just sayin’ it’s doable if you aren’t a power user or whatever.

  195. 195.

    General Winfield Stuck

    Starting about now, the transom is going to be full of horseshit story after horseshit story on HCR and the PO. It’s sort of like the runup to Fitzmas, only a 100 times more so. Everybody with a keyboard wants to break the big scoop on what is really happening, and the leaks run the gamut on ulterior motives.

    Don’t wait for it to happen. Don’t even want it to happen. Just watch what does happen.

  196. 196.

    Gozer

    I lurve my custom Win7 – Core i7 machine, gotta love the 8 threads in the task manager.
    Now all I need is a decent SSD and radeon 5870 for Modern Warfare 2.

    [/e-peen stroking]

    Yeah I’m shameless.

  197. 197.

    bago

    @Martin: One of the last patches Apple sent out for the iPhone was to fix a vulnerability where a SMS message could own your phone. Oops.

  198. 198.

    Comrade Darkness

    @BruceK: All of my machines are power pc, I’m the holdout in the household because 5 years old and 7 years old and still working fine is, well, still working fine. PPC unlike Intel doesn’t suck batteries to death, so I’ve only had to change the batteries once, unlike every two years in the new ones we have.

    Moving is easy, you put the old machine in firewire mode, hook it to the new machine, boot up the new machine and when it asks if you’d like to migrate, you click yes. Then you go get a coffee. By this time all my apps are universal binaries, the the possible except of adobe, which hates being copied, I wouldn’t have to reinstall anything.

  199. 199.

    Comrade Darkness

    @ruemara: I haven’t owned mac a/v since, um, 1994. But I do always run Little Snitch. WAY important to keep track of what’s connecting outbound from the computer.

  200. 200.

    Comrade Darkness

    @inkadu: I especially liked the nice touch of the last (oldest) outfit on PC was Michael J. Fox from Back to the Future.

  202. 202.

    chuck

    @Wile E. Quixote:

    1) Windows has no concept of privilege separation, none at all.

    You can stop reading there. It’s utter absolute untrue nonsense. It couldn’t be more wrong if you marinated it overnight in wrong and covered it in wrong sauce.

  204. 204.

    electricgrendel

    Well- the lingo Apple used for the tray at the bottom that includes your applications (when they included it almost a decade ago with OS X 10.1) was The Dock. Feel as free to borrow the terminology as MS felt when they borrowed the innovation.

  206. 206.

    Molly

    @bago: “One of the last patches Apple sent out for the iPhone was to fix a vulnerability where a SMS message could own your phone. Oops.”

    Correct. iPhones are not completely secure. Nothing is.

    But I have a strict policy of not bringing work home, so I’m going to leave the security battles here and just say that nothing is safe and everyone needs to practice safe hex. :)

    You can all groan now.

  208. 208.

    Fulcanelli

    @Bong Water Bill: And when you’re as dumb as a dump truck full of Hitlers you worship a paranoid schizophrenic TV host who cries like an infant in between his polemic rants about minorities spoiling the world for white people.

    This is known as The Way.

    Back to the Temple for more calculations and pizza, Bill. Also.

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