Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

When you’re in more danger from the IDF than from Russian shelling, that’s really bad.

I would try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

White supremacy is terrorism.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Quote tweet friends, screenshot enemies.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Everybody saw this coming.

Petty moves from a petty man.

The “burn-it-down” people are good with that until they become part of the kindling.

We do not need to pander to people who do not like what we stand for.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

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  16. 16.

    Smiling Mortician

    He’s still got it.

    The raspy voice reminds me of 20 years ago. The man loves campaigning.

  17. 17.

    dance around in your bones

    Hahahaha: “born in a log cabin he built himself”

    “We’re all in this together”

    Bring on the job statistics, B. Dawg :)

  18. 18.

    El Cid

    I think this particular evil clown parade of Republicans actually pissed Bill Clinton off, personally. He’s been pretty fucking pissed off recently about the voter suppression and the ‘welfare waiver’ lies.

  20. 20.

    shoutingattherain

    Yeah I’ll say that vegan diet worked gud, but it hasn’t diminished his ability to connect.

  21. 21.

    Randy P

    He looks great.

    And here’s the policy stuff. Jobs score over last 50 years: 44 millions to 22 million or something like that.

    ETA: Hmm. He’s preaching cooperation. Haven’t we seen how that works? He admits that the current Republicans won’t ever cooperate, so why try any more?

  25. 25.

    mark

    i had something snarky to say, but on second thought, i’ll keep it to myself and just enjoy the speech

  26. 26.

    Smiling Mortician

    “The way the far right seems to hate our president. That would be impossible for me.” Tell it, Bill.

  28. 28.

    Jay C

    Shoutout to Repubs from Ike onwards… but hitting the current assclowns on “cooperation”. “get something done”.

  32. 32.

    Soonergrunt

    And now after talking about how cooperation is important, and getting the DNC to applaud George W. Bush, he’s going after the wingers, hammer and tongs.

  33. 33.

    Bostondreams

    The only convention to praise W. was Democratic. That is just…well, it says something, doesn’t it?

  43. 43.

    Soonergrunt

    Twitter is going crazy from all the people who have advance copies of the speech saying “that wasn’t in the speech” and “that’s an ad-lib”

    That’s the Big Dog!

  44. 44.

    Jay C

    National Security, the troops and military families – did we hear anything like this from the RNC, or just saber-rattling?

  45. 45.

    Smiling Mortician

    “Heck, he even appointed Hillary . . . democracy doesn’t have to be a blood sport.” Nicely done.

  47. 47.

    Randy P

    Anybody wondering about Barney Frank, C-Span is now showing him scheduled for 10:59, just before the roll call vote.

  48. 48.

    arguingwithsignposts

    If Mitch McConnell weren’t such a clueless moron, he’d be realizing about now how he fucked up when he said that four years ago.

  50. 50.

    ruemara

    Fun to watch my much younger friends. They call him the silver fox and are just thrilled with him. Go Big Dawg.

  55. 55.

    suzanne

    The vegan thing is working for Big Dog.

    I miss Big Dog. He always looked like being President was FUN.

  61. 61.

    mark

    jeebis crisp, the big dog is KILLING! you can just _*FEEL*_ he misses the big stage! could he serve in obama cabinet somewhere in the next term? that would be awesome

  63. 63.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    The people are sure enjoying this, not like the GOP where the peoples’ looks alternated between sucking lemons, and red meat hate.

  65. 65.

    spiffy

    The Republicans are all going to wake up with unexplained cuts and bruises tomorrow – that is how hard Clinton is hitting them tonight.

  68. 68.

    ChrisNYC

    I’m loving the intermittent “now.” Just so wild that he can talk to so many people like he’s talking to just one.

  69. 69.

    dance around in your bones

    “As another President once said, There they go again!”

    Hahahaha!

    Bill’s kickin’ ass.

  71. 71.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Jamison Foser ‏@jamisonfoser

    Clinton’s basically putting on a Springsteen show: Ditched the setlist, gonna go way over-schedule, rapt crowd.

  75. 75.

    RareSanity

    @Violet:

    This speech is a thing of beauty. He’s having a great time up therre.

    He loves the biggest of stages…and we love him for that.

    He’s like Michael Jordan, if the last shot of game 7 is in his hands…game over, Bulls win.

  80. 80.

    General Stuck

    BiG Dog delivers. Bullseye on the Reagan quip of “there they go again”. The entire convention so far has been to me a coming out of dems and what they believe, giving a big middle finger to the republicans. I bet the mean little shits are in a fit of vapors over it all. How dare democrats support themselves.

  88. 88.

    eric

    I told you..this is his LAST major speech ever unless his wife gets nomination and that is not a sure thing that she wants it.

    This is his legacy. The final redemptive moment.

  92. 92.

    artem1s

    There they go again… so it’s gonna be pretty hard for the Mittster to use that during the debates. So much for this week’s debate prep.

  93. 93.

    Randy P

    Clinton was always famous for going way overtime… looks like he’s blowing through his time slot tonight.

  96. 96.

    Ron

    Damn, he’s killing it. and I don’t believe this will be he last speech. I suspect he will be a regular at the DNC for a while to come.

  101. 101.

    Elizabelle

    I wish they’d deploy him to states that desperately need a Democratic senator.

    Perhaps he could help pull Elizabeth Warren over the finish line in Massachusetts. Wonder how he might do in Missouri for McCaskill?

  103. 103.

    RareSanity

    The crowd at the DNC convention isn’t just more diverse, it’s better looking by a long shot…

  108. 108.

    dmsilev

    @Poopyman: I’m watching on broadcast, and he’s still on even two minutes after the hour. I assume abc will bail at some point, but so far not yet.

  112. 112.

    El Cid

    He’s really the best at taking what are often complicated-seeming policies and making them comprehensible and politically clear.

  113. 113.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    @KG: The Rush-Cam would be messy from the head exploding. Glenn Beck would make Alex Jones and Art Bell look like David Brooks. Hannity, Coulter, and the Faux News Boobs would have their faces melt ala Raiders Of The Lost Ark.

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    @KG

    Guidelines developed over the life of the U.N. are that the Secretary-General officeholder changes by continent every time a new one is chosen, and that he/she not be a citizen of any nation designated a permanent member of the Security Council.

  118. 118.

    Soonergrunt

    People are going nuts for what is essentially “A History of Changes and Alterations to the Federal Regulatory Code.”

    How in the HELL did Bob Dole EVER think he stood a chance in 1996?

  119. 119.

    El Cid

    So, what’s all this from Republicans about how Obama and the Democrats can’t talk about what they’ve done?

  120. 120.

    LanceThruster

    I keep contrasting in my mind Mitt’s phony speech class facial expressions and the Big Dog’s genuinely engaged demeanor.

    How great to see a party proud of their predecessors and not part of (as Maher put it) the witness protection program.

    It’s too bad Pres. Jimmy Carter could not add his voice to the mix (the rethug meme is still Kryptonite).

  122. 122.

    General Stuck

    LOL, windy Bill being windy. But it is amazing how much detailed wonk the man can store in his near 70 year old noggin, and recall it all in a stream of consciousness of coherent narrative to non wonks.

    He is giving the country a play by play of rebuttal for republican bullshit the past 4 years on what Obama has done. He can talk like that all night long, if he wants.

  132. 132.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    “It takes some brass…”

    Paulie’s big blue eyes are gonna have at least one shiner.

  134. 134.

    Elizabelle

    There are two other [statements?] from Tampa that need to be addressed ..

    And Clinton is addressing them, in prime time.

    first, the lie about the $716 billion stolen from the Medicare Trust Fund

    and naming Ryan, twice at least

    “You gotta give him one thing. It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did.”

    Please let the local affiliates be carrying this.

    But there’s more … ah, reopening the beloved donut hole.

  135. 135.

    Smiling Mortician

    “You gotta admit it takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did.” Ha!

    ETA: Shit, y’all are fast.

  143. 143.

    Comrade Luke

    “It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did” will be the quote of the convention.

  146. 146.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @Soonergrunt: Really well said.

    I keep expecting to hear “Now, there seems to be a lot of confusion on this next question, so listen up…”

    People are rapt though. Works completely. Like the best teacher you ever had. Better.

  148. 148.

    Ash Can

    We interrupt this DNC liveblogging to note (if it hasn’t been mentioned here already) that Ohio Sec. of State Jon Husted has been ordered to report to the principal’s office appear in court on 9/13. We return you now to our liveblogging.

  152. 152.

    Jay C

    And WTF are R&R going to do to counter THIS?

    OH JOY – Bill’s going off on the “welfare reform” BS _ tossing it right back in their faces with a smile. And a brick.

  154. 154.

    Comrade Luke

    Clinton makes an arena feel like a small room where he’s talking directly to you. It’s an amazing talent.

  156. 156.

    ? Martin

    Comparing his delivery to the prepare speech is remarkable. He’s following the points quite closely with little additions like the ‘it takes some brass line’. So there’s no way he’s actually following the prompter, yet he’s true to the speech, and this sounds like a natural conversation.

    I’m a good speaker. I give hundreds of talks, often to rooms of hundreds. I help other speakers prepare for talks. I couldn’t do this in a million years. I could try, and you’d see right through it. I’d either veer wildly off and get lost and then track too closely to the speech, I’d lose the crowd and not be able to delver the little jabs that he does. I’d certainly not sound as though I was talking to you individually.

    This is a Colbert-level gift he has. I always knew he was a good speaker, but until I compared to the prepared remarks, I had no idea how good. This is almost impossibly talented.

  161. 161.

    Dave

    Elizabeth Warren should have given a Bill Clinton lesson about Wall Street people demanding favors. She should have been mofo specific. Told a story with numbers.

  163. 163.

    Randy P

    I love how he’s stopping to get wonky stuff across while keeping the rally atmosphere going. “Is everybody clear on this? This is important”

  166. 166.

    Elizabelle

    “We are not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers.”

    And finally I can say — That IS true.

    (First sentence might be first time FoxWorld — the alternative universe — hears of that little claim.)

  167. 167.

    MMM

    Brings back the feelings of “what if” Mr. Gore had not distanced himself from President Clinton…..

  169. 169.

    El Cid

    In 2008 Bill Clinton was still the best at making complex policy notions into some real, appealing, understandable concepts.

  170. 170.

    Peregrinus

    There’s a Twitter account – @ampriorities – that’s asking things like “Do you really believe what this adulterer is telling you?” and whatnot.

    I checked out their site (here) and apparently they have a section where you can contact them to report rumors about Mitt Romney and/or the GOP, and they’ll tell you the truth.

    Am I the only one getting a massive urge to troll the fuck out of this site?

  171. 171.

    ChrisNYC

    It really is a lovely thing, to have faith that you can throw all this wonk at people and they’ll get it. Clinton has it. Pres Obama has it too.

  172. 172.

    joel hanes

    @Maude:

    [ Mitch McConnell is ] rotten to the core.

    Damn. The resemblance to Crabby Appleton had never ocurred to me before, but you’re absolutely right.

  176. 176.

    Elizabelle

    @MMM:

    Yeah, that was tragic. Anyone who wasn’t going to vote for Clinton was not going to vote for Gore, and Clinton has so many talents and fans. Even so, the Supreme Court disgraced us all.

  179. 179.

    Mnemosyne

    @dmsilev:

    I assume abc will bail at some point, but so far not yet.

    I’d be curious to find out if ABC does bail on Clinton. Though ABC did some wingnutty things in 2006 and 2008, I have it on good authority that the current CEO keeps a picture of himself and President Obama on his desk.

  182. 182.

    MikeJ

    @dance around in your bones:

    “How did we get 4 balanced budgets in a row? Arithmetic”

    When your wingnut relatives, like mine, say that the republican congress deserve the credit, tell them, “Bull. Shit.” The Republicans passed a budget he didn’t like and he told them go fuck themselves.

  183. 183.

    RinaX

    Uh oh, he’s slandering Zombie Regan with the debt being exploded in the 12 years prior to him taking office talk!

  186. 186.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @? Martin:

    I always knew he was a good speaker, but until I compared to the prepared remarks, I had no idea how good. This is almost impossibly talented.

    He is really something to watch. A friend of mine does stuff that takes him to the Global Initiative every year, and Clinton’s command of detail — and ability to communicate it broadly — is on display by the shedload. And that’s the kind of detail which isn’t on the standard political syllabus.

  189. 189.

    Elizabelle

    I don’t think Mr. and Mrs. Romney are having a very nice evening, watching all this.

    Rafalca slumbers on, though.

    [ooh — and good on combining arithmetic and values]

    PS: WJC hasn’t mentioned Romney much by name, has he?

  192. 192.

    Mary G

    They are going to be so sorry they started that “Obama isn’t as good as Clinton was” crap. I’ll never understand that tactic.

  195. 195.

    mai naem

    I don’t think he’s using a teleprompter.
    Can we have WJC in like 500 ads. please. Purty please.

  196. 196.

    jp7505a

    The man could convince the passengers to get OUT of the lifeboats on the Titanic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  199. 199.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Elizabelle:

    Rafalca slumbers on, though.

    Paul Ryan is keeping Rafalca up telling stories about his days as a triple crown winning jockey. And thoroughbred.

  201. 201.

    PsiFighter37

    Think he’s starting to wind it up now. Good speech, hope it didn’t get cut by the networks…

  205. 205.

    Nina-the-first

    He did it! Those repubs can’t run (a campaign or anything else), they can’t hide their dirty tricks…..No Voter Suppression! Thx for the superb policy speech Dawg!

  218. 218.

    Elizabelle

    Democrats in Disarray.

    There you go, Adam Nagorney.

    Matt Bai — you called it, didn’t you, buddy?

  219. 219.

    mdblanche

    I need a cigarette.

    I hear a Tom Petty song playing in the background. Think the Democrats will get hit with a cease and desist order too?

  222. 222.

    eric

    there is a reason he is the Big Dog. That was the finest speech (as Martin has noted) that I have ever seen. Speech as techne…that was insane

  225. 225.

    Arm The Homeless

    Mark Shield’s cheek wants to eat his microphone…

    Fuuuuuughhhhhh. Big Dog! I hate that I like the guy.

    I need a smoke

  228. 228.

    dance around in your bones

    @MikeJ:

    I’m so lucky that I don’t HAVE any wingnut relatives (my dad had a stroke and can’t spout wingnut anymore) but I feel for all y’all that DO have them.

    P.S. I loved the way Obama came out to give a man-hug to The Big Dawg and they walked off the stage together.

    This convention has just been stellar so far.

  230. 230.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    Big Dog took the Goopers back behind the woodshed… Man’s still got it, and then some…

  232. 232.

    Comrade Luke

    Using Clinton to debunk the Republicans bullshit directly, point by point, is an interesting game plan.

  233. 233.

    Elizabelle

    @spiffy:

    George Will?

    That reminds me, WJC didn’t have time to get to climate change in his 45 minutes.

    He will just have to do some more speechifying in the coming 9 weeks.

    And:

    DNC secretary: “Because we know that every state counts and every vote is precious.”

    and Alabama chair is talking about voter suppression and dilution.

    Gosh, maybe the MSM will cover it now.

  234. 234.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    Wolf Blizter: best speech he’s seen him give ever, been covering him since 1992 as WH correspondent

    Gergen: If this electorate is still movable, he just moved it.

    I’m stuck with CNN, but so those are the reax so far.

    Edit: Now John King: “Love Clinton or hate him — and now there are lots in the hate column, he was a polarizing guy when he left office, and he’s redeemed himself somewhat since then, but…”

    “Redeemed himself”?

    That guy is such a creep.

  235. 235.

    Soonergrunt

    And now for the roll call, about which nobody cares, except the state delegation chairs, waiting for their moments in the sun.

  237. 237.

    Jay in Oregon

    @Poopyman:
    I was in college when I voted for Clinton both times, and wasn’t really politically minded.

    So I had no idea, or had forgotten, what a fantastic speaker he was. After this speech, I was about ready to throw a pair of panties on the stage for him.

    I don’t think Obama can exactly top that speech; you’d be a fool to try. But I can’t wait to see what he has in store for us.

  238. 238.

    Brachiator

    The media keeps claiming that the parties and the candidates won’t talk about the issues.

    The Big Dog just gave you the issues.

    And he tore apart, just ripped to shreds, the lie that Paul Ryan is a serious man with a serious plan.

    Tore that shit up, threw it on the floor, and kicked it back in the Republican’s faces.

    Big Dog Style.

  240. 240.

    spiffy

    Thank god I switched to cable news. The first thing ABC did was go to George Will who blasted Clinton for being too partisan.

    I’m actually listening to intelligent people speak now.

  241. 241.

    PurpleGirl

    I remember when the roll calls went on forever because of favorite sons and split votes and you had multiple ballots.

  242. 242.

    Elizabelle

    C.C. Goldwater for Arizona:

    “My grandfather wouldn’t recognize the Republican party today. My grandfather believed in the right to privacy, a woman’s right to choose… ” didn’t catch the third …

    Now Arkansas.

  244. 244.

    Seanly

    Watching MSNBC – Douchebag Chuck Todd looks like he haz a sad. GOPper fluffer can DIAF. Seriously, I think Big Dog made Chuck Todd cry.

  246. 246.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    Oh that has to hurt for the conservatives Barry Goldwater’s granddaughter, casting the delegates vote for BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!!

  247. 247.

    eric

    That was a shot across the bow of every public speaker walking the face of the earth, barack too….”I am the Big Dog.” Like Martin, I speak publicly a lot, but I could NEVER EVER EVER fantasize giving that speech.

    as an art form, that was genius.

    that was John Contrane shit right there. that was pure jazz.

  248. 248.

    Elizabelle

    @Seanly:

    I have a sad that you’re watching Chuck Todd.

    Go get a beer or something, dude.

    C-Span has the (interminable) roll call on now.

    California just cast 609 votes; DiFi, Boxer and Pelosi cast them.

    Colorado …

  250. 250.

    ? Martin

    Man, what a lineup of speakers. Michelle, Bill, and Barack. Not to take away from the other brilliant speakers like Duval – but those 3 headliners just destroy anything the GOP can offer up. I think the Dems are going to see a serious bounce out of this. This is really powerful, uplifting stuff.

  252. 252.

    gbear

    There’s a Twitter account – @ampriorities – that’s asking things like “Do you really believe what this adulterer is telling you?” and whatnot.

    That could be my sister. We spent four hours of a five hour drive in silence after she went off about how immoral Clinton was and I shot back that it’s not like republicans didn’t screw around too.

    I should send her an email tomorrow saying ‘Clinton really smacked one out of the park last night, didn’t he?’

    Non-hillarity would follow.

  253. 253.

    Elizabelle

    California and Colorado spotlighting their diversity.

    Wyoming glad it doesn’t have to follow that.

  254. 254.

    MikeJ

    @Soonergrunt:

    And now for the roll call, about which nobody cares, except the state delegation chairs, waiting for their moments in the sun.

    Followed by a half dozen commuters going on about the roll call.

    Roll calls, like fezes, are cool.

  255. 255.

    Sock Puppet of the Great Satan

    That *thud* was the twitching, bloody carcass of the Romney/Ryan campaign hitting the floor.

  259. 259.

    Suffern Ace

    @spiffy: Gawk they suck. They really hate the idea of a democratic party that people appear to like for it’s own sake, not simply for the free drugs and hippy sex.

  262. 262.

    Maeve

    Wow – and I say that just from watching the updates.

    I couldn’t watch it on TV because my dog chewed the remote a few weeks ago- and here in semi-rural Alaska we have no broadcast TV and since the local cable channel switched to HD the only way to watch (with the minimal service 0f $24 which gets you the basic “broadcast” channels) only works with the “cable box” and their supplied remote. Which since my dog chewed (he’d got ahold of it several times but only recently chewed it so it didn’t work) doesn’t work anymore – the only channel I can get is the last one I watched which is CW.

    I was considering dropping all TV to only watch streaming – but (since I live in semi-rural Alaska – not “bush” but not one of the main areas -so my “broadband” which I pay $70 a month for is at least 10 x slower than usual) doesn’t work for streaming video (depending on the technology – it works for Netflix which adjusts to lower bandwidth but not other)

    But anyway – returning to the subject.

    Damn – even just reading the comments – I need a cigarette (and I don’t smoke)

  263. 263.

    Bostondreams

    @? Martin:

    Man, what a lineup of speakers. Michelle, Bill, and Barack. Not to take away from the other brilliant speakers like Duval

    dEval. dEval. dEval.

    your 2016 nominee, so get the spelling right. ;-)

  264. 264.

    Calouste

    I’m watching on the XBOX and they have some interactive voting. One of the questions was whose speech was better, Bill Clinton or Michelle Obama. Clinton won 85-15 or so. And we thought yesterday Michelle was hitting it out of the park.

  265. 265.

    Suffern Ace

    @Mary G: I new they would. It’s what they do. Now wait for the analysis of what the length means, skipping over the substance altogether.

  266. 266.

    Poopyman

    @Mary G: It wouldn’t have been nearly so long if WJC hadn’t had to list a loooong litany of Republican crimes against this nation.

  267. 267.

    SatanicPanic

    Billy! Just catching up, didn’t get to watch it live. The Big Dog killed. I haven’t got to watch/listen to the whole convention, but boy, what an improvement over that funeral party the Republicans put on last week.

  270. 270.

    jl

    I hope Biden continues the BS debunking tomorrow night. Repeat it until our failed corporate media experiment can’t ignore the truth. Won’t be electric theatre, more like a serious convo with your favorite uncle over a beer, but need some variety.

    A lot people will put more faith in Clinton than either on the ticket, but Clinton gives easy soundbites to the media celebs that are instant capsule summaries anyone can understand.

    Brilliant speech.

    And I love the way Clinton made it ‘look, this is personal’ towards the end. The GOP and Beltway BS pissed him off real good.

  271. 271.

    Brachiator

    @Mary G:

    Now all the talking heads are complaining it was way too long.

    Right. Because here on the West Coast, we really want to see “Big Brother.”

    Too bad CBS and other stations think that a tv show is more important than the country. The opportunity for reporters has been severely cut back, and these dopes want to whine about Clinton’s speech being too long.

  272. 272.

    Poopyman

    @Mary G: Lawrence O’Donnell just mentioned that after his longest State of the Union speech which the pundits complained about it going so long, he got his biggest jump in the polls.

    The pundits are idiots, the people have a better grasp of what he says.

  273. 273.

    PurpleGirl

    @John: You caught me, I could have sworn that multiple ballots still occurred later. But I’m quite sure favorite sons were still put into nomination later in time.

  274. 274.

    tBone

    Had to break a long radio silence to say – Hot. Damn. The Dawg abides, man.

    I’ve never seen a 45-minute sandpaper-and-lemon-juice wedgie administered with such joy and precision. R&R are going to be walking funny for weeks.

  277. 277.

    jl

    @spiffy:

    ” George Will who blasted Clinton for being too partisan. ”

    Yeah, too partisan at a political convention. What an asinine thing to say. They are truly running on fumes. Damn GOP PR vehicle about to glide on into the ditch.

    Another good thing about great speeches is that they force the shameless hacks willing to disgrace themselves for money to discredit themselves. The folks who watch those shows will chuckle every time Will opens his mouth over the next few weeks.

  279. 279.

    Cacti

    Clinton just slurped down Ryan’s milkshake, took a bite of his cheeseburger, and belched contemptuously in his direction.

  280. 280.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    Edit: Now John King: “Love Clinton or hate him—and now there are lots in the hate column, he was a polarizing guy when he left office, and he’s redeemed himself somewhat since then, but…”

    He and Choke Todd appear to have digested the idea that Clinton was disgraced and unpopular at the end of his second term, which, of course, is bullshit.

  281. 281.

    SatanicPanic

    I liked that he called the current Republicans a bunch of haters too. Sucks for the right that the guy they keep loudly suggesting Barack Obama should be more like just called them out.

  285. 285.

    Soonergrunt

    Patton Oswalt tweeting just now:
    “Release the Klinton!” — Liam Neeson, earlier this evening at the DNC, I bet

  286. 286.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    Good tweet I just saw: “Bill Clinton should be the Secretary of Explaining Things.”

  288. 288.

    kentropic

    Loved the speech! But the finger-wagging, the alpha-male “after you”-“no, after you” pissing contest to be the last one off the stage and the creepy little blown kiss to somebody in the wings reminded me of his most deeply disappointing behavior while in office.

  290. 290.

    scav

    @tBone: ’ve never seen a 45-minute sandpaper-and-lemon-juice wedgie administered with such joy and precision. R&R are going to be walking funny for weeks.

    When you break radio silence you do it with elan. Excellent.

  291. 291.

    Elizabelle

    Never mind us being pleased with the speech and convention —

    Think of the young people watching this, in their teens and 20s and 30s.

    This convention is cementing a fresh generation of Democrats and people open to supporting Democrats.

    Have never seen such a divide between the demographics and policies on display at the conventions.

    And John King says Bill Clinton was polarizing.

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    kay

    @suzanne:

    The roll call is a lot of fun. In 08, they called in the delegates for the roll call but it was one big security line and we were mixed in. We were afraid we were going to miss it. A media person persuaded the security people to let us cut in line so we could do the voice vote. You do the actual written ballot earlier in the day.
    The reporter was great. He was like “they have to get in there! They have to do this thing!”
    You sort of lose track of the whole point of the excercise, just wandering around, waiting in various lines. We were like “oh, yeah, the VOTING thing!”
    The chairman of the OH Dem Party, Chris Redfern, was hissing at us. “DON’T embarrass me”
    I have no idea what embarrassing thing he thought we were planning. A coup to remove him? I don’t know.

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    MikeBoyScout

    ROLL LANDSLIDE!

    Republican secret weapon; Ann Romney.
    Democratic secret weapon; Arithmetic.

    Team blue rox!

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    spiffy

    Even Matthew Dowd and Steven Schmitt said the speech was great. Schmitt even said he wished the Republicans had someone like Clinton the RNC side.

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    dance around in your bones

    Fuck Chuck.

    Fuck Chuck Todd.

    Just – fuck him – make him squeal like a pig.

    (Sorry, I have been inadvisedly watching him on MSNBC).

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    Poopyman

    : @Elizabelle:

    And John King says Bill Clinton was polarizing.

    John King was dropped on his head as a baby. Nobody who actually saw the speech is going to pay any attention to that empty suit.

    It’s about time somebody “polarized” this campaign by pointing out FACTS.

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    Bill E Pilgrim

    @pseudonymous in nc: They have a hard time distinguishing between “everyone in the country” and “the other handful of Villagers who tell me what to think and vice versa”.

    Clinton’s approval rating when he left office was around 67%. Yeah, “polarizing” as hell, John King.

    “Highest end-of-office approval rating of any U.S. president since World War II” Wikipedia tells me.

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    jl

    @ChrisNYC:

    ” The butthurt tomorrow is going to be delectable! ”

    What happened to the GOP’s amiable Golden Boy of yore?

    I like the crashing GOP memes this campaign. Like a propaganda blitzkrieg turned into a destruction derby.

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    trollhattan

    @Elizabelle:

    California and Colorado spotlighting their diversity.
    __
    Wyoming glad it doesn’t have to follow that.

    Nonsense, Wyoming has both natural gas and coal.

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    Quarks

    Did New Jersey really need to remind us that Washington once fought there?

    I’ve never seen one of these roll calls before. I had no idea they went on so long.

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    J R in WVa

    @Chris:

    But if Reagan had a third term, he would have been totally incompetent due to his dementia. Sad, but true, that he was loosing it during his second term.

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    Anne Laurie

    @WaterGirl:

    I know I should know that reference, but it’s not coming to me.

    “There you go again” — using dull facts, instead of cheerful uplifting lies — is celebrated as one of St. Reagan’s great quotes from his debate with Carter. Clinton didn’t just steal the line, he inverted the wingnuts’ meme about ‘feelings’ being more important in politics than… arithmetic!

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    tBone

    @MikeJ:

    We’d be happy with comments 1/10th as good ten times more often.

    Just when I think I’m out, they pull me back in…

    Too many IRL obligations these days to waste as much time here as I used to, but I’ll probably be popping my head up more as we head into the home stretch of the campaign. Half of my friends and relatives on Facebook love posting drooling RNC propaganda, so I need something to keep me from Eastwooding them.

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