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You are here: Home / Politics / Religion / I’m Curious About This Guy’s Views on Contraceptives

I’m Curious About This Guy’s Views on Contraceptives

by John Cole|  March 21, 20122:56 pm| 109 Comments

This post is in: Religion, The War On Women

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Another day, another pervert:

A Roman Catholic priest in Montana has been charged with felony sexual abuse of children after sexual images of naked children were found on his Nintendo DS gaming console and personal computer.

The Missoulian reported that a woman called authorities last October to report that nude images of young boys were found on a Nintendo DS game console she purchased from Rudolph “Rudy” Carl Bullman, 67, who serves as a priest at Risen Christ Parish in Kalispell.

The priest admitted to a Flathead County Sheriff’s Office detective that he had used the gaming console to view gay pornography, but insisted all the subjects were at least 18 years old.

A search of Bullman’s personal computer uncovered “images of young males between the ages of 12 and 18, either engaged in sexual activity or displaying their genitals,” according to the Missoulian.

“Well those aren’t adults,” Bullman allegedly agreed upon seeing the images.

A forensic analysis of his computer found an additional 23 images of child pornography in his Internet cache and 23 deleted JPG images.

I love how he was caught- selling his Nintendo with the naked pictures still on it. A guy around where I live was caught in pretty much the same way when he took his computer in for maintenance and the tech guys booted it up and found a shitload of kiddie porn and called the FBI.

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  1. 1.

    Bludger

    March 21, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    His views? I’m sure his views go something like:
    FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    OMGFREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMM

  2. 2.

    Dan

    March 21, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Ha ha, and these jerks have really been asking for it but I always try to remind myself that sexual abusers generally were victims once themselves NOT THAT THAT EXCUSES THEM FROM THEIR BEHAVIOR.

  3. 3.

    chopper

    March 21, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    at this point who would buy a used computer off a fucking priest?

  4. 4.

    scav

    March 21, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    The Risen Christ Parish detail is only icing.

  5. 5.

    beltane

    March 21, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Why would anyone be offended by this? It’s not like the priest was getting off on those evil women with their lady-parts and contraception.

  6. 6.

    MosesZD

    March 21, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Good title to the post. That was a work of art.

  7. 7.

    Mike Goetz

    March 21, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Question: are there any non-gay-child-porn priests?

    Bueller?

  8. 8.

    Chyron HR

    March 21, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    sexual images of naked children were found on his Nintendo DS gaming console

    Yeah, but to be fair it was just the latest Square-Enix game.

  9. 9.

    Comrade Dread

    March 21, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    @chopper: If I did, I’d make sure I had a third party on hand to testify that I just acquired it, then I’d examine the contents of the drives with the same third party present, then (assuming I found nothing) I would wipe the drives repeatedly just to ensure that I hadn’t missed anything.

    Then I’d take off and nuke the PC from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

  10. 10.

    Soonergrunt

    March 21, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    This didn’t take long.

    Reference from this morning.

  11. 11.

    Schlemizel

    March 21, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    @chopper:
    Someone interested in free porn?

  12. 12.

    Schlemizel

    March 21, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    @Mike Goetz:
    To be fair not all the victims of this global pedophile ring have been boys. There have been a fair share of girls also but they don’t get as much attention.

  13. 13.

    Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity

    March 21, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Question: are there any non-gay-child-porn priests?

    @Mike Goetz: Turns out that most of the payouts by the Church have been to women and girls who were raped/fondled/seduced/drugged/godknowswhat by priests.

    The boyfuckers just get the eyeballs, so the media runs with that.

  14. 14.

    scav

    March 21, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    @Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity: they must give the wimminz the payout money so they can call them all hos before congress.

  15. 15.

    Jennifer

    March 21, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    All I can say is, all this news about priests just shatters all the illusions I had from reading The Thornbirds 30 years ago.

    I mean, a priest tortured by and trying to overcome his sexual desires? Such a completely unbelievable premise.

  16. 16.

    El Cid

    March 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    It’d be a good way to catch a bunch more priestverts, just put up local ads to buy used computers & video games for cheap, and then just turn them over to cops en masse.

  17. 17.

    MikeBoyScout

    March 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Surely the leadership of the Roman Catholic church in the USA has something to say about this, no?

    Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

  18. 18.

    Kristin

    March 21, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    The creepy teacher in LA got caught because he had pictures developed at a store and an employee reported him (film processors are mandatory reporters in CA).

  19. 19.

    redshirt

    March 21, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Why does a Priest have a Nintendo DS? How odd!

  20. 20.

    cathyx

    March 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @redshirt: Not sure if your being snarky, but what better way to lure your victims to your home, than a game they would want to play. Which then means that he didn’t just view it on the computer.

  21. 21.

    Persia

    March 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @chopper: The FBI?

  22. 22.

    Bubblegum Tate

    March 21, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    This calls for a Congressional panel–no Catholics, please. Just women and some abuse victims.

  23. 23.

    Mike Lamb

    March 21, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Shouldn’t the fact that a 67 year old had a Nintendo DS have been sufficient to arrest him on child porn charges sight unseen?

  24. 24.

    Gustopher

    March 21, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    About the guy’s views on contraceptives: if you’re a Catholic priest into young boys, contraception doesn’t really come into it, so what’s with the implication of hypocrisy?

  25. 25.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Stop the war on the religious freedom to molest kids.

  26. 26.

    Schlemizel

    March 21, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    @MikeBoyScout:
    Oh yes, they certainly do have something to say! He doesn’t serve that parish any more, he was set up by devious homosexuals, What priest?, It only happens in America, it was the hippies

    I could go on (lard knows the church sure has) but you get the point

  27. 27.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 21, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    OT

    I don’t agree with this, and wish Obama would veto it. But he won’t in an election year. Though I don’t know just how onerous the bill is, but I don’t think we need any more deregulation. People with more knowledge in this area, could change my opinion on it.

    Obama has endorsed the JOBS Act and is expected to sign it.

    The House-passed bill would create a new class of companies labeled as “emerging growth companies” that would enjoy relaxed rules under the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Among other changes, the bill would also end an SEC ban on small-company advertisements to solicit capital; allow the solicitation of funds over the Internet, known as crowd funding; increase the offering threshold from $5 million to $50 million before SEC registration is required; raise the shareholder registration requirement from 500 to 1,000 shareholders; and increase the number of shareholders allowed to invest in community banks from 500 to 2,000.

    Sounds awful, but what do I know?

  28. 28.

    redshirt

    March 21, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    @cathyx: No snark, but when you put it that way, I see your point. Silly me! Didn’t even think it could be used to lure young boys. As you can tell, I’m not very Religious.;)

  29. 29.

    brettvk

    March 21, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    I know I’m an Old, but — priests play video games? Even if you’re a devout Catholic, do you want to confess to someone who’s playing Grand Theft Auto in their leisure hours?

    ETA: The bait-for-boys factor didn’t occur to me. Maybe the bishops should think about prohibiting gaming for priests — might be more enforceable than the rules about not raping the parishioners.

  30. 30.

    J.W. Hamner

    March 21, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    @cathyx:

    Yes, the DS (and anything by Nintendo) is one of the most popular game systems with young children. Think Pokémon.

  31. 31.

    ShadeTail

    March 21, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Fuckin’ A, what is wrong with people? It’s 2012. How could anyone still be so ignorant about computers and electronic storage? If you’ve got bad and/or embarrassing stuff stored there, *wipe it before you give the device to someone else*! And for fucks sake, *NEVER* put it in an email or on a social networking site.

    The rape of kids, nastily enough, has become practically mundane now. But I’m just agog at the stupidity of this.

  32. 32.

    Southern Beale

    March 21, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Another “Breitbart” SCOOOOP!

    Not really but just as funny. They thought they had an “exclusive” interview with U2’s Bono talking about taxes, in fact it was just some Irish guy in sunglasses who sorta looked like Bono.

    Hilarious!

  33. 33.

    Culture of Truth

    March 21, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    “A guy around where I live was caught in pretty much the same way when he took his computer in for maintenance and the tech guys booted it up and found a shitload of kiddie porn and called the FBI.”

    Happens all the time. It’s really amazing.

  34. 34.

    Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity

    March 21, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Sounds awful, but what do I know?

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero): I’m in the tank for Obama but this sorry-assed piece of shit legislation is going to come back and bite either his second term or his legacy in the ass.

  35. 35.

    MikeJ

    March 21, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    @Southern Beale: If only there was some website where this could be discussed…

  36. 36.

    Bludger

    March 21, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    @David Koch:
    Stop the war on the religious FREEDOM to view child pornography on Nintendo DS’s

  37. 37.

    danimal

    March 21, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    I used to cringe at the ‘bad clergy’ stories. A lot of good people have been tarnished by association with the bad apples like this priest (apparently). Now I wonder if the good people just looked the other way.

  38. 38.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity:

    Yup, and here is what Harry Reid had to say about it, as he voted for it.

    “I want everyone to know, the bill is imperfect and perhaps that is an understatement,” Reid said.

    Peachy

  39. 39.

    wrb

    March 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):

    Sounds awful, but what do I know?

    As it is you only are allowed to invest in early stage start ups if you are rich- an “accredited investor” who has $1m assets not including your home.

    One thing this bill is open those juicy opportunities to all.
    So their is a populist/99% angle to it.

    Could it also lead to abuses? Yes.

  40. 40.

    wrb

    March 21, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    @wrb: damn, not allowed to edit

  41. 41.

    chopper

    March 21, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    i’d figure if i were a priest and i was selling a used computer every dude interested in it would either be a pedophile or a detective.

  42. 42.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 21, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    @wrb:

    I got your drift, i think :-)

  43. 43.

    wrb

    March 21, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):

    wiki types better:

    The primary provisions of the House bill include amendments that would:
    increase the number of shareholders a company may have before being required to register its common stock with the SEC and become a publicly reporting company. Currently, these requirements are generally triggered when a company’s assets reach $10 million and it has 500 shareholders of record.[6],[7] The House bill would alter this so that the threshold is reached only if the company has 500 “unaccredited” shareholders, or 2,000 total shareholders, including both accredited and unaccredited shareholders.[4][8]
    To allow small businesses to sell stock to persons non-accredited investors in amounts up to $10,000, or 10% of their annual income (a form of crowd funding)[9]
    To create a new designation, “emerging growth companies”, that would phase in fees and compliance requirements for smaller newly-public companies over a period of five years after their first public offering.[9]
    To allow small companies to publicly advertise for investors. [9]
    To raise the limit for securities offerings exempted under Rule 505 of Regulation D from $5 million to $50 million, thereby allowing for larger fundraising efforts under this simplified regulation.[9]
    To raise the number of permitted shareholders in community banks from 500 to 2,000.[9

  44. 44.

    les

    March 21, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):
    Yeah, it’s fuckin’ awful. They’re really expanding the pool of scammers who can “legally” move money up the income/wealth scale, while providing no information and less value.

  45. 45.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    March 21, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    To answer your question, John: There would be less kids to take pictures of if women keep using contraception.

  46. 46.

    les

    March 21, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Well, maybe things on the child raping front are improving; with official approval, in the 50’s the Dutch Catholic church had a worse solution–ship the victims to (Catholic) mental hospitals, and castrate ’em. The RCC really needs to be banned and burned to the ground.

  47. 47.

    Soonergrunt

    March 21, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    @Jennifer: Hahahahahahahahahaha!
    you win the internets today.

  48. 48.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    First they came for the kiddie porn…

  49. 49.

    liberal

    March 21, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):
    Hah. I was going to post that on some thread or another as Obot-bait.

  50. 50.

    J. Michael Neal

    March 21, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    @Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity: I’m not fond of this bill, but let’s not go overboard on its downside. Very little of what it does is new. Instead, most of it simply expands things that are already going on. I’m not sure that allowing companies raising up to $50 million under Reg A, as opposed to just $5 million, is a big deal. It also raises the number of investors that can hold equity in a company and still have it be considered closely held.

    The two parts I’m really down on are allowing general solicitation under Reg D and allowing for more interaction between an analyst and the issuer of an IPO for a small company. Still, even here, I just don’t think the effect will be all that large.

    Then again, all of that means that the job creation impact of the thing is grossly overstated, too.

  51. 51.

    liberal

    March 21, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    @J. Michael Neal:
    Yeah, and we should take your word for it, cuz you have teh bona fides!

  52. 52.

    Southern Beale

    March 21, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    And also, there’s the question of whether there were any conscience-clauses that might have prevented this surgical mutilation the Catholic church inflicted on these poor souls ….

    Dutch Roman Catholic Church ‘castrated at least 10 boys’
    __
    At least 10 teenage boys or young men under the age of 21 were surgically castrated “to get rid of homosexuality” while in the care of the Dutch Roman Catholic Church in the 1950s.

  53. 53.

    Baud

    March 21, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    @Southern Beale: Since Santorum cares so much about Dutch health policy, I’m sure he will comment on this real soon…

  54. 54.

    nellcote

    March 21, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Why did the senate defund the import/export bank?

  55. 55.

    trollhattan

    March 21, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    @chopper:

    Or bishop.

  56. 56.

    Cat Lady

    March 21, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    @ General Stuck:

    According to TPM it looks like Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is willing to trade support for the JOBS Act for approval of some judicial nominees.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    March 21, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    White House (via TPM):

    I mean, again, it is — you have to be aggressively and deliberately ignorant of the world economy not to know and understand that clean energy technologies are going to play a huge role in the 21st century. You have to have severely diminished capacity to understand what drives economic growth in industrialized countries in this century if you do not understand that education is the key that unlocks the door to prosperity. The budget proposed by Chairman Ryan and supported overwhelmingly already by Republicans suggests that those problems exist in the minds of the supporters of that plan.

  58. 58.

    srv

    March 21, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    I demand Santorum address this issue immediately, how long will his silence last?

  59. 59.

    Lee

    March 21, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    @Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity:

    I wondered about that the other day. I was going to ask, but then considered the creep factor might be a little high.

  60. 60.

    John O

    March 21, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    @Baud:

    Them’s fightin’ words.

  61. 61.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 21, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    Plus I didn’t catch in my first comment, that the senate vote today simply moved the bills forward for debate, and according to my above link @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero): Reid is likely to require more protections, whatever that means

    But perhaps triggering another fight, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said after the vote that Democrats were adding two amendments intended to boost protections for investors. Republicans want the House version of the bill without any changes so it can head to the White House for President Barack Obama’s signature.

  62. 62.

    Gex

    March 21, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @Mike Goetz: Where did it say the gender of the kids? Pedophilia != gay. If a man fucks a boy, he’s not gay, he’s a pedophile. More girls are raped by men than boys are raped by men, but somehow pedophilia is a “gay” thing.

    Fuck off.

  63. 63.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    bARRY iZ wUrSt dEn hITlER

    rUN pOlL/gLEeENn 2012

  64. 64.

    Jay C

    March 21, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):

    So the likelihood is that the JOBS bill (flawed as it may be) might die on the arduous journey to and/or from a House/Senate Committee? And over “protections for investors”?

    THAT should please those with objections to the bill!

  65. 65.

    rea

    March 21, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    @Gex: No, it didn’t say the dof the kids directly–but it did say that the priest had admitted that he had used the machine to look at gay pornography, claiming that he’d only looked at adults.

  66. 66.

    Amir Khalid

    March 21, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @John O:
    As you well know, it’s not slander when you tell the truth. The Republicans in question really are pig-ignorant and fucking stupid. You wait and see: when they get mad at Jay Carney, it won’t be for lying about them; it’ll be for telling everyone on them. It was supposed to be a secret!

  67. 67.

    Origuy

    March 21, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    @Gex:

    Where did it say the gender of the kids?

    Ummm…

    A search of Bullman’s personal computer uncovered “images of young males between the ages of 12 and 18, either engaged in sexual activity or displaying their genitals,” according to the Missoulian.

  68. 68.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    sTauP bARry

    hE kENyAN

    sn ǝʌɐs uɐɔ ןן0d unɹ ʎuןo

    rUn p))0ll//:hAMshter 2012

  69. 69.

    replicnt6

    March 21, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    @Gex:

    “images of young males between the ages of 12 and 18…”

    Other questions?

  70. 70.

    LanceThruster

    March 21, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    I’m Curious About This Guy’s Views on Contraceptives

    Or wetsuits.

    Bill Donohue of the Catholic League is always b!tching about about how clergy is singled out exclusively and cites molestation stats for teachers and the non-RCC.

    Here in SoCal, we’ve had a rash of molestation/inappropriate touching allegations against LAUSD teachers and nobody seems to be downplaying the seriousness.

    He just can’t stand that a group of the supposedly celibate gets caught with their collective hands in the proverbial underage cookie jars and that sticks in people’s memories.

  71. 71.

    BGinCHI

    March 21, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    If anyone is interested in what’s going on in Toulouse with the murders there and the guy who is apparently the perpetrator, here is a great report from the Guardian:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/21/toulouse-shootings-standoff-mohammed-merah?CMP=twt_fd

  72. 72.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    kEii da bIll

    lISteN tW0 jAnE sHE NaUgT rAYcIsT

    C3nK/jAN3/gL33Nn/pAul 2012

  73. 73.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 21, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    @Bludger:

    His views? I’m sure his views go something like:
    FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    OMGFREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMM

    LOL he’s a priest so no

    The Catholic clergy in the majority are anti-liberal in the sense of rejecting liberalism as defined 300 years ago and everything since

    They have their own system which is why it’s so goofy to hear these bishops talk about “religious liberty” like they give a shit about that in anything but a relative way, a few decades of encyclicals doesn’t make it so, especially if they’re old dudes

  74. 74.

    John O

    March 21, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    I wonder how Mitt’s “etch-a-sketch” guy’s day is going.

    That’s going to stick. Mark my words.

  75. 75.

    replicnt6

    March 21, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    I don’t know. First of all, I think “felony sexual abuse of children” seems a bit absurd for _possesion_ of child pornography. Not saying it isn’t the law, it probably is. It’s just a pretty damn far cry from actual abuse of children.

    Second, 23 images seems like a pretty small number of the guy was actually _seeking_ child pornography. Sounds to me more like trawling around the internets for gay porn and catching some kids in the net (see what I did there?)

    If you’ve ever bounced around any tumblr sites with “art” photography, you might want to carefully check your browser caches.

    Don’t get me wrong. Child pornography is a Bad Thing. But I think we’ve gotten a little hysterical about it.

  76. 76.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 21, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    @Jay C:

    And over “protections for investors”?
    THAT should please those with objections to the bill!

    Well, you got me there. I just figured if the wingnuts were against the amendments, or for the House bill as was, then those protections for investors are a good thing. It usually is accurate, that method, but not always. So, Touche, to you!!

  77. 77.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    @John O: http://youtu.be/cKtNYmsarUE

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/21/1076466/-Newt-Gingrich-lampoons-Mitt-Romney-s-Etch-A-Sketch-Strategy

  78. 78.

    scav

    March 21, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    @BGinCHI: Thanks. Hadn’t checked since this morning. This one looks to be messy on multiple fronts, although there does seem to have been some solid police development and use of evidence over the last few days at least.

  79. 79.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 21, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Pretty much the only way to avoid illegal images in your cache is to never look for porn on the Internet at all

    Also never fuck up clicking after a Google search, pretty much you have to disconnect your computer from the Internet

  80. 80.

    KG

    March 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero): here’s a breakdown (from Forbes) of the key provisions. I don’t really have a problem with raising the cap on the number of shareholders that forces a company public. The “emerging growth companies” thing sounds dubious but I don’t know if it’ll make that big a difference. What bothers me, is lifting the prohibition on Wall Street analysts touting the stocks of their investment banking departments’ clients. Having a conflict of interest rule there seems like a good idea, if only because the old rules probably contributed to the mortgage security mess we are still trying to dig our way out of. Nor am I sure about the modifications to Regulation A and Regulation D (though the idea of commercials aimed at unsophisticated investors is not one that I like).

    End of the day, it’s a mess, half good, half bad. So, as compromises go, it’s probably a good one because no one really likes it. As policy? Fuck if I know at this point.

  81. 81.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 21, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    @KG:

    as compromises go, it’s probably a good one because no one really likes it.

    That’s a piss poor way to judge anything because it assumes that someone with the time to care or the power to influence the decision is right

  82. 82.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    March 21, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    If you’ve ever bounced around any tumblr sites with “art” photography, you might want to carefully check your browser caches.

    If Caravaggio was working today, he’d probably be brought up on charges.

  83. 83.

    eemom

    March 21, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    OT, but I’ve been waiting all day to share this headline:

    Andrew Sullivan Is Frightened By Complexity

    It has the extra added advantage of being a post by Jeffrey Goldberg about guess-where. Go on Cole, FP it — I double dog dare ya.

  84. 84.

    Mark S.

    March 21, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    @John O:

    It is going to stick. Real stupid comment by that Romney guy.

  85. 85.

    KG

    March 21, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    @AA+ Bonds: it’s an old line among lawyers. The basic idea is: both sides think they are right and [ETA: think they] either gave up too much or didn’t get enough out of it. Usually, if one side really likes a deal, that means someone got over on the other.

  86. 86.

    quannlace

    March 21, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    he took his computer in for maintenance and the tech guys booted it up and found a shitload of kiddie porn

    These guys must believe that once they unplug their computers, all the stuff evaporates like the morning dew.
    *****************

    If you’ve ever bounced around any tumblr sites with “art” photography, you might want to carefully che

    Oh, please. We’re not talking about little babies with angel wings.

    that he had used the gaming console to view gay pornography, but insisted all the subjects were at least 18 years old.

    Until it was pointed out, that obviously they weren’t.

  87. 87.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 21, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    @KG:

    I’ve heard it more times than I can count but it’s a dumb thing to think or say, it universalizes the adversarial system to all things and is grotesquely elitist

  88. 88.

    Catsy

    March 21, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    @Chyron HR:

    sexual images of naked children were found on his Nintendo DS gaming console

    Yeah, but to be fair it was just the latest Square-Enix game.

    Please fill out the following form to claim your internet.

  89. 89.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    @quannlace:

    You do understand that an image can show up in your cache even if it shows up a foot down a page and you never actually look at it, right

  90. 90.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I hope Axelrod buys 100,000 mini etch-a-sketch pads and hands them out to everyone attending the Democratic convention, so they can wave it every time Mittens is mentioned.

  91. 91.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 21, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    I’m just letting y’all know that every time you Google for porn (or anything else) and end up on a non-trusted non-registered porn site you run a very real risk of ending up with illegal material on your computer and even if the site is trusted you still run that risk

    It’s just something everyone needs to know and neither the police nor the courts will give a shit that it is in your cache instead of a special folder named something terrible, and the cops have a lot of leeway to seize any PC or mobile device

  92. 92.

    cathyx

    March 21, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @replicnt6: I think you are a sick dude. To not be outraged by any degree of child pornography tells me you probably partake in some viewing of it yourself.

  93. 93.

    KG

    March 21, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    @AA+ Bonds: politics is fairly adversarial, so I don’t see a problem with that. I’m not sure how it’s elitist, though.

    Would I prefer a system where everyone works together and realizes they can’t get everything they want? Yes, yes, I would. I would also like the MegaMillions numbers for Friday in advance. I think I have a better chance of getting the numbers early than I do of everyone working together.

  94. 94.

    quannlace

    March 21, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    Yes, I do , dear.

  95. 95.

    Catsy

    March 21, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    @cathyx: No, he’s got a perfectly valid point, as does AA+ Bonds. The law makes no distinction between incidental and unintentional possession of such illegal material and the intentional kind collected by predators. Most cops and prosecutors will not even bother to try to tell the difference: if it’s there, you’re guilty, regardless of how it got there.

    There are real predators out there and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But it is in all honesty far too easy to end up with content on your computer–particularly in your browser cache–that you didn’t choose to put there and didn’t even know you had. If you’ve ever had a virus, clicked inadvertently on a pop-up or link to the wrong place, or gone looking for constitutionally-protected explicit material of adults, there’s a nontrivial, nonzero chance that you’ve had this happen.

    Anyone who thinks that can’t happen to them doesn’t know as much about computers or the Internet as they think they do.

  96. 96.

    Chris

    March 21, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    The Catholic clergy in the majority are anti-liberal in the sense of rejecting liberalism as defined 300 years ago and everything since

    Don’t know if I’d say that’s true of the Catholic clergy “in the majority:” it’s definitely true of the bishops and the Vatican, e.g. the Church as an institution, though.

  97. 97.

    replicnt6

    March 21, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    @cathyx:

    I think you are a sick dude. To not be outraged by any degree of child pornography tells me you probably partake in some viewing of it yourself.

    I hope you’re snarking here, but in case you aren’t: you think that this guy, who has 23 images of underage boys in some state of undress on his computer is as culpable as someone who actually abuses children? And I should be outraged? _That’s_ fucking sick.

  98. 98.

    cathyx

    March 21, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    @replicnt6: Do you really think that the images are only of the boys without a shirt on? Do you really think that if he likes to look at boys naked and/or aroused, and that that is all he does? He had a computer game. Do you really think that he is the one who plays it? Or maybe he uses it to lure boys to his house. That’s the oldest trick in the child molester’s book.

  99. 99.

    Provider_UNE

    March 21, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Bill Donohue of the Catholic League is always b!tching about about how clergy is singled out exclusively and cites molestation stats for teachers and the non-RCC.

    I have always found this “Someone else did it too, look over there” defense troubling at best. Yet it is the go to game plan for the GOP and the Roman Catholic Church.

    Invariably the scale of the perfidy on the one side is enourmous compared to the crimes on the other.

    We say Rush Limbaugh, they say Bill Maher, Ed Shultz, and while the latter two have tasted their feet from time to time, Limpy’s had like 3000 below the knee leg transplants.

    It would be like hitler using “but pol pot, idi amin” as a defense.

    It seems to work and the press plays along…
    .

  100. 100.

    MosesZD

    March 21, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):

    Obama has endorsed the JOBS Act and is expected to sign it.

    The House-passed bill would create a new class of companies labeled as “emerging growth companies” that would enjoy relaxed rules under the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Among other changes, the bill would also end an SEC ban on small-company advertisements to solicit capital; allow the solicitation of funds over the Internet, known as crowd funding; increase the offering threshold from $5 million to $50 million before SEC registration is required; raise the shareholder registration requirement from 500 to 1,000 shareholders; and increase the number of shareholders allowed to invest in community banks from 500 to 2,000.

    I think it’s great. One of the things that really used to bother me when I was still practicing, were the insane hoops smaller companies had to go through to raise capital in order to move up the ladder. With these long-over-due changes, it’ll make it easier for small, successful businesses to raise capital without going through some shit stains that take way too much of the pie for very little effort, like Goldman.

  101. 101.

    A Humble Lurker

    March 21, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    @replicnt6:
    Kids have to be molested, abused, or at least spied on in very private places for that pornography to be made. He’s basically paying for all that.

  102. 102.

    replicnt6

    March 21, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    @cathyx:

    He had a computer game. Do you really think that he is the one who plays it? Or maybe he uses it to lure boys to his house. That’s the oldest trick in the child molester’s book.

    OK, I guess you _are_ an idiot. You seem to know an awful lot about how pedophiles operate. It makes me think that perhaps you partake in some pedophilia yourself.

    I think you’ll find that a _lot_ of people have game consoles. If an investigation finds that he’s molested kids then, by all means, throw the fucking book at him. But to suggest that owning a game console is a prima facie case that he molests children, well, wow. For the record, I do own a game console, and I don’t molest children.

  103. 103.

    replicnt6

    March 21, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    @A Humble Lurker:

    Kids have to be molested, abused, or at least spied on in very private places for that pornography to be made. He’s basically paying for all that.

    I appreciate that, and for that reason agree that consumption of child pornography should be a crime: in order to discourage the production of the material.

    However, to put this guy’s (possibly inadvertent) possession of child pornography on a par with child molestation is quite a stretch.

    Unless you accept cathyx’s assertion that adults only use game consoles to lure children into their houses for molestation. In which case, hang ’em.

  104. 104.

    rikyrah

    March 21, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    under the jail, please

  105. 105.

    Winston Smith

    March 21, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Whoa. This is huge. I have had a Nintendo DS for several years and I had no idea you could store pictures on it. Maybe this was a DSi? That has a camera.

    Leave it to our lousy news media to omit critical facts.

  106. 106.

    Catsy

    March 21, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    @cathyx:

    Do you really think that the images are only of the boys without a shirt on? Do you really think that if he likes to look at boys naked and/or aroused, and that that is all he does? He had a computer game. Do you really think that he is the one who plays it? Or maybe he uses it to lure boys to his house. That’s the oldest trick in the child molester’s book.

    Do you have any actual information whatsoever that you’re not sharing, or is this just speculation drawn straight from your imagination?

    ‘Cause it looks a hell of a lot like the latter from here. I sure as shit hope you’re never on any jury that stands between me and a wrongful conviction.

    Not saying this guy is innocent, but you’re coming dangerously close to donning a pair of water skis and clearing the shark by a couple meters.

  107. 107.

    Jado

    March 22, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    @danimal:

    I agree with you about the good individuals in the clergy, but the RC church institutionally seems to go out of its way to cover-up obfuscate and protect its criminal members. That’s why I have no trust in it, and I believe it should be indicted under RICO

    I can’t think of another organization that does so much illegal(allegedly)activity to protect its reputation.

  108. 108.

    LanceThruster

    March 23, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    @Provider_UNE:

    Very astute examples.

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