@Corner Stone: I really don’t get why it’s even called “Football”? This aptly describes my feelings:
What’s so entertaining about a bunch of doughy, sweaty men in shoulder pads and pedal pushers lining up in front of each other time and again just to slam into each other and land in a pile while some scrawny guy tries to throw the ball to some other scrawny guy before the fat guys jump on him. It’s just simply ridiculous!!
And why the hell is it called ‘Football’? Neither is it played with the foot nor does the ridiculously shaped ‘ball’ look like a ball in any imaginable way. Why don’t they call it the ‘Hand Egg’?
I find people who are football mad are generally the high strung personality types.
Still, it must be hard to bring even that when you’re about to go 0-2. ND might as well go back to tightened academic standards. The current strategy isn’t helping. And at least there’d be a shred of self-respect.
Politically George Will is a bum, but I do like his line here:
Football combines the two worst things about America: it is violence punctuated by committee meetings.
Not to say I dislike football (college edition).
30.
Corner Stone
@Anya: Spoken by someone who doesn’t understand the existential struggle of life.
Strategy, position, communication, execution.
31.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
Eegh, Meechigan… My Cougs are just now kicking off. I actually got sucked into the Army/San Diego State game earlier. I was scouting next week’s opponent and was impressed to see Army not just going option, but going old school vintage 1985 wishbone. They almost pulled off the upset too. All the more remarkable considering they fumbled the ball like 8 times.
And why the hell is it called ‘Football’? Neither is it played with the foot nor does the ridiculously shaped ‘ball’ look like a ball in any imaginable way. Why don’t they call it the ‘Hand Egg’?
It’s called “football” because it’s descended from an earlier game in which kicking was more important. There are actually a whole bunch of football games, including Association (soccer), Rugby, Gaelic, Australian Rules, Canadian, and American. Association is the odd man out in using a round ball and forbidding people from touching it with their hands. American football goes the furthest to avoid kicking, but most of them involve a fair amount of picking up the ball and carrying it.
33.
arguingwithsignposts
@ABL: No, USC is “paying to win and having an attitude about it.”
@efgoldman: The Ribbits are beating up the Jeebus Freaks Air Force right now. That can’t suck too bad.
@BGinCHI: I haven’t delved into the weeds re: the Stanford game to see what all is happening there. It’s possible they’re just playing to level. Which is bad.
Oh and FYWP.
36.
Linnaeus
As a U-M alum and lifelong fan, I heartily endorse the sentiment expressed in this post. Wish I could watch the game tonight.
37.
arguingwithsignposts
@Linkmeister: George Will gets a woody rhapsodizing about the slowest game this side of cricket, so his American Football hate is worth less than nothing. Also, too: bowties and blue jeans.
38.
arguingwithsignposts
@Roger Moore: Saw an Aussie Rules game the other day on ESPN3 – wow, that really is closer to “foot” ball.
THE Ohio State University. Not that other one. That extra, seemingly essential article always makes me snicker when some doofus blurts that out.
49.
BGinCHI
@Anya: Regale us with tales of your childhood and its magical loaves of bread for a penny.
50.
Dee Loralei
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: That was a good game. I used to love the wishbone. My beloved Sooners knew how to play it.
I was rooting for Army,because my oldest nephew is a cadet. My sister and brother-in-law bought season tickets this year, so they can see him for 5 minutes on game day.
And I’m with Cornerstone, I love, love, love college football. I watch as much as I can, and even had a bit of a football hangover after last weekends 5 days of football.
I see your fandom and raise you: I live in Melbourne Australia now. I’ve been up all Saturday night watching the early games at like 3 am on my puter through my Slingbox and my Virginia-based DirectTV sports package subscription. I had an easy time giving up cable news and enjoying better Indian food. But giving up college football? NEVAH! I used to watch from the early games until things wrapped up in Hawaii back home. I come as close to that as I can now.
55.
Corner Stone
@efgoldman: Why? Dude golfs his balls off in some of the best courses on the East Coast, is a multi-millionaire, and is just generally a hick sumbitch.
Gotta love that dude.
@adamchaz: Yeah, especially that crooked old sleaze Joe Paterno down the road in Happy Valley. THAT guy could never win games if he didn’t buy players. Oh…
59.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Corner Stone: Same place. I couldn’t talk my folks into setting one up at their place, so I invested in the service. Missed it too much.
I did not forget it. I was hugging it to myself and didn’t feel like sharing.
67.
Corner Stone
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: I just haven’t researched it enough, but for some reason I thought slingbox had to be in the broadcast area, and then was relayed anywhere across the world. I guess I’m not getting what it does.
68.
phantomist
“It was November 22, 1969
that they came to bury Michigan, all dressed in maize and blue;
The words were said, the prayers were read and everybody cried.
But when they closed the coffin, there was someone else inside.
Oh they came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn’t dead.
And when the game was over, it was someone else instead.
Eleven Michigan Wolverines put on the gloves of grey,
and as the organ played The Victors, they laid Woody Hayes away.”
69.
Corner Stone
Anya, dude, that replay for just the TD pass by SC should display why it’s so awesome. Maybe a 18 inch opening he threw that ball into from 40 yards away. To a guy running a stop and go route doing about 22MPH from a dead start.
70.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Corner Stone: It has to be hooked up to the signal receiver that brings in whatever you subscribe to. It’s basically a relay from your cable box/satellite receiver to the intertoobz, with software for your puter that lets you mouseclick a remote control interface so you can do anything you could with the remote in your hand, just with a bit of delay, so I now have to wait for commercial breaks to bounce between games instead of just hitting ‘last’ between plays all the time going back and forth super fast. When my internet is slow the picture quality can suck, but when it’s good, oh, glorious.
@efgoldman: Slow-witted and significantly less musical. That’s why dear Eng added that goofy ‘c’ to the name (Humperdinck). Between me and that prince that was too much of a wuss to handle Cary Elwes, well, he just didn’t need the associations.
Bad News/Good News from the East Grand Rapids 3rd/4th grade Rocket Football Team
Bad news first: My not-son/not-nephew/something-infinitely-cooler/my-son’s-little-brother weighed in at 128 lbs., 3 lbs. overweight. Couldn’t play. The Little Pioneers lost 20-0.
The good news: He took it very well. He would rather have played, but he was up on the sideline actively offering encouragement to his teammates. In the post-game speech from the coach it was made pretty clear that Jordan aka Newman is a vital part of the offense and defense (he’s been playing right guard on O and right tackle on D). I was talking to him at home afterwards, and he knows that even if he doesn’t get to play this year, it’s important that he helps the team by practicing as hard as possible. Kid’s gonna be the captain of the varsity Pioneers some day, I swear.
He’ll be rooting for the Irish tonight. I can forgive him that. He’s 9. Some day he’ll realize that he looks better in maize and blue.
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Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: You listening to the Cougar game on the radio? No tv this week, so I get BobRob and Roscoe P Coltrane (Jim Walden). Great start again this week. Nice to be on the positive side of a couple whuppins, even if the victims are truly terribad.
I just want to point out that the last time The Ohio State University lost to a team outside their division was to Oberlin College in 1920.
#OldTimeyHippies
81.
adamchaz
@efgoldman
Can’t argue with that, but fandom isn’t logical.
However I made peace with cheating a long time ago. As long as the athlete isn’t committing a crime I’m okay with it.
Everyone else is making money off them.
82.
Zagloba
ABL, I love you, but as a graduate of Notre Dame, I’m contractually obligated to thbbbbbbt in your general direction.
/Cheer, cheer…
83.
Keith G
@efgoldman: Many of us alums are sick at heart and extraordinarily mad at the behavior of the Tressel regime. I wish he would go on a missionary trip to…Islamabad.
I do wonder what needs to happen in order for D 1 football not to rot away in a swamp of greed (on all parts).
84.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): I understand why a 9 year old would love Notre Dame. The mascot is Lucky the Leprechaun! How could that mean anything but magical deliciousness?? Once he hits his teens, you can show him a few Regis Philbin clips and explain that ol’ Rege is your typical Notre Dame fan. That should fix your problem.
85.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: The game starts at 5, and it’s in Martin Stadium, so it should go all right. I’m cautiously optimistic the backup QB will continue to step up like he did last week. I’ll pay attention via the Interwebs. I have no idea when the next game is televised.
86.
Corner Stone
FAKE!!
FU!
TD!!
87.
Corner Stone
BALLS to the BALLS!
88.
arguingwithsignposts
@ABL: lol. aside from all the games they offered to forfeit, you mean??
He likes all that stuff, though. He goes to ND games with his mom. He’s such a big, handsome Irish/Sicilian kid that the St. Mary’s girls are all over him.
93.
Corner Stone
Yeah fudge nozzles! Drop it!
94.
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: Yeps. It’s impossible to understand how hard that is.
@Corner Stone: Although I’m beginning to think Garcia is the Tommy Glavine of QB’s. Apparently he needs a quarter (sometime 2-ish) to really warm up and hit his stride. Or he just likes to make me scream a barrage of epithets at him from my sofa.
We had a saying when I was in school: we can always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. AKA Couging it. :)
99.
Corner Stone
Chance for a FG try…
not sure what the hell that play call was
100.
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: I think it’s the ole ball coach’s fault for platooning him early in his career.
101.
Exurban Mom
Sigh. Okay people. The story behind the “The” in “The Ohio State University” is that the university switched their logo in the early 1990s from a scripty-looking OSU to a boxy The Ohio State University. Why? To avoid confusion with the other OSUs out there. Guess what? Penn State is officially The Pennsylvania State University, they just don’t use the longform name in their logo. They have “We Are Penn State” and that works out just great for them.
Cheaters? They are, sadly, in most programs. It’s endemic to college football, from both directions. Universities (and boosters) will do anything to recruit top players, and top players want the most they can get as soon as they can get it…no waiting three or four years until the pros come calling. I’m not defending it. I’m glad Ohio State got caught and is paying a proper penalty for their bad actions. But to believe that Ohio State is the only cheater out there is to be wildly naive.
And a football game in pretty much any Big Ten stadium is truly a life-altering experience. I watched Ohio State beat Michigan in 2004 at Ohio Stadium, and it was an unbelievable day. When the entire stadium sees that Ted Ginn is open, and collectively gasps and holds their breath to see if Troy Smith can a) see him and b) get him the ball…well, it was a truly amazing day. I was hugging people I never met before. I screamed my voice raw.
Those of you that don’t love football? I get it. But those of us that do? There’s nothing like it. A measly 60,000 at a Browns pro game will never match up to 105,000 raving lunatics at Ohio Stadium, or Michigan, or Penn State, or at a lot of the SEC team stadiums…it’s just another thing entirely.
102.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: My freshman year at Wazzu was the ’97 Rose Bowl year. Hence my irritation with Michigan. One more play, mofos!
103.
Phylllis
The words are like ashes in my mouth, but Tennessee is looking damn good.
Sigh. Okay people. The story behind the “The” in “The Ohio State University” is that the university switched their logo in the early 1990s from a scripty-looking OSU to a boxy The Ohio State University. Why? To avoid confusion with the other OSUs out there. Guess what? Penn State is officially The Pennsylvania State University, they just don’t use the longform name in their logo. They have “We Are Penn State” and that works out just great for them.
No. Nobody else goes out of their way to emphasize the definite article, like when pro players emphasize it in their introductions. And really, how much confusion is there between Ohio State and Oklahoma State?
105.
Thymezone
Shorter thread: Ohio State defense: “Everybody does it.”
Noted.
106.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Exurban Mom: Avoid confusion? Do Oklahoma St and Oregon St routinely cramp their style in Columbus? Do they double as imposter Ohio States? Pistol Pete and Bucky are cooler than Brutus, but really. They’re different states, and official means nothin’. It’s the emphasis that counts. If it was in the official name and nobody felt the need to not only include but emphasize it, we’d find something else to make fun of.
107.
Cacti
Hail to the auto workers! Hail to the circle j…
;-)
108.
Davis X. Machina
@Exurban Mom: Spoken like someone who never saw an Amherst-Williams game.
109.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Young’un. I started at Wazzu in 93, went to the five major bowls after that before finally getting sheepskin in 2003. Interestingly enough I didn’t leave Pullman until 2005. Now I’m less than two miles from Huskyville. The horror.
ETA: That’s three Wazzu alums on BJ. And only one still in the US.
Only people that look better in maize and blue are in the band (which is the grandaddy of them all).
Sorry, but “The Granddaddy of Them All” moniker is already taken. The Rose Bowl invites you to pick another.
111.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: I didn’t leave Pullman until ’08. I stuck around, got my Masters, and taught there as an instructor until I left the country. I flew out on September 15th, 2008. The Alzheimers may get me, but until then, the memory of watching the CNN at SeaTac while the stock market tanked and McCain did his ‘the economy is fundamentally sound’ thing as I moved away won’t be going anywhere. When I laid over in Auckland the footage was people moving stuff out of Lehman and stuff about AIG.
112.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman: oh, and the only thing sadder than a big-college football smack-talk competition is a big-college football *marching band* smack-talk competition. Grambling would like a word with you.
113.
Zagloba
@Roger Moore: Sorry, but “The Granddaddy of Them All” moniker is already taken. The Rose Bowl invites you to pick another.
When our band is older than your bowl game, let alone its advertising tagline, you’re not in much of a position to talk.
(Not to mention that UM’s band is also older than your bowl game. Also, too.)
@arguingwithsignposts: Not that I care a whole lot, but FWIW it is the brand (if you will)chosen by the entire university. All formal groups seem to have their idiosyncratic ways of “marking their territory”.
When I moved down to what was SWAC territory back in the day, I was a bit perplexed that every school had a hand signal: Cougar paw, Bear paw, Gig ’em, Hook ’em, et al. Yet, I was not as bothered as you seem to be.
I found out through Book of Faces that one of my old college friends married a Kiwi and lives there now. It really is true that Cougs literally go everywhere. But that’s why we have an alumni association in Nairobi.
@efgoldman: My old college band director (who incidentally is still there) is an Ohio State alum. He mocks his old school early and often. Incidentally the guy who directs bands at Washington also graduated OSU. He got to dot the I. It’s actually a big deal for them.
If they had stopped at “*The* OSU” or something, that might have stopped it. But as it is, it’s just bullshit, regardless of brand. It’s like the “Big 10” which isn’t 10. It’s 11, at least *this* year. As has been pointed out, it’s not like there are a lot of competing brands for the *ohio* state university. Just say “Ohio State University” and be done with it.
I just made a quick trip to the grocery store. A couple of times a year, this store gets books from a remainder company. I’ve seen some interesting stuff in the bins. This evening I spied Sarah Palin’s face… it was a paperback copy of Going Rogue for $7.00. A remainder bin!
124.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: Why’d you have to go and broadcast that on the intertoobz?! Next week O’Keefe is gonna start trolling the halls of my old department picking on all the middle aged lefties I was buddies with, because we’re part of the secret Muslim Kenyan usurper network. I just hope lil Jimmy doesn’t find out about the secret handshake. Breitbart could get a year of free Limbaugh eggs for breakfast off of what that clip could make him when he sold it to Drudge. Marxist Siren!
125.
Keith G
@ Keith G
Correcting a mistake: The schools I pointed out were SWC not SWAC. Sorry.
126.
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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College football is full of grifters, just like Amnesty International. And grifters gonna grift, amirite?
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127.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: I’d be amazed if O’Keefe could even find Pullman on a map. Plus you and I both know the real hardcore Marxists are eight miles to the east. This tiny little patch of blue in blood red Idaho.
128.
Corner Stone
BS penalty but Lattimore stroking it.
129.
Keith G
@arguingwithsignposts: I understand. Sometime a little outrage is good for the soul.
130.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: Ha, I always thought it’d be fun to snag a passel of Moscow hippies and go terrorize the Coeur d’ Alene resort on Labor Day weekend. Alas, there was usually a football game on, and I always stayed for them, because it was one of the only ones that was pretty much guaranteed to be in great weather before that cold rain starts.
131.
Libby's Person
Can anyone explain why many of the comments I submit don’t show up? I hit ‘submit’, and the comment shows up on the list with an edit countdown, but when I come back later the comment has disappeared without a trace. It’s frustrating. I don’t comment often, and I’ll probably quit even trying to comment if this happens again. Too bad, too – BJ is my favorite place to hang out on the intertubes.
132.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Every home football Saturday for ten years I had that horrifically heavy woolen suit on. And I loved every second of it. Regardless of the weather, I was there blowing my guts out. I definitely had myself a good time there.
I kinda like the hippie idea. Maybe for shits and giggles on Homecoming weekend.
133.
Zagloba
@Libby’s Person: Can anyone explain why many of the comments I submit don’t show up?
The Gophers’ head coach just collapsed on the sideline.
142.
Corner Stone
TD Beechayz!
143.
arguingwithsignposts
@Corner Stone: I take it from the lack of Stuckinred comments that this is good news for the ‘Cocks?
144.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Linnaeus: As a Washingtonian, I will concede that the look of distaste we have for Southern Californians isn’t that different from the one Oregonians wear. There is that.
@Libby’s Person: You made it. Every so often that happens to me and I wonder if i hit enter before it has submitted.
151.
Yutsano
@Geoduck: I get annoyed when I tell folks I’m from Washington and they immediately think DC. But I do work for the Feds.
152.
JPL
@arguingwithsignposts: He sold his Boise State/GA tickets and that alone paid for his season tickets. Of course now he probably wants to unload his season tickets.. lol At least GA doesn’t have on those ugly uniforms.
As a Washingtonian, I will concede that the look of distaste we have for Southern Californians isn’t that different from the one Oregonians wear. There is that.
I’m of the opinion that people from CA have ruined many states, not only OR, WA and ID.
Try buying real estate anywhere around the Austin, TX area.
154.
West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)
Go Irish!
155.
Jeff Sherry
Hopefully the Wolverines and Irish can close the coffin lids on the Rodriguez and Weis eras.
156.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Yutsano: Yeah how come you guys don’t root for the Redskins ;-)
157.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Geoduck: I don’t think the Huskies suck, but somebody should tell that to sports radio jocks Brock and Salk and Softy. Will somebody from Philadelphia or Chicago please take over sports radio!
Meanwhile, heading north on the FDR after dinner in Chinatown and 30+ police cars with lights and full on sirens just blew by. I stopped counting them after 30…. they all got off at 42 nd. Never seen anything like it.
170.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: 59-7, only gave up a score on a kickoff return. Gotta figure that cover team is tired, yo. We might’ve had 700 yards of offense. It’s gonna be close.
171.
Corner Stone
Oooo. Every one seems to like it when my Cocks rush right up the middle.
172.
Corner Stone
Whoever took the Over for this one is buying lobsta tonight.
My elderly cat, Mojii, who refused to eat this morning finally, at about 8:00 showed some interest in food. I rushed around and offered something he normally likes and he ate a small amount of it and seemed to enjoy it.
I am much relieved and hopeful for the future.
You can no go back to your regularly scheduled program.
175.
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: Have faith in the Cocks. For they shall not forsake you.
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Are you kidding? I wouldn’t wish that kind of bedding for a water rat, much less a hamster! Get your priorities straight, mate. Now bird cage liner, that’s a different story…
183.
arguingwithsignposts
@The Dangerman: I think they might have even gotten cock-blocked.
184.
joeyess
JeeeeeeeeeSAAAAAAAHHHHHHHSSSSSS! Get that fucking logo off of the front page. Is ever front pager a Michigan fan? Fuck!
Fucking post something new already.
Please?
185.
RareSanity
Any UGA alums hanging out in the thread?
Since stuckinred isn’t around, I want to find out what the lunatic fringe at Georgia will think about this loss. I mean the Bulldogs looked 100% better, but they still lost.
186.
The Dangerman
I’m heartened to see that this season’s trends for ugly ass uniforms continues tonight with UM and ND; now, Maryland set a mark that will be hard to beat, so they will have to work on it.
187.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
Hail to the Giant Weasels, Champions of the Stench! Sorry, I just love that Wolverines are basically ferrets on steroids.
188.
Corner Stone
@RareSanity: The got beat by The Cocks.
As predicted.
189.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@RareSanity: Their schedule gets a lot more manageable from here. I think they could take Tennessee and Florida. That has to count for something. Maybe not enough, but, something.
190.
Phylllis
@RareSanity: Maybe not the final nail in his coffin, but one of the last.
191.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: This is the beauty of being a Coug. None of this National Championship every year or bust pressure. We win life is sweet. We lose we shake it off and move on. Allez Le Cougs!
192.
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: Told ya to have faith in The Cocks. They always come through.
193.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: That may be, but the pain of that 2002 Apple Cup still smarts a little. No Gesser injury and no Ed Reed return against BC = rematch with the Buckeyes. Not sure we would’ve won, but it would’ve been nice to have a chance at it.
194.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
What an exhausting fucking game. I’m going to post before I read upthread. This may be the beginning of the end for Mark Richt but that team can hold their heads high.
195.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Yutsano: No I was trying to be a smart ass, I feel for Washingtonians who have to deal with idiots who think Washington as DC rather than a state. Like those who think Northern California as San Francisco, thinking nothing exists from Sacramento to the Oregon border.
I’m a transplanted Buckeye in Tacoma, Go Browns, Go Seahawks.
Hoping for a Tevaris Jackson good game
196.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I was at the game in my new seats. The post game interview was not much different than many he has given recently. We are so close, did so much right. I don’t know how much more that will fly. The interviews on ESPN with people under the Arch, IMHO, were uncalled for. The kids on both teams busted their asses. As for the Cocks always come through. Always, come on.
197.
MikeJake
Go Blow!
198.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: I have a whole list of coulda woulda shouldas, but the unexpected twists and turns are part of what make the games exciting. The real secret of football is losing a component from your team but still managing to be successful with the person who steps up. Which is why the kid who’s backing up Tuel is really having me hopeful so far this season. But it’s early yet.
@Mr Stagger Lee: I figured you were. My point still stands though.
199.
S. cerevisiae
Too bad Oregon State doesn’t play South Carolina this year – the headline writes itself “Beavers pounded by Cocks”
Believe it or not, I had really hoped that they would lose by more.
Wait, hear me out…
I really do think that Richt’s time has passed and I just don’t want to see Georgia suffer under the “Bobby Cox Syndrome” where a coach loses enough to be replaced, but, always wins just enough to where you can’t really fire him.
Of course with Bobby Cox, it was more of a post-season thing. But with college football, either you win during the regular season or you don’t go to the post-season (BCS bowls).
EDIT: Basically either win big or lose big. “Just barely” winning or losing leads to tough personel decisions.
202.
mcd410x
Call me a skeptic — and I’m fiercely proud of it! — but I’d like to see some sort of proof of this from D.G. earlier:
The effect was to let even low information citizens know that the President was giving a major speech right before the start of football
Frankly, I be surprised if low information voters knew of the controversy at all. That’s sort of the definition of “low information.”
203.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I have no problem with that and I guess it will just have to get ugly for it to happen. I’ve lived through Jim Valek, Bob Blackman, Gary Moeller, celebrated with Mike White, and Mackovick at Illinois and you know the lineup here for the last 26 years. I love the fucking game and what I saw tonight was what I though to be a great game. Mistakes, yeah. Do I hate Spurrier as much as I hated Schembeckler, never. But damn, the pucker factor was in play till the end and that’s what I’m in it for.
I always liked the way Spurrier used to poke people with a stick, “Georgia has all these high rated recruiting classes, I don’t know what happens to them once they get on campus.”
He doesn’t do that anymore though. He’s not nearly as fun as he was at Florida.
206.
Zifnab25
GO HORNS!
207.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Oh, he gets em in, maybe not as blatant but it’s there.
Spurrier suggested that Grantham, who came over from the NFL, maybe wasn’t ready for the zone read play that Marcus Lattimore ran over and over again on his way to 182 rushing yards against the Bulldogs.
“That little inside zone play, the NFL doesn’t run that play,” Spurrier said. “So that’s a new little scheme, I guess. Anyway, you’ll have to ask them. I’m sure they knew we were going to run it, but they certainly didn’t stop it much.”
208.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
fucking michigan logo on the thread, it’s halftime and all the ninny’s are chatting it up about some sci-fi shit!
@RareSanity: When Mike White came to Illinois we had the first JC transfers ever in the Big 10. Bo said we were “the Oakland Raiders of the Big 10” and they were the “Harvard of the Midwest”.
213.
JPL
It’s time to watch some tennis. Although it’s only the semi’s, I think whoever wins this game wins the trophy.
214.
replicnt6
As an Ann Arbor resident, can I just say: “You football fans get off my lawn!!”
(N.B. There are no football fans actually on my lawn, but they were on my roads.)
I’ve been predicting that some drunken fool is going to get hit by a car after the game and that will be the last night game at Michigan.
I think because I grew up in the south, it always seemed like the Big 10 as a whole, always had an inferiority complex. They were always trying to prove they were as good as the Big812, Pac101214 and the SEC.
Everybody knew that Michigan and Ohio State (EDIT: and Penn State, can’t believe I forgot them) could compete with anyone and every now and again Michigan State, Wisconsin or Iowa would go on a tear. But it just seemed like it was never enough.
I think college football is more fun when the traditional powers are relevant…well, except for Notre Dame, fuck those guys! They think they’re too good to be in the Big10 where they clearly belong. Hell even Miami and Florida State joined conferences.
The times they are a changing and when kids can go to South Florida and still be on national TV and SportsCenter, it’s hard to convince 18 year old alpha males to go to places like Ann Arbor or Columbus when they can go to warm weather schools in the south, southwest, or on the west coast.
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@RareSanity: Having spent 26 years here there is no question in my mind about the dominance of the SEC. The notion that nothing matter but a national championship just doesn’t cut it for me because it diminishes the game as whole. I feel fortunate to have three teams that I really care about and even got to go to the National Championship when the Hokies got throttled by FSU. I also have a buddy whose son just finished up his career at Wisc-Whitewater and won 3 D-III National Championships. The Stagg Bowl in Roanoke cost 12 bucks and the “big screen” was on a trailer in the endzone. I listen to these local meatballs talk with scorn about the Big Ten and everyone else and I just don’t give a fuck. I love the game and all that WE”RE NUMBER ONE shit means nothing to me.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Here’s a
“rarity” from the Banner Herald message board:
As a College, HS, and MS coach in Georgia for over 25 years (and a UGA alum – 84), I’d like to add a few nuggets for thought here:
First, the adage about a team normally showing their greatest improvement between their first and second game – it is true…..and it certainly showed tonight. The offensive line and defensive secondary played much better.
Second, the coaching staff can make calls – both good and bad (the pass on 3rd and 2 early in the game)……but ultimately, it is the athletes on the field that make the plays – again, both good and bad. The D should be proud, the O line should be encouraged, and yes, the normally solid Special Teams should be embarrased.
The game boiled down to this one fact – USC was able to capitalize on each of UGA’s mistakes and that was the ballgame.
To all of the naysayers, UGA did outplay USC as a whole of over 100 plays, even Spurrier admitted it – sadly though…..the 4 key plays all went against UGA. The one thing that can definitely be pinned on the coaching staff – the lack of coverage on the fake punt.
All of this being said – massive improvement was made from the Boise State fiasco. Is Coach Richt still on the hot seat – yes. But after the improvement shown from week 1, is there hope for this year? Yes as well.
So for all of the fair weather fans – keep posting and griping. For those of us whose professional careers actually depend on the efforts of teenagers and young adults – I can state with a clear mind that UGA is headed in the right direction with this year’s team.
I’m with you there, I mean in the final analysis, it is just a game. A damn entertaining one, but a game none the less.
Although the trash talker (and southerner) in me loves to poke people with the following:
Big 10: “You’re just too slow.”
Pac 12: “You guys play no defense.”
Big 12: “Who? You mean Texas and Oklahoma are actually in a conference? With other teams? Who knew?”
Big East: “You guys are playing football now?”
Usually the responses are, something to the affect of the SEC teams not leaving the south or cheating. To which I respond with the classic southern line of “If you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t tryin” and “We only need to leave the south to win national title games. Except when its in New Orleans.”
But that kind of stuff, when good natured, is what college football is all about. But, there are too many people that take it entirely to seriously. Lighten up Frances! (what’s the plural or Frances?) LOL
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I witcha bro, I can’t wait to read the police reports from tonight’s post-game activities. This thing of thousands of people coming to town that don’t even try to go to the games makes it pretty wild down there. I get the hell out as fast as I can.
They definitely looked much improved, but there is still a certain “nastiness”, that is still absent.
My coach in high school always told us, “Winning is an attitude. Good teams always make plays and win because they know that they are supposed to. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy.”
I just don’t see that, “we know we’re supposed to win” attitude at Georgia. I didn’t even see it when they won those SEC titles. It always just seemed like they were happy they won, they thought they could win. But never that, “we are the best team on the field and we WILL win.”
That’s the swagger Alabama has now, Florida had for a few years, Auburn had last year, and LSU has every couple of years. I just have not sen it under Richt and with out it, they will never win a national championship.
Richt is a good coach, I just don’t think he has the temperament needed, from an SEC head coach, to win a national championship. Even when they won those SEC titles, they weren’t just destroying people because they knew their opponent shouldn’t have been on the same field with them.
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mcd410x
RAYS!!
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YellowJournalism
Third Coug checking in. Comrade, you and I were freshmen at the same time. I attended the Apple Cup that year in the Husky section because my grandfather was a UW grad and his alum seats were the only ones we could get. My dad, also a Coug, and I sat in the middle of a sea of purple and cold in our crimson and grey. Yeah, we were those people. But a few Husky fans actually wished us well as we were leaving the game.
My other fav memory was finding an autographed Go Cougs sign
That’s bigger than the Dreisbach comeback against UVA. It’s just….WOW!
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MikeJake
You got lucky, Michigan.
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The Dangerman
One of the more exciting, butt ugly defense on both sides, games in recent memory. Can’t really call it a win, so call it a Notre Dame loss. Ugly, but exciting.
That is when you adopt other teams to live vicariously through. As long as it’s far enough removed from “your team” there’s no negative to it.
I grew up as a Georgia fan, but I played a couple of years at Georgia Tech. So I root for both, unless they’re playing each other, then just Tech.
However, I adopted Miami at one point in time, mostly because they were the “bad boys” of college football. I love big personalities and arrogant sons-of-guns, that actually back it up. But even that has started to suck lately.
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Magma
Swallow that load of FAIL you ND bastards– Go Blue!
My alma mater dropped football after their 1992 season when the NCAA, for some reason, decided that schools shouldn’t be allowed to have Division 2 football teams, but Division 1 everything else.
The Gophers losing all the fucking time reduces my enjoyment of watching the games.
I hear ya; right now, UCLA is up 14-7 on mighty San Jose State, with the Spartans driving to tie it up.
/when’s basketball season start?
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Yutsano
@The Dangerman: The Pac-12 will be very interesting this year. But the way things are looking I bet the Beavers end up at the bottom. They seem to just be flailing right now. I’ve been wrong before though.
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befuggled
As a middle-aged Michigan fan, let me tell you that I am *damn* glad that I live within two blocks of multiple hospitals.
@RareSanity: As a long-time ex-Madison resident, I root for Wisconsin every game of the year except for one (and they won’t play Michigan this year unless it’s in the Big Ten championship game). This is despite the fact that I really dislike Brett Bielema.
In the NFL, I adopted the Patriots once Tom Brady started playing (he went to Michigan and I picked him up as a late addition to my fantasy football team that year). I’ve felt a little guilty over the years.
I hear ya; right now, UCLA is up 14-7 on mighty San Jose State, with the Spartans driving to tie it up.
Oh, boo hoo. You haven’t won fewer than 4 games since 1963. You’ve had ten winning seasons in the last 20, and two more at .500. The Gophers have averaged just over four wins a season in that time. We were the first team ever to finish 11th in the Big 10.
Right now, 17-10 Bruins; if UCLA goes down to SJSU and since OSU already lost to Sac State (my mighty Cal Poly Mustangs biggest rival), well, some ugly ball being played.
Edit: 17-17 now; predictably, Spartans score on a busted D play. IIRC, I think they were a 23 point dog.
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Chet
Between the nailbiter at the Big House, the Djokovic-Federer classic, and my Tigers notching yet another W (on a walkoff homer by – of all people – Brandon Inge), this was a most satisfying day of televised sports consumption for Yours Truly.
@The Dangerman: My Santa Clara Broncos’ schedule used to look like:
Cal Poly
Sac State
UC Davis
San Francisco State
St. Mary’s
Southern Utah
Cal Lutheran
Humboldt State
UC Santa Barbara
Sonoma State
Chico State
I know that St Mary’s, Chico State, UCSB, SFSU don’t have teams any more…
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Yutsano
@The Dangerman: RIDE HIGH YE MUSTANGS!! I’ve actually been to the Cal Poly campus. Kinda nice, San Luis Obispo was a bit of a rathole when I visited though. It was fun though.
I honestly have no idea how the Pac-12 is going to shake out. It will depend a lot on how USC decides to regard the rest of the league.
San Luis Obispo was a bit of a rathole when I visited though.
It’s hit and miss; for next visit, two tips:
1) Get away from the U; landlords in SLO love ripping students off massively (!!!), so student dominated housing (a goodly portion of SLO) can be a hole.
2) Head for the Vineyards; there are some good ones locally and the areas of them tend to be nice.
Oh, a bonus tip; head for Avila Beach. Water tends to be warmer there if ocean is your thing (just watch for sharks)
@The Dangerman: I love SLO, I think it’s a great town. I have friends who used to live in Santa Maria (ugh), and when I would visit them, we’d go in to San Luis. Thankfully, for them, my friends now live in the Santa Barbara area, away from Wingnut Central.
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Yutsano
@The Dangerman: I don’t have any immediate plans to return (though that could change) as my main reason for going lives in Boise now. And that will most likely be my next trip. And that area I’m a wee bit more acquainted with. But I did live there a year.
Yea, SM blows, even more than Lompoc (actually, I enjoy Lompoc because of the La Purisima Golf Course, which is all kinds of excellent).
One of the tricks to the Central Coast is finding the gems in the out of the way places (La Purisima is kinda like that, being out in the sticks a little bit); there is a fine steak place in Casmalia (fairly sure it is the only establishment in Casmalia; makes it easy to find). There is a great (I mean like gourmet great) Pizza place in Los Alamos (it’s only open for table service on weekends, IIRC).
Many times (Pismo, not SLO; well, not inside SLO, McClintock’s during Farmer’s Market night in SLO is great); I prefer Jocko’s in Nipomo (not for ambiance, which is pretty much a hole, but a fine steak).
Kinda like the above comment; McClintock’s gets all the attention, but I prefer other places. For example, best fish taco on the Coast is in Avila at Olde Port; again, kinda out of the way.
@The Dangerman: Sure, I understand that. I was in a really great breakfast/lunch place in either Cayucos or Cambria once, whose name I can’t remember any more. It was in what I think was a large old house, so there were several different dining rooms.
McLintock’s has an odd place in my past, the one in Pismo Beach… the first time I was ever in it, I was in SLO because my dad had had a (later turned out to be fatal) car accident outside the SLO airport, and one of his co-workers took my mom, brother and I there for dinner.
The McLintock’s people at least used to also have a pretty decent Mexican place in SLO itself, on Monterey Street up above Downtown.
I am having an unexpectedly difficult time with the anniversary. I don’t really know why. I grew up in Long Island, but was in Tucson on 9/11. I didn’t lose anyone I knew.
Yesterday, I did a Google search looking for the Esquire story on the Falling Man photograph. I inadvertently got some images of some of the jumpers, splattered on the sidewalks. I couldn’t sleep last night.
I need tomorrow to be over. I need to be suzanne +1. Or +2.
It was in what I think was a large old house, so there were several different dining rooms.
Sounds like Brambles in Cambria. Good place. If I’m in Cambria, it’s to go to Linn’s for their pies (and if I don’t eat at Linn’s, there is a Deli across the street that I can eat and still be hungry enough to devour a Linn’s pie afterwards).
…a pretty decent Mexican place in SLO itself, on Monterey Street up above Downtown.
There’s a Mexican place on Monterey well North of downtown; it’s … acceptable. Not sure it’s still affiliated with McClintock’s, though. There’s a new Mexican place downtown I’ve been meaning to check out, but … haven’t yet.
Well, UCLA edged out the win; wasn’t remotely pretty, so I guess I’ll go to the boards and see the calls for Neuheisel’s head.
@The Dangerman: Hmm, I just looked at the Brambles website, and I don’t think that’s it. It may not have been in Cambria. Looking at the map, it definitely wasn’t in Cayucos.
Looking at Google Maps for SLO, it looks like the Mexican place I’m thinking of isn’t there any more. I was staying at either the Best Western or Super 8, and it was on the other side of the street.
ETA: The McLintocks place I’m thinking of was at 1850 Monterey Street
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Yutsano
@Comrade Kevin: Or I should have taken the right at La Jollah. The way he says it.
Another thing interesting about the Central Coast is the number of times the places Monterey, and Hollister show up. You don’t see many San Jose or San Francisco streets.
Oh, THAT place; don’t even know the name of it these days (it’s gone through several names in the past, well, few years; it’s not the only location in town that opens and closes with far too great a frequency – there’s a place down by the Mission that is the local joke for changes in names, ownership, etc). It’s probably been a decade since I’ve thought about going there; drive by often enough I should at least know the name.
I thought I had nailed it with Brambles; Cambria’s not really the place I go for eats (unless it’s pie) so don’t have a second guess. Cayucos is a bit of a wasteland for restaurants.
You weren’t thinking Madonna Inn were you? Another place that gets the ink but locals avoid like the plague (killer cakes though).
@The Dangerman: Nope, it definitely wasn’t the Madonna Inn, I would definitely remember that place. The place was on Highway 1, or one of its side streets. Doesn’t matter. I’m sure I’ve been in Linn’s, as well, looks very familiar.
As for the place near the mission, if I’m thinking of the same place, I have the feeling I was in one of its many incarnations, as a Mexican restaurant. Are you thinking of a place with a combination of an inside and a patio?
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@suzanne: Suzanne, I’m so sorry. I wish I could help. I wish I could do a lot of things. I hope you get through the day quietly. Also? Avoid all but the kindest websites. Partake not of the google today, for that is a recipe for unpleasantness and heartbreak.
@Comrade Kevin: I appear to use the word “place” a lot, sometimes.
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Yutsano
@Comrade Kevin: Santa Barbara is kind of the crossing point between LA and Central California. There’s kind of a curve west into the Pacific along the coast about 40 miles north of LA. That’s where Santa Barbara is. My mom’s horse trainer lives down there.
Partake not of the google today, for that is a recipe for unpleasantness and heartbreak.
Seriously.
I am recording the ceremonies tomorrow morning on my DVR because I want to see the memorial. Early reports are mixed. But I think tomorrow is a good day to start sniffing glue.
@BillinGlendaleCA(aka 10amla): I wish I could remember who first said it (though I think it was originally about Lou Holtz), but Neuheisel is one of those guys who leaves a trail of slime everywhere he goes.
They said the likelihood of a highly competitive 2012 race is increasing as the Republican field, once dismissed by many Democrats as too inexperienced and conservative to pose a serious threat, has started narrowing to two leading candidates, Mitt Romney and Rick Perry, who have executive experience and messages built around job creation.
George W Bush had executive experience and likely a message built around job creation.
That doesn’t mean that he or Romney or Perry are better prepared to be president.
GWBush was an inadequate a man to assume the presidency the day he left it as when he was inaugurated. (Due to the Supreme Court, not the popular vote.)
A lot can change in the coming year. I have always worried the president seemed too detached from unemployment, and put too much faith in the economy turning around in time. What if it doesn’t?
@Elizabelle: That article is goddamn terrible. I did post a comment, for all the good (none) it will do. The comments are, actually, even worse than the article. There’s a parade of numbskulls who think a primary challenge is a totally awesome idea.
It’s a deplorable article, following on the heels of his well-received American Jobs Act speech, and presumably appearing on Page 1 on their Sunday, September 11 issue.
Which probably more people than usual will buy or see.
I just hope we will have the last laugh in November.
(I do understand how people get frustrated with Obama’s “let’s not call the Republicans out” persona. Even more with the “let’s ignore their depravity and praise their occasional good ideas to the heavens.” He’s been an effective president, though.)
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Yeah, I commented as well. Hope a lot of people will. It’s amazing how quickly and fiercely the detractors turned out.
(The other thing I’m seeing is online commenters denying FDR did anything that helped get us out of the Depression. It was the war that did it. Right.)
…one of its many incarnations, as a Mexican restaurant. Are you thinking of a place with a combination of an inside and a patio?
Yes, that’s the place; I don’t think I ever ate there in that iteration, but they had good Margaritas. It’s a GREAT location and great environment, but just can’t make a go of it. Been that way for many years (it’s not just the recent shitty economy)…
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Barry
And it is now sunny in Ann Arbor, at 4:30 PM (the game is a night game, starting at 8 PM, and possibly ending Sunday morning).
ppcli
Go Blue!
ET
Auburn won. Boo.
They barely won last week. I wonder if they will get to the end of the season with a better record than they deserve.
Corner Stone
Go Cocks!
ABL
@Barry: I went to a game in Ann Arbor once and boy howdy! That’s what college football is all about.
It’s like going to a basketball game at Carolina.
Good drunken times.
Anya
I really don’t get football. I am glad I am marying an effete hipster who does not care for it.
Corner Stone
@Anya: More for me!
arguingwithsignposts
@ABL:
losing and having an attitude about it? ;)
BGinCHI
My favorite team is whoever is playing ND.
Go MI.
Suffern ACE
@Corner Stone: What exactly does one less effete hipster on the market get you?
BGinCHI
@ABL:
Fixed to reflect Hoosier Basketball supremacy.
arguingwithsignposts
Note to FPers – italic cleanup in thread one below.
arguingwithsignposts
@BGinCHI: Now you’re going to call out burnspbesq to do his Duke smack talk.
Corner Stone
@Suffern ACE: Women who may be attracted to same?
No!!
Moar football for me to consume!!
Gimme!
BGinCHI
@arguingwithsignposts: F Duke.
Burns and I can agree on Liverpool, but after that it’s probably carnage.
Oh, and I imagine if they haven’t already, Stanford is going to beat Duke by a hundred today.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman:
That’s what I do a lot of the time, unless someone’s threatening to screw up the BCS system. Because that’s how I roll.
Yutsano
@BGinCHI:
10-7 near the half. Something strange happening with Luck today.
ABL
@arguingwithsignposts: i thought that label was reserved for USC?!
Anya
@Corner Stone: I really don’t get why it’s even called “Football”? This aptly describes my feelings:
I find people who are football mad are generally the high strung personality types.
eemom
@Anya:
I don’t get it either. Alas, we are doomed to endless gazillions of these threads between now and the end of January.
BGinCHI
@Yutsano: Stanford ought to be killing them.
Too bad OSU didn’t lose to Toledo. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer program if they had….
TheStone
Meatchicken fans should enjoy the lights tonight cuz they wont wanna turn em on for a long time after the Irish are done w/ the Skunkbears.
BGinCHI
@Anya: You are Andy Rooney, aren’t you.
I knew you sounded familiar.
Linkmeister
Bah. Washington 21 points in the first quarter against Hawai’i. UH got 14 back but then gave up another score. 28-14 UW over UH at halftime.
eemom
@Anya:
and to the rest of the world “football” means soccer, which IS played with the foot.
We are so fucked up as a nation.
arguingwithsignposts
@Anya: Because we can’t call it “war between fiefdoms,” because that name was already taken.
BGinCHI
@TheStone: Good trash talk.
Still, it must be hard to bring even that when you’re about to go 0-2. ND might as well go back to tightened academic standards. The current strategy isn’t helping. And at least there’d be a shred of self-respect.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman:
That’s basically my metric, as well.
And ECU might pull it out vs. VT. VT is always overrated.
Linkmeister
Politically George Will is a bum, but I do like his line here:
Not to say I dislike football (college edition).
Corner Stone
@Anya: Spoken by someone who doesn’t understand the existential struggle of life.
Strategy, position, communication, execution.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
Eegh, Meechigan… My Cougs are just now kicking off. I actually got sucked into the Army/San Diego State game earlier. I was scouting next week’s opponent and was impressed to see Army not just going option, but going old school vintage 1985 wishbone. They almost pulled off the upset too. All the more remarkable considering they fumbled the ball like 8 times.
Roger Moore
@Anya:
It’s called “football” because it’s descended from an earlier game in which kicking was more important. There are actually a whole bunch of football games, including Association (soccer), Rugby, Gaelic, Australian Rules, Canadian, and American. Association is the odd man out in using a round ball and forbidding people from touching it with their hands. American football goes the furthest to avoid kicking, but most of them involve a fair amount of picking up the ball and carrying it.
arguingwithsignposts
@ABL: No, USC is “paying to win and having an attitude about it.”
jeffreyw
Corned beef on rye. That is not all.
Yutsano
@efgoldman: The Ribbits are beating up the
Jeebus FreaksAir Force right now. That can’t suck too bad.@BGinCHI: I haven’t delved into the weeds re: the Stanford game to see what all is happening there. It’s possible they’re just playing to level. Which is bad.
Oh and FYWP.
Linnaeus
As a U-M alum and lifelong fan, I heartily endorse the sentiment expressed in this post. Wish I could watch the game tonight.
arguingwithsignposts
@Linkmeister: George Will gets a woody rhapsodizing about the slowest game this side of cricket, so his American Football hate is worth less than nothing. Also, too: bowties and blue jeans.
arguingwithsignposts
@Roger Moore: Saw an Aussie Rules game the other day on ESPN3 – wow, that really is closer to “foot” ball.
Linnaeus
@BGinCHI:
That would have made my Saturday…almost.
adamchaz
What is with the O. State hate.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman:
His baseball writing archives are online. I haven’t checked since SRM died, but I’m amazed he was able to type 800 words with one hand.
Anya
@Linkmeister: perfect!
@BGinCHI: Ha!
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@adamchaz:
Mine was established during the ‘choke the QB when you don’t think anyone is looking’ stunt against Wisconsin a few years back.
Barry
@ABL: “It’s like going to a basketball game at Carolina.
Good drunken times.”
But much colder.
Anya
@arguingwithsignposts: I like it.
As for the rest of you football mad crowd, I am going out to have fun, so don’t worry I won’t ruin the fun with my andy rooney like observations.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman:
FTFY
BGinCHI
@efgoldman: +1.
Plus the cheats.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
THE Ohio State University. Not that other one. That extra, seemingly essential article always makes me snicker when some doofus blurts that out.
BGinCHI
@Anya: Regale us with tales of your childhood and its magical loaves of bread for a penny.
Dee Loralei
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: That was a good game. I used to love the wishbone. My beloved Sooners knew how to play it.
I was rooting for Army,because my oldest nephew is a cadet. My sister and brother-in-law bought season tickets this year, so they can see him for 5 minutes on game day.
And I’m with Cornerstone, I love, love, love college football. I watch as much as I can, and even had a bit of a football hangover after last weekends 5 days of football.
tom
Oh, you rock, ABL. Go Blue!
Thymezone
@adamchaz:
Have you BEEN to Ohio? It’s Kentucky without the charm. Come on.
adamchaz
@Thymezone
I’m from Columbus and went to O. State. Everyone cheats in big time college sports. I haven’t spent much time in KY.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Dee Loralei:
I see your fandom and raise you: I live in Melbourne Australia now. I’ve been up all Saturday night watching the early games at like 3 am on my puter through my Slingbox and my Virginia-based DirectTV sports package subscription. I had an easy time giving up cable news and enjoying better Indian food. But giving up college football? NEVAH! I used to watch from the early games until things wrapped up in Hawaii back home. I come as close to that as I can now.
Corner Stone
@efgoldman: Why? Dude golfs his balls off in some of the best courses on the East Coast, is a multi-millionaire, and is just generally a hick sumbitch.
Gotta love that dude.
Corner Stone
Blitz bitchez!!
Corner Stone
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Where is your slingbox located?
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@adamchaz: Yeah, especially that crooked old sleaze Joe Paterno down the road in Happy Valley. THAT guy could never win games if he didn’t buy players. Oh…
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Corner Stone: Same place. I couldn’t talk my folks into setting one up at their place, so I invested in the service. Missed it too much.
Svensker
@Anya:
Young guys in spandex tights who run around a lot while sweating testosterone? What’s not to get? Huddle!
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Svensker: You forgot the ass-smacking as encouragement
Yutsano
@Svensker:
Peyton Hillis. Yeah baby!
Corner Stone
BALLS!!
Corner Stone
FYWP. Go Cocks!
BGinCHI
@Corner Stone: Some calls it a kaiser box but I calls it a sling box.
Svensker
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink:
I did not forget it. I was hugging it to myself and didn’t feel like sharing.
Corner Stone
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: I just haven’t researched it enough, but for some reason I thought slingbox had to be in the broadcast area, and then was relayed anywhere across the world. I guess I’m not getting what it does.
phantomist
“It was November 22, 1969
that they came to bury Michigan, all dressed in maize and blue;
The words were said, the prayers were read and everybody cried.
But when they closed the coffin, there was someone else inside.
Oh they came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn’t dead.
And when the game was over, it was someone else instead.
Eleven Michigan Wolverines put on the gloves of grey,
and as the organ played The Victors, they laid Woody Hayes away.”
Corner Stone
Anya, dude, that replay for just the TD pass by SC should display why it’s so awesome. Maybe a 18 inch opening he threw that ball into from 40 yards away. To a guy running a stop and go route doing about 22MPH from a dead start.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Corner Stone: It has to be hooked up to the signal receiver that brings in whatever you subscribe to. It’s basically a relay from your cable box/satellite receiver to the intertoobz, with software for your puter that lets you mouseclick a remote control interface so you can do anything you could with the remote in your hand, just with a bit of delay, so I now have to wait for commercial breaks to bounce between games instead of just hitting ‘last’ between plays all the time going back and forth super fast. When my internet is slow the picture quality can suck, but when it’s good, oh, glorious.
Corner Stone
@Svensker: “My Svensker don’t want none unless you got buns, son.”
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@efgoldman: Sweatervest=Integrity! Just ask Rick Neuheisal.
arguingwithsignposts
@phantomist:
… and then they hired Rich Rod, and Michigan was Dayed!
arguingwithsignposts
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Sweater vests just ooze integrity. Plus, they hide tattoos and souvenir jerseys.
Svensker
@Corner Stone:
You so rite.
I love football.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink:
You just made me throw up a little.
@arguingwithsignposts:
I saw what you did there.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@efgoldman: Slow-witted and significantly less musical. That’s why dear Eng added that goofy ‘c’ to the name (Humperdinck). Between me and that prince that was too much of a wuss to handle Cary Elwes, well, he just didn’t need the associations.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
Bad News/Good News from the East Grand Rapids 3rd/4th grade Rocket Football Team
Bad news first: My not-son/not-nephew/something-infinitely-cooler/my-son’s-little-brother weighed in at 128 lbs., 3 lbs. overweight. Couldn’t play. The Little Pioneers lost 20-0.
The good news: He took it very well. He would rather have played, but he was up on the sideline actively offering encouragement to his teammates. In the post-game speech from the coach it was made pretty clear that Jordan aka Newman is a vital part of the offense and defense (he’s been playing right guard on O and right tackle on D). I was talking to him at home afterwards, and he knows that even if he doesn’t get to play this year, it’s important that he helps the team by practicing as hard as possible. Kid’s gonna be the captain of the varsity Pioneers some day, I swear.
He’ll be rooting for the Irish tonight. I can forgive him that. He’s 9. Some day he’ll realize that he looks better in maize and blue.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: You listening to the Cougar game on the radio? No tv this week, so I get BobRob and Roscoe P Coltrane (Jim Walden). Great start again this week. Nice to be on the positive side of a couple whuppins, even if the victims are truly terribad.
ABL
I just want to point out that the last time The Ohio State University lost to a team outside their division was to Oberlin College in 1920.
#OldTimeyHippies
adamchaz
@efgoldman
Can’t argue with that, but fandom isn’t logical.
However I made peace with cheating a long time ago. As long as the athlete isn’t committing a crime I’m okay with it.
Everyone else is making money off them.
Zagloba
ABL, I love you, but as a graduate of Notre Dame, I’m contractually obligated to thbbbbbbt in your general direction.
/Cheer, cheer…
Keith G
@efgoldman: Many of us alums are sick at heart and extraordinarily mad at the behavior of the Tressel regime. I wish he would go on a missionary trip to…Islamabad.
I do wonder what needs to happen in order for D 1 football not to rot away in a swamp of greed (on all parts).
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): I understand why a 9 year old would love Notre Dame. The mascot is Lucky the Leprechaun! How could that mean anything but magical deliciousness?? Once he hits his teens, you can show him a few Regis Philbin clips and explain that ol’ Rege is your typical Notre Dame fan. That should fix your problem.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: The game starts at 5, and it’s in Martin Stadium, so it should go all right. I’m cautiously optimistic the backup QB will continue to step up like he did last week. I’ll pay attention via the Interwebs. I have no idea when the next game is televised.
Corner Stone
FAKE!!
FU!
TD!!
Corner Stone
BALLS to the BALLS!
arguingwithsignposts
@ABL: lol. aside from all the games they offered to forfeit, you mean??
Corner Stone
@efgoldman: Call that one dog.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: The game is on right now, the kickoff was 2 Pacific. It’s already 28-0 Cougs with only 5 mins gone in the 2nd quarter.
Phylllis
@Corner Stone: My that was pretty, wasn’t it?
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink:
He likes all that stuff, though. He goes to ND games with his mom. He’s such a big, handsome Irish/Sicilian kid that the St. Mary’s girls are all over him.
Corner Stone
Yeah fudge nozzles! Drop it!
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: Yeps. It’s impossible to understand how hard that is.
mikefromArlington
Chicken on the grill…whiskey in hand.
That is all.
Phylllis
@Corner Stone: Although I’m beginning to think Garcia is the Tommy Glavine of QB’s. Apparently he needs a quarter (sometime 2-ish) to really warm up and hit his stride. Or he just likes to make me scream a barrage of epithets at him from my sofa.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Regis Philbin. That is all. Maybe some Lou Holtz for good measure.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Oops. Looked at the wrong time zone. FYESPN.
We had a saying when I was in school: we can always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. AKA Couging it. :)
Corner Stone
Chance for a FG try…
not sure what the hell that play call was
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: I think it’s the ole ball coach’s fault for platooning him early in his career.
Exurban Mom
Sigh. Okay people. The story behind the “The” in “The Ohio State University” is that the university switched their logo in the early 1990s from a scripty-looking OSU to a boxy The Ohio State University. Why? To avoid confusion with the other OSUs out there. Guess what? Penn State is officially The Pennsylvania State University, they just don’t use the longform name in their logo. They have “We Are Penn State” and that works out just great for them.
Cheaters? They are, sadly, in most programs. It’s endemic to college football, from both directions. Universities (and boosters) will do anything to recruit top players, and top players want the most they can get as soon as they can get it…no waiting three or four years until the pros come calling. I’m not defending it. I’m glad Ohio State got caught and is paying a proper penalty for their bad actions. But to believe that Ohio State is the only cheater out there is to be wildly naive.
And a football game in pretty much any Big Ten stadium is truly a life-altering experience. I watched Ohio State beat Michigan in 2004 at Ohio Stadium, and it was an unbelievable day. When the entire stadium sees that Ted Ginn is open, and collectively gasps and holds their breath to see if Troy Smith can a) see him and b) get him the ball…well, it was a truly amazing day. I was hugging people I never met before. I screamed my voice raw.
Those of you that don’t love football? I get it. But those of us that do? There’s nothing like it. A measly 60,000 at a Browns pro game will never match up to 105,000 raving lunatics at Ohio Stadium, or Michigan, or Penn State, or at a lot of the SEC team stadiums…it’s just another thing entirely.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: My freshman year at Wazzu was the ’97 Rose Bowl year. Hence my irritation with Michigan. One more play, mofos!
Phylllis
The words are like ashes in my mouth, but Tennessee is looking damn good.
arguingwithsignposts
@Exurban Mom:
No. Nobody else goes out of their way to emphasize the definite article, like when pro players emphasize it in their introductions. And really, how much confusion is there between Ohio State and Oklahoma State?
Thymezone
Shorter thread: Ohio State defense: “Everybody does it.”
Noted.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Exurban Mom: Avoid confusion? Do Oklahoma St and Oregon St routinely cramp their style in Columbus? Do they double as imposter Ohio States? Pistol Pete and Bucky are cooler than Brutus, but really. They’re different states, and official means nothin’. It’s the emphasis that counts. If it was in the official name and nobody felt the need to not only include but emphasize it, we’d find something else to make fun of.
Cacti
Hail to the auto workers! Hail to the circle j…
;-)
Davis X. Machina
@Exurban Mom: Spoken like someone who never saw an Amherst-Williams game.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Young’un. I started at Wazzu in 93, went to the five major bowls after that before finally getting sheepskin in 2003. Interestingly enough I didn’t leave Pullman until 2005. Now I’m less than two miles from Huskyville. The horror.
ETA: That’s three Wazzu alums on BJ. And only one still in the US.
Roger Moore
@efgoldman:
Sorry, but “The Granddaddy of Them All” moniker is already taken. The Rose Bowl invites you to pick another.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: I didn’t leave Pullman until ’08. I stuck around, got my Masters, and taught there as an instructor until I left the country. I flew out on September 15th, 2008. The Alzheimers may get me, but until then, the memory of watching the CNN at SeaTac while the stock market tanked and McCain did his ‘the economy is fundamentally sound’ thing as I moved away won’t be going anywhere. When I laid over in Auckland the footage was people moving stuff out of Lehman and stuff about AIG.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman: oh, and the only thing sadder than a big-college football smack-talk competition is a big-college football *marching band* smack-talk competition. Grambling would like a word with you.
Zagloba
When our band is older than your bowl game, let alone its advertising tagline, you’re not in much of a position to talk.
(Not to mention that UM’s band is also older than your bowl game. Also, too.)
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman:
Glad you put in that qualifier.
J.W. Hamner
Every college football thread from here to eternity needs The Maryland Uniforms.
Keith G
@arguingwithsignposts: Not that I care a whole lot, but FWIW it is the brand (if you will)chosen by the entire university. All formal groups seem to have their idiosyncratic ways of “marking their territory”.
When I moved down to what was SWAC territory back in the day, I was a bit perplexed that every school had a hand signal: Cougar paw, Bear paw, Gig ’em, Hook ’em, et al. Yet, I was not as bothered as you seem to be.
With edit
@efgoldman: Also, too.
Cacti
@Zagloba:
True, Michigan can’t really claim the Rose Bowl as its own…
Since its all-time record there is 8-12.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: HALFTIME!!
I found out through Book of Faces that one of my old college friends married a Kiwi and lives there now. It really is true that Cougs literally go everywhere. But that’s why we have an alumni association in Nairobi.
@efgoldman: My old college band director (who incidentally is still there) is an Ohio State alum. He mocks his old school early and often. Incidentally the guy who directs bands at Washington also graduated OSU. He got to dot the I. It’s actually a big deal for them.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@Exurban Mom:
Ted Ginn? Meh. Heisman Trophy winners doing their things in the Big House is where it’s at.
JPL
@J.W. Hamner: You can bid on one you know. Bidding starts at 500 for the helmet and 200 for the jersey.
arguingwithsignposts
@Keith G:
If they had stopped at “*The* OSU” or something, that might have stopped it. But as it is, it’s just bullshit, regardless of brand. It’s like the “Big 10” which isn’t 10. It’s 11, at least *this* year. As has been pointed out, it’s not like there are a lot of competing brands for the *ohio* state university. Just say “Ohio State University” and be done with it.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman: like rice?
PurpleGirl
I just made a quick trip to the grocery store. A couple of times a year, this store gets books from a remainder company. I’ve seen some interesting stuff in the bins. This evening I spied Sarah Palin’s face… it was a paperback copy of Going Rogue for $7.00. A remainder bin!
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: Why’d you have to go and broadcast that on the intertoobz?! Next week O’Keefe is gonna start trolling the halls of my old department picking on all the middle aged lefties I was buddies with, because we’re part of the secret Muslim Kenyan usurper network. I just hope lil Jimmy doesn’t find out about the secret handshake. Breitbart could get a year of free Limbaugh eggs for breakfast off of what that clip could make him when he sold it to Drudge. Marxist Siren!
Keith G
@ Keith G
Correcting a mistake: The schools I pointed out were SWC not SWAC. Sorry.
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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College football is full of grifters, just like Amnesty International. And grifters gonna grift, amirite?
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Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: I’d be amazed if O’Keefe could even find Pullman on a map. Plus you and I both know the real hardcore Marxists are eight miles to the east. This tiny little patch of blue in blood red Idaho.
Corner Stone
BS penalty but Lattimore stroking it.
Keith G
@arguingwithsignposts: I understand. Sometime a little outrage is good for the soul.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: Ha, I always thought it’d be fun to snag a passel of Moscow hippies and go terrorize the Coeur d’ Alene resort on Labor Day weekend. Alas, there was usually a football game on, and I always stayed for them, because it was one of the only ones that was pretty much guaranteed to be in great weather before that cold rain starts.
Libby's Person
Can anyone explain why many of the comments I submit don’t show up? I hit ‘submit’, and the comment shows up on the list with an edit countdown, but when I come back later the comment has disappeared without a trace. It’s frustrating. I don’t comment often, and I’ll probably quit even trying to comment if this happens again. Too bad, too – BJ is my favorite place to hang out on the intertubes.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Every home football Saturday for ten years I had that horrifically heavy woolen suit on. And I loved every second of it. Regardless of the weather, I was there blowing my guts out. I definitely had myself a good time there.
I kinda like the hippie idea. Maybe for shits and giggles on Homecoming weekend.
Zagloba
I believe the answer to that question is “FYWP”?
Geoduck
@Linkmeister:
The Huskies no longer totally suck! Woot!
Yutsano
@Geoduck: The Apple Cup might just be entertaining this year. Should be fun!
Cat Lady
@Davis X. Machina:
I happened upon one of those at Williams last fall looking for a late lunch after a trip to the Clark. It was a pretty white crowd.
“Compete harder! Force them to relinquish the spheroid!”
arguingwithsignposts
@Geoduck: Wait, you folks are talking about *Washington*? I thought you were talking about *Oregon*! All you upper west coasters look alike. ;)
Linnaeus
@arguingwithsignposts:
Them’s fightin’ words there.
Corner Stone
FUMBLAA!!
arguingwithsignposts
@Linnaeus: I know. I’m just getting into the spirit of things. :)
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
Holy . . .
The Gophers’ head coach just collapsed on the sideline.
Corner Stone
TD Beechayz!
arguingwithsignposts
@Corner Stone: I take it from the lack of Stuckinred comments that this is good news for the ‘Cocks?
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Linnaeus: As a Washingtonian, I will concede that the look of distaste we have for Southern Californians isn’t that different from the one Oregonians wear. There is that.
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: Go Cocks!
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: To be fair, I think he’s actually at the game.
And the Dawgs suck. So, there is that.
Geoduck
@arguingwithsignposts:
I’m happy if people are aware that there’s something else besides California on the West Coast.
SiubhanDuinne
@arguingwithsignposts:
It’s The Carter Center. And The Home Depot. I know those for sure, but there are probably others.
Linnaeus
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink:
This is true.
JPL
@Libby’s Person: You made it. Every so often that happens to me and I wonder if i hit enter before it has submitted.
Yutsano
@Geoduck: I get annoyed when I tell folks I’m from Washington and they immediately think DC. But I do work for the Feds.
JPL
@arguingwithsignposts: He sold his Boise State/GA tickets and that alone paid for his season tickets. Of course now he probably wants to unload his season tickets.. lol At least GA doesn’t have on those ugly uniforms.
Corner Stone
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink:
I’m of the opinion that people from CA have ruined many states, not only OR, WA and ID.
Try buying real estate anywhere around the Austin, TX area.
West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)
Go Irish!
Jeff Sherry
Hopefully the Wolverines and Irish can close the coffin lids on the Rodriguez and Weis eras.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Yutsano: Yeah how come you guys don’t root for the Redskins ;-)
Mr Stagger Lee
@Geoduck: I don’t think the Huskies suck, but somebody should tell that to sports radio jocks Brock and Salk and Softy. Will somebody from Philadelphia or Chicago please take over sports radio!
MikeJ
@Geoduck:
They barely edged Eastern Washington just a week ago. Don’t get your hopes up.
Hal
Facebook “friend” keeps posting about how 9/11 was an inside job. Christ on a cheese cracker, how stupid can you be?
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@MikeJ: @Corner Stone: Eastern is actually pretty good as FCS teams go. They won the FCS title last year. I’m pretty sure they could beat Hawaii.
RareSanity
Good college football evening BJ’ers!
I can’t remember who in the commentariat were alums of University of Oregon, but I just wanted to say that I spent a month in Eugene this week.
Just kiddin’…
I was in Eugene, but it wasn’t that bad. Really nice people.
Corner Stone
Nasty.
Yutsano
@MikeJ: Yup. Which is why I’m not judging the Cougs just quite yet. We haven’t had much in the way of a real challenge as of yet.
@Mr Stagger Lee: We gots the Seahacks…
:: thinks ::
I honestly have no good response for your assertion.
Corner Stone
You know that comes with a private island?
Really?
No. It comes with a hat.
Phylllis
@Corner Stone: I’m dyin’ here.
M-Pop
@PurpleGirl: Seven dollars?! That’s highway robbery for Going Rogue in paperback.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@M-Pop: Are the pages triple ply? Your hamster is worth it, cheapskate
arguingwithsignposts
@Corner Stone:
Hitler?
Wow, perhaps the latest Godwin evah!
JCT
Go Bears! (Cal ’84)
Meanwhile, heading north on the FDR after dinner in Chinatown and 30+ police cars with lights and full on sirens just blew by. I stopped counting them after 30…. they all got off at 42 nd. Never seen anything like it.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: 59-7, only gave up a score on a kickoff return. Gotta figure that cover team is tired, yo. We might’ve had 700 yards of offense. It’s gonna be close.
Corner Stone
Oooo. Every one seems to like it when my Cocks rush right up the middle.
Corner Stone
Whoever took the Over for this one is buying lobsta tonight.
Geoduck
@MikeJ:
They’ve already won two games this year. Even if they lose all the rest, I stand by my statement.
Linda Featheringill
Under the heading of “other stuff open thread”:
My elderly cat, Mojii, who refused to eat this morning finally, at about 8:00 showed some interest in food. I rushed around and offered something he normally likes and he ate a small amount of it and seemed to enjoy it.
I am much relieved and hopeful for the future.
You can no go back to your regularly scheduled program.
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: Have faith in the Cocks. For they shall not forsake you.
Corner Stone
That looked close.
ETA, sheeit that was freakin tight.
Phylllis
@Linda Featheringill: Yay…damn.
The Dangerman
So, Boise’s win gets cold-cocked. Good. Sorry, UG fans.
Phylllis
@Linda Featheringill: Sorry, my comment at 192 was meant for cornerstone.
Having said that, I know you’re relieved.
Corner Stone
That cute girl in the GA stands was cute. I’d comfort her.
Corner Stone
Mmmm, I love it when The Cocks come out on top.
M-Pop
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: Are you kidding? I wouldn’t wish that kind of bedding for a water rat, much less a hamster! Get your priorities straight, mate. Now bird cage liner, that’s a different story…
arguingwithsignposts
@The Dangerman: I think they might have even gotten cock-blocked.
joeyess
JeeeeeeeeeSAAAAAAAHHHHHHHSSSSSS! Get that fucking logo off of the front page. Is ever front pager a Michigan fan? Fuck!
Fucking post something new already.
Please?
RareSanity
Any UGA alums hanging out in the thread?
Since stuckinred isn’t around, I want to find out what the lunatic fringe at Georgia will think about this loss. I mean the Bulldogs looked 100% better, but they still lost.
The Dangerman
I’m heartened to see that this season’s trends for ugly ass uniforms continues tonight with UM and ND; now, Maryland set a mark that will be hard to beat, so they will have to work on it.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
Hail to the Giant Weasels, Champions of the Stench! Sorry, I just love that Wolverines are basically ferrets on steroids.
Corner Stone
@RareSanity: The got beat by The Cocks.
As predicted.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@RareSanity: Their schedule gets a lot more manageable from here. I think they could take Tennessee and Florida. That has to count for something. Maybe not enough, but, something.
Phylllis
@RareSanity: Maybe not the final nail in his coffin, but one of the last.
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: This is the beauty of being a Coug. None of this National Championship every year or bust pressure. We win life is sweet. We lose we shake it off and move on. Allez Le Cougs!
Corner Stone
@Phylllis: Told ya to have faith in The Cocks. They always come through.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Yutsano: That may be, but the pain of that 2002 Apple Cup still smarts a little. No Gesser injury and no Ed Reed return against BC = rematch with the Buckeyes. Not sure we would’ve won, but it would’ve been nice to have a chance at it.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
What an exhausting fucking game. I’m going to post before I read upthread. This may be the beginning of the end for Mark Richt but that team can hold their heads high.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Yutsano: No I was trying to be a smart ass, I feel for Washingtonians who have to deal with idiots who think Washington as DC rather than a state. Like those who think Northern California as San Francisco, thinking nothing exists from Sacramento to the Oregon border.
I’m a transplanted Buckeye in Tacoma, Go Browns, Go Seahawks.
Hoping for a Tevaris Jackson good game
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I was at the game in my new seats. The post game interview was not much different than many he has given recently. We are so close, did so much right. I don’t know how much more that will fly. The interviews on ESPN with people under the Arch, IMHO, were uncalled for. The kids on both teams busted their asses. As for the Cocks always come through. Always, come on.
MikeJake
Go Blow!
Yutsano
@Comrade Nimrod Humperdink: I have a whole list of coulda woulda shouldas, but the unexpected twists and turns are part of what make the games exciting. The real secret of football is losing a component from your team but still managing to be successful with the person who steps up. Which is why the kid who’s backing up Tuel is really having me hopeful so far this season. But it’s early yet.
@Mr Stagger Lee: I figured you were. My point still stands though.
S. cerevisiae
Too bad Oregon State doesn’t play South Carolina this year – the headline writes itself “Beavers pounded by Cocks”
Benny is going to have a long season this year.
S. cerevisiae
@Mr Stagger Lee:
Good luck with that. Signed, a Viking fan.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Believe it or not, I had really hoped that they would lose by more.
Wait, hear me out…
I really do think that Richt’s time has passed and I just don’t want to see Georgia suffer under the “Bobby Cox Syndrome” where a coach loses enough to be replaced, but, always wins just enough to where you can’t really fire him.
Of course with Bobby Cox, it was more of a post-season thing. But with college football, either you win during the regular season or you don’t go to the post-season (BCS bowls).
EDIT: Basically either win big or lose big. “Just barely” winning or losing leads to tough personel decisions.
mcd410x
Call me a skeptic — and I’m fiercely proud of it! — but I’d like to see some sort of proof of this from D.G. earlier:
Frankly, I be surprised if low information voters knew of the controversy at all. That’s sort of the definition of “low information.”
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I have no problem with that and I guess it will just have to get ugly for it to happen. I’ve lived through Jim Valek, Bob Blackman, Gary Moeller, celebrated with Mike White, and Mackovick at Illinois and you know the lineup here for the last 26 years. I love the fucking game and what I saw tonight was what I though to be a great game. Mistakes, yeah. Do I hate Spurrier as much as I hated Schembeckler, never. But damn, the pucker factor was in play till the end and that’s what I’m in it for.
RareSanity
@Mr Stagger Lee:
@S. cerevisiae:
There is something about that kid that makes me want to see him succeed. I don’t even really follow the Vikings or the Seahawks.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I always liked the way Spurrier used to poke people with a stick, “Georgia has all these high rated recruiting classes, I don’t know what happens to them once they get on campus.”
He doesn’t do that anymore though. He’s not nearly as fun as he was at Florida.
Zifnab25
GO HORNS!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Oh, he gets em in, maybe not as blatant but it’s there.
Spurrier suggested that Grantham, who came over from the NFL, maybe wasn’t ready for the zone read play that Marcus Lattimore ran over and over again on his way to 182 rushing yards against the Bulldogs.
“That little inside zone play, the NFL doesn’t run that play,” Spurrier said. “So that’s a new little scheme, I guess. Anyway, you’ll have to ask them. I’m sure they knew we were going to run it, but they certainly didn’t stop it much.”
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
fucking michigan logo on the thread, it’s halftime and all the ninny’s are chatting it up about some sci-fi shit!
Corner Stone
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): They don’t live life to the fullest, like we do.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Corner Stone: Texas BYU is lookin fun.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Ah, now that’s the Spurrier that I grew to love…
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: When Mike White came to Illinois we had the first JC transfers ever in the Big 10. Bo said we were “the Oakland Raiders of the Big 10” and they were the “Harvard of the Midwest”.
JPL
It’s time to watch some tennis. Although it’s only the semi’s, I think whoever wins this game wins the trophy.
replicnt6
As an Ann Arbor resident, can I just say: “You football fans get off my lawn!!”
(N.B. There are no football fans actually on my lawn, but they were on my roads.)
I’ve been predicting that some drunken fool is going to get hit by a car after the game and that will be the last night game at Michigan.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I think because I grew up in the south, it always seemed like the Big 10 as a whole, always had an inferiority complex. They were always trying to prove they were as good as the Big
812, Pac101214 and the SEC.Everybody knew that Michigan and Ohio State (EDIT: and Penn State, can’t believe I forgot them) could compete with anyone and every now and again Michigan State, Wisconsin or Iowa would go on a tear. But it just seemed like it was never enough.
I think college football is more fun when the traditional powers are relevant…well, except for Notre Dame, fuck those guys! They think they’re too good to be in the Big10 where they clearly belong. Hell even Miami and Florida State joined conferences.
The times they are a changing and when kids can go to South Florida and still be on national TV and SportsCenter, it’s hard to convince 18 year old alpha males to go to places like Ann Arbor or Columbus when they can go to warm weather schools in the south, southwest, or on the west coast.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Having spent 26 years here there is no question in my mind about the dominance of the SEC. The notion that nothing matter but a national championship just doesn’t cut it for me because it diminishes the game as whole. I feel fortunate to have three teams that I really care about and even got to go to the National Championship when the Hokies got throttled by FSU. I also have a buddy whose son just finished up his career at Wisc-Whitewater and won 3 D-III National Championships. The Stagg Bowl in Roanoke cost 12 bucks and the “big screen” was on a trailer in the endzone. I listen to these local meatballs talk with scorn about the Big Ten and everyone else and I just don’t give a fuck. I love the game and all that WE”RE NUMBER ONE shit means nothing to me.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Here’s a
“rarity” from the Banner Herald message board:
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I’m with you there, I mean in the final analysis, it is just a game. A damn entertaining one, but a game none the less.
Although the trash talker (and southerner) in me loves to poke people with the following:
Big 10: “You’re just too slow.”
Pac 12: “You guys play no defense.”
Big 12: “Who? You mean Texas and Oklahoma are actually in a conference? With other teams? Who knew?”
Big East: “You guys are playing football now?”
Usually the responses are, something to the affect of the SEC teams not leaving the south or cheating. To which I respond with the classic southern line of “If you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t tryin” and “We only need to leave the south to win national title games. Except when its in New Orleans.”
But that kind of stuff, when good natured, is what college football is all about. But, there are too many people that take it entirely to seriously. Lighten up Frances! (what’s the plural or Frances?) LOL
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I witcha bro, I can’t wait to read the police reports from tonight’s post-game activities. This thing of thousands of people coming to town that don’t even try to go to the games makes it pretty wild down there. I get the hell out as fast as I can.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
They definitely looked much improved, but there is still a certain “nastiness”, that is still absent.
My coach in high school always told us, “Winning is an attitude. Good teams always make plays and win because they know that they are supposed to. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy.”
I just don’t see that, “we know we’re supposed to win” attitude at Georgia. I didn’t even see it when they won those SEC titles. It always just seemed like they were happy they won, they thought they could win. But never that, “we are the best team on the field and we WILL win.”
That’s the swagger Alabama has now, Florida had for a few years, Auburn had last year, and LSU has every couple of years. I just have not sen it under Richt and with out it, they will never win a national championship.
Richt is a good coach, I just don’t think he has the temperament needed, from an SEC head coach, to win a national championship. Even when they won those SEC titles, they weren’t just destroying people because they knew their opponent shouldn’t have been on the same field with them.
mcd410x
RAYS!!
YellowJournalism
Third Coug checking in. Comrade, you and I were freshmen at the same time. I attended the Apple Cup that year in the Husky section because my grandfather was a UW grad and his alum seats were the only ones we could get. My dad, also a Coug, and I sat in the middle of a sea of purple and cold in our crimson and grey. Yeah, we were those people. But a few Husky fans actually wished us well as we were leaving the game.
My other fav memory was finding an autographed Go Cougs sign
Comrade Kevin
It’s unfortunate that it’s happening against the Dodgers, but I am enjoying watching the Giants’ playoff chances swirling down the drain.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
Un-fucking-believable!
phantomist
Wow!
ABL
HOLY SHITSNACKS.
i think i may have had a heart attack.
GO BLUE.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@ABL:
You and me both!
That’s bigger than the Dreisbach comeback against UVA. It’s just….WOW!
MikeJake
You got lucky, Michigan.
The Dangerman
One of the more exciting, butt ugly defense on both sides, games in recent memory. Can’t really call it a win, so call it a Notre Dame loss. Ugly, but exciting.
Linnaeus
Un. Fucking. Believeable. Go Blue! ! ! !
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
I believe this is called for again.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@RareSanity: This Big 10 fan has no problem saying that the SEC is a better football conference. It doesn’t reduce my enjoyment of watching the games.
The Gophers losing all the fucking time reduces my enjoyment of watching the games.
RareSanity
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):
That is when you adopt other teams to live vicariously through. As long as it’s far enough removed from “your team” there’s no negative to it.
I grew up as a Georgia fan, but I played a couple of years at Georgia Tech. So I root for both, unless they’re playing each other, then just Tech.
However, I adopted Miami at one point in time, mostly because they were the “bad boys” of college football. I love big personalities and arrogant sons-of-guns, that actually back it up. But even that has started to suck lately.
Magma
Swallow that load of FAIL you ND bastards– Go Blue!
Comrade Kevin
My alma mater dropped football after their 1992 season when the NCAA, for some reason, decided that schools shouldn’t be allowed to have Division 2 football teams, but Division 1 everything else.
The Dangerman
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):
I hear ya; right now, UCLA is up 14-7 on mighty San Jose State, with the Spartans driving to tie it up.
/when’s basketball season start?
Yutsano
@The Dangerman: The Pac-12 will be very interesting this year. But the way things are looking I bet the Beavers end up at the bottom. They seem to just be flailing right now. I’ve been wrong before though.
befuggled
As a middle-aged Michigan fan, let me tell you that I am *damn* glad that I live within two blocks of multiple hospitals.
@RareSanity: As a long-time ex-Madison resident, I root for Wisconsin every game of the year except for one (and they won’t play Michigan this year unless it’s in the Big Ten championship game). This is despite the fact that I really dislike Brett Bielema.
In the NFL, I adopted the Patriots once Tom Brady started playing (he went to Michigan and I picked him up as a late addition to my fantasy football team that year). I’ve felt a little guilty over the years.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@RareSanity:
Nope. I don’t do it. There are other teams I like to see win, but none that are anywhere near as close to the heart.
@The Dangerman:
Oh, boo hoo. You haven’t won fewer than 4 games since 1963. You’ve had ten winning seasons in the last 20, and two more at .500. The Gophers have averaged just over four wins a season in that time. We were the first team ever to finish 11th in the Big 10.
We WILL go to the Rose Bowl before I die, dammit.
The Dangerman
@Yutsano:
I should hope so!
Right now, 17-10 Bruins; if UCLA goes down to SJSU and since OSU already lost to Sac State (my mighty Cal Poly Mustangs biggest rival), well, some ugly ball being played.
Edit: 17-17 now; predictably, Spartans score on a busted D play. IIRC, I think they were a 23 point dog.
Chet
Between the nailbiter at the Big House, the Djokovic-Federer classic, and my Tigers notching yet another W (on a walkoff homer by – of all people – Brandon Inge), this was a most satisfying day of televised sports consumption for Yours Truly.
Comrade Kevin
@The Dangerman: My Santa Clara Broncos’ schedule used to look like:
Cal Poly
Sac State
UC Davis
San Francisco State
St. Mary’s
Southern Utah
Cal Lutheran
Humboldt State
UC Santa Barbara
Sonoma State
Chico State
I know that St Mary’s, Chico State, UCSB, SFSU don’t have teams any more…
Yutsano
@The Dangerman: RIDE HIGH YE MUSTANGS!! I’ve actually been to the Cal Poly campus. Kinda nice, San Luis Obispo was a bit of a rathole when I visited though. It was fun though.
I honestly have no idea how the Pac-12 is going to shake out. It will depend a lot on how USC decides to regard the rest of the league.
Comrade Kevin
I have a nice photo of the Cal Poly campus.
/ducks
The Dangerman
@Yutsano:
It’s hit and miss; for next visit, two tips:
1) Get away from the U; landlords in SLO love ripping students off massively (!!!), so student dominated housing (a goodly portion of SLO) can be a hole.
2) Head for the Vineyards; there are some good ones locally and the areas of them tend to be nice.
Oh, a bonus tip; head for Avila Beach. Water tends to be warmer there if ocean is your thing (just watch for sharks)
Comrade Kevin
@The Dangerman: I love SLO, I think it’s a great town. I have friends who used to live in Santa Maria (ugh), and when I would visit them, we’d go in to San Luis. Thankfully, for them, my friends now live in the Santa Barbara area, away from Wingnut Central.
Yutsano
@The Dangerman: I don’t have any immediate plans to return (though that could change) as my main reason for going lives in Boise now. And that will most likely be my next trip. And that area I’m a wee bit more acquainted with. But I did live there a year.
The Dangerman
@Comrade Kevin:
Yea, SM blows, even more than Lompoc (actually, I enjoy Lompoc because of the La Purisima Golf Course, which is all kinds of excellent).
One of the tricks to the Central Coast is finding the gems in the out of the way places (La Purisima is kinda like that, being out in the sticks a little bit); there is a fine steak place in Casmalia (fairly sure it is the only establishment in Casmalia; makes it easy to find). There is a great (I mean like gourmet great) Pizza place in Los Alamos (it’s only open for table service on weekends, IIRC).
Jennifer
I frickin’ HATE football. I’ll be glad after the Superbowl’s over.
Comrade Kevin
@The Dangerman: You must have been in McLintock’s, too, yes?
The Dangerman
@Comrade Kevin:
Many times (Pismo, not SLO; well, not inside SLO, McClintock’s during Farmer’s Market night in SLO is great); I prefer Jocko’s in Nipomo (not for ambiance, which is pretty much a hole, but a fine steak).
Kinda like the above comment; McClintock’s gets all the attention, but I prefer other places. For example, best fish taco on the Coast is in Avila at Olde Port; again, kinda out of the way.
jharp
@S. cerevisiae:
The Cocks penetrating offense easily exploited the gaping holes in the Beavers defense would be the next sentence.
Right?
Comrade Kevin
@The Dangerman: Sure, I understand that. I was in a really great breakfast/lunch place in either Cayucos or Cambria once, whose name I can’t remember any more. It was in what I think was a large old house, so there were several different dining rooms.
Comrade Kevin
McLintock’s has an odd place in my past, the one in Pismo Beach… the first time I was ever in it, I was in SLO because my dad had had a (later turned out to be fatal) car accident outside the SLO airport, and one of his co-workers took my mom, brother and I there for dinner.
The McLintock’s people at least used to also have a pretty decent Mexican place in SLO itself, on Monterey Street up above Downtown.
Yutsano
@Comrade Kevin:
And all the clams you can eat?
/obscure joke
suzanne
I am having an unexpectedly difficult time with the anniversary. I don’t really know why. I grew up in Long Island, but was in Tucson on 9/11. I didn’t lose anyone I knew.
Yesterday, I did a Google search looking for the Esquire story on the Falling Man photograph. I inadvertently got some images of some of the jumpers, splattered on the sidewalks. I couldn’t sleep last night.
I need tomorrow to be over. I need to be suzanne +1. Or +2.
Comrade Kevin
@Yutsano: Yes, but did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque?
The Dangerman
@Comrade Kevin:
Sounds like Brambles in Cambria. Good place. If I’m in Cambria, it’s to go to Linn’s for their pies (and if I don’t eat at Linn’s, there is a Deli across the street that I can eat and still be hungry enough to devour a Linn’s pie afterwards).
There’s a Mexican place on Monterey well North of downtown; it’s … acceptable. Not sure it’s still affiliated with McClintock’s, though. There’s a new Mexican place downtown I’ve been meaning to check out, but … haven’t yet.
Well, UCLA edged out the win; wasn’t remotely pretty, so I guess I’ll go to the boards and see the calls for Neuheisel’s head.
Comrade Kevin
@The Dangerman: Hmm, I just looked at the Brambles website, and I don’t think that’s it. It may not have been in Cambria. Looking at the map, it definitely wasn’t in Cayucos.
Looking at Google Maps for SLO, it looks like the Mexican place I’m thinking of isn’t there any more. I was staying at either the Best Western or Super 8, and it was on the other side of the street.
ETA: The McLintocks place I’m thinking of was at 1850 Monterey Street
Yutsano
@Comrade Kevin: Or I should have taken the right at La Jollah. The way he says it.
Comrade Kevin
Another thing interesting about the Central Coast is the number of times the places Monterey, and Hollister show up. You don’t see many San Jose or San Francisco streets.
The Dangerman
@Comrade Kevin:
Oh, THAT place; don’t even know the name of it these days (it’s gone through several names in the past, well, few years; it’s not the only location in town that opens and closes with far too great a frequency – there’s a place down by the Mission that is the local joke for changes in names, ownership, etc). It’s probably been a decade since I’ve thought about going there; drive by often enough I should at least know the name.
I thought I had nailed it with Brambles; Cambria’s not really the place I go for eats (unless it’s pie) so don’t have a second guess. Cayucos is a bit of a wasteland for restaurants.
You weren’t thinking Madonna Inn were you? Another place that gets the ink but locals avoid like the plague (killer cakes though).
Elizabelle
@suzanne:
Thinking of you, Suzanne.
Here’s the Esquire “Falling Man” article for others.
http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ0903-SEP_FALLINGMAN
Comrade Kevin
@The Dangerman: Nope, it definitely wasn’t the Madonna Inn, I would definitely remember that place. The place was on Highway 1, or one of its side streets. Doesn’t matter. I’m sure I’ve been in Linn’s, as well, looks very familiar.
As for the place near the mission, if I’m thinking of the same place, I have the feeling I was in one of its many incarnations, as a Mexican restaurant. Are you thinking of a place with a combination of an inside and a patio?
Larkspur
@suzanne: Suzanne, I’m so sorry. I wish I could help. I wish I could do a lot of things. I hope you get through the day quietly. Also? Avoid all but the kindest websites. Partake not of the google today, for that is a recipe for unpleasantness and heartbreak.
Comrade Kevin
Santa Barbara is Southern California, and not Central Coast, yes? That’s how I have always thought of it, anyway.
Comrade Kevin
@Comrade Kevin: I appear to use the word “place” a lot, sometimes.
Yutsano
@Comrade Kevin: Santa Barbara is kind of the crossing point between LA and Central California. There’s kind of a curve west into the Pacific along the coast about 40 miles north of LA. That’s where Santa Barbara is. My mom’s horse trainer lives down there.
suzanne
@Larkspur:
Seriously.
I am recording the ceremonies tomorrow morning on my DVR because I want to see the memorial. Early reports are mixed. But I think tomorrow is a good day to start sniffing glue.
BillinGlendaleCA(aka 10amla)
@The Dangerman:
Many Bruin fans were calling for Neuheisel’s head most of the game.
Comrade Kevin
I see my comment went into the unexplainable Balloon Juice comment black hole.
Comrade Kevin
@BillinGlendaleCA(aka 10amla): I wish I could remember who first said it (though I think it was originally about Lou Holtz), but Neuheisel is one of those guys who leaves a trail of slime everywhere he goes.
Elizabelle
@Comrade Kevin:
Speaking of trail of slime, the anti-Obama commenters are out in force on the NYTimes article on Democrats’ concern about his electability in 2012.
Would recommend leaving a comment with anything you want to say.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/us/politics/11obama.html?hp=&pagewanted=all
George W Bush had executive experience and likely a message built around job creation.
That doesn’t mean that he or Romney or Perry are better prepared to be president.
GWBush was an inadequate a man to assume the presidency the day he left it as when he was inaugurated. (Due to the Supreme Court, not the popular vote.)
A lot can change in the coming year. I have always worried the president seemed too detached from unemployment, and put too much faith in the economy turning around in time. What if it doesn’t?
Comrade Kevin
@Elizabelle: That article is goddamn terrible. I did post a comment, for all the good (none) it will do. The comments are, actually, even worse than the article. There’s a parade of numbskulls who think a primary challenge is a totally awesome idea.
Comrade Kevin
New Thread, Please.
Elizabelle
@Comrade Kevin:
Agree with both of your comments!
It’s a deplorable article, following on the heels of his well-received American Jobs Act speech, and presumably appearing on Page 1 on their Sunday, September 11 issue.
Which probably more people than usual will buy or see.
I just hope we will have the last laugh in November.
(I do understand how people get frustrated with Obama’s “let’s not call the Republicans out” persona. Even more with the “let’s ignore their depravity and praise their occasional good ideas to the heavens.” He’s been an effective president, though.)
Elizabelle
Yeah, I commented as well. Hope a lot of people will. It’s amazing how quickly and fiercely the detractors turned out.
(The other thing I’m seeing is online commenters denying FDR did anything that helped get us out of the Depression. It was the war that did it. Right.)
Elizabelle
ABL put up a new open thread.
Comrade Kevin
@Elizabelle: I asked ABL for a thread on the Twitter :-;
The Dangerman
@Comrade Kevin:
Yes, that’s the place; I don’t think I ever ate there in that iteration, but they had good Margaritas. It’s a GREAT location and great environment, but just can’t make a go of it. Been that way for many years (it’s not just the recent shitty economy)…