Marge Gunderson’s SOTU response:
Two years ago, when Barack Obama became our president, unemployment was 7.8%, and our national debt stood at what seemed like a staggering $10.6 trillion. We wondered whether the president would cut spending, reduce the deficit and implement real job-creating policies.
In other words:
Two years ago, when the black guy with the funny sounding name became president, we wondered if he would wipe our asses, change our diapers, feed us a bottle, and put us down for a nap. Unfortunately, he expected us to act like adults and help clean up after our pants-shitting performance while we were in charge of the country. We think it’s more fun to accuse him of sneaking in and crapping in our pants when we weren’t looking. So let me do that for six minutes on the only cable network that still thinks that the Tea Party is anything other than the bitter rump of the Republican party.
If that isn’t a fair summary, let me know in the comments.
cleek
i’m not sure every mention of Obama’s name, by a Republican, is code for “the black guy”.
could be, but i haven’t seen the data.
Napoleon
Nailed it.
meh
I’m not sure anyone, other than Tweety, gives half a shit about what this wingnut says.
liberal
Why not focus on the fact that cutting spending and reducing the deficit will kill jobs?
Jennifer
My favorite part was the chart – specifically, how they showed the deficit “going off the rails” in 2009 – you know, Bush’s last budget – but had it colored in as being Obama’s budget.
Also. Too. The way she never once looked at the camera. Maybe the director told her that looking off to the side (to the right, natch) helped hide the crazy in her eyes.
magurakurin
personally I liked her story about how John Adams ended slavery much better.
Michelle Bachmann: put on earth for the sole purpose of making Sarah Palin look like a genius.
El Cid
One president’s “unacceptable” is an “explosion” when the next guy is in.
Maybe she could define “unprecedented,” unless she means that she would contradict herself in the next paragraph rather than the preceding paragraph.
And still, no one ever questions these Liberty League Know Nothing Bircher Militia shits about putting the two tiny, cheap, self-paid-for wars on the actual budget, or the bills coming due for things initiated under Bush Jr.
Such as the fact that the vast amount of increased gubmit workers were Homeland Security personnel added under Bush Jr. policies.
LosGatosCA
Look at the bright side, even though Bachmann will remain dumb as a box of Hannitys and Palins, the Kenyan still hasn’t had the guts to confiscate their guns from their cold dead hands.Which proves that he’s a typical Democratic wimp without the courage of his convictions to start a modern civil war if that’s what it takes. Also, too.
El Cid
Thank god, though, that we’re finally going to act like we’re going to take on John McCain’s key campaign issue, earmarks, which represent a thousand million percent of the budget once you deduct all the walking around money Obama gave to ACORN.
magurakurin
the real BTO
Chyron HR
So did anything of interest happen in the SOTU itself, or was the crazy all saved up for afterwards? Dammit, I want circuses.
cleek
@Chyron HR:
no.
except we learned that Obama is lousy at telling jokes.
Chris
@Jennifer:
LOL.
“I’m not seeing the connection to Obama.”
“Well, there isn’t a literal connection, Dude.”
“Walter, face it, there isn’t any connection.”
@LosGatosCA:
I’m starting to like this “the Kenyan” reference, sounds badass in a Mafia sort of way, kind of like Solozzo being “the Turk.”
PurpleGirl
Don’t you insult Marge Gunderson that way. Marge is way smarter than Bachmann and much more honest. Bachmann is a lying hypocrit.
Scott
I know CNN ran Bachmann’s SKREEE-fest, but did even Fox run her?
Brian S (formerly Incertus)
@El Cid:
Definitions have a liberal bias.
El Cid
@cleek: Oh, c’mon, I thought it was funny. Although I actually think it isn’t so ridiculous that there are different ‘authorities’ who act in freshwater areas (inside the terrestrial US) and in “saltwater” areas — i.e., the ocean. Very different environment, very different challenges, and very different rules and laws.
soonergrunt
No. That’s pretty much it. It should also be noted that she looked like a paranoid schizophrenic in need of a med re-balance. That extra aspect of crazy really ads flavor to the whole stew.
@Scott: No. They loves them some teabagging over at Faux, but the last thing they want is for the relatively normal people to actually see a teabagger up close. Rallies shot with a wide angle lens with sun flare and garbled, distorted speakers over-powered by the reporter are one thing. Queen Batshit all by herself in a setting where people can get a real, critical look at her? Noooooooo.
Exurban Mom
I knew instantly what the problem was: Michele Bachmann was looking at the camera that was covering the response on behalf of the Tea Party Movement/website. The Tea Partiers get to see the whites of her eyes…the rest of us have to be satisfied with the crazy half profile.
A miscalculation of staggering stupidity…what’s going to have the larger viewership: CNN or some teabagger website? Duh.
El Cid
@Chris: At least Bannity has an ethos.
magurakurin
With the poll numbers coming out now there must be a run on strychnine in the Tea Party bunkers. 91% approval of the policies Obama approved. So, of that 8% what percent is in the Teabagger bunkers and what percent are DKOS registered users?
El Cid
@soonergrunt: I’d change the verb to something like “still” or “continued” to look like, or “always appears as the ______ she is.”
Jim Pharo
I think you overdid it. What I heard can be summarized as follows:
“Waaaaaah!”
I thought Barry pulled off a neat rhetorical trick by embracing GOP pet peeves like earmarks and tort reform. Recall that two years ago these were the main planks of GOP policy prescriptions. We all scorn these as ridiculous distractions. But Barry says “yes” to them, thereby taking them off the table. Same with asking businesses which regulations exactly they think are holding them back.
Once you take these minor gripes off the table, perhaps some elements of the GOP can be brought around. It does seem clearer and clearer that the Tea Party is going to bolt the GOP (or vice versa), and that will leave Barry in a position to get one or the other of the two to get on board a program.
Is tort reform an inadequate measure in terms of fixing health care? Sure. But an awful lot of GOP-ers and MDs use it as an excuse for not thinking further about the real problems. And that excuse is on its last legs, if not in fact headed out the door.
Paris
The Tea Party now comes in HD? How twenty first century of them.
RoonieRoo
@Scott: Apparently it was ONLY CNN that ran her. Fox didn’t run her. I find that fascinating.
El Cid
I also learned last night that America is the awesomestest bestest biggest brightest shiningest star in the universe and the sole location in the entire multiverse where someone can take an idea and make a business out of it. Man, who would ever want to live anywhere else in the world? All those other people are complete foolish shit-bags who live in unachieving hellholes, unable to speak freely or innovate or plan for getting a populace to achieve in science and math which the currently leading legislative political party sees as seditious.
Comrade Javamanphil
I happily retired before listening to the crazy. I get enough of that from other sources. Still, my favorite part of the night was when Jeff Greenfield (I’m pretty sure) decided those of us that weren’t alive for Sputnik would have no idea what Obama was talking about and would instead think it a reference to “Jewish Soul Food.” I love when the media makes it plain they consider everyone outside of the village uneducated slobs.
PurpleGirl
@El Cid: LOL. You do have a way with phrasing the snark.
Breezeblock
I like our President. I hate the GOP. I watched a movie instead of the speech.
magurakurin
@Jim Pharo:
That’s what I thought as well. Now the GOP has to face the reality of the fact that there is actually very little fat to trim and the real problem is with revenues. The fucking tax rates are too damn low for the upper income and corporate levels. Of course they won’t face that, but now if they want to scream about cuts they will have to point at things people don’t want to be cut.
For the Bachmann crowd though, not of that matters. That is the huge advantage of making your own reality.
soonergrunt
@magurakurin:
Nowhere near as many Kossacks as firebaggers in the HATEHATEHATE crowd.
Of course, there are quite a few firebaggers that have KOS accounts, so the numbers will skew.
El Cid
@PurpleGirl: Thank you. If it weren’t for being here, my snark would be relegated to the past, whereas I can hope for a winning future for it.
El Cid
@soonergrunt: You err in thinking that there’s a revenue side in calculating ‘the deficit’. There is not. There is only spending, and only the spending that we don’t like even counts.
Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac
What a peek into crazyland.
The graphs were fantastic. It’s like these people think that Obama showed up, and Immediately dissolved millions of jobs with some sort of presidential fiat. He also took responsibility for every single economic occurance the minute he went into office. But, of course, when Clinton’s economy was booming, “Everyone knows it takes a couple of years for economic policies to have a noticable effect, this is just the result of Bush I’s policies.”
soonergrunt
@El Cid: That comment should probably be addressed to somebody else since I didn’t say anything about deficit?
General Stuck
The wingnuts were confident if they ran up the deficit with their murder and mayhem, tear assing around the world like they owned it, that dems wouldn’t be able to politically waste money on the poor and disabled and sick (deadbeats getting free stuff). Obama didn’t play and spent money on those things anyway, and did it all uppity like. So now they are brewing some nihilistic kool aid for the entire country and obama is trying to outsmart and out politic them from dropping steamy piles into a makeshift doomsday device. I am not sure Obama, nor anyone else can stop them. I do hope so though. They are a party formed into a political missile, aimed at the heart of the republic, fueled by entitlement with a pea brain guidance system. Gawd hep us.
Menzies
@PurpleGirl:
My thoughts exactly.
magurakurin
@El Cid:
chuckle, chuckle, that’s a good one LOL…
oh wait, they control the House and they actual DO believe that…in fact, they passed a House Rule exactly to that effect…
so, like, you weren’t making a funny then, were you?
sob, sob, tears…
debbie
Oh please. Two years ago, when that black guy was elected, the only other alternative was the guy who was still insisting that the fundamentals were sound. Where would we be if that guy had won?
Chris
@magurakurin:
But the RENT, the RENT is TOO DAMN HIGH!!
Sorry, it had to be said. Agree totally with you. Be nice if they finally started to fucking tax the rich people. Thirty years of tax cuts haven’t gotten the job done; tax rates at 90% in the fifties, OTOH, coincided with the longest sustained economic boom we’ve ever had. I can haz my prosperity back now, please?
Comrade Javamanphil
@debbie: Magic Pony Land.
El Cid
@soonergrunt: Oops. Should have been magurakurin. Still, my comments are amazingly important, so you should pay attention too.
Rock
Well, it’s not fair to Marge Gunderson to equate Michelle Bachmann TeaParty Overdrive to her, I’ll say that. You know Marge would have given a much more agreeable, Minnesota Nice response.
Ash Can
My guess is that CNN aired her in hopes she’d do something like give another “history” lesson, and Fox declined to air her because they were afraid she’d do exactly that.
Punchy
What sucks is from now on, historians are going to have to refer to those agitators in the NE as “The Boston Tea Party (1775), not to be confused with Tea Party idiots from 235 years later”
General Stuck
Didn’t watch Bachmann. I fear those eyes are radioactive and could cause cancer of the soul. Too bad they belong to the forces of evil.
New Yorker
Don’t insult Marge Gunderson, a brave, smart, heroic woman who captured a psychopathic killer while pregnant, by comparing her to the loon who coined “Hoot-Smalley”.
Morbo
Am I crazy or does it look like Bachmann has had some work done on her face sometime in the last 6 months or so?
cleek
@Morbo:
it’s her V breeding skin coming through
de stijl
Bachmann is not Marge Gunderson. Bachmann is one of the I-94 hookers. Not the one from Chaska. The one from Le Sueur, but who went to high school in White Bear Lake. Go Bears!
patrick
yeah, I’m still dismayed she represents a district in the state I grew up in….she does not display any of the Minnesota Nice that I remember…heck, she doesn’t even stress her O’s like she’s supposed to. dunno what her appeal is even to the tea partiers, only think I can think of is the majority of them are older, white sexually repressed wannabe milf hunters who think she (and Palin) are hot.
Dave
The “highlight” of Bachmann’s talk was this piece near the end:
Where to begin…
First, what does the creation of the United States have to do with Iwo Jima?
Second, US forces outnumbered the Japanese almost 4-1 on the ground and had complete naval and air superiority. It was not a battle “against all odds.”
Third, Iwo was not an incursion of Japanese forces into US territory. If anything, it was an incursion of US forces into Japan, as the Japanese considered Iwo to be “home soil”.
So she was right about a battle against long odds to repel an incursion…if she was referring to the Japanese defenders.
But hey, at least she can count to six. That’s something.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac: Bush I? Some of the Republicans I know say that all of Clinton’s success with the economy was due to Reagan. Bush I was just a…well, they don’t really have an answer for that.
Comrade Mary
@Dave:
So could Clever Hans.
New Yorker
@Dave:
I get the feeling Bachmann learned everything she knows about the Pacific war from the Michael Bay travesty, “Pearl Harbor”.
Mark
@Chris: The 90% marginal tax bracket applied to basically no one.
For most wealthy people, 1982 saw the highest effective tax rates – 33% for someone making $150k today or 54% for someone making $500k. (Bracket creep.) You need to adjust incomes for inflation to understand that the 90% millionaire’s tax didn’t even hit the 99.99th percentile.
Sputnik
Seems like a fair summary to me.
And if Fox thinks you are too crazy to cover, then you are in serious trouble.
magurakurin
@New Yorker:
My wife, who is Japanese, hates that movie and she isn’t even really sure why. It’s not that she is big on history or has lots of national pride, but she just has such a finely tuned bullshit sensor(I think she is somehow part Philadelphian.) She holds a more or less permanent grudge against Ben Afleck for that film as a result. That and Daredevil. She can’t even believe that film was ever made.
WyldPirate
@El Cid:
Fuck, they never questioned Bush during his entire presidency when he kept funding the Iraq and Afghanistan fiascos with emergency budget supplementals–which DID NOT show up adding to the Narional Debt when the current FY budget went through approval.
Funny how our media worked that out to the advantage of the Republicans. Hundreds of billions didn’t show up on the yearly budget deficit when the sheeple might notice. Obama comes in and changes that (for the most part) and takes a hit. Then, the Rethugs get to use the passage of the “emergency supplemental” as a cudgel to beat Dems with as being “unpatriotic” and “not supporting the troops”
geg6
@New Yorker:
Gotta agree with everyone here who is outraged by the slur this thread title perpetrates upon Marge Gunderson. I love Marge. She is teh awesome.
Bachman Teabagger Overdrive, OTOH, is a too full bag of nuts.
niknik
Jeebus Hepatitis Christopher, what the eff is wrong with that lady’s eyes?
soonergrunt
@El Cid:
Oh, well, OK then. Carry on.
soonergrunt
@Dave: Even more important than all the things you correctly pointed out, and something that might actually ding her one with the conservatard crowd–the guys at Iwo Jima were Marines, not GIs, which term referred to Soldiers.
Yeah, very few teabaggers ever served, but they do watch the Military channel and the Pentagon channel so a couple of them might pick up on that.
WyldPirate
@Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac:
Which Bush I economic policy would that be? Could it be the one which cost him his re-election–going back on his “read my lips, no new taxes” pledge, which helpe staunch the fiscal profligacy and recklessness of Reagan?
SFAW
Unfortunately, CNN edited out the part where she talked about it not being over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. That was truly awe-inspiring.
soonergrunt
@magurakurin: Well, both Daredevil and Pearl Harbor are reason enough to hate Ben Affleck for most people. Gili should put it over the top, but he does redeem himself with The Town and Gone Baby Gone.
SFAW
Oh, don’t play dumb. If you recall, we were spending the money over there so that we wouldn’t have to spend it here.
SFAW
And he is wicked awesome as Jason Bourne, too.
Tom65
Fox didn’t cover Bachmann because it would dilute their Palin brand.
gbear
@cleek:
I’m surprised he even tried given that he was speaking to the most self-centered audience on the planet. I usually enjoy listening to Obama speak, but the SOTU speech is an unpleasant listening experience for so many reasons. It is jingoistic by nature, has to promise something to everyone, and winds up being an orgy for beltway pundits.
And I gotta add that Marge Gunderson was a great character. Bachmann is more like the car salesman who’s actions wind up getting people killed.
stuckinred
@Dave: Maybe she saw Letters from Iwo Jima and couldn’t figure out who was who?
Wag
I propose an new catagory for posts–Bachmann Turner Diary Overdrive”
Ivan Ivanovich Renko
I have learned to my chagrin that you cannot debate conservatives for this very reason– they neither know history nor are they at all interested in learning it.
And I am also now convinced that the reason they despise intelligence as “elitism” is because they are fucking stupid.
Dave
@stuckinred: Sadly, you have consider that as an option…
jTh
We need to draft the REAL Marge Gunderson to do the SOTU response next year… No, no, wait, we should draft Jerry Lundegaard to do the response for the Tea Party, and then Marge for the response to the response!
FlipYrWhig
@Dave: Those totalitarian Nips!
Tom Q
@New Yorker: She certainly never saw either of the Eastwood movies, which not only properly showed what a turkey shoot it was for the American military, but also explain how the flag-raising moment was at least half phonied up a la Jessica Lynch.
I remember when Clint Eastwood used to be considered a guy on the rightward edge of American politics.
soonergrunt
@SFAW: You’re kidding, right?
PLEASE tell me you’re kidding.
stuckinred
@<a href="#comment-2395186 Ya think she knows that the ship that Ya think she knows that the ship fired the first shot of WWII was crewed by reservists from her state?”>Dave:
USS Ward
SFAW
Whatever do you mean?
You Okies should know that all those guys from Southie (well, Boston and Cambridge, I guess) look alike. Just like you guys and Texans are basically the same.
stuckinred
@Tom Q: Turkey shoot?
6,822 killed/missing
19,217 wounded
you cannot be serious
SFAW
soonergrunt –
I’m not sure if I should be pissed that you asked that regarding #68, but not #65.
Well, not pissed, just hurt. sob boo hoo etc.
soonergrunt
@SFAW: Please do NOT call me an Okie. I only live here until I can get back to God’s country, Eagle County, CO. Additionally, I haven’t fucked a cow or my sister, so I’m not a true Okie in that sense either.
@SFAW:
While I have seen Animal House, I also would not be surprised if Bachmann made such an error, after all of the other well-documented cognitive failings of hers, so i let it go.
Citizen_X
DO NOT try to make sense of that phrase. And DO NOT, under ANY circumstances, attempt to play that line as a repeating sample. Any attempt to do so will produce a time warp that results in the Japanese Navy bombing the Abyssinians, and Lord Vader leading Imperial Forces to victory at the Battle of Yorktown, or something.
Tom Q
@stuckinred: I was referring to the utter vanquishing of the Japanese military; certainly not meaning to diminish in any way the American losses. Simply (perhaps awkwardly) using the term to mean “outcome never in doubt”.
soonergrunt
@Tom Q: That’s class right there. Simple, direct, no umbrage clarification. No thirty comment flame war. Nicely done. [golf clap].
Upper West
@PurpleGirl: Thank you, PG. Marge is the anti-Bachmann:
Bachmann would (metaphorically) feed this country into the wood chipper.
SFAW
My ‘umblest apologies. But I’d consider changing my nom de blog, if I didn’t want to be called an Okie.
Glad to hear about the cows and your sister, though.
Dave
@Citizen_X: I read that line about five times and still couldn’t make sense of it. It is impressive word salad of the highest caliber.
Citizen_X
@Dave: I was trying to decipher it as soon as she said it, but had to stop due to dizziness.
soonergrunt
@SFAW: Well, I DID attend and graduate the University of Oklahoma. Students and graduates of that august institution of higher learning are called ‘sooners.’ Sooners are so named for the people who snuck into Oklahoma and staked claims illegally before the land rushes. They got there sooner, you see. It rolls more glibly off the tongue than does “claim jumpers” or “land thieves.”
Had I the misfortune to attend Oklahoma State University at Stillwater, I would properly be referred to as an “inbred cow-fucking Deliverance extra.” Thus do I refer to my nephew.
El Cid
@Dave: Ronald Reagan’s leadership of the storming of Iwo Jima with only two soldiers from the Heritage Foundation in 1785 formed the basis of this nation, whether or not you people and your ‘book learnin’ want to recognize it or not.
soonergrunt
@El Cid:
Those would be Chief Master Private Rush Limbaugh and Senior Lance Bombardier Bill Kristol, right?
shortstop
@Jennifer: Unintentional, I think, and probably causing horror among those responsible. The prompter was at least three feet from the camera. More ‘bagger aptitude.
iLarynx
CORRECTION: It’s TEABAGGER, not “tea party.”
Binzinerator
My fave from the comments section over on that link:
Pongo
@soonergrunt: Her hubby’s a ‘therapist,’ but he specializes in un-gayifying people (got a master’s degree for it from somewhere, I guess) not actual mental illness. In fact, I think some bona fide mental illness is practically a requirement for residence in that household.
stuckinred
@Tom Q: gotcha
Gene in Princeton
Awesome post.
boatboy_srq
I think the best part of Bachmann’s speech was that, while CNN reached more people, she played to the Tea Party Express’ webcam feed – you know, the camera that matters.
And yes, the post about sums it up.
@Jim Pharo: FTW for the “Waaah!”
soonergrunt
@Pongo: That figures. Crazy attracts crazy.
New Yorker
@Tom Q:
I’m sure Clint is still to the right of most of the posters here, but he’s just not completely full of shit like the GOP and their teatards.
I bet Clint and Daniel Larison would agree on a lot.
Montana
Michele Bachmann did not say how we got here from eight years of poor leadership, two wars without end, diminsihed Civil liberties. Its like she crawl out from under a rock just to complain about our current President. We all know that Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works started the Tea Party, grasroots, please. She like Sarah Palin, Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle and Linda McMahon, they are just not right but funny. I especially like the clip of Bachmann saying that the founding fathers abolished slavery, wow, what a liar, not the first or last time that will happen. Does anyone with self-respect real believe her?
SRW1
@Tom65:
Fox didn’t cover Bachmann because they knew it would be weak tea?
Mike in NC
@Montana:
Technically correct, I believe.
Not been a good month for Palin, Bachmann, and other assorted TP wingnuts whining in front of TV cameras. Maybe it’s time to plan another rally on the Mall.
Never cared much for CNN, so now I can ignore them along with FOX.
sacman701
Marge Gunderson would have figured out in about 30 seconds that Bachmann doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
SFAW
What a coincidence! That’s how my uncle refers to me!
Waitaminnit …
walt
@Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac:
I also remember Rush Limbaugh going on for weeks at the time that the Clinton Boom was because of Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts and appointing Alan Greenspan as Fed Reserve chairman. All of which glosses over the fact that Limbaugh bet that the economy would keep stalling when Clinton raised the income tax rates in 93.
SFAW
walt @108
OK, here’s how it works:
A) When a boom happens during a Dem Administration, it’s because of the policies which were instituted by the previous Republican Administration, anywhere from 1 to 10 years prior.
B) When a recession happens during a Dem Administration – especially one that starts before that Dem Admin takes office – it’s because of Dem policies, whether already-instituted or merely contemplated.
C) When a recession happens during a Rethug Administration, it’s due to Dem policies instituted anywhere from 5 to 15 years prior.
D) When a boom happens during a Rethug Admin, it’s only due to Rethug policies
Shorter me: if it’s bad, it’s the Dems’ fault; if it’s good, it’s thanks to Rethugs.
Once you accept that, you won’t need to concern yourself with apparent inconsistencies from Rushbo and the rest of the Whoremacht.
PurpleGirl
@Montana: I thought her assertion that immigrants were always welcomed was hysterical. She’s such a hypocritical liar.
leenie17
Don’t you read those special history text books the right wing is rewriting?
You know, the ones that claim that the Bush years were filled with rainbows and unicorns and cherry lollipops. There was no unemployment, no sickness, the economy was booming and every day was sunny. Everyone had a wonderful job, Katrina was the name of the waitress at your favorite diner and there were no criminals, no terrorist attacks, and the whole big, wide world loved us. The folks in Afghanistan and Iraq were really just having picnics in the desert and wore camo to make it more of a challenge when they played hide and seek. And Guantanamo Bay was for square dancing! And finally the Virginia and Texas Board of Education just approved the book and its use in their public schools.
Didn’t you read that part yet???
SimpleMind
There was an infamous and often-described encounter between Sarah Palin and Andrew Halcro during their primary contest. Halcro, the ultimate policy and fact guy, had just finished a talk in which he had demonstrated his points with hard facts, the antithesis of Palin-speak. However, in a private talk after, Palin observed to Halcro that facts really don’t matter. And so enormous crowds of seemingly adults will listen to a Palin or Bachmann word-salad and somehow hear in that solutions to infinitely complex diplomatic, economic and social problems that have defied solution for a hundred years. It doesn’t matter that Bachmann just made stuff up. I’d bet that not one in a hundred Tea Baggers will even remember anything Bachmann actually said. They are listening to some tape inside their own heads, one that tells them that if just didn’t have some smart-ass Harvard-educated black guy in the White House, we’d suddenly all become contented, small-town white folks with jobs down at the local hardware store – if we’d just end social security, there wouldn’t be any poor elderly people living on catfood in unheated city apartments – if we’d just repeal healthcare, there’d suddenly be wise, old Marcus Welby general practitioners on every street corner – I mean, why does everything have to be so complicated? So facts don’t matter. More accurately, facts are the very problem.
nathkatun7
The University that awarded Congresswoman Bachmann a law degree should be ashamed (Please don’t tell me it was Oral Roberts University). If the founding fathers (I suppose she included the Southern founding fathers who owned slaves) worked tirelessly to abolish slavery how come the country fought a civil war over slavery? Did the law school that granted Bachmann a law degree fail to teach, or even mention, the 1857 Supreme Court’s Dred Scott decision? If everyone who came to America was welcomed as equal, regardless of race, then why was it necessary to pass three Constitutional Amendments: the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth? Did Rep. Bachmann learn any thing about the Jim Crow period that ushered in legal segregation of the races in the Southern States? Is it possible that the college and the law school she attended omitted any mention of the Supreme Court’s “Plessy v. Ferguson” decision? I have a sneaking suspicion that, Rep. Bachmann, a college educated and a lawyer, is not that ignorant. Rather, she seems determined to re-write history to conform with teabaggers’ claims that their mission is to restore the ideals of the pure and blameless founding fathers.
Who is dumber?; Michelle for saying the Founding Fathers eliminated slavery, or Sarah for saying that the Soviet Union collapsed because of Sputnik. What do you think?
youtube.com/watch?v=qideaIA_NpI