Remember when Mitt Romney told Fox News that he had super secret black supporters? Turns out they’re so secret that they don’t even know they support Mitt Romney.
According to the latest NBC/WSJ poll, Mittens is getting exactly zero percent love from black people:
After Mitt Romney selected his vice presidential running mate, and just days before the political conventions kick off next week, President Barack Obama maintains his advantage in the race for the White House, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
~snip~
Looking inside the numbers, Obama continues to lead Romney among key parts of his political base, including African Americans (94 percent to 0 percent), Latinos (by a 2-to-1 margin), voters under 35-years-old (52 percent to 41 percent) and women (51 percent to 41 percent).
Romney is ahead with whites (53 percent to 40 percent), rural voters (47 percent to 38 percent) and seniors (49 percent to 41 percent).
ZERO PERCENT.
This of course has led to hilarity on Twitter, where a handful of black people (including one guy whose avatar is half black guy and half Andrew Breitbart – scary!) are tweeting things like, “We exist. We exist. We exist.” as if chanting “bloody Mary” in order to convince themselves that they really do exist. White conservatives are congratulating “their blacks” for escaping the Democratic plantation, veering off the path through the cotton-field of ignorance, and daring to do something they call “thinking for themselves.” Their blacks are better! High five!
[read full post at ABLC]
Steve
We are the 0%!
hueyplong
It somehow seems appropriate that the very existence of AA GOP voters is considered to be within the margin for error.
We should work for the day when female and hispanic pools are similar.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
we exist! we exist! #roundingerror
kerFuFFler
Boil that dust speck!
ruemara
Sure you exist, black republican guy, just not statistically as voting for Romney. But you’re at least 6% of not really sure/not voting for anyone.
rita forsyth
oh my women will become not a “distraction” as Paulie blue eyes said yesterday but ema a ZERO?
rita forsyth
oh my women will become not a “distraction” as Paulie blue eyes said yesterday but ema a ZERO?
rita forsyth
oh my women will become not a “distraction” as Paulie blue eyes said yesterday but ema a ZERO?
danah gaz (fka gaz)
we exist! we exist! #wearearoundingerror
kerFuFFler
Boil that dust speck!
ruemara
Sure you exist, black republican guy, just not statistically as voting for Romney. But you’re at least 6% of not really sure/not voting for anyone.
hueyplong
It somehow seems appropriate that the very existence of AA GOP voters is considered to be within the margin for error.
We should work for the day when female and hispanic pools are similar.
Phoenix_rising
0%. with a MOE of +/-3, that means…
It could be worse: it’s possible that somewhere in the multiverse 3% of black voters will drag a non-black voter to weigh in against Mitt, thus putting Obama over the top.
Would that we live in said corner of the multiverse…
ruemara
Sure you exist, black republican guy, just not statistically as voting for Romney. But you’re at least 6% of not really sure/not voting for anyone.
Jerzy Russian
With the margin of error that comes with any poll, Romney’s support among that group could even be negative.
ruemara
Sure you exist, black republican guy, just not statistically as voting for Romney. But you’re at least 5% of not really sure/not voting for anyone.
Mike in NC
He merely rented them for the election from Donald Trump.
kerFuFFler
Boil that dust speck, boil that dust speck!
Villago Delenda Est
Well, apparently, the pollster failed to contact Herman Cain, Michael Steele, Allan West, or Artur Davis.
OTOH, they may well have talked to Condeleeza Rice…
? Martin
Actually, since the MOE is 3.1%, he could have a negative percentage of the black vote. 0% could be overstating it.
Mike in NC
He merely rented them for the election from Donald Trump.
Villago Delenda Est
Well, apparently, the pollster failed to contact Herman Cain, Michael Steele, Allan West, or Artur Davis.
OTOH, they may well have talked to Condeleeza Rice…
Jerzy Russian
With the margin of error that comes with any poll, Romney’s support among that group could even be negative.
kerFuFFler
Boil that dust speck, boil that dust speck!
Mike G
The margin of error is +/- 3.1%.
It’s more likely that Rmoney has -3.1% African-American support.
dmsilev
Well, there’s Alan Keyes and Allen West.
Apparently Mitt Romney polls well among black men whose first name is some variant of ‘Alan’.
Villago Delenda Est
Well, apparently, the pollster failed to contact Herman Cain, Michael Steele, Allan West, or Artur Davis.
OTOH, they may well have talked to Condeleeza Rice…
ruemara
Wow, that was odd. Each time I waited and checked and the site did not register the post. Clean up on aisle 5!
? Martin
Oh, and Romney says energy independence by 2020. How? First by approving the Keystone pipeline. What does the Keystone pipeline do? Increases the amount of oil we can import from Canada.
I’m sure this will be immediately held up as a very serious, adult plan that extends the discussion on energy.
comrade scott's agenda of rage
The next step is making sure that all African Americans who are eligible to vote a) are registered, b) are assisted in any way possible to vote, and c) not Jim Crowed away at the ballot box.
Villago Delenda Est
Well, apparently, the pollster failed to contact Herman Cain, Michael Steele, Allan West, or Artur Davis.
OTOH, they may well have talked to Condeleeza Rice…
Shawn in ShowMe
Well look at it this way — he’s only four percent behind McCain’s 2008 showing. If he could get the Tavis Smiley Fan Club to vote for him he’d only be behind 3.9%.
Comrade Jake
My guess is that a lot of them simply don’t want to admit that they plan to vote for
this honkyRomney. Remember when people were speculating that people were saying they’d vote for Obama, but planning to vote for McCain, because they didn’t want to be labeled racists? This is just like that, only in reverse.Ben Cisco
They kill me with that “Democratic plantation” bullshit.
Always quick to remind you that the Dems were the bad guys.
Here’s a thought: Don’t want to be mistaken for 19th century assholes? QUICK FUCKING ACTING LIKE THEM!
...now I try to be amused
So do we get to crow about the 40% of white people who escaped the Republican plantation?
Waldo
Allen West has some splainin’ to do.
gnomedad
Nah, they just don’t want to blow their cover.
Mudge
I guess finding a black Republican is like hitting the lottery. Low percentage. Remember though. These polls are usually accurate to about 3%. So the number of blacks who will vote for Romney may be as low as -3%.
Robin G.
@kerFuFFler: I laughed like a HYENA. Well played.
beltane
This is really stunning. There isn’t even a crazification factor at work here. I mean, not even the out-of-their mind crazy Black people are considering voting Republican this year. Romney may have cornered the market on the crazy white person vote but he really has no crossover appeal with other crazy demographics, let alone the sane ones.
Caz
Why are you so proud of the racist votes of black voters??
? Martin
Actually, now that I think about it (other than FYWP), perhaps this is a brilliant plan with a key detail omitted.
This must mean Mitt is proposing a leveraged buyout of Canada. The US would take control of the country, borrow against all of their assets, strip their country of resources, pay ourselves back by raiding their pension, and then turning them loose to fend for themselves.
Brilliant!
kerFuFFler
Sorry about the repeats….the site was behaving strangely!
gnomedad
Nah, they just don’t want to blow their cover.
FYWP, also, too.
Michael G
So is anyone going to admit that the Biden “back in chains” supposed gaffe probably didn’t hurt them that much?
Waldo
Mitt can take some comfort in knowing there’s one poll in which he can’t fall any further.
Cassidy
@Caz: Wow, dude. You phoned that one in. Sick day?
beltane
@Villago Delenda Est: I’m not so sure about Michael Steele either.
JCJ
@kerFuFFler:
Oh! I thought the repeats were intentional. That made them even funnier. I just picture poor Horton as the crowd amasses with the chant of “Boil that dust speck” reaching a crescendo the more times I see that.
Catsy
@Caz: Careful there. You’ll tip your hand as a spoof troll.
Villago Delenda Est
@Caz:
Moran GOP troll is being a moran GOP troll.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
Roger Moore
@Michael G:
Are you kidding? That poll shows Obama is only ahead by 94%. If it weren’t for Biden, that would be 100%.
Cassidy
@beltane: Michael Steele just likes getting paid. Playing a black republican always pays better than a black Democrat. I ain’t mad at the guy. If I could con the wingnut rubes out of some of that wurlitzer cash, I’d happily take it.
Arclite
0%. That’s a pretty amazing statistic.
hep kitty
Mitt could care less – he’s going to steal their votes anyway.
I saw Monica Crowley tweet about this – I think she thought it was a conspiracy.
Ajabu
@Comrade Jake
My guess is that a lot of them simply don’t want to admit that they plan to vote for this honky Romney. Remember when people were speculating that people were saying they’d vote for Obama, but planning to vote for McCain, because they didn’t want to be labeled racists? This is just like that, only in reverse.
I don’t think so, Jake. Black folk have voted for white politicians forever (we never before had a choice at the presidential level) but anybody who would actually vote for Romney is clearly a Herman Cain level buffoon and easily spotted in the community.Those fools don’t keep their dumb assed opinions to themselves.You won’t find that “I like this racist rich white guy but I can’t admit it to my family and friends” the way you find that embarrassed racist hiding it by assuring you they’re voting for Obama.
That’s just not how we roll.
JustAnotherBob
Perhaps it’s time to start a collection, round up some money to purchase a bright shiny medal for whomever does the mechanical work on this site.
I’ve never seen a site achieve the rate of double, triple, quadruple, …, hextuple posts that this one manages. It’s friggin’ amazing work!
I just hit a double on another thread with only a single click.
ding dong
obummer got zero percent votes from the KKK so there!1
danielx
Relief. There’s at least one demographic group that’s able to recognize (clearly) how badly they would be screwed by the Marquis.
Villago Delenda Est
@kerFuFFler:
You’re not the only one. FYWP had one of its little multiple post conniptions.
JustAnotherBob
“the racist votes of black voters”
Perhaps you don’t recognize that a group of voters might be voting their self interests.
Unlike a bunch of middle class whites who will vote for Romney and, thus, risk shooting themselves in the foot.
eric
Has anyone actually asked Steele for whom he is voting?
eta…to attempt proper grammar
Waldo
Even old grumpy white dude McCain got 4% of the black vote. When it comes to alienating large segments of the population, Mitt is nothing if not thorough.
eric
I wonder if Romney leads among the 1% because many of them are shorting Romney on intrade and dont want to tip their hands….
RaflW
On the other hand
so the media (ie the NYT and CBS) have been doing fuck all to educate Ohio and Florida seniors about the absurd and dangerous Romney Medicare plan.
Maybe African Americans can see thru Romney’s garbage, but there’s a shit-ton of credulous/idiotic reporters out there *not* scaring seniors. With basic, plain truth, I should add.
Culture of Truth
He’s the Timothy Green of politics. He can only get better!
danah gaz (fka gaz)
And of course, as if just to underscore why black people do not vote for Republicans:
It’s practically gospel among the wingnuts that black people do not vote for the GOP because “they don’t know better”, or they “are on the Democrat plantation”, etc.
Not a single one is willing to reflect on their own party, and the things that it stands for that the vast majority of black people find nearly universally unappealing. Instead, they’d rather paint black people as stupid and/or indoctrinated, the underlying theme being “they can’t think for themselves”. The alternate viewpoint among them is that they do not vote GOP because they are universally afflicted with some deep character flaw, such as being lazy-moochers or as the Caz troll spewed, they are “racist”.
Racism is easier for the GOP than accepting some personal responsibility for driving the black vote into the arms of the Democratic party.
JoeK
I just had this weird and alarming thought today. What if during the Repub convention, they flip the ticket over and put Ryan on top? The black vote aside, Nate Silver has some pretty close numbers in some pretty important states. (I know, it completely boggles the mind that this race is even within 20 points nationwide… but it is.) Romney is screwing the pooch so badly, it almost seems like replacing him with Ryan would be the kind of dramatic move that could push the GOP ticket over the hump in some swing states.
Am I crazy, or is this something to worry about? I mean, they haven’t actually nominated Rombot yet…
Comrade Jake
“This proves black people are all racists!!!” – Rush Limbaugh
Culture of Truth
Life doesn’t work that way.
Chris T.
@danah gaz (fka gaz):
They’re the crowd Brian is talking to, near the start of “Life of Brian”: they’re all individuals!
Argive
In ’08, I was registering voters in Center City Philadelphia, which is hardly a bastion of conservative sentiment. Let’s remember that in the ’03 mayoral election, a large number of Philadelphians thought that the FBI was bugging the incumbent mayor’s office because Dubya and Ashcroft were trying to force him out in favor of a Republican, and not because our mayor was super corrupt. In any case, I did register one African-American gentleman who wished to change his voter status from D to R. Sometimes I wonder if I dreamed that whole thing.
Steve
@ding dong: Not necessarily! I remember some white supremacist who was going to vote for Obama in 2008 in order to prove once and for all that black people are incompetent.
Napoleon
@JoeK:
Yes and No.
First, Romney has just spent how many years running for President? Does anyone really believe he is simply going to step aside? Of course he isn’t and even setting aside my second point set forth below does anyone thing that enough delegates, most of whom are presumable his partisans, are going to flip to someone who never ran in the primaries.
In any event my second point on this is that I thought the RNC rules required that a delegate vote for the person they are there for on the first ballot.
ding dong
@JoeK: nah,if they do that they depress turnout in CO,NV,NM and AZ with the Mormons and Mittman won’t Allow that. He’s an alphadog. All the mormon money goes too.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@Argive: Yes there are outliers.
Until the GOP reflects on what they can do better in terms of garnering the black vote, rather than blaming black voters for not supporting them, their support among black citizens will continue to number in the single digits, at best.
The last time I checked, blaming a constituency for not voting for you is not an effective political tactic.
Applejinx
Sure there are black Romney voters. It’s easy to tell that, because they are ALL ON TELEVISION.
It’s arguably easier than trying to get on ‘Oprah’ or a reality show…
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@Chris T.: Hehehehe. Of course, you have to ignore that nobody with any pull in the GOP would ever say what Brian was saying there.
Party uber alles. It’s never the fault of the GOP. The GOP doesn’t fail, it can only be failed, remember? All must express fealty to the GOP. Otherwise you’re a RINO and a pariah.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the party of “personal responsibility”
/shakes head
Spatula
Doesn’t the fact that ZERO, NADA, ZILCH black voters support the only white candidate for president indicate some kind of blind, knee jerk racism among African Americans?
NONE?
Surely there are at least a few stupid, self destructive blacks in this country…
LanceThruster
@Caz:
Instead of that stat somehow besmirching them (AA voters), as you seem to claim they’ll back Barack Obama no matter what for reasons of skin color alone, I see it as one group that can be applauded for almost unanimously rejecting the mendacious twaddle of his Mittedness.
If only my people had such keen insight.
Brachiator
Let’s ruminate on this for a second. Apparently, Romney isn’t even getting the black Mormon vote.
@Comrade Jake:
It’s so nice to see Rush go down swinging. He insulted all women by insulting Fluke, so now he is going to double down and insult black people (for the umpteenth time).
But of course, no one in the media or the GOP will jump on him about this, the way that the fools went after Biden.
And no one will challenge Rush (or our fool troll here) on what Limbaugh clearly means here:
And, as always, there will be bone stupid people who think that the only appeal to racism is when some fool uses the N word.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@LanceThruster: The statement that Caz made was intrinsically racist itself because he arbitrarily painted all black Americans as racist, presumably using the color of their skin as a gauge.
He’d rather make racist statements than admit that his party has no interest in addressing any of the concerns of black Americans.
He’d rather make racist statements than acknowledge the fact that black citizens have often voted for white presidents.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@Spatula: On your first question: No it doesn’t. See, the history of black voters casting for white presidents.
On your second question: There are. They constitute a rounding error.
Frankensteinbeck
@Spatula:
It’s hard to say. The African-American community has watched up close four years of meaningless abuse flung at the first president elected from their ranks, systematic attempts to disenfranchise them, reverse gun control laws used as lynch laws, and direct insults from the current GOP candidate. AAs had no particular tribal loyalty to the GOP in the first case, and they have been given a gigantic pile of reasons to hate Romney even more than they did.
Obviously every group in all of humanity is afflicted with assholes, but it should not be underestimated just how overwhelming the arguments are for AAs to vote Democrat this year.
grandpa john
hmmm., so the Repubs are wondering why a group of people that they are feverishly working to deprive of the right to vote, will not vote for them to help elect people who would also work to deprive them of their right to vote. Republican logic at work.
pseudonymous in nc
I think that’s what Krugman calls the “zero bound”: margins of error break down when you get that low.
jayjaybear
@Chris T.:
I’m not!
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@danah gaz (fka gaz):
Yeah, about that…I’ll read it as snark until shown some concrete evidence that it ain’t.
Joe Buck
Of course, they are rounding; the number of blacks for Romney came out less than 0.5%, so it’s closer to 0 than to 1. But you can see why the Republicans are trying so hard to find some way to keep African Americans from voting.
And of course, no matter how large the margin of error is, you can’t have a negative number of supporters.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): I enter the body of Caz’s post history into evidence. I stand by my claim. It wasn’t snark on his part.
ETA: If by some small chance Caz is a spoof-troll, I submit that a racist spoof troll is still racist, just like “ironic hipster racism” is still racism.
Brachiator
@Spatula:
Let’s see, now. To answer the question the way that you want presumes that Mitt is offering himself as The White Candidate, the Great White Hope, or otherwise saying that the only thing he has to offer is his race.
Is there any evidence of this?
Hmmm. You have a Mittens spokes hole parroting how Mittens understands the Brits because he brings that Anglo Saxon something extra to the table. Something that Obama lacks.
You have Mittens and his blue eyed Ryan’s Hope claiming that Obama just wants to give black folk welfare with no work requirements.
You previously had Little Ricky Santorum and Newt the Poot Gingrich saying how they look over America and somehow don’t see any black people with jobs or white people on welfare.
We have example after example of Tea Party people getting proceedings off to a rousing start with blatantly racist jokes.
Most recently, we have the National Review musing over the superiority of Rich White Republican Sperm (I presume that the conceded penile size) by its presumed ability to generate male babies.
But somehow, if some black people don’t consider voting for Romney, we are supposed to speculate on possible knee jerk racism against the white guy.
Bill Clinton is laughing at you.
rikyrah
1. I don’t believe that high a percentage of Latino voters for Willard.
2. The President only won 45% of the WHITE vote in 2008. If he’s only down to 40% after 3+ years of race baiting and race insults, that’s wonderful.
Frankensteinbeck
@Spatula:
And you know, while I’m not African-American myself, I’m guessing the whole ‘gun laws used as lynch laws’ thing caused a somewhat more passionate response than you get from policy disagreements.
Mnemosyne
@Spatula:
I know, it’s so weird that when Romney told the NAACP that black people were just standing around waiting for government handouts, African-Americans didn’t slap themselves on the forehead and say, “Why, yes, Gov. Romney is so right — we are just leeches on society who want something for nothing! Thank you, Gov. Romney, for your brilliant insight into African-American society and culture!”
Instead, they got all huffy and insulted and stuff. Buncha crybabies who can’t handle the truth about themselves, amirite?
mclaren
Could this perhaps have something to do with the fact that Mormons refused to allow blacks as ordained ministers in their religion until…let’s see…1978?
People keep telling me that Romney’s Mormonism has no effect on this election. Don’t believe it for a minute.
Patricia Kayden
Why would we Black folks support a party which is working overnight to disenfranchise us?
Please. Let the White folks take the blame if he wins and wrecks the country.
Handy
Zero percent means people of color are smarter than the rest of us!
Mike E
@Culture of Truth: Green shoots!
Randy P
As a non-black, I’m more concerned about the 52% of whites (assuming that 1% are in THE 1%) who are idiots willing to vote for their own impoverishment.
Mnemosyne
@grandpa john:
Obviously only black people who are racist against white people would refuse to vote for a political party that has passed laws in multiple states to try and block them from voting.
Brachiator
@mclaren:
And again, even black Mormons are not supporting Romney.
But I don’t know the degree to which anyone, black or white, is holding Romney’s religion against him. It’s not that he is such a super candidate if you adjust for his religious beliefs.
Mnemosyne
@mclaren:
Oh, it’s having an effect, all right. My ultra-conservative (but atheist) mom hates Romney and says that Mormons are all untrustworthy based on her experiences with them living in Arizona.
It’s not having much of an effect on liberal and moderate voters, who have a long list of reasons why they dislike and distrust Romney that are higher on the list than his Mormonism, but it’s hurting him a lot with conservatives, especially the Fox News crowd.
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
The black Mormon decided to sit out this election because he can’t make up his mind.
Chuck Butcher
It Seems White People Are Gullible
Spatula
@Handy:
Racist!
Catsy
@Spatula:
Wow. The trolls just aren’t even trying anymore. Nothing. They’ve got nothing.
This, folks, is what rank desperation smells like.
mclaren
@Mnemosyne:
Indeed. And this is why I’m utterly baffled as to why the people who run the Republican party allowed Romney to become their nominee. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, Romney’s religion poses such a problem to the fundamentalist evangelical Christian base of the Republican party that Romney faces a veritable pincer movement — liberals despise him because he’s…well, Gordon Gekko, the very embodiment of financial manipulator tax fraudster job offshoring billionaire who has been destroying America for the last 30 years…and on the other hand, Romney is deeply loathed by the “left behind” Rapture fundamentalist crowd that makes up circa 60% of the Republican voters.
And it’s not as if the Republican elites couldn’t have manipulated the primaries to exclude Romney. If the Republicans can manage to disenfranchise millions of independent and Democratic voters in swing states, surely Republicans could manage to disenfranchise or otherwise “disappear” the votes of millions of Republican-registered primary voters likely to vote for Romney. Voter fraud is the bread and butter of the modern Republican party, from hanging chads to those suspicious voting machine totals in Ohio in the 2004 presidential election.
And as for black people not voting Republican, it’s a lot more than just the fact that Republicans have tried to disenfranchise them. Conservative Republicans in America have in effect used drug laws and the courts to continue and extend the Jim Crow laws of the deep south from the 1950s. The entire War on Drugs is actually a War on Black People: 80% of the people who use recreational drugs in America are non-black, but 80% of the people who go to prison on drug-related crimes are black.
And this isn’t just some wild theory I’m pulling out of my ass. Legal scholar Michelle Alexander has written the book on how Republicans have used drug laws and the courts to reinstate Jim Crow laws throughout America: The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration In the Age of Colorblindness. And she sets out a mountain of statistics and evidence to back up her case.
MCA1
@danah gaz (fka gaz): folks like Caz effectively just mistake “empathy” for “racism” in this case, that’s all. A lot of Republican types think it insane that anyone wealthy or financially established would vote for anyone other than a Republican, in large part because their personal pocketbook trumps all other issues combined x5, and the GOP is sworn to fight for that interest to the death. So, when they see that wealthy or financially established black people might vote for a Democrat, that immediately sets off their radars and they assume that person’s priorities are grossly out of whack. Explaining that by calling it racism, because it just so happens to be black people voting for a black Democrat, is just cognitively much easier than considering that there’s a reasonable, logical alternative based on giving a shit about anyone other than yourself.
Mnemosyne
@mclaren:
IMO, it’s because the big money boys who run the Republican Party have been able to get the fundamentalists to fall in line for the past 30 years by throwing them a bone or two of social conservatism while they methodically strip the country down for every valuable part.
The only problem is, as anyone even vaguely familiar with history or science fiction could have told them, the fundamentalists are no longer happy with being thrown a few bones by the vulture capitalists. They want to run the whole show, and they’ve been methodically working towards that goal for decades.
Notice who the big money boys are that are throwing millions and millions of dollars into ads. It’s not your average Republican capitalists — it’s people like the Koch brothers, who are true believers in all of the John Bircher stuff they spew, or Adelson, who would be perfectly happy to have all of the fundamentalists’ dreams come true in the US as long as they support Israel.
The big money boys are desperately trying to shove their monster back down into the basement, but it’s too late. They created him, they brought him to life, and he will destroy them.
Brachiator
@Chuck Butcher:
Really liked this point:
The GOP is nakedly appealing to fear. And the gullible suckers are falling for it.
Hook, line, and sinker.
M31
@Steve:
“Steve Says:
@ding dong: Not necessarily! I remember some white supremacist who was going to vote for Obama in 2008 in order to prove once and for all that black people are incompetent.”
Wasn’t that Charles Manson’s grand plan? Kill some white celebrities, start a race war, the blacks find out after winning the race war that they can’t govern so they turn to Charles &co for guidance.
Spatula
@Catsy:
You have an utter lack of humor, and take yourself far too seriously, Patsy.
LanceThruster
@danah gaz (fka gaz):
I remember catching similar flak from PUMAs because I chose Obama over Hillary (that I somehow hated women) I was not comfortable with her for prez, but would certainly choose her over Mitt, and was not wholly unhappy she was selected for Sec. of State.
Nevermind that the only pols I’ve ever donated to were Obama, Cindy Sheehan and Marcy Winograd – not even my districts – all ran against women at one point – btw, I’d like to support more, but that is not possible at the moment..my donations are at times like longshot bets.
elaine benes
0%? LMAO.
Back a few months ago, when Obama came out favor of gay rights, every one of my wingtard acquaintances were delirious with joy because that stance was going to alienate his black supporters and send them running into republican arms.
mclaren
@Mnemosyne:
I believe you’re talking about Christian Dominionism. The problem with a view of Christian evangelical fundamentalists as in control, or at least aspiring to be in control, of the Republican party, as opposed to an important part of the base of the party, is that in that case you’d logically expect someone like Huckabee to be the Republican presidential nominee.
The Xian fundies seem to have made their big bid for control of the Repub party back in the 1980s when they pushed hard for Pat Robertson as their presidential nominee and got smacked down so hard they appear to have abandoned that ambition. I thought movements like the Christian Exodus cult, in which Xian fundies now scheme to flood into some small state (South Carolina is the current favorite) in the deep south and form a large enough percentage of the voters to create a theocracy and secede from the USA, signaled the end of Xian fundamentalist evangelical ambitions to gain power by controlling secular organizations like the Republican party (AKA “Dominonism”).
I truly don’t grasp what’s going on inside the Republican party. It seems like North Korea: mysterious internal convulsions produce bizarre and inexplicable behavior.
mclaren
@elaine benes:
This is starting to sound familiar. I recall Repub fanatics waiting for the “tide to turn” against Obama on election night back in 2008 when they were certain, absolutely dead certain, that late returns from the center of the country would swing the election to McCain.
Republicans seem to have come adrift from observed reality so completely that they’re not even able to adequately assess the political situation on the ground.
LanceThruster
There’s that old saying that “A black/woman/working person voting Republican would be like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”
Since the Chick-fil-A dustup, I’ve seen those pictures of KFC signs saying “Hate-Free Chicken Served Here.”
Too bad the line can’t be changed to ” like a chicken voting for Dan Cathy/Chick-fil-A” but it’s just not as funny because too few people know who this clown is.
Maybe that’s a good thing.
elaine benes
@mclaren:
I agree.
LanceThruster
Someone’s link led me here (it might have been from in here…my memory’s…?…do what now?).
It’s well worth checking out for laughs and insight.
The Four Types of Conservatives
Villago Delenda Est
@elaine benes:
The thing is, if a GOP political operative gives any sort of objective analysis of things on the ground, he’s savaged for saying something heretical. It’s happened to Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove.
mclaren
@Villago Delenda Est:
This suggests that the Republican Party has transitioned from late-stage-Kim-Jong-Il crazy to locked-ward-at-Bellevue crazy. Yet another reason I don’t expect them to win this election.
LanceThruster
@mclaren:
To the faithful, that’s a feature, not a bug.
Just when I feel people can’t get any more clueless, they surprise me.
No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up. ~ Lily Tomlin US actress & comedienne (1939 – )
elaine benes
@Villago Delenda Est:
It certainly will be interesting/amusing/frightening to see where this leads them.
Mnemosyne
@mclaren:
Wayne Dumond and Maurice Clemmons guaranteed that Mike Huckabee will never, ever be able to run for president no matter how much the fundies love him.
Chuck Butcher
@Brachiator:
Well, I’d like to thank a whole bunch of you for going along with my blogwhoring and Brachiator for his comment. I will note that there is a comment button on the site that isn’t exactly getting worn out…