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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.
Good lord, these people are nuts.
They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!
Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.
Republicans in disarray!
A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.
Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.
Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.
They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.
This blog will pay for itself.
Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.
After roe, women are no longer free.
I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.
I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.
And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.
Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?
An almost top 10,000 blog!
Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?
Eh, that’s media spin. biden’s health is fine and he’s doing a good job.
🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵
Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.
I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.
The next time the wall wtreet journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.
“Squeaker” McCarthy
I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.
gbear
Beats being half baked.
The Grand Panjandrum
Better than being half empty. I guess.
Lee
I was watching MSNBC while I worked out.
Chuck Tod was on and I decided on a his new moniker that I’ll use for him.
upChuck Tod. Since all he does is vomit back out the conventional wisdom of the day (which is typically Republican talking points).
Rick Ellensburg
Greenwald only has a New York Times Best Selling Book on the Bush Administration and its abuses of power. And he has one of the most-read blogs on the Interent, after 9 months of blogging. And Senators read from his blog at Senate hearings and his posts lead to front-page news stories in major newspapers.
Why would anyone think what he has to say matters? It’s not like anyone listens to him. It’s not like he’s John Cole, or kos, or Andrew Sullivan, or someone who really matters.
Great advice, you super-important bloggers should only to each other and about each other. Don’t bother with anyone in the Right because if you ignore them, they’ll just go away.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
another Sullivan post to make your blood boil
say what you want about the Cheneys, they know how to work the media, and the idiots don’t even know, or care, that they’re being worked. The really comical part about all this is they way the Right uses NBC as a boogeyman for their mouth-breathers, and as a pulpit for “centrists”
MacsenMifune
Since he gave up being a pollster, I’ve never heard Chuck say anything of value.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@gbear: I won’t be fully baked until about 4:21
Lee
Nothing beats being half-baked.
licensed to kill time
What is the sound of a half full thread ?
jibeaux
Has anyone ever had a beer which was meant to be mixed to taste with a tamarind-ginger syrup? Just wondering, someone was describing this concoction from a bar that is a nice place, but perhaps a little bit too interested in being “outside the box” – -they’re determined to have nothing on tap that you’ve ever heard of, rotated regularly with other things you’ve never heard of — who thought it was fantastic. My husband spent some childhood years in Latin America and remembers tamarind very fondly, so I’m just asking. Might play around with trying to make one sometime. (The syrup, not the beer, although I don’t know what type of beer you’d mix it with.)
gbear
Here’s a question for the Atlanta contingent:
I just ‘discovered’ the band Drivin’ n’ Cryin’ via the album Fly Me Courageous, which I really like. I tend to be more into albums than downloads, so which albums should I go with? Is the new album good? From what I’ve read, the band was huge regionally but couldn’t quite break nationally.
cleek
this job is 5% interesting.
also. i asked a couple of days ago if anyone here can edit (already-posted) comments with Chrome. a lot of said you could. well, when i try, the comment edit box appears way up at the very top of the window, and the page itself is still active (though pushed down to make room for the edit stuff). anyone else seeing that?
i’d love to use good ol FireFox, but the POS can’t find the internet. only IE and Chrome can talk to the world.
Robertdsc-iphone
I’ve got a bit of good news on the unemployment front. Right about the time I was laid off, a letter arrived in the mail from the US District Court in downtown LA. I was selected to be on jury duty! Since I’ve never been on a jury before, I sent back the questionnaire & I’m set to begin next week. The best part? It pays! Hurrah!
gbear
@licensed to kill time:
It makes the same sound as when no one responds to a troll.
slackjawedgawker
and rose-colored?
Mal Carne
The optimist says the glass is half full.
The pessimist says the glass is half empty.
The engineer says the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
Phyllis
@Robertdsc-iphone: I served on a federal jury two years ago in Columbia SC. We ended up convicting a young man to life in prison for 3rd offense drug & gun charges. It was my second jury experience. The first time was a death penalty case here where I lived that involved the son of a co-worker (who we have come to the conclusion was likely a serial killer-the son, not the co-worker). What I was most struck by on both occasions is the jury really knows the least of what’s going on.
geg6
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
You gotta be shitting me. This is why this bitch spawn of Pure Evil is on every goddam show on teevee? Because these assholes socialize with her?
Fucking media needs to die. Now.
MacsenMifune
Best advice for jury duty is to bring stuff to read, cause your going to do alot of sitting.
gbear
@Mal Carne:
Actually, the engineer says that the glass is properly designed for the load it’s carrying.
Phyllis
@MacsenMifune: If it’s federal, I don’t think you’re allowed to bring anything to read. We weren’t. It might be different for different states, but I don’t think so. They took my book away from me.
jrg
A couple of acquaintances of mine just left a church because they changed the rules to allow gay pastors, which angered them because they feel gays are immoral. They are now searching for a new church, but cannot find one because she wants to join a church where women can be pastors, but gays cannot (he’s fine with not allowing women pastors, BTW).
Naturally, I think their situation is hilarious, but a bit confusing. I’m hoping one of you folks with a fundie background can help me understand their situation better by answering a couple of questions:
1) At what point will a fundie realize that the golden rule is staring them right in the face?
2) At what point will a fundie realize that they are jumping through hoops to create a God in their own image?
Tonal Crow
@cleek:
Sounds like a proxy misconfiguration problem.
GReynoldsCT00
@Phyllis:
Oh, that’s beyond cruel…
Ed Drone
@Mal Carne:
So, how large should this thread be? And, since it’s thread, a question:
How long is a piece of string?
Answer:
Twice as long as from one end to the middle.
Speaking of thread (or string — does that make this post about string theory?), a friend of mine used to have a filing cabinet with labels on the drawers:
String, longer than 10 feet
String, 4 feet – 10 feet
String, 1 foot – 4 feet
String too short to save
For some reason, the bottom drawer had as much stuff in it as the other drawers, but none of them contained string. I always meant to ask him about that…
Ed
gbear
@jrg:
You should tell them that if they can’t find a suitable church it’s because God wants them to burn in hell.
valdivia
@jibeaux:
tamarind, or as we call it tamarindo, totally rocks. But even as dedicated a fan as I am of it I would not put it in beer.
I have been enjoying the free wifi on the acela, so fun to have this available. Must pack it in though as we are about to arrive in DC.
MikeJ
@cleek: Any extensions running on chrome? Could my pie filter be breaking it?
Here’s a whacky theory you can test. Firefox doesn’t use system wide proxy settings, IE and Chrome do. Which would explain why you can’t see the net with FFX. A misconfigured proxy could be getting bj.com to send the wrong javascript to handle editing. Hit your own site with chrome and see what the headers look like.
John Cole
@Rick Ellensburg: WTF are you talking about?
David in NY
@Phyllis:
So, Phyllis, you didn’t sentence the defendant, did you? The judge did, well after the trial on which you sat, I would think. How did you find out about the sentence? Were you surprised about a life sentence for a drug crime? Just curious (there is a developing literature about sentences as a rule being much higher than jurors anticipate in federal cases).
@Robertdsc-iphone:
I think you’ve actually got to be chosen to serve, however, so practice appearing to be on both parties’ side.
Zam
@cleek: I had that problem a while back with FF and IE not finding internet. I just can’t remember how I solved it.
jibeaux
@valdivia:
He had tamarind with bourbon once and really liked it. I was thinking maybe this concoction was along the same lines of how you add citrus to wheat beers, but I don’t know.
slackjawedgawker
@geg6:
but if they don’t put her on their shows, then she’ll be giving them the evil eye at Friday night’s cocktail party. It would be humiliating. Worse yet, she might not even show up – and her personal chef makes the most _exquisite_ meringue macaroons.
LuciaMia
Hope it pays better than here in Jersey. A whopping five bucks a day.
Ditto on the advice of bringing reading material. There’s a lot of waiting around. Also bring a sandwich.; the courthouse cafeteria is usually a zoo.
slackjawedgawker
@Phyllis:
Was it a Grisham novel?
carlos the dwarf
@jibeaux: Never heard of this, but where is this place you speak of? It sounds like the kind of place I would love to try.
@valdivia:
You got the wifi to work? It was so slow for me on the acela yesterrday that the only thing I could do with it was write an email to amtrak complaining about the slowness.
Randy P
@David in NY:
Nope. I just served two days of jury-waiting-room-duty at the federal courthouse. Never even got called to be in the pool of prospective jurors. We were told we’d be paid, plus reimbursed for transportation and parking.
Not, unfortunately, at the time. It’s supposed to take a few weeks. I forget how many.
Phyllis
@GReynoldsCT00: They gave it back at the end of the day. I also had a major faux pas when I showed up at the courthouse. Zipped right into the downstairs lady’s room after going through security upon arrival the first morning of the trial. When the bailiff came to get us to go upstairs, she quickly explained we should only use the juror bathrooms upstairs because attorneys & whoever could be in the public restroom and we could overhear conversations we shouldn’t. I was like, ‘damn, been here five minutes and I’m already in trouble twice over. Par for the course.’
Urza
While I was looking up the biblical reference Palin used to justify writing on her hand (it makes less sense in context), I ran across another quote that I sure hope makes it on tv today.
“ We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic? ”
— Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and U.S. vice-presidential candidate
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/sarah-palin-sees-eye-to-eye-with-albertans-in-calgary-speech/article1492634/
David in NY
@Randy P:
Well, just goes to show you never can tell. I’ve been called to jury duty in state court (NY), and you don’t get paid unless you get called. I practice in federal court, but have never been summoned to jury duty there, and wasn’t aware there was any difference in practice between federal and state court.
jibeaux
@carlos the dwarf:
Are you in the Triangle? It was at the Busy Bee in downtown Raleigh.
Phyllis
@David in NY: Yeah, that was poorly worded. The judge did that, after the trial. I saw it in the paper. The part of me that’s a knee-jerk do-gooder former social worker felt bad, because, sheesh, life in prison, and he was in his mid-twenties. His mama and sister were there in court when we brought back the guilty verdict and you could tell it hit them like a ton of bricks.
On the other hand, he was a bad guy. I’m not talking about third offense marijuana/recreational drugs for me & my buddies use; this guy was probably one of the biggest drug dealers in a three county area and had graduated to dealing stolen firearms as well.
For us, it helped to have a good foreman who was able to keep the group centered on the evidence and the judge’s instructions. Based on that, the decision was pretty clear cut.
slackjawedgawker
@jrg:
Good luck with that.
I grew up Catholic, so it’s not the same thing, but my answers would be:
1) When they learn and accept that one of their children is gay; and
2) Never.
I’m no expert on fundie churches, but honestly I’d expect that there are a fair number of them that accept women pastors while still hating teh gays. Presumably a lot more than accept both women and gays as pastors, no?
carlos the dwarf
Oh bah, I was hoping it would be somewhere in the Northeast.
geg6
@David in NY:
Here in PA, you get paid for both, whether or not you actually serve on a jury. Federal jury duty pays significantly more than local, though.
I’ve done both (several times), but never got put on an actual jury. And take a book because you’ll need it. Phyllis says they took hers, but that is probably because she was chosen for an actual jury. You are allowed to have your book as you wait to see if you are seated as a juror.
Otherwise, I’d kill myself rather than answer a jury summons because there is nothing more boring on this earth than waiting to see if you’ve been chosen as a juror.
gbear
I did jury duty on a case where employees were stealing out of a warehouse and got caught on tape. We pretty much had to convict the guy but we actually wanted more to convict his smarmy accomplise, who had tools and fake uniforms in his locker but also was the son of a higher-up in the warehouse. Dad pulled some strings and got his son off in exchange for ratting on the other guy. We were all kind of pissed about it because we felt like we were convicting the patsy and not the instigator.
jeffreyw
Gah..now you go with a open thread, after I linked to all my hawk pics already. Well, all but this one.
demimondian
@gbear: Alternatively, the engineer asks why the variation in the contents level is so high that so much material must be expended.
And, Cain? I’m editing this in Chrome on Ubuntu. So it works on that platform, at least.
Phyllis
@slackjawedgawker: Oh that’s great. No, I quit with Grisham a long time ago. I was about seven or eight months into widowhood at that point, so it was probably something grief-related.
Bill H
@Rick Ellensburg:
Actually, he’s been blogging quite a bit longer than that. He’s been on Salon for nine months, but he was on his own before that for quite some time. I was sort of worried when he went to Salon, for fear they’d tone him down. Ha. I was worrying about nothing on that one.
reality-based
On Weird Science in the Kitchen
Ok, Juicers, this is the strangest thing that’s ever happened to me in my 50 years of cooking. A little Google research, and I can now EXPLAIN the near-disastrous explosion that occurred last night while making soup. And no, there was no pressure-cooker involved.
Did you know that you can superheat liquids on a stove-top? This was almost a Cole-level improbable mishap.
On Saturday, I put a couple of nice, meaty beef shanks on to simmer for soup stock in my mom’s 5-quart pyrex Visionware kettle. – simmered them slowly for six hours, strained the broth through a sieve, returned it to the clean glass kettle. I left the fat on the broth, as it adds flavor – screw the doctors.
Yesterday, I put the kettle back on the stove on simmer to heat, while I cut up onions, carrots, cabbage, and rutabaga for soup.
I bring the cut-up vegetables over to the stove. The stock is simmering in an odd fashion – one large bubble breaks slowly through the fat on the top every few minutes – but I think nothing of it, start to dump the vegetable in the soup – luckily, my hand was about a foot above the pot, and protected with an oven mitt (I was also baking)
WHOOM! Soup in the kettle EXPLODES in a mass of froth and steam, about 6 cups of soup stock fly everywhere – stove, floor, countertops – I mean, the stuff EXPLODED. I got slightly burnt on my arm, but nothing that Aloe vera couldn’t fix.
The Explanation: You know how you can super-heat water in a glass cup in a microwave, so that it explodes when you jostle it or put in a tea-bag or whatever?
It turns out that one CAN – in extremely, extremely rare circumstances – superheat liquids on the stove. Usually, this has to be done in a lab! Last night’s explosion was an extremely improbable combination of:
1. A glass kettle, with no imperfections to form the bubbles ( a process called nucleation)
2. This typically happens with water – instead of soup stock filled with particles to aid nucleation/bubble formation. However, the bubbles couldn’t form and rise through the layer of fat on the top of the soup – so they just built up all this pressure underneath the fat layer, and exploded when the vegetables were added.
from How Everything Works
explanation from a physics professor
from a cooking website
So you see the level of improbability we’re dealing with here – like I said, almost a Cole-level Mishap!
I figured this group would appreciate the oddity
trollhattan
Meanwhile, in Bakersfield State Sen. Ashburn emerges from the closet a teeny bit too late for his political career. Or is it too soon–we are talking Bakersfield. I’m sure the state party will rally around him nevertheless.
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/2010/03/sen-roy-ashburn.html
Oh closeted Republicans, you never cease to amuse.
Paul L.
Tim F.
When I mentioned the Population Bomb scare of the 80s as a reason I am skeptical of Anthropogenic global warming.
Tim F. dismissed the comparison because now we have a consensus. The Population Bomb was just media driven.
You also say that no one listens to any of the scientists who promoted the Population Bomb.
Looks like That Talking Point Is No Longer Operative.
John Holdren – Obama’s Science Czar
Climate scientists at the National Academy of Sciences include Paul R. Ehrlich.
MattR
@reality-based:
Only if you were naked and/or holding your dog ;) Glad you mostly avoided damage.
asiangrrlMN
I was in a jury pool once. After my experience, I NEVER want to be tried by a jury of my so-called peers. NEVER.
We got paid regardless of whether we were chosen or not (I wasn’t, surprise surprise).
P.S. I’m editing in Chrome as we speak. No problems with it.
MikeJ
@reality-based: I’ve seen it done intentionally in a microwave, but it takes an almost fanatical level of cleanness in a perfectly unscratched vessel. I still usually pop a chopstick in water for my tea to be on the safe side though.
licensed to kill time
@reality-based:
That is really weird. I once had a pyrex type glass coffee mug explode in the middle of the night. It was sitting in a dishrack and just exploded – it didn’t hit the floor and explode, because it was in pieces in the dishrack on the counter. It made a really loud boom! and woke me up out of a dead sleep. I never did figure that one out.
John Cole
Lily just puked in my lap.
I crawled, barely holding back my gag reflex, to the bathroom where I stripped down and threw my pants in the tub.
Disgusting.
ruemara
@jrg:
As a former fundie, it will be about 2 weeks before they strip off their clothes & go full bore atheist or pagan. Or never. If they can find a traditionally black church, they should be able to find what they’re looking for. Women leaders + anti-gay abound. But they’re politely anti-gay, sorta.
asiangrrlMN
@John Cole: Uh oh. Does she need to see the vet? Oh, and sorry about your pants.
jibeaux
@John Cole:
Wow, you’re almost ready for kids. You’d be able to deal with Tub Poop in no time.
licensed to kill time
@John Cole: Be careful in that bathroom while yer nekkid, man. No mops nearby, I hope.
cleek
@Tonal Crow:
ah. yeah, t’was a FF proxy issue. thanks for the tip!
buh bye Chrome!
Randy P
@John Cole:
Geeze you have a weak stomach for a pet owner. You mean you’ve never stepped on a wet hairball in the middle of the night with barefeet and screamed “What the HELL was that? Don’t tell me, I DON’T WANT TO KNOW!”
jeffreyw
@reality-based: Betcha can’t do it again..LOL
Call Kucinich
Kucinich is bravely, progressively voting against extending health coverage to 31 million people. Call his office and tell him what you think.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/08/kucinich-becomes-target-o_n_490280.html
arguingwithsignposts
@jrg:
1) At what point will a fundie realize that the golden rule is staring them right in the face?
Something about cold temperatures in a very warm place.
2) At what point will a fundie realize that they are jumping through hoops to create a God in their own image?
See above. Selective hermeneutics is a feature, not a bug in fundamentalism.
bemused
My husband just informed me that he has to testify at an upcoming court case for the same time we had been planning taking a trip at the end of the month. Now we have to change our dates. Good thing we hadn’t already booked the flights or we probably would had to eat the cost. Nice advance notice….only 3 weeks. Is this common?
gbear
@John Cole:
This is a good reason for the continued existence of newspapers. You can often grab a section when you hear the first signs of pet rolfing.
asiangrrlMN
@jibeaux: I don’t even want to know. Hiya. Good to see ya again.
@Randy P: I’ve never done that, but I did pick up a cat ‘toy’ first thing in the morning only to realize it was warm. Ewwwww! Cat poop? No. Dead mouse. Thanks boys.
@bemused: Just make sure it doesn’t get changed! I was supposed to testify or at least be present in a case, and it kept getting delayed. It was finally settled out of court.
David in NY
@Phyllis:
Thanks for the info. If there weren’t any dead (or grievously injured) bodies in the case, I’d say life is pretty darn high, even for a lot of drug dealing, and especially for a defendant in his 20’s. My guess is it was crack cocaine, which artificially drives federal sentences through the roof. And, of course, “Columbia, SC.”
When the US Sentencing Commission recently reduced crack sentences modestly, and made the reduction retroactive, more than a quarter of all the sentences eligible for reduction nationwide were in the 4th Circuit (MD, VA, NC, SC).
Chyron HR
@Rick Ellensburg:
WOW! If you didn’t know what a blog was, you might think that he was doing something worthwhile with his life! Does he also use Twitter, by any chance?
srv
Y’alls pensions are going to be half full if the FDIC gets what it wants:
I kept hearing Jack Nicholson’s laugh in the background while reading that.
MattR
@John Cole: Could be worse. First time Ellie puked it was all over my sister and the backseat of my car as we were taking her to my parents for the first time. To add to the fun, we were still on the highway, and in the middle lane, when it happened.
(The second and third time Ellie puked was also in the car, but I am pretty sure it was anxiety issues since she now loves the car and survived a NJ to GA drive with no problems).
David in NY
@Paul L.:
That didn’t make much sense.
rob!
Anyone here need to induce vomiting? Try this on for size:
“I was excited about Palin; I’m more excited about Liz. The same sort of excitement you get when you hear her father, except she’s this petite blonde with five kids … You have a little crush on her. It’s hard not to,” – Michael Goldfarb.
BLEEEAARRGGGHHH!
(h/t: Sully)
Tonal Crow
@MikeJ: I find it easy to superheat water in the microwave in pretty much any dishwasher-clean glass container, and also on the stovetop in many stainless steel vessels. I suppose that means that my tap water has unusually-few particles in it.
Steeplejack
@gbear:
Gots to have Mystery Road. That’s probably the consensus best album. With Fly Me Courageous you’ve got their classic stuff pretty much covered.
I didn’t know they had a new album. Must hurry off to check it out.
Bill E Pilgrim
@cleek: Chrome on Windows 7 doesn’t let me edit here unless I right-click the edit link and choose “open link in another tab”. Or “in another window”.
On XP (the other computer) running Chrome, it works normally.
Actually opening it in another tab is better, you get a bigger area to edit.
jibeaux
@asiangrrlMN:
Hi back! I come and go with the work flow, I guess. As for the other, well, you see babies and toddlers have to be bathed, and babies and toddlers aren’t potty-trained, and well, if you run the math I’d say it’s better than even odds of happening at some point in the first couple of years….
ajr22
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/massa-to-sit-down-with-glenn-beck-tomorrow-evening.php?ref=fpblg … Oy vey is right, who is ready for the Beck freak out, that they ran Massa out of office to jam the bill down our throats. DougJ what is happening here?
Tonal Crow
@John Cole: See! That’s what you get for lavishing all that love on a dog, and then compounding it by mocking Tunch’s desperate meows.
cleek
a crush on Liz Cheney ?
maybe i’d like to crush her, under a rock or a two-ton block of zit meat, but a crush on her ? yichkkh.
jibeaux
@rob!:
Is there something about having five kids that gives you extra special conservative sex appeal, like literal sex appeal, or is it just that creepy “quiverful” type attitude, like “whoa, this little filly can really churn out the baby wingnuts.”
asiangrrlMN
@Bill E Pilgrim: Huh. Chrome works on both XP and Windows 7 for me. Weird.
@rob!: NO! NO MORE FUCKING STARBURSTS!
David in NY
@jibeaux:
We try to prepare our expecting friends. For two or three years, having kids is all about body fluids (and solids, now that you mention it).
cleek
asiangrrlMN
@jibeaux: Yeah. I am not a mama, so it wasn’t something I had really thought about–before now.
@jibeaux: I think it’s both. “She’s a good breeder” is one part, and “she likes sex a lot! Look, she has many kids” is the other. Something like that. I don’t pretend to know how the rightwing mind works.
geg6
@jibeaux:
This.
And just one of the many good reasons to not have kids. Don’t want to be mistaken for a wingnut torture apologist!
David in NY
Shit. Do they listen in to comment threads now? I see the little advert at the top of the page is for www. JurySync. com, and we’ve been talking about, well, jury service. Coincidence or digital snooping? I suspect the latter.
Bill E Pilgrim
@John Cole:
Wait this was the quote in the interview from what’s-his-name today who’s resigning, right?
I get so lost here.
Bill Rutherford, Princeton Admissions
@11 – you may be gone right now but yes, they put out a few decent albums, had a string of singles on Atlanta radio, but never really “made it” outside the Southeast. Guess it’s arguable whether that’s preferable to going the Shawn Mullins one-hit wonder route.
At one time they played a Thanksgiving show every year at Variety Playhouse – not sure if they still do. Went around 1999 or 2000, saw some of the worst opening acts I’ve ever seen.
Kevn Kinney is supposed to be a colossal asshole.
GReynoldsCT00
@John Cole:
ah, the joys of pets
asiangrrlMN
@cleek: Ditto this. I was gonna say you were a sockulist, which is what put you in moderation. Every time I look at Liz Cheney, a little part of me shrivels. She is so morally-reprehensible, I cannot fathom shaking hands with her, let alone anything more risque.
Randy P
@David in NY: Been through two kids. Now both grown, to all appearances. I could easily be tempted into telling my favorite epic diaper changing stories but just to prove that you do indeed outgrow parenthood, I’m going to spare the childless folks those tales.
Still, I associate pets with a great deal of such messes, so I’m a little surprised at John’s squeamishness. When I lived with my brother and one of our family’s dogs during grad school, I remember being woken on a number of occasions with “Sheba threw up on the carpet in the living room. I gotta go, I’m late for class.” (We lived in a shared house near campus with a bunch of other students).
Robertdsc-iphone
@rob!:
I don’t see it. Palin, I got right away. Liz? Ehh.
rootless-e
This hcr discussion on C&L is a textbook illustration of what is wrong with the emo-progressives
http://crooksandliars.com/node/35455
1. Marcia Angell gives authoritative advice about a field she knows absolutely nothing about – legislative strategy. She has no experience, no credentials, nada – yet she’s blithely explaining the obvious errors that Obama supposedly made.
2. The manifest benefits of the Senate health bill, recognized by Boxer, Sanders, Sherrod Brown, and others are dismissed without discussion using the assertion that there is nothing worthwhile in the bill. As usual in Emo-progressive arguments, there is no effort to refute or even acknowledge the existence of e.g. Bernie Sanders argument in favor of the bill.
3. The flag of noble failure is proudly raised: it would be better to “fight” and lose than to actually, you know, get fucking insurance coverage for people.
I’m so tired of these professional losers.
David in NY
@Bill E Pilgrim:
I thought that sounded like part of a creative writing exercise for someone hoping to work in kinky porn.
Phyllis
@David in NY: It was crack cocaine, and a lot of it. Along with several high-powered handguns. I found myself really amused by the middle-aged white guy from Hilton Head Island who was explaining how it all worked to us (ex: what the quarter was for-measuring/weighing product, etc). Like, ‘how do you know all this?’
Turns out he’d been on the jury for a very high-profile white collar drug case on HH several years ago.
Bill E Pilgrim
@David in NY:
Don’t be paranoid.
Mind you, I don’t know if you’ve ever considered the advantages of owning a truly fine collection of digital snooping devices which you’ll find online at Bill E Pilgrim Digital Snooping.com
geg6
@asiangrrlMN:
Ew. Just…ew. This reminds me…I was flipping through channels this weekend and ended up on the Style Network watching a show called “Ruby,” about a woman who once weighed like 700 pounds and who is battling to get to a healthy weight. She came across as quintessentially Southern with a lot of charm, humor, and zest for life and she’s down to about 330 pounds (which I really, really admire), so I watched. Obviously a child of the Bible Belt, she goes to some mega-fundie church and they show her at a church service. Between the preacher, who looked a lot like Scott Bakula hitting on young girls in his character on “Men of a Certain Age,” and his sermon, which was how to have the best sex of your life, I got totally creeped out. No way on earth would I ever go to a church where they feel the need to have sex sermons.
Religious people are just too weird for me.
Svensker
@reality-based:
Good grief. No idea that could happen. Very happy to hear you survived unscalded.
Svensker
@John Cole:
Then did you mop while nekkid?
Now that Lily is feeling secure, she certainly seems to be pushing the old envelope, dunt she?
(My grossest childhood memory is of my dog puking all over the floor and my best friend’s dog happily lapping up the puke. Still makes me gag just thinking about it.)
SenyorDave
I was excited about Palin; I’m more excited about Liz. The same sort of excitement you get when you hear her father, except she’s this petite blonde with five kids … You have a little crush on her. It’s hard not to,” – Michael Goldfarb.
And when I found out she was willing to crush a child’s testicles to try to elicit information, I came all over myself. And now mom’s pissed that I ruined her couch.
asiangrrlMN
@geg6: Yeah. I was raised Christian, and I still don’t get it. But, I would actually be interested in a sermon of how to have the best sex of one’s life as long as it included pleasure for the woman. Given that it was a fundie church, I doubt that’s high on the list of priorities.
@SenyorDave: Wait, I missed the part about getting that excited about Cheney Sr. Is Goldfarb telling us something? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
Annie
@John Cole:
Do you still wonder why Tunch is getting shrill?
bemused
@Svensker:
We have 2 dogs & if one pukes on the floor we immediately tell the other one to sit & stay because we know what will happen next.
J.W. Hamner
Maybe this belongs in the Massa thread… but he’s going on Beck for a full hour tomorrow.
Nothing good can come of that.
Betsy
Happy story!
Morbo
@John Cole: A lot of dogs would clean that up by themselves, you know…
geg6
@asiangrrlMN:
From what I could tell, the way to have the best sex of your life is to pray. And keep God in mind while you have sex. Which, if you’re like me and grew up Catholic, pretty much precludes any idea of women having pleasure during sex.
Betsy
@bemused:
Free cleanup?
Kyle Schmidt
How corporate directors fool ratings agencies about their independence while giving jobs to their buddies:
http://corporatejusticeblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/executive-independence-misdirection.html
Svensker
@bemused:
My question for the scientists out there: why does this happen? Dogs puke, but do they not have gag reflex? Are humans the only animal with psychological gag reflex?
David in NY
@Phyllis:
I personally can’t fathom why two or three decades in prison (think about that a minute) wouldn’t be perfectly adequate to serve any reasonable purpose of punishment in a case like the one you heard. Not the least of the problem is that you and I (or our children) will be paying for geriatric care for this kid some day.
But I suppose I’m just another bleeding-hearted dirty fucking hippy.
arguingwithsignposts
@geg6:
Wut? As in “Oh, God, yes!”?
gbear
@Steeplejack:
Thanks for the info. By ‘new’ I meant it was released last year. The album before that was back in 1997.
@Bill Rutherford, Princeton Admissions: Thank you too.
reality-based
@Svensker:
I know – who knew that soup-making could be hazardous! (well, if the planets are aligned in a zillion-to-one configuration. )
Actually – other than cleaning up the mess – I kind of enjoyed the whole episode – as in “Whoa – – what the *&(*& just happened! I gotta figure this out!
I thought I pretty much understood the Physics of Everyday Living – – then your everyday soup stock suddenly acquires Alien powers, and you end up learning something new.
Surprises are just inherently interesting, I guess.
Nutella
Grifter watch:
Newest example
Previous example
Palin: resolutely opposed to socialized medicine except when she or her family can save or steal a buck by using it.
GReynoldsCT00
@arguingwithsignposts:
Well that IS what a lot of women say…
General Egali Tarian Stuck
@John Cole:
Charlie had the hiccups for awhile last night and so I thought I’d try the old “scare cure” grandma used to teach us. So I went boo and the little pooch wagged his tail and cocked is head a little with a look that said wtf is your problem, that all you got. He got over the hiccups a little later, but I remain an idjit.
bemused
@Betsy:
Oh yeah, that would be easier & the floor would probably be licked clean too but who could stand to watch that? There would just be more to clean up after the humans lost their lunches too.
Keith G
@jrg: But the real question is, “How do they feel about male ballet dancers?”
Seriously though, what’s to understand? They are irrational and foolish. They are your friends, so other than that they must be ok.
gbear
Last night it was boob flowers, today it’s dog puke. How could Rick Ellensburg @ #4 possibly not love this place.
bemused
@Nutella:
Ok, now even her groupies have got to admit that anyone that dumb should ever hold any kind of office. It didn’t occur to her that after ranting about government controlled health care she should keep keep her mouth shut about her family going to Canada to get some there, if that is even true.
Cris
Happy International Women’s Day.
David in NY
@gbear:
You mean I missed “boob flowers”??? Guess I’ll have to go to the archives.
bemused
@bemused:
That should be never, ever hold office.
gbear
@David in NY: It’s in the oscars open thread.
cleek
@asiangrrlMN:
i think i got moderated because i tried to use a different email addr in my first attempt. but then it vanished completely, so i assumed it got eated. so i reposted. and now there are two.
Liz Cheney has all the sexual attraction of … her father. and she doesn’t even have the excuse of senility to explain her lack of morality.
asiangrrlMN
@geg6: Sex is about the only time I ever speak to god. Does that count?
@arguingwithsignposts: You beat me to it.
arguingwithsignposts
@asiangrrlMN:
i like your joke better. :)
jeffreyw
@geg6: I think they mistake cries of “Oh God!! Yes!!” for an affirmation of the diety.
General Egali Tarian Stuck
I’ve sort of stayed away from the whole Massa thing out of being burnt out on all the palace intrigue stuff going on. But he is turning out to be one loose wire mofo, it seems to me. Jeebus h christ.
Seanly
@John Cole:
If you are talking about your dog Lily then this is nothing to whine about. Wait to whine for when they shit your bed (literally) or you find a huge vomit-plug of grass & green stomach goo on your couch or bed sheets. I’ve cleaned up rank vomit while tearing up from the reflex vomit in my own mouth.
If this is a lady-friend Lily then that is full of win ala the movie “8 Million Ways to Die”.
My own dogs have a delightful way of destroying bedding by means most foul. It’s a fucntion related to the age and expense of the item – the newer and more expensive the more likely they are to have a rare accident.
EDIT: Also, how did she vomit in your lap? My dogs usually give me just enough warning that I can almost get them out the door or near a hard surface before they lose it. I’ve never just sat there while their back heaves up and down & they make that reverse sneeze sound.
Last edit – get a Bissell Spotbot. Best. Device. Evah. We’ve used our so much on dog poop, pee and vomit that we’ve worn out parts of it.
Martin
@jrg: May the world suddenly fill with churches that only allow lesbian pastors.
jnfr
Just a heads up to other Amazon affiliates. Last week Colorado passed a bill stating that companies with a certain level of affiliate business in the state may have to start collecting sales taxes on all sales within the state. So today Amazon dropped all their affiliates in Colorado. I posted a copy of their letter.
This is an issue being raised in legislation in a lot of states right now. Not at all sure where Amazon will take it if more states try to use affiliates as a way to force Amazon to collect taxes for them.
Keith G
@John Cole:
So…ah…you did re-dress before posting this, didn’t you? Please?
Betsy
@geg6:
This data might be totally out of date, since it comes from a book that was published in 1998 or thereabouts. But in Natalie Angier’s book Woman: An Intimate Geography, she cites a study that found that married, evangelical or fundamentalist (don’t remember which) women consistently report having a higher frequency of orgasm during sex than any other subset of women. The theory was that since they felt they were doing God’s…um…”work” seems like the wrong word here…bidding, they felt free to take pleasure and joy in it in a way that many American women feel like they’re not supposed to do. Or something like. I haven’t read it since 1998, either.
But I remember finding it extremely interesting at the time, and I wonder if that data has held up.
Svensker
Could someone please explain to me why we are supposed to hate Iran and find them terrifying? One of my very liberals friends just expressed a wish for the Iranians to get nuked. Seems like the propaganda has succeeded yet again. (I know Ahmed is a clown, but then we had Dubya, so who are we to talk?)
MobiusKlein
What is the max # of comments on a thread for this software?
Half full might be 16000, or 32000, or perhaps 2,000,000,000
Enquiring minds want to know.!1
cleek
@Seanly: re: Bissell SpotBot
we’ve got a Bissell “Little Green”, which is the same basic idea (portable wet-action carpet cleaner). it’s awesome in the summer when our two long-haired cats start their daily hairball production. plus, i get to sing that Joni Mitchell song to the cats whenever i have to clean up their messes. (Little Green – it’s about giving a child up for adoption. i tell the cats we’re going to give them to the gypsies)
Keith G
@gbear:
I doubt we will be hearing more from Rick. I imagine he is just a friend of Glen (FoG) who came over just to get sumpin off his chest, his sunken chest.
freelancer
@David in NY:
Boob flowers.
Svensker
@Betsy:
Purely anecdotal evidence, but my SIL was running a women’s body issues website for a while and she said that the evangelical women were the ones who talked the most about their fabulous sex lives, sex toys, sexy underwear, etc. My very secular and sophisticated New Yorker relative was frequently shocked by these women’s wild sex stories. She never felt like they were making it up, either.
DonBelacquaDelPurgatorio
@Svensker:
The simple answer, I think, is that when you see politicians talking loudly about things that don’t seem to warrant the agita upon closer examination … it’s because they want to deflect attention from something else.
The pattern I see over and over is that Washington DC is run by people who have their own interests at heart, and not ours. So demonizing Iran, ranting about illegal immigrants, making shit up about death panels, demagoguery over taxes, or whatever … is all about “look, a jackalope!” to keep us from seeing that they are stealing or living the high life on our nickel. It used to be communism. Then it was terrorism. It used to be welfare queens, now it is immigrants and muslims.
asiangrrlMN
@Betsy: That’s a fascinating hypothesis. So maybe there is something to the starbursters?
@arguingwithsignposts: Me, too!
bemused
@Svensker:
I have doubts. Does the common saying that people that brag about their sex lives the most are making it up apply to women too?
Betsy
@asiangrrlMN:
Starbursters’ sexual imagination ranks high on the list of things I prefer not to speculate about.
I found the quote from Angier: “Of all the subgroups queried, married, conservative Christian women were the likeliest to say that they came every time they copulated. And why not? For our God-fearing sisters, marriage is a sacrament, which means that every bounce on the matrimonial mattress is a holy and ennobling event.”
Love it.
jeffreyw
Good place for this SMBComic.
Annie
@Svensker:
Because people are stupid…Necons and other wingnuts have never forgiven Iranians for the 1979 Iranian revolution that caused the Shah to flee and Ayatollah Khoemini to take power. The Shah was “our” guy in all of his royal corruptness.
But people forget that the CIA helped overthrow the democratically elected Iranian Prime Minister Mossadegh in 1951 because we were afraid he was too far to the left…
And that is why in 2010 we hate Iran, and while many Iranians, particularly young people, hate the current regime, they do know their history. If the US were to “invade,” most Iranians would side with their own government against the US.
geg6
@Betsy:
Sorry, but don’t believe it. They may report such things, but I know a lot of fundie women. These are NOT people who have joyful and fulfilling sex lives. No one who has that much anger and resentment oozing from their pores could ever have an orgasm.
I’d posit atheists like me have good sex simply because we aren’t all hung up about shit like what positions does Jeebus approve or are blow jobs kosher or does Mohammed approve of g-strings under burkhas.
David in NY
@freelancer:
Thanks, I think. I’m sure the discussion of this was at least as enlightening as the current ruminations on the place of God in orgasm.
asiangrrlMN
@Betsy: Now that I read it’s self-reported, I have my doubts.
@geg6: I agree with you. The fundies I know are rather sour people. Maybe I just don’t know the right denomination!
Annie
@asiangrrlMN:
And, this also assumes that fundie men are great lovers, or that the truth is fundie women are helping the process along…(something about doing Gods “work”…)
scav
I’ve always found it suspicious that the entire fundy position on sex seems to be that if children ever simply hear there is an alternative to man-women sex, they’ll be converted to it. Makes you wonder.
Svensker
@bemused:
She didn’t feel they were bragging. They would just casually be discussing some sex toy and none of the non-fundies had ever heard of it or used it. She said it was the matter-of-factness that astonished her, like, “of course we’ve all tried the nuclear foaming dildo, but have you tried the one that shoots warm strawberry champagne yet?” kind of thing.
Corner Stone
@Seanly:
Truly Sir/Madam, you have won the entire internets for today.
Amber
Don’t have time to read all the comments. But besides looking at attack numbers…people should watch Dog101 (i’m pretty sure that is the name) on Animal Planet. I heard about it from my sister and I guess you can watch most of them online. That take each dog breed and go into detail on what time of people/environment the dog does best in. So for example, if it should be in a home with no children, can’t be left home alone for any extended time, sheds, barks, general personality traits like not easy to train, etc. Getting a dog and having them do well in your household and life goes a lot deeper than just instances of people attacks. You’d be surprised at what you didn’t know about a certain breed….
cathaireverywhere
Regarding the Pyrex explosion, I have also heard about problems with Pyrex exploding. Consumer Affairs has this: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/08/pyrex.html
The Palin/Canadian healthcare story would make me laugh if she actually saw the irony in it. The fact that she voluntarily related the story and still bashes single payer amazes me.
bemused
@Svensker:
Funny.
Still, these must be a different breed of very christian women than I know who seem to find excessive talk about their sex lives a little unseemly. Maybe the regions of the country vary.
Beej
@Chyron HR: He said Greenwald, not Reynolds. Like John Cole, I would like to know WTF he is talking about. Rick? Any explanations?
Steeplejack
@gbear:
I hadn’t heard, or heard of, Drivin’ ‘n’ Cryin’ in so long that “last year” is still new to me.
If I may make a couple of other suggestions of groups that I associate with that time and place . . .
Neither of these groups is from Atlanta, but I saw them both there and associate their music with that same Drivin’ ‘n’ Cryin’ period (early ’90s). And they’re sort of musically related to DnC in a mix-tape way.
– BoDeans, Black and White.
– Kentucky Headhunters, Big Boss Man. This album is actually much later, from about 2005, but it is my favorite. All cover songs, including an awesome rendition of the title song and a good version of one of my favorites, Joe South’s “Don’t It Make You Want to Go Home.”
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
To the YouTubes!
– “Big Boss Man,” Kentucky Headhunters.
– “Good Things,” BoDeans.
gbear
@Steeplejack:
I’ve got the three BoDeans records before Black and White but I didn’t pay attention after that. I’ll look around for the vinyl of B&W.
I remember the Kentucky Headhunters but I never really connected with them. I watched the video and man that drummer has the craziest facial hair ever. That’s a long-term committment.
Do you remember a band called Hydra? They were a cool southern band too. I’ve got the records but haven’t pulled them out in ages. I’ll have to go dig them out.
Steeplejack
@gbear:
Don’t remember Hydra. Will have to sniff around and investigate. And I thought I was aware of all Southern rock traditions.
Red Microwaves
That wasn’t the wisest move on his part, but luckily you were able to get that taken care of.