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Net Neutrality

by $8 blue check mistermix|  December 20, 20117:42 am| 20 Comments

This post is in: Media, Science & Technology

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Louis CK:

“O.K., so NBC is this huge company and they have all these studios and these satellites to beam stuff out,” he said, “but on the Web, both NBC.com and LouisCK.com have the same amount of bandwidth. We are equals and there are things you can do with that.”  […]

If you want to understand why we need net neutrality, Louis’ experience selling his self-produced show on this own site are the best practical example I’ve seen to-date.  And those two sentences explain why it’s so powerful, and necessary.

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  1. 1.

    Soonergrunt

    December 20, 2011 at 8:06 am

    The fact that our rantings and ravings, and those of our commenters, are available at the same bandwidth as everybody else’s is pretty cool.

  2. 2.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    December 20, 2011 at 8:29 am

    And those two sentences explain why it’s so powerful, and necessary.

    And is precisely why we won’t be allowed to have it. Our betters just want to protect us from ourselves.

  3. 3.

    Keith G

    December 20, 2011 at 8:29 am

    What has the White House lately said about this? Have they announced any non-negotiables?

  4. 4.

    Keith G

    December 20, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Answering my own question:

    Here

    Does the W H mean it?

    Why couldn’t I edit with 1:20 left in edit time.

  5. 5.

    WereBear

    December 20, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Without Net Neutrality, my humble little cat blog, and with it my hopes for the future, will fall into an abyss of Cat Chow and melamine poisoning.

  6. 6.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    December 20, 2011 at 8:50 am

    OT: And surprising nobody, Politifact has awarded lie of the year honors to the true statement “Republicans voted to end Medicare.” Die faster, media.

  7. 7.

    Scott

    December 20, 2011 at 9:01 am

    @Comrade Javamanphil: If they had any real credibility, they would announce they shutting the site down entirely out of shame.

  8. 8.

    ned

    December 20, 2011 at 9:04 am

    Completely OT, but I really, really wanted to share this link.

    Yes, yes…I understand the irony.

  9. 9.

    burnspbesq

    December 20, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Having lost the opening battle in the Hundred Year Net Neutrality War at the FCC, the Republicans have reacted in typical Republican fashion, by introducing legislation that would neuter the FCC.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70669.html

  10. 10.

    RRoss

    December 20, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Remember folks: being Anti-Piracy is not the same as being Anti-Net Neutrality

  11. 11.

    El Tiburon

    December 20, 2011 at 9:44 am

    @Comrade Javamanphil:
    Also. Too. +1. Ditto. You can say that again. I am picking up what you are throwing down.

    There is too much money and power to be harnessed in the webtubes so eventually it will happen. For our own good, of course.

  12. 12.

    pseudonymous in nc

    December 20, 2011 at 9:49 am

    on the Web, both NBC.com and LouisCK.com have the same amount of bandwidth.

    NBC.com almost certainly has access to a more robust permanent CDN, but the kind of CDN services that were bigcorp-only ten years ago are now available to regular Joes (or Louies) billed by the megabyte.

    Stand-up is an interesting case study, slightly different from albums or movies. There aren’t many “stadium” performers, touring is more sporadic and the venues are harder to come by, and if your favourite comics are based in another country, you’re unlikely to ever see them live. TV deals were usually the way to get a wider audience, but the internet makes it possible to gather an audience in different ways.

  13. 13.

    dave

    December 20, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Yeah, sorry, but Louis CK doesn’t understand net neutrality.

    Every web site does not have the same amount of bandwidth, that’s absurd. Maybe Louis is paying for the same amount of bandwidth and resources as NBC. I’m sure his hosting bills have skyrocketed with download. And that’s absolutely fine. You get what you pay for.

    The point of Net Neutrality is that everyone has ACCESS to the same services at the same rates.

    So Comcast can’t give sites or channels it owns better internet service or better speed than you can buy to compete against it, just because they own the pipe into your home.
    And it can’t block or slow down competitors content to make it’s own stuff cheaper or look better.

    That’s neutrality. No bias by the person who owns the transmission method.

  14. 14.

    D. Mason

    December 20, 2011 at 10:07 am

    And those two sentences explain why it’s so powerful, and necessary.

    And doomed to one day go down the memory hole, because mention of it won’t be allowed on the new intertrons.

  15. 15.

    Janet Strange

    December 20, 2011 at 10:16 am

    @dave:

    So Comcast can’t give sites or channels it owns better internet service or better speed than you can buy to compete against it, just because they own the pipe into your home.
    And it can’t block or slow down competitors content to make it’s own stuff cheaper or look better.

    Yes. Thank you.

    It amazes me how little interest there is in preserving net neutrality among people who rely on it every day. It’s as if they understand so little about what it is, that they can’t conceive that it could be lost, much less how different the world would be if it was.

    Our only hope against the juggernaut that is cable news propaganda is access to a diversity of sources of information and analysis, imo.

    If the Murdochs and their ilk can “give sites or channels it owns better internet service or better speed” and “block or slow down competitors content” it doesn’t just give them a commercial advantage, though it does do that, but it gives them an (even greater) propaganda advantage.

  16. 16.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik

    December 20, 2011 at 10:17 am

    @Comrade Javamanphil:

    I want to be surprised, really, but jesus…

  17. 17.

    mangrilla

    December 20, 2011 at 11:16 am

    God the rest of that article is so vomit-inducing. “What a jerk Louis CK is for taking his show online and selling it himself! What about poor HBO?! Has he forgotten all they’ve done for him?!”

  18. 18.

    lee

    December 20, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Here is how I get my wingnut friends to back net neutrality. Ask them how they would feel if AT&T (or someone else) decides that they should not have access to foxnews.com. When they say they would just change ISPs ask if they have tried to do that lately and actually get a new provider not someone just piggy backing off of the major players.

  19. 19.

    Bill Murray

    December 20, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    @Keith G: wordpress is anti-net neutrality and is just showing what it can do

  20. 20.

    Jerzy Russian

    December 20, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    @ned:

    That was funny. The sad thing is that the story could in fact be true.

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