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You are here: Home / Politics / Religion / Religious Nuts 2 / Lie Back and Think of England, You Sluts

Lie Back and Think of England, You Sluts

by John Cole|  March 15, 20121:54 pm| 107 Comments

This post is in: Religious Nuts 2, The War On Women, Outrage

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Here is the Republican Governor of PA sharing some advice with women who will be forced to have an unnecessary ultrasound before having an abortion:

Gov. Tom Corbett (R) reaffirmed this week that he supports the anti-abortion measure so long as it’s not obtrusive because women could simply close their eyes during the procedure:

    QUESTION: Making them watch…does that go too far in your mind?

    CORBETT: I’m not making anybody watch, OK. Because you just have to close your eyes. As long as it’s on the exterior and not the interior.

Critics say Corbett’s comments show he doesn’t understand how the bill would even work. While the Pennsylvania legislation has been amended to remove references to invasive transvaginal ultrasounds, the language suggests a transvaginal ultrasound could still be required if the embryo is too small. Patrick Murphy, a Democrat running for attorney general, called for Corbett to apologize for his statement. “It’s unthinkable that he would so casually dismiss this by advising women to just close their eyes,” Murphy said.

There is just something spectacularly wrong with these people.

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  1. 1.

    Maude

    March 15, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Offensive, evil git.

  2. 2.

    New Yorker

    March 15, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    I’m going to continue with the kamikaze metaphor. The Japanese pushed the fanaticism to 11 and started deliberately flying planes into aircraft carriers once they knew the war was lost. They were just trying to take as many Americans as possible down with them.

    So the right in this country knows they’ve lost, so they’ve upped the crazy to 11 and started going after sluts who won’t be submissive to men and conspiratorial bolshevik Jews as well as (of course) blacks and gays and immigrants. They’re trying to take as much of the country as possible down with them.

  3. 3.

    Fwiffo

    March 15, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    How far are we from “lay back and enjoy it”, or did we did we already pass that exit?

  4. 4.

    Chris

    March 15, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    @New Yorker:

    Yeah, kind of makes you wonder just how much damage they’ll succeed in doing. Last time half the country was this fanaticized and facing political death, they started a civil war. I’ve said many times that I don’t see it coming to that, but that doesn’t mean I can’t imagine a whole host of other bad things happening.

  5. 5.

    kdaug

    March 15, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    @New Yorker: As good an explanation as I can come up with.

    I just don’t get it.

    And yet I know people who will vote for the anti-Obama, whoever it is, no matter what.

    Sadly, I’m related to them.

  6. 6.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Nothing says Freedom like mandatory health care regulations.

    And which group is dictating medical care? Oh yeah, OBAMERCARE!

  7. 7.

    CT Voter

    March 15, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Hey, it’s the Bobby Knight school of advice: If rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it!

    Awesome. link

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    March 15, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Will insurance cover the cost of a paper bag to put over one’s head?

  9. 9.

    kdaug

    March 15, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    @Fwiffo: Ah, Clayton Williams.

    Hadn’t thought of that sonofabitch in 20 years.

    Consigned to the ashbin/dustheap in my mind, and all that, but still, that jackass was a real piece of work.

    He and Karl Rove have reserved spots on my asshole mantle.

  10. 10.

    Mark S.

    March 15, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    Limited government, how does it work?

  11. 11.

    Brachiator

    March 15, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    Here is the Republican Governor of PA sharing some advice with women who will be forced to have an unnecessary ultrasound before having an abortion

    A question. Whether invasive ultrasound or rubbing the exterior of the belly, where in the hell does the state, any state, get off on mandating that a woman submit to any touching of her body in any way, shape or form, for medically unnecesar reasons?

    Where is the respect of a woman’s liberty interest in her own freaking body?

    It’s so ironic. There are some people, especially the uptight Glen Greewald Brigaders who lose their shit over the idea that a person has to stand in line and even have a TSA employee look at them hard for thirty seconds before they get on an airplane. They shout about the vile civil liberties violations.

    But a woman having to submit to bullshit physical examinations meant to try to force her to change her mind about having an abortion?

    Well, you know.

  12. 12.

    Gretchen

    March 15, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    So shutting your eyes to the video means you can’t feel that big hard plastic probe in your vagina? Good to know.

  13. 13.

    Trinity

    March 15, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    I am sickened.

    This cannot be really happening.

  14. 14.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    March 15, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    @New Yorker:

    So the right in this country knows they’ve lost, so they’ve upped the crazy to 11

    I don’t think the Right “knows they’ve lost”. I think instead that they rightly perceive themselves as being under pressure (what with a Dem in the WH and all that) and under pressure they by instinct fall back on what they think has served them best in the past, which is to purify, purify, purify. To them, that is the path to power, to get rid of the dross. To us it looks crazy, not only in policy terms but as a form of political suicide. But that is because liberals and the right look at the Goldwater debacle in 1964 and draw completely opposite conclusions. We look back at ’64 and see the short-term electoral wipeout suffered by the GOP. But the Right looks back at 1964 as the return to conservative principles which in the longer term paid off hugely with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 and everything that has happened since. To them Goldwater 64 wasn’t a disaster, it was the foundation upon which future victories were built.

    That is why they press ahead with what looks to us like political suicide, because it worked for them before. I don’t think it will work this time because I think their success after 1964 had much more to do with the Southern Strategy than with any return to conservative ideological purity, but on the GOP side the Southern Strategy is one of those things they’d prefer not to talk about explicitly, so they tend to focus on ideology instead.

  15. 15.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 15, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    @Trinity: I know. I can’t even come up with any more outrage because this is happening at such a rapid clip. My snark has left me when it comes to all the anti-woman bullshit that is being proposed/passed across the nation.

  16. 16.

    scav

    March 15, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    @Brachiator: wimminz ain’t religionz or corporationz, dus day ain’t gotz no freedumz.

  17. 17.

    Bnut

    March 15, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    I know it’s crass of me to say, but I can’t hear “transvaginal” without thinking it’s an airline. Cum fly the friendly skies!

  18. 18.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    I don’t get any of this “They know they’ve lost, this is the last hurrah” stuff.

    If you’ve been paying attention, these people are clueless. They believe the lies they spin. They really did think everyone would love Palin, and have not an iota of an inkling how anyone could not.

    I know it’s hard to accept, but accept you must, in order to understand: They believe their own bullshit.

  19. 19.

    John Weiss

    March 15, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    @kdaug: Good ol’ Claty. Ann Richards won that election in part ’cause of that remark.

  20. 20.

    Satanicpanic

    March 15, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    @Trinity: Yeah, this is sick, even for the right. The state has no business doing this whatsoever. The mask has really come off these creeps.

  21. 21.

    pacem appellant

    March 15, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    How is pouring gasoline on the (until now) least controversial cultural battle helping Republicans again? Since I live on one of the those coasts where there aren’t any real Americans, it’s hard to know.

  22. 22.

    jl

    March 15, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Ask this Corbett, or maybe better, his constituents that he wants to dupe, whether all the cavernosometries (which involves shooting crud up your dick, sometimes with needles) and p * N * le / anal nerve tests, and other procedures which we shall require to document V ** g r * is being prescribed responsibly, will be OK if you just close your eyes.

    I wonder if they will be OK with it.

    Just lie back and relax while they shoot crud into your dickus, so we can determine what your complaint really is, and if V ** g r * is appropriate.

    These guys are all he-men who are strong enough to look after the weaker sex. I am sure it will be no problem.

  23. 23.

    jibeaux

    March 15, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    I think it sounds really bad because of the echoes of “lie back and enjoy it”, but his point was more that the statute doesn’t or can’t require the woman to watch…which to me means that the outrage buries the lede a bit. Admitting that the woman doesn’t have to view the ultrasound means that you can’t defend this on those paternalistic “we’re just making sure she’s fully informed” yadda yadda defenses. So why is the ultrasound necessary? If it’s to estimate fetal age, then say that instead of saying “close your eyes”, for Pete’s sakes.

  24. 24.

    dmsilev

    March 15, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Also, too, the people who got the vapors because Gary Trudeau had the nerve to depict this atrocity without cloaking it in mealy-mouthed bullshit (the punchline for today’s strip is “By the authority vested in me by the GOP base, I thee rape”) should go screw themselves.

  25. 25.

    Kordo

    March 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    @Fwiffo: Yah, that one’s in the rear-view mirror, I’m afraid. We’re rapidly coming up on “The Handmaid’s Tale-as-blueprint-for-society” territory…

  26. 26.

    Tonal Crow

    March 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    How long will it be before the Republican War on Women demands that women be strapped onto a gurney with their heads immobilized and their eyes taped open, so that they’re forced to view their own transvaginal violation? And how long after that before Republicans force them to listen to anti-choice sermons at 120 decibels? And to register as “sex offenders” for daring to request an abortion? And for videos to be made and posted on the internet for Republicans’ private edification?

  27. 27.

    Stacy

    March 15, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Since we’re already allowing the TSA to molest people, couldn’t we save a wholelota taxpayer money by having them perform the ultrasounds on each and every woman/girl who dares to fly with her uterus as a carry-on?

  28. 28.

    Cermet

    March 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Aren’t these assholes attempting to practice medicine without a license? Requiring any purely medical procedure to be used on a human is acting as an MD, no? Now is this legal through the courts since these insane bozzo’s are attempting to require medical procedures on humans via legislation?

  29. 29.

    jibeaux

    March 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    And no flaming me because it was undoubtedly idiotic, it’s just that what drives me crazy about it is not the stupid things they say about it, it’s that they have no clue WHY they’re writing laws requiring what seem to be medically unnecessary ultrasounds. They just can’t, or won’t, justify these measures.

  30. 30.

    donnah

    March 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Fuck ’em.

    I had this procedure performed when I was pregnant with my third child and it’s invasive and uncomfortable. I tolerated it because it was necessary to determine the health of my baby. There is no way to make it less invasive by NOT WATCHING.

    I honestly believe that the men making up these absurd laws need to be probed. For a long period of time.

  31. 31.

    Chris

    March 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    I don’t think it will work this time because I think their success after 1964 had much more to do with the Southern Strategy than with any return to conservative ideological purity

    This.

    And I’ll go even farther and point out that 1964 was the last time any Republican actually ran on ideological purity – e.g. honestly and openly stating that he wanted to abolish the New Deal and all that. Since then they’ve been elected by demagogueing the shit out of racial and cultural issues and studiously avoiding any talk of their ideology (see also the Rust Belt states whose governors ran against Obummer and then declared they had a mandate to destroy unions).

  32. 32.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 15, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    @jibeaux: The whole thing makes no sense. Yes, they took out the mandatory transvaginal part, but in the link cited, if the fetus is too small to be detected with the belly sonogram, they can do the transvaginal probe, anyway.

    Bottom line is, they are doing this to shame a woman who is seeking an abortion.

    ETA: I agree with your second comment as well. They are idiots.

  33. 33.

    Linnaeus

    March 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    @redshirt:

    I’m with you on this. I’m not comforted by the demographic argument re Republican decline.

  34. 34.

    negbert

    March 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Governor Corbett signed PA’s Voter ID Law today also, because both these bills were so very important for our economic recovery.

  35. 35.

    kdaug

    March 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    @Bnut: See, if I were a crazy billionaire…

  36. 36.

    Midnight Marauder

    March 15, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    @redshirt:

    I don’t get any of this “They know they’ve lost, this is the last hurrah” stuff.
    __
    If you’ve been paying attention, these people are clueless. They believe the lies they spin. They really did think everyone would love Palin, and have not an iota of an inkling how anyone could not.
    __
    I know it’s hard to accept, but accept you must, in order to understand: They believe their own bullshit.

    I don’t think there’s much dispute that the base believes all of the bullshit. I would say that references to “they know this is the end” are directed more at the Republican Establishment (Big Money Boys and so forth). People like Jeb Bush, Mitch Daniels and John Boehner, to be more specific.

  37. 37.

    Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor

    March 15, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    I don’t think ‘they’ see themselves as lost, or losing. From ‘their’ point of view, the libs are just getting uppity agin’ and need to be put in their place once more (as Zandar pointed out a few threads downbelow).

    Humans are pack animals, so being a blatant arsehole will get you noticed among the low-info voters. IMO this helps to explain the recent poll surge for Romney against Obama (or, for that matter, for Scott Brown vs. Elizabeth Warren).

    Maybe we should be glad this zeitgeist is happening in March and not October.

  38. 38.

    Ben Cisco

    March 15, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Innate inability to put himself in another’s, uh, stirrups. Hmmm. Somebody should look into that.

  39. 39.

    amk

    March 15, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    @dmsilev: Trudeau has been fantastic this week. Took a sledgehammer to these nutters’ heads.

  40. 40.

    jl

    March 15, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    I disagree with some commenters above.

    IMHO, they know very well why they are doing this, and they understand the psychology of how it works, if not the clinical details.

    They are doing it to rev up the base, to try to find a wedge issue for the election, and intimidate people seeking medical care. They cannot be honest about it, for obvious reasons, and that is why their statements make no sense to any reasonable and informed person, and I hope those people comprise something close to 73 percent of the population.

  41. 41.

    amk

    March 15, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    @Midnight Marauder: yup, the red meat base is thriving, having finally come out of the closet, thanks to that black guy in that white house.

  42. 42.

    opium4themasses

    March 15, 2012 at 2:30 pm


    They have truly decided to win by pushing everyone out ofthe party.

  43. 43.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    @Midnight Marauder: I get your point, but these same Big Money boys backed Palin for VP. They must have thought she (and McCain) could have won or otherwise they were intentionally tanking the election.

    And the State legislators making these crazed laws all of a sudden are the base. They’re insane and stupid and believe every lie that spins around their head, even if it contradicts the lies from yesterday.

  44. 44.

    kdaug

    March 15, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    @Stacy:

    Since we’re already allowing the TSA to molest people, couldn’t we save a wholelota taxpayer money by having them perform the ultrasounds on each and every woman/girl who dares to fly with her uterus as a carry-on?

    Good point. Shouldn’t they be paying for two tickets, too?

  45. 45.

    Mike

    March 15, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Patrick Murphy, a Democrat running for attorney general, called for Corbett to apologize for his statement.
    No. He should call for him to clarify his statement in the most public forum available. Make sure everyone in the state understands his position.
    Seriously, I’m sick of Democrats asking Republicans to apologize. If they were sorry, they wouldn’t have first said it, then turned it into a bill and made it the law of the land.

  46. 46.

    muddy

    March 15, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Can you also close your eyes when they present you with the bill?

  47. 47.

    Governor Corebutt

    March 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Look, if you sluts don’t want to close your eyes, occupy yourselves completing the waiver forms allowing Rush Limbaugh to record your procedure and view it later, OK? What the fuck do you want from us? Jesus!

  48. 48.

    feebog

    March 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    @That Left Turn in ABQ:

    A great analysis. I do think however there is a certain sense of desperation in all this. They know they do not have a national candidate to challenge OBama (see, Ericson, Erick). They know that if Obama wins election that “Obamacare: is going to go into full effect, and that by 2016 the public is going to realize what a really good bill that was. They fear that Obama will push for a public option as an add on, further helping people in real need.

    And mostly I think, they fear that eight years of Obama will make many people realize that color or race does not matter as much as competence and vision. This is why I think the recall in Wisconson is so very important. The pushback in Ohio against worker’s rights was great, but until one of these asshats actually suffers personl consequences, they are not going to back off. In fact they may not back off even then, but a lot of steam is going to be let out of the ballon.

  49. 49.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    March 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    @pacem appellant:

    How is pouring gasoline on the (until now) least controversial cultural battle helping Republicans again? Since I live on one of the those coasts where there aren’t any real Americans, it’s hard to know.

    I live in the second reddest county in Misery surrounded by nothing but (un)Real ‘Murkins. The answer is easy: it’s to whip the base into a frenzy. Because the base ain’t all that frenzied this year.

    To us, this is beyond insane. To my single issue ghetto neighbors (they’re all Pro Birthers), this is all your standard dog whistling to their “moral” values.

    Of course they’re all hypocrites. I live in a very Catholic area of the state and where are all the big families? Oh yeah, birth controlled into not ever being.

    Where was I?

  50. 50.

    fasteddie9318

    March 15, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    @donnah:

    I honestly believe that the men making up these absurd laws need to be probed. For a long period of time.

    Drop them off in Griffith Park late at night and Kirk Cameron will see what he can do. For Jesus.

  51. 51.

    dmbeaster

    March 15, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    @New Yorker: They have upped the crazy to 11 cause that is how they roll – not because they are doing so cause they feel they have lost.

    To be frank, I admire the tenacious adherence to principle, even if it is politically crazy. They hate abortion and are willing to do anything to undermine it, which is part of a long term strategy to so marginalize it as hopefully to change attitudes in support of it.

    The basic dilemma is ideology vs. practicality. Diluting ideology for practical reasons can also make you weaker – clearly the Democrats have that version of “crazy” when it comes to political strategy.

    I would say that the “dial the crazy to 11” syndrome flows from the core of how they roll, which is a motivation of hate for those different. To reflect back on 2008 when the crazy was also strong as personified in Palin, what was most notable about the tide she pulled with her was the raw hate on display at her rallies. That is what works with that crowd.

  52. 52.

    jl

    March 15, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @feebog:

    ” And mostly I think, they fear that eight years of Obama will make many people realize that color or race does not matter as much as competence and vision. ”

    Good point I had not thought of before. Ties together the maniacal insane attacks on Clinton and the more subtle dogwhistles against Obama. A president who does anything to help the country extract itself from its racist history and current prejudiced quagmire, is a danger to their existence. That would be more dangerous than four or eight years of an executive they do not like, but would damage their nearly forty year franchise on racial and ethnic bigotry as a wedge issue.

    Edit: and some very not subtle at all race baiting against Obama. Thing is, I think the majority of whites in America have come far enough to at least recoil from the idea of prejudice (even if various forms of prejudice still exist as long as whites can avoid acknowledgment of them). So most of the obvious race baiting does not end up well for the perpetrators when they can be identified.

  53. 53.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 15, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @Mike: I agree with this, too. I don’t want apologies from these asshats because they mean what they say. I want them to have to defend their remarks ad nauseam until the next election. OWN that shit, jackholes.

  54. 54.

    ABL 2.0

    March 15, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    “Lie Back and Think of England”

    dammit, cole! that’s the joke i was gonna use. grumble grumble.

  55. 55.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 15, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    In a fascist state the womb is the engine of war and industry

    Fascists desire the control of human reproduction to be placed anywhere other than the hands of women who will inevitably choose the higher utility of fewer children in a society where children are net expenditures rather than income

    Don’t think that they don’t think about this business; Fox News cannot get enough of stories about Russia’s birthrate and your average “small-government” libertarian-conservative is all about some reaching up a woman’s hoo ha to make policy

  56. 56.

    jl

    March 15, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: I also agree with that. I am a guy, so probably not in position to ask for an apology for the specific outrages.

    But, in general, I desire no apologies from these people. Make them confront the facts, and force them to justify their inexcusable actions over and over again, right up to their next election.

    Then, if all goes well, wish them a happy and obscure retirement.

    Edit: didn’t notice it was you who I was replying to. Hi Ms. AsiangrrrlMN, how are you? Did not see you here for awhile, but now u iz back!

  57. 57.

    rikyrah

    March 15, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    GOP WAR ON WOMEN!!!

  58. 58.

    bemused

    March 15, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    @kdaug:

    They don’t think they will be touched at all by any of the insane shitstorm legislations. Life will be beeyootifull for them, too bad if it sucks for everyone else. They will be oblivious to or enjoy watching the suffering of others until it catches up with them and they will be impacted sooner or later unless they in the filthy rich crowd. They just can’t imagine these agendas backfiring on them because they are on the “right” side.

  59. 59.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    March 15, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    so, how about if you give teh womins practice epidurals, so they can’t feel anything. plus if you get the sluts high for the transvaginal ultrasound, and let them know they will get more drugs when they give birth, they’ll love it right?

    i mean closing your eyes, not feeling it, that is almost the same thing as it not happening at all, right?

  60. 60.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 15, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    When men like this say things like this I want to bash their teeth in with a brick

    They would throw one of the greatest advances in human civilization into the fire so they can send more soldiers to die for Christ

    The sole intelligent self-interested policy for the United States to pursue right now is to provide birth control and abortion services to as many women as possible in as many places as possible around the world

  61. 61.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    March 15, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    @kdaug:

    what used to be a walk of shame is now a drive home in the carpool lane. there is your progress, sluts.

  62. 62.

    Shari

    March 15, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Earplugs should be offered so the woman can’t hear anything either

  63. 63.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 15, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    On the whole, religion is goddamned terrible

  64. 64.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 15, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    It is sort of like how a American-German push for union-led subsidized global labor mobility is the only chance for either country to sustain its way of life but we would rather pursue the impossibility of competing with whichever population can be death-pimped the hardest by their local thugs

    In this case the policymakers are weighing the murder of American women against a Santorum-family-like mass of docile warbots that would demolish our standard of living simply by existing. But is it cool enough to kill their wives and daughters over, they wonder? It just might be

    Realize that personally, they are made up of two types: successful date-rapists like your average Republican Congressman or eternal sexual rejects who fantasize about rape like Rush Limbaugh; hurting women is either jolly good everyday fun or their absolute desperate want/need from puberty

  65. 65.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 15, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Unsurprisingly, a recent study showed that women who report negative preconceptions about other women are more likely to respond positively to demeaning or sexist behavior on the part of male suitors

    It is a really kinky crew they have

  66. 66.

    Poopyman

    March 15, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    @Mike:

    Seriously, I’m sick of Democrats asking Republicans to apologize. If they were sorry, they wouldn’t have first said it, then turned it into a bill and made it the law of the land.

    Shout it from the rooftops, brother!

  67. 67.

    Midnight Marauder

    March 15, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    @redshirt:

    I get your point, but these same Big Money boys backed Palin for VP. They must have thought she (and McCain) could have won or otherwise they were intentionally tanking the election.

    They chose Palin because they believed selecting her as VP gave them the best chance to win, just like they think banging the drum on “SLUTS WANT US TO PAY FOR BIRTH CONTROL” and “LOOK AT THAT UPPITY NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE” are winning strategies this time. It doesn’t mean they are smart strategy or even strategies likely to produce a favorable outcome. It reflects the fact that their base is deranged and untethered from reality, and as such, the Establishment can’t corral them with the typical bullshit they used in the busy. They can’t keep the ugly under the radar anymore.

    And the State legislators making these crazed laws all of a sudden are the base. They’re insane and stupid and believe every lie that spins around their head, even if it contradicts the lies from yesterday.

    Agreed But I would expound on that by saying that is exactly what happens when people decide to sit out a midterm election and let a bunch of old, crazy bigots run roughshod over the electoral process.

  68. 68.

    AxelFoley

    March 15, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    @Tonal Crow:

    How long will it be before the Republican War on Women demands that women be strapped onto a gurney with their heads immobilized and their eyes taped open, so that they’re forced to view their own transvaginal violation? And how long after that before Republicans force them to listen to anti-choice sermons at 120 decibels? And to register as “sex offenders” for daring to request an abortion? And for videos to be made and posted on the internet for Republicans’ private edification?

    A Clockwork Pink?

  69. 69.

    Seanly

    March 15, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    All that and the presence of a black man in the White House have driven them stark raving mad.

    Another item though is that the turn against contraception (and by extension women) is not surprising. Weren’t there conservatives in the early 2000’s who talked openly about not just repealing Roe v. Wade, but also the need to overturn Griswold v. CT?

    I think the attack on women is collateral damage, not the main goal. The real goal is control of everyone’s sex life. That it affects overwhelmingly women is secondary.

  70. 70.

    Emma

    March 15, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    @redshirt: Considering your handle, you’ll go after the first six minutes of the show, so we need not consider you.

    EDIT: if it was snark, my apologies. My meter broke about the time we were being told the Newt was a serious candidate for president.

  71. 71.

    Seanly

    March 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    @dmbeaster:
    The raw hate in 2008 ended up hurting them. Moderates or people with half a brain will get uncomfortable with it & begin to drift away. Hate is wasted energy – not to go all Yoda, but it really drains something out of oneself. There are plenty of folks who will fill arenas screaming racist & sexist tropes while Santorum/Palin/Newt smile & nod, but that number is no longer enough to win the presidency.

    The bad thing is that many states are going to be saddled with restrictive, hateful laws & state constitutional amendments for a long time after the GOP implodes.

  72. 72.

    Catsy

    March 15, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    @redshirt:

    I don’t get any of this “They know they’ve lost, this is the last hurrah” stuff.
    __
    If you’ve been paying attention, these people are clueless. They believe the lies they spin. They really did think everyone would love Palin, and have not an iota of an inkling how anyone could not.
    __
    I know it’s hard to accept, but accept you must, in order to understand: They believe their own bullshit

    However lockstep they may appear, Republicans are not a homogeneous group; these are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

    I think there are plenty of Republicans who can see the writing on the wall and know they are fucked for all sorts of reasons, not the least of which being the clown car demolition derby of the GOP primaries and the sucktastic lunatics that are their leading candidates.

    These are the ones who might wear the 27%er mask in public but who at least live in the real world and have some political skill. They are trying to ram through as much of their agenda as they can while they still have a majority, because they know they’re going to get destroyed up and down the ticket this year.

    Then you have the kool-aid drinkers. They really do believe their own bulshytt. And because they do, they are perfectly happy to go along with the idea of ramming through an extreme right-wing agenda, because they really believe a silent majority of Americans agree with them.

    It’s a classic positive feedback loop, with both enabling the most self-destructive urges of the other.

  73. 73.

    Bubblegum Tate

    March 15, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    @Chris:

    The wingnuts I know are pretty much itching for a Civil War. They openly agitate for it, but always under that lamewad cover of, “It’ll be Teh Left’s fault–Teh Left will start it, but we’ll finish it!”

  74. 74.

    catclub

    March 15, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @Chris: “Last time half the country was this fanaticized and facing political death, they started a civil war.”
    Actually, they were only facing poltical death after doing something extremely stupid, not deciding on a single candidate to oppose Lincoln. With the result that Lincoln was elected.

    I also think they were not facing political death, but feared that they were. (Where have I seen that before? Kenyofascist will destroy our country if re-elected.) In a counter-factual world where there is no secession, slavery lasts what, another 60-70 years instead of 2.

  75. 75.

    Catsy

    March 15, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    @catclub: Harry Turtledove wrote a series of alternate-history books that start with the premise that the South won their independence and cover the time period from the start of the First World War through the end of the Second.

    The descriptions of the horrors of both World Wars fought with the North and South on opposite sides have a disturbingly authentic ring.

  76. 76.

    Legalize

    March 15, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    @Tonal Crow:
    August 2012?

  77. 77.

    Davis X. Machina

    March 15, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Moderates or people with half a brain will get uncomfortable with it & begin to drift away.

    Not drift away from the GOP and towards the Democrats — they simply won’t vote. They’ll be sickened by the whole spectacle, blame both sides — and the media will help them — that’s what you need to make the 50%+1 strategy go.

    That plus a few Obama-sold-us-outliers, and the GOP could just pull it off.

  78. 78.

    Brachiator

    March 15, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    @Midnight Marauder:

    It reflects the fact that their base is deranged and untethered from reality, and as such, the Establishment can’t corral them with the typical bullshit they used in the busy. They can’t keep the ugly under the radar anymore.

    The GOP Establshment encouraged and nurtured every bit of vile craziness that is now engulfing their party.

    They purged moderates. They embraced Palin. They happily use Fox News as their house propaganda organ. They applauded the Tea Party.

    The ugly little truth is that the GOP Establishment are just as angry and crazy as their feral base.

  79. 79.

    Chris

    March 15, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    @Bubblegum Tate:

    Yeah, I know they talk about it endlessly. I just don’t see them having the stones to actually put their lives on the line or disrupt their nice orderly existence with a war. Maybe I’m wrong.

    @catclub:

    Actually, they were only facing poltical death after doing something extremely stupid, not deciding on a single candidate to oppose Lincoln. With the result that Lincoln was elected.

    That, I didn’t know. Fantastic: almost sounds like the current electoral climate, doesn’t it?

    @Catsy:

    I think I’ve heard of those. The South ends up joining the Allies and the North joining the Central Powers – then the Central Powers actually win, and it’s France and Britain (along with the South) that go on to develop fascist movements during the Depression.

    Gingrich also toyed with alternate history, with a lot less success, I’m told.

  80. 80.

    Barbara

    March 15, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    If I weren’t so nice I would almost think that these guys actually like thinking about women just lying there kind of against their will while someone sticks a big fat wand up their vagina. Like, it makes them shiver with excitement to think about making a woman take it — in other words, they are getting off on a rape fantasy.

  81. 81.

    bemused

    March 15, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @Barbara:

    Oh, I gotta a hunch you’re not alone in that suspicion….

  82. 82.

    Hack Wilson

    March 15, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    God put women on earth to have kids. The more we can do to keep abortions illeggal, then the better off we’ll all be. Sorry this isn’t a liberal opinion that Obama will clap for. No, this is an opinion that is simply correct, true and based on Biblical reasoning. Reasoning is a word libs should learn.

  83. 83.

    shortstop

    March 15, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @Emma: It was snark.

  84. 84.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 15, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    I wish I could say it was surprising. I cannot.

  85. 85.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    @Emma: It’s never not snark, Emma. I know of no other way these days to handle the insanity.

  86. 86.

    g

    March 15, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    If a patient could negate the purpose of the law by closing her eyes, what is the point of even having the law? Not to say it’s not incredibly intrusive, intimidating, wasteful and costly, but – if the whole point of the law is to somehow “persuade” women to make decisions in a certain way, and they acknowledge that it really won’t be effective at that – why do it?

    Unless, of course, the point of the law is to be instrusive, intimidating, wasteful and costly.

  87. 87.

    g

    March 15, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    How long will it be before the Republican War on Women demands that women be strapped onto a gurney with their heads immobilized and their eyes taped open,

    clockwork Orange.

  88. 88.

    kdaug

    March 15, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    @Catsy:

    Then you have the kool-aid drinkers. They really do believe their own bulshytt.

    There’s the rub.

  89. 89.

    les

    March 15, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    @g:

    Not to say it’s not incredibly intrusive, intimidating, wasteful and costly, but – if the whole point of the law is to somehow “persuade” women to make decisions in a certain way, and they acknowledge that it really won’t be effective at that – why do it?

    Making abortion “incredibly intrusive, intimidating, wasteful and costly” is entirely the point. They know they’re not “persuading” anyone about anything. They’re not interested in persuasion, they’re interested in imposing their beliefs.

  90. 90.

    Tonal Crow

    March 15, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    @g: With Republicans it’s all “my Precious!” all the time: it’s all about acquiring power, then using it to exploit and dominate everyone they hate (which is pretty much everyone who isn’t them).

  91. 91.

    Catsy

    March 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    @Chris: Yup, and the Confederacy plays the part of Weimar -> Nazi Germany, suffering under the terms of the treaty that ended WWI and descending into fascism led by a charismatic veteran who appeals to the population’s hatred of or resentment against Yankees, blacks, and the aristocracy.

    As you might guess, the Holocaust is (in a chillingly plausible way) perpetrated against the Southern black population.

  92. 92.

    Barry

    March 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @Mark S.: “Limited government, how does it work?”

    It’s limited to what the GOP wants.

  93. 93.

    Barry

    March 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    @Gretchen: “So shutting your eyes to the video means you can’t feel that big hard plastic probe in your vagina? Good to know.”

    It probably also works if you’re hit by a machete, bullets, shrapnel, etc.

  94. 94.

    Cat Lady

    March 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    @Hack Wilson:

    LOLWUT?

  95. 95.

    Catsy

    March 15, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    @Cat Lady: Snark or stupidity–it’s getting so hard to tell.

  96. 96.

    Tony J

    March 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @Catsy:

    Yeah, and Harry lost a – lot – of love in the Wingnospheric audience of AH fans for portrayal of the South in that series. It’s also why I can’t help but laugh when I hear Teabaggers howling “Freedom!” like they’re at a Featherston rally.

  97. 97.

    pk

    March 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Apparently for republicans the path to a small government runs through a woman’s vagina.

  98. 98.

    Argive

    March 15, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Damnit, my fellow Pennsylvania residents. Yeah, we just HAD to go and elect Corbett governor. Oh, sure, he seemed normal when he was state AG and you didn’t hear about him much outside of his doing radio commercials urging people not to buy guns for criminals (well, maybe not outside of Philly).

    But then we elected him and look what happened. He dialed the crazy up to 11 and there’s no stopping it. Was Rendell really that bad? I know that Fast Eddie has a reputation that puts Clinton’s to shame when it comes to women, but at least he didn’t try to pass laws like this one. Or let natural gas companies turn parts of PA into moonscapes in exchange for campaign contributions. Or slash funding to public universities. And yet Corbett will probably win reelection, because hey, we reelected Tom Ridge and Rick Santorum.

  99. 99.

    Hack Wilson

    March 15, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @pk: Like you’d know what a woman’s vagina looks like. Go watch Glee. HA

  100. 100.

    Catsy

    March 15, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @Tony J: Right there with you. I ought to start keeping a list of all the parallels between the Tea Party and the Freedom Party.

    Also, I can’t be the only person who really *liked* Featherston throughout the WWI arc and was deeply disturbed by that after what he became.

  101. 101.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    @jl: Hi, jl! I’ve tried to say hey to you in other threads, but as in a real marriage, you just ignore me. Kid, I kid! I’m like the tides – no one knows how I work, least of all, me!

  102. 102.

    SuzyQ

    March 15, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    I’d like to “close his eyes” with that rusty pitchfork that runs thru here! I can’t take anymore of this foolishness!!. Evry day its something new with these cretins. I really want to scream.

    Can’t this all be gone til November?

  103. 103.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    March 15, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    @les:

    Yep, the procedure is sold as “educational”, but Gubbinor NoNuts here laid bare what it’s really intended to be — say it with me, now — Punitive.

  104. 104.

    pk

    March 15, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    @Hack Wilson:
    I know more about vaginas than you.I hope both you and Gov Corbett get a trans vaginal ultrasound shoved up your behinds till it comes out of your mouths. And shove your trashy blog as well. Try get some traffic the honest way you piece of garbage.

  105. 105.

    scav

    March 15, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    And where were all these medial educational and information stalwarts when it was all about getting people information about End of Life care? mmm? Not all medical information is equal either.

  106. 106.

    J R in WVa

    March 15, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    I think I’ll send a card to Sen Grassley thanking him for hating on 51% of the nation – women – and making it possible for the Democrat (sic) Party top retake control of the congress. Although enough people are crazy that it’s difficult to tell if that will take place.

    Any woman that votes for any Republican anywhere deserves the trans-innertubes ultraviolet inspection before getting a voter registration! Or am I confused on the technical health expert lingo?

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