I don’t know if I can handle more than a couple of minutes of David Gregory, but here’s a thread for those of you who can stomach MTP. Spoiler alert, useless candidate is useless:
Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney embraced Bill Clinton’s speech this week at the Democratic National Convention, saying the former president’s speech — which was full of criticism of Romney — helped “elevate” Democrats’ convention.
In his interview airing Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Romney praised the Wednesday night speech by the Democratic ex-president, which ridiculed Romney and Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan on issues ranging from fiscal policy to Medicare.
“He did stand out in contrast with the other speakers; I think he really did elevate the Democrat convention in a lot of ways,” Romney said. “And, frankly, the contrast may not have been as attractive as Barack Obama might have preferred if he were choosing who’d go before him and who’d go after.”
So far, it’s all softballs from Gregory.
Update: Gregory brandishes a “Bin Laden is Dead. GM is Alive” bumpersticker, and Romney lays down his line of bullshit on GM (if only they had gone into bankruptcy when Mitt said to do it, we’d have saved $20 billion). Gregory’s follow-up: “What would the Romney/Ryan bumpersticker be?”. Every reporter should hang their head in shame when this guy is called a journalist.
Now it’s just the very special Mitt/Ann moment telling us how big his heart is. Did I accidentally tune in to E! ?
Update 2: Gregory is just unable to ask a follow up. He asks about Clinton, Mitt gives the answer quoted above, which just begs you to ask about one of the dozens of criticisms Clinton made in that speech, and Gregory’s next question is “what’s it like to be the first Mormon running for President?”
Update 3: Here’s the anachronistic world of MTP. Peggy Noonan is the only person with a vagina so she’s in charge of feelings. Chuck Todd thinks that pointing out that a poll is a “robo poll” is still a ding long after its been shown that some of them are quite good. And Bill Bennett can talk about “values” and nobody laughs. Their world stopped in about 1998.
dr. bloor
Maybe later. Right now, they’re still sleeping off their hangovers from Karl Rove’s cocktail party last night.
jurassicpork
Your daily hypocrisy, starring Barack Obama.
geg6
Man, it must air early where you live, mm. Won’t start here until 10am Eastern.
Not that I’m stepping outta the boat to hang with Dancin’ Dave. I’d rather shove hot pokers into my eyes.
Violet
A thread for Dancin’ Dave and no link to #DavidGregorysToughQuestions? Let’s see how many of them he answers.
c u n d gulag
“Gregory is just unable to ask a follow up.”
In Dancin’ Dave’s defense, it’s tough to ask a follow-up when you have the interviewee’s dick in your mouth, and Rinse-us Enrepeatus’s dick up your ass.
General Stuck
I think that first, Michelle’s speech on defining Obama in more personal terms, and Clinton defining O in political terms of competence, really put the zap on Romney’s head, not to mention his devil dog barkers. So now they are spending time parsing which speech was better than the others.
And it seems via some pollingfu, that Barack’s sober speech was pitch perfect for a glide slope to closing the deal with voters.
I do think that Big Dog’s masterpiece for the first time I can remember, delivered to voters his genuine like and admiration of how Obama has gone about presidenting in the most difficult pol environment in recent history. At least as far as measuring cooperation levels with the nutters. That sits at just about absolute zero.
Oh, and fuck Gregory and the rest of the self important fools not doing their constitutional duty. With the public rating them just above third rate used car salesmen.
Violet
Har, just checked the #DavidGregorysToughQuestions link and saw this one:
“Would you mind it if I call you Money Boo Boo?”
beltane
The only thing Romney will accomplish with this Clinton bullshit is that he’ll prod the Big Dog into opening another can of whoop ass on him, energizing the Democratic base in the process and making himself look like the pathetic loser that he is. How dumb is that.
geg6
FYWP. I’m in moderation for inadvertantly forgetting that a fireplace implement has the same name as a high stakes card game.
Violet
There’s a new Twitter hashtag to follow along: #ActualDavidGregoryQuestions
General Stuck
@jurassicpork:
You know, you keep blog whoring with the firebaggy thing, we might have to put up a red light by your monicker.
beltane
@General Stuck: He’s gotten a lot of hide ratings at GOS these past few days. This may be the only street corner he can still ply his trade on.
Lord Jesus Perm
Ignore the troll. I know we can do it.
Josie
@General Stuck: In my mind, the red light is already there. I have learned not to click.
Violet
@Josie: Me too.
Violet
MTP isn’t showing in my time zone yet. Is Ann there with Mitt the whole time? Or is Mitt on his own for some of it?
dr. bloor
Of course not. It’s not on the list of questions in front of him, silly blogger.
However much or little Dave might be a corporate whore, the one thing that he has made abundantly clear in recent years is that he’s just not very bright.
f space that
@beltane: I don’t get their thinking with Clinton. You are right, this is just going to make Clinton mad. Any Democrat of a certain age will remember the R’s treatment of Clinton and be disgusted by the hypocrisy of the R’s making him their new BFF.
General Stuck
@Josie:
That is likely best. I read so few threads these days. It’s Mostly the drive by troll kind. Hit and run.
WereBear
I have concluded that Romney must be trying to lose. I cannot believe the stuff he says and does now.
When your “not vetting” problem extends to Clint Eastwood, you have serious mental issues. We should be putting Wingnuts in a “home,” not letting them run wild in government.
Besides, I thought they hated it. Doesn’t that negate every single one of their candidates?
geg6
@Lord Jesus Perm:
Well known firebagger links to firebagger whining. Rinse and repeat. Tedious and beside the point in our current political atmosphere. They are Norquist ratfuckers trying to depress enthusiasm. Instead they just look stupid.
dr. bloor
@geg6: Heh. I look forward to that one being cleared and posted.
MattF
What we’re seeing, I think, is that the source of the stupidities of Mitt Romney’s campaign is none other than Mitt Romney. You think, “How can they advise Romney to say that,” or “Someone’s giving the candidate bad advice,” but no– it’s the Mittster himself. He’s incompetent.
Elizabelle
You will never get this hour back, mistermix.
Time and tide, dude.
Anya
This tells us how insecure Mittenz is. He can only think in terms of “will he outshine me?”
Davis X. Machina
@geg6: How do you play ‘andirons’ anyways?
Valdivia
@Anya:
I loathe this man. He is so unctuous. I also truly don’t get what he thinks he is accomplishing by trying to grab on to Clinton. Then again since Gregory is so stupid as to never ask a follow up I guess Mitt is safe in pretending, as all his guys are saying, that Clinton hated giving the speech and hates Obama.
The Ancient Randonneur
Shorter Howdie Doodie: Gee, Mitt, what’s it like to be so rich? And ,,, and … and … So. Ruggedly. Handsome. Gosh, Mitt is it true your blood smells like cologne, and you never say “it tastes like chicken”–not even when you’re eating chicken?
Oh wait, that last one is for the MOST interesting man in the world … sorry.
MikeJ
@General Stuck: I don’t think it has ever posted here that it wasn’t just a blog whore. I generally don’t pie most of the trolls, but the people who post nothing but links back to their blogs go down the hole.
Has it ever replied to anyone? I had halfway decided it was a bot that just automatically spewed crap in response to blog updates.
General Stuck
@Anya:
Mittens is going for the Clintonesque triangulation thang, trying to play dems against each other, and failing miserably at it.
beltane
@Anya: And lest we forget, Mittens himself was outshone by a past-his-prime Hollywood actor. Does he really want to go there?
When do his advisers start advising him “not to think of a donkey”?
Anya
“Prez said u were stuck in cold war time warp. Pretty tough stuff.”
“How do you feel? Are you winning or losing?”
“Mrs Romney, are Mormons less persecuted these days?”
“Are people of your faith proud of you?”
Did Dancing Dave ACTUALLY ask these questions, or is the twitter machine lying to me?
General Stuck
@MikeJ:
Looks like drive by trolling for page hits, which is why Josie and Violet have the right idea. Just ignore
Jennifer
“Well, Dave, since I’m running on the Republican ticket, it’s actually no different from being a non-Mormon – you’re sucking my dick just as enthusiastically.”
Valdivia
@Anya:
noooooo. It can’t be, did he really ask that? Next up: can I shine your shoes? Touch your broad shoulders?
Jennifer
@beltane: Hell, Mittens was outshone by the empty chair.
MattW
Gregory’s giving an interview, for Pete’s sake, not a convention speech. When you give an interview you go through a laundry list. You don’t talk about the things that you think are important.
KCinDC
@WereBear, at this point I’m trying to figure out if the whole campaign could be some kind of investment scam. Maybe he’s decided he won’t get the opportunity to “bust out” the country as a whole, so he might as well run the scheme on a smaller scale by busting out his campaign? Not sure why wealthy donors would go along, though.
JPL
Mistermix has another update. Bill Bennett is on the panel to talk about values…yuk!
Dedc79
To ask a follow up you need to have researched the topic and learned enough to recognize a bs answer and expose it as such with the additional questioning. It’s called journalism and David Gregory doesn’t have the time/patience/brains for it.
Anya
@Valdivia: He didn’t even challenge any of Clinton’s charges. Does that mean they were valid? A skilled politician would have complimented Clinton for his skills but also challenged his charges. WTF is wrong with this man?
@General Stuck: Politico is trying so hard to focus on a Clinton/Obama feud, but it’s going to be a huge fail.
@beltane ~ I rock will outshine Mittenz.
JohnnyMac
“And, frankly, the contrast may not have been as attractive as Barack Obama might have preferred if he were choosing who’d go before him and who’d go after.”
These guys really have no concept of “team effort” do they?
Jennifer
@JohnnyMac: Neither would you, if your entire belief system relied on the notion that everything you’ve accomplished you did on your own, with no help from anyone else. Randian supermen don’t need no stinkin’ help from no team.
Josie
@Anya: Exactly. Also, I am a bit confused by his reasoning here. What makes him think that the president did not choose who went before and after him? The convention speakers were so beautifully scheduled and coordinated that it was obviously no accident.
General Stuck
And live from the Standup Comedian In Chief.
MattF
Kinsley on Bennett:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/readme/2003/05/bill_bennetts_bad_bet.html
None of this ‘both sides do it’ or ‘on the other hand’ stuff.
MikeJ
@Dedc79:
To ask a followup you have to recognize that other people exist and actually listen to what they’re saying rather than waiting for their mouth hole to stop flapping so you can talk again.
TS
@f space that:
Clinton is white – reminds the base that Mitt is also white
lamh35
Was there really not one question on tax returns?
Cervantes
Not exactly anachronistic: MTP was created by a woman — a conservative radio journalist.
lamh35
The big story should be that Ryan & Romney are contradicting each other. Ryan saying he supports Prez 2014 Afghan time table, Romney not so much
Gin & Tonic
@lamh35: The tax return issue is deader than Jimmy Hoffa. Willard will never release them and nobody will ask about them. He toughed it out, and it’s over.
Villago Delenda Est
@JPL:
Aaaaaanndd off we go into the Twilight Zone, as the guy who can’t stop himself from pulling a one armed bandit arm has the pure chutzpah to speak about “values”.
Randy P
@MikeJ: Oh yeah. I’ve seen threads completely hijacked when 10-15 people got into a back and forth with porkie.
WereBear
Romney is the Infomercial Candidate.
Blanket the airwaves with ads, lie about the product’s capabilities, rely on pitchmen and actors, avoid the customer service line… only in his case, they don’t even tell you what the product will do!
Randy P
@MikeJ: Oh yeah. I’ve seen threads completely hijacked when 10-15 people got into a back and forth with porkie.
Dennis SGMM
Has Gregory asked Romney why he took on the electorally unhelpful Ryan and then tried to walk away from Ryan’s budget proposals?
Dedc79
@MikeJ: Fair point, that’s what happened with the guy who questioned akin when he gave the rape comment. He admitted he was so busy checking off the questions he had wanted to ask that he missed the significance of the answer. Gregory is no better.
dmsilev
The intertubes are telling me that Romney says he wants to keep “the good parts” of Obamaacare. So much for “repeal it on day one”.
Do you think Erick of the house of Erick is sitting at home right now weeping quietly and eating ice cream directly from the tub?
lamh35
@Gin & Tonic: Tax return issue is not dead. Mark my words, the media will try to forget if, but u beat believe that the debates will have a question about tax policies. I suspect Obama to hit Romney o them & the Obama camp know what in them. Too many people have seen them
Steve
@TS: That’s probably it. Otherwise the Republican base would be straining to remember, “Wait, did we nominate a white guy this time?”
gbear
A news panel with Peggy Noonan, Chuck Todd, Bill Bennett, and David Gregory? Who on earth needs to hear what this group of people can come up with? Sounds extra-specially godawful.
General Stuck
OT
This bullshit line is really starting to piss me off, beyond laughing at the wingnuts stupidity of letting themselves get punked by Obama over the whole ‘deal ceiling deal”
The past 4 years we have heard nothing but screams from the right wing about deficits, debts, and the need for austerity level spending cuts to fix what ails the economy. And now the dipshits can’t quit whining about the deal that they first promoted to settle the asinine and very dangerous game of chicken being played by House teatards, with defaulting on our debts.
Now, they are whining and lying and being generally unfit to govern asshats. It does expose them for really not caring about debt and deficit spending, for which their only motivation is to gut The New Deal, and privatize it. But then we already knew that. So they conjure up more Orwellian hypocrite terms like, going over the “fiscal cliff” for cutting spending they have been nonstop preaching for. Clowns.
Villago Delenda Est
@Gin & Tonic:
It’s not over until we say it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
jrosen
In re Bill Bennett:
William Bennett
The Bookie of Virtue
“Casino documents show Bennett is a ‘preferred customer’ in at least four venues in Atlantic City and Las Vegas…His favorite games: video poker and slot machines. He has a revolving line of credit of at least $200,000 at each casino…”
AP dispatch, May 2,2003
The man who sold a million books has bucks and bucks to spare.
He taught us all what Virtue is and really didn’t care
When at the Trump Casino by the boardwalk of great fame
He’d dropped a ton, while having lots of fun in Virtue’s game.
Ah, virtue! How thy name is praised and honored in the breach
And how I love to hear Bill Bennett bloviate and preach
And take the money when his tomes are selling really well
And hand it to a one-armed bandit wired for sound in hell.
Now, Bill, I heard you say that you can easily afford
Your losses when you pull the lever. Really? Praise the Lord!
Miraculous indeed that what’s a vice that all should dread
Becomes, if you have scratch enough, a harmless prank instead.
I grant that I’m not famous for my wisdom or my looks
But there are things a person knows without expensive books :
So if I had such money I would have sufficient wit
To find some use more virtuous than slot-machines for it,
Like AIDS research, or homes for battered women, or good schools
Where all of us were firmly taught that all must honor rules,
Including you, the Virtue Czar, but who am I to say?
I guess I’m just not smart enough to live Bill Bennett’s way.
scav
@f space that: Only thing about the Clinton thing that makes sense to me (and there is probably exactly where I’m having my trouble) is that there are some internal numbers they’re trying to move about the Repukes being perceived as the source of gridlock and so they’re trying to show they can be bipartisan if only they had the “proper” Dems to be bipartisan with (Bill’s easy as he’s in the rearview mirror and all the other things). It’s Blame-shifting. Or Baffling. Both work.
dr. bloor
@Gin & Tonic: I’d agree with this, but the issue served its purpose. The Obama campaign got a fair amount of mileage out of that in terms of shaping the public’s perceptions of Romney during the dog days, and keeping the Romney campaign off-balance and off-message.
lamh35
I look forward to Rachel, Rev Al, Lawrence O & Ed Schultz talking up this crap feat interview on MTP. If they were to be honest they’d admit this interview was useless, big nope I fully expect them to join with their corp & lavish at the very least tepid praise & no criticism of Gregory, in this, they are good little network soldiers
Villago Delenda Est
@dmsilev:
Only as a prelude to slashing his wrists, and thus bumping the average IQ of the entire planet by at least 10 points.
dr. bloor
@WereBear: He’s a floor wax and a dessert topping.
bago
@KCinDC: Given that you can keep contributions, after Citizens United, this may be the biggest scam in history. The guy knows how to talk to MBAs, get capital, and dodge responsibility, and always collect the check.
Hypothetically, the scam works like this:
1. Throw in some groundwork like a failed run.
2. Lose the nomination.
3. Citizens United = Opportunity.
4. Win the second nomination.
5. Get unlimited donations from billionaires.
6. Profit.
Seriously, there are only so many ads you can buy.
Newt got to play with 20-30 million in other people’s cash? Talk about an investment opportunity.
marv
@General Stuck:
What you said (post no. 6, I think). You know how you can get crazy when you think something’s completely obvious and not on the internets and then somebody else says it better than you could and you feel like you can just relax and go take a walk out back on a really beautiful day? Like that
Dennis SGMM
@General Stuck:
I followed the link and, oddly enough, Romney expressed no criticism of House Republicans for their willingness to play chicken with national default while holding the debt ceiling hostage. It seems not to have occurred to him that if they’d sat down at the table and bargained like adults the sequester wouldn’t have been needed.
TS
@Steve:
whatever – but in my view Romney praising Clinton is to explain to whoever wants to listen that it is the white guy with the ideas and good talk – not the President. I find Romney’s talk very similar to that of Sarah Palin, always attacking the person, not the policy.
gbear
I hope he gets the tub to a point where he can drown himself in it.
Villago Delenda Est
@bago:
The other aspect to the scam is to create your own corporation to provide ad buy services, bumper stickers, lapel buttons, yard signs, phone banking, book hotels and transportation, and all the other things that go with a political campaign for your own campaign. Included in this is “overhead and fees” and such, and there you go, you’re siphoning that campaign cash directly into your pocket.
It’s quite the scam, and you see guys like the deserting coward, Gingrich, and the Quitta from Wasilla using it as a means of personally profiting from their own political efforts.
geg6
Corey Booker is kicking ass and taking names on This Week with George Stephanopoulis’ Hair. He called out Cokie, Rand Paul AND George Will.
Awesome. Maybe ABL has stiffened his spine.
peej
I’m looking forward to Charlie Pierce’s evisceration of Dancin’ Dave’s house party in his blog tomorrow.
General Stuck
@General Stuck:
And here is a link that shows it was Mcconnell who came up with the idea of a Supercommittee.
So when Romney says this to The Hill yesterday.
and this
He is lying through his teeth.
J R in WVa
Regarding the question “Hopw does it feel to be the first Mormon running for President?” – I am not a political reporter at all, but even I know that Mr Rmoney’s father George ran for President once upon a time.
Wasn’t George Romney also a Mormon? And didn’t he have ethics? Offering up 12 years of tax returns? Far exceeding his ethics-free son Willard?
What a pathetic excuse for a
reporterhuman being this TV star is! He deserves his relationship with Mittens and the other Repugnants, no real human would willingly associate with him.Ivan Ivanovich Renko
@jurassicpork: If you can’t take their money, drink their whiskey, screw their women, and vote against ‘em anyway, you don’t belong in politics.
Donut
@MikeJ:
Dave is obviously a quantity guy, not quality. I mean, he has to fill up all that air time with talking! It’s hard work. Hard, Randian Superman work! You just don’t understand.
Chris
@General Stuck:
Maybe we should return the favor. No, wait, let’s not. We’ll never do as good a job of it as Mittens will all on his own.
Villago Delenda Est
@General Stuck:
Fuckin’ McConnell. Abandoning his duty as a member of Congress to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Typical.
tomvox1
@jurassicpork:
#Fail
honus
@f space that: After reading Charles Pierce’s piece on Harry Truman’s 1948 convention speech I remembered my mother’s comments on how the republicans hated and vilified Truman mercilessly at the time, and her amazement at their admiration of him in recent years. It took about 35 years after he left office before the republicans began complimenting HST. Amazing that their party is bereft of leaders that it only took about 12 years to get there with Clinton.
Romney really is an unbelievably tone-deaf politician. Big Dog isn’t going to miss that cheap rude “Democrat” convention slur either.
Steve
@geg6: You think it was his spine?
Jennifer
@lamh35: Not only is it not dead, but Larry Flynt is offering a bounty for the returns, as well as info on Mitt’s overseas bank accounts, etc. Yes, he may be a skeevy pornographer, but he’s OUR skeevy pornographer!
Also, too: there’s this; someone is claiming to have the records already and is threatening to release them if they don’t get a $1 million payoff. May just be a hoax; then again, it may not.
This issue, she isn’t going away.
Kathy in St. Louis
This David Gregory twitter thing is really going to hurt him. Really, really. It’s one thing for “the libs” to all think that he’s inept and voice it over and over. It’s an entirely different matter for the news department of a major network to become a laughing stock due to their awful choice of moderators on one of their big shows. I’d love to know who started the David Gregory “tough questions” twitter. I need to send someone a thank you note.
tomvox1
@JohnnyMac:
Maybe that’s why Mitt picked Clint to go before him–it did make him seem slightly more coherent than an octogenarian screen icon babbling at an empty chair…
General Stuck
@General Stuck:
Even more proof.
divF
A big “Thank You” to mistermix for watching this tripe so that the rest of us don’t have to.
I have this image of the BJ front-pagers drawing straws to figure out who gets the scut duty of watching the R’s and their sycophants perform this time.
MikeJ
@J R in WVa:
You could argue that his father ran for the nomination and lost. Mitt’s the first Mormon to actually get the nomination.
Chris
@J R in WVa:
A friend of mine posted an FDR speech on my Facebook wall, the one where he’s basically saying “don’t trust those Republicans who say ‘Of course we like the safety net, we just think we can do it better!'” My response: “Actually, the really sad thing is that there used to be Republicans who said those things, meant them, and followed up on them when in office. And George Romney was one of them.”
f space that
@honus: Good point. I seem to remember St. Ronald invoking FDR from time to time.
Donut
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/nbc-news-execs-deny-david-gregory-is-out-at-meet-the-press/2012/07/05/gJQATBTLQW_blog.html
Read the link and take heart:
Dave ain’t broadcasting to a lot of eyes these days, and there have been rumblings he might get chucked from MTP.
Jennifer
@Kathy in St. Louis: Yes. Look at Tucker Carlson. He went from a CNN host to second-string Breitbart, almost entirely because Jon Stewart called him a dick on national TV.
different-church-lady
OT: I think we now know why TBogg went to FDL — it’s so he could taunt them from the inside.
peej
@Donut: Having the host of your Sunday morning news show being mocked mercilessly on Twitter is not conducive to his longevity.
Villago Delenda Est
@Donut:
I won’t be fully satisfied until Dancin’ Dave is rightsized into his appropriate broadcast role, that of asking “do you want fries with that?”
Steve
@Chris: I think a lot of people have probably seen that FDR bit, but for those who haven’t, it’s only 1 minute and it’s a classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3RHnKYNvx8
Roger Moore
@General Stuck:
The World Clown Association would like for you to stop blackening their good name by associating them with Republicans.
Dennis G.
I had not watched MTP in years. I’ve listen to it from time to time on C-span radio, but watching it is a different experience. Words will always fail when you to to describe just how horrible David Gregory. Weak is perhaps the best word, but many others come to mind as well.
When it began decades ago, MTP was a show where Washington politicians faced a panel of editors and political reporters every week. The politician never knew who they might face and questions were harder as a result. Eventually the news readers who moderated the show took over and pushed the journalists out. That devolved to Russert and has now sunk to Gregory.
If NBC wanted to save the program from extinction they should ditch the news reader era and try something else. Returning to a panel of local reporters might work. OTOH, if they needed a “host”, then I think they should go with Ezra Klein. His depth of knowledge about the issues along with his team at WonkBlog would make MTP a place where any guest would have to bring their “A” game. Real journalism would be a feature of the Sunday shows and others would have to up their game. And so, it will never happen.
suzanne
@geg6: @geg6:
I don’t think that’s what she stiffened.
They make such a cute couple.
Villago Delenda Est
@Dennis G.:
DING DING DING DING DING
Nope, won’t ever happen. Real journalism isn’t want GE wants from its infotainment subsidiary.
SiubhanDuinne
@J R in WVa:
Mo Udall ran quite a strong campaign in 1976. He would have made a good President.
CarolA
Romney says “the Democrat convention” – it’s “the Democratic convention”. Whenever I hear someone do this, I immediately think how ignorant they sound and I shut down to whatever else they want to say.
PurpleGirl
@f space that: There are an estimated $40 Million reasons not to believe the Rs now really like either of the Clintons.
beltane
@CarolA: If Romney thinks he will appeal to Clinton fans by saying “Democrat convention” we shouldn’t do anything to dissuade him of this belief.
Violet
@Donut:
I’ve been wondering if they might consider replacing him with Soledad O’Brien. She’s been getting a lot of good press for holding political types’ feet to the fire. A female host of mixed race background would bring a different dynamic. She used to work at NBC, I think.
PurpleGirl
“And, frankly, the contrast may not have been as attractive as Barack Obama might have preferred if he were choosing who’d go before him and who’d go after.”
But there were no speakers after President Obama…
Donut
@Dennis G.:
Don’t disagree with you Dennis, but they would have a hard time booking Republocan guests if they let an actual journalist and/or wonk host the show. Without Republicans dominating the show, they are instantly open to charges of bias, which is terrifying to network news departments.
WaterGirl
@General Stuck: MIchelle made it about character, Big Dog made it about competence.
character & competence
Obama has both. Romney has neither.
Mandalay
@CarolA:
By all means shut down to whatever Romney has to say, but I suspect that he deliberately said “the Democrat convention”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
ppcli
“I think he really did elevate the Democrat convention in a lot of ways”
Yep, nothing says “I care about elevating the tone” like using “Democrat convention” two words later.
WaterGirl
@TS: Yep, that’s what I think every time Romney says something about Clinton.
Bill Clinton may have been the “first black president”, but at least he had the courtesy to be white.
CarolDuhart2
@Dennis G.: I’d go further-rotating hosts as well with maybe someone on call if nobody accepted. That would be like Saturday Night Live in a way-see who can moderate a show each week.
jp7505a
I’m really developing a strong dislike of the Romney’s, esp Ann, as people not just as members of the other party. Ann’s constant whining about how unfair her life has been because of her MS and how she ‘feels the pain’ of the little people is getting very very OLD. There really is a difference between worrying about being able to afford your MS meds and worrying about the cost of shoes for your dancing horse.
Maybe if she just said’ yes we are rich and have been able to blunt some of the consequences of life’s hard knocks. We can’t really ‘feel’ the pain but we can work to put in place programs that help to blunt those consequences for others less fortunate ‘ I would be a bit more sympathetic.
As I have mentioned in other comment threads, my late wife and I have been there and done that with MS. For a number of reasons we were fortunate that my job and its medical plan help blunt some of those rough edges but it was a constant worry that we were one paycheck away from disaster. When my job moved 500 miles away from our support network there really was no choice but to follow the job.
CarolA
@Mandalay: I know it’s deliberate – they do it all the time. I was commenting on how ineffective it is for me whenever I hear them do it.
chonchito
@Dennis SGMM:
Shouldn’t someone ask whether Romney agrees that the debt ceiling will need to be lifted again in 2013 and that he will ask foe the ceiling to be raised? When he refuses to give a yes or no answer, shouldn’t there be a follow up? Has anyone asked this already?
chonchito
@Dennis SGMM:
Shouldn’t someone ask whether Romney agrees that the debt ceiling will need to be lifted again in 2013 and that he will ask foe the ceiling to be raised? When he refuses to give a yes or no answer, shouldn’t there be a follow up? Has anyone asked this already?
Ruckus
@General Stuck:
He is lying through his teeth.
I think by now most of us know that if his lips are moving the only thing coming out are lies.
It’s a safe bet, it has house odds, and oh, it has house money as well.
Chris
@chonchito:
This.
There’s something incredibly nuts about the fact that a bunch of people now have it in their heads that the DC needn’t be raised.
Ruckus
@Donut:
Dave ain’t broadcasting to a lot of eyes these days, and there have been rumblings he might get chucked from MTP.
Hey! I’m looking for a job.
I’m not that photogenic, I don’t suck dick, I swear like a fucking sailor, I’ve never worked in TV but have had a camera pointed at me in the course of my job, I’m an old(er) white guy. OK now the downside, I’m a democrat and proud of it.
Cacti
The first Mormon to run for president was none other than Joseph Smith himself.
HRA
“He didn’t even challenge any of Clinton’s charges. Does that mean they were valid? A skilled politician would have complimented Clinton for his skills but also challenged his charges. WTF is wrong with this man?”
There is not enough room to list what is “wrong with this man” and/or to keep up with his reinvention of self. His mind would be an ongoing challenge for those in the field of psychology.
There has been a contest on whether my mouth would fall open or my eyelids pop open higher whenever I hear or read the newest pitch from either Mitt or Ann. Today’s new message about Obamacare from Mitt did both.
Obama/Biden 2012
LanceThruster
@ppcli:
I think the term Republicurs should be used on a regular basis until that time they learn the name of the Democratic party and its proper use in different parts of speech (i.e. he or she is a Democrat in the Democratic party).
The cur part has its own applicable meaning —
Definition of CUR
1: a mongrel or inferior dog
2: a surly or cowardly fellow
Archie Bunker: I’m gonna get on the blower here and call that Reverend Fletcher! Edith Bunker: Felcher. Archie Bunker: Whatever!
jimmiraybob
Oops, a typo. I think that you meant 1098.
There was, after all, once a time that a prince or a king or a pope could make decisions without considering the peasants.
Yutsano
@suzanne: Hang on a second…ABL “missed” her flight to LA and got “stranded” in NYC and “crashed” at a friend’s place…there are pieces here people!
Amir Khalid
Paul Ryan repeats a lie already debunked countless times.
Yes, I know: no one will be the least bit surprised.
Jay S
Seems to me the David Gregory interview might be the GMA Palin interview of 2010. When you can’t handle a nerf ball from Gregory, what can you do?
Jay S
@Jay S: I was moderated? What did I say?
xian
@Anya: of course he did choose the order, unlike mitt whose handlers mismanaged his convention for him. i smell more projection.
dww44
@lamh35: Tis a difficult line they have to walk, particularly Rachel, since her obvious talents and oft stated desire to interact with the opposites gets her invited on MTP and the like.
After reading the comments thus far, as well as the post, it has occurred to me that perhaps NBC is trying pretty hard to offset the left leaning MSNBC shows by tilting right significantly on its broadcast news shows. Look at the panel of folks that Gregory assembled. And, I read somewheres in the last few days that Brian Williams refuses to be a part of Rachel’s or Al or Ed’s shows because they are just so AWFULLY partisan.
xian
@dmsilev: checked the redstate sewage pipe and crisis on infinite ericks is doubling down on his Vagina Monologues misogynist slur.
xian
@Cacti: to be fair Dave probably meant as a major-party nominee.
Yutsano
@Amir Khalid: I heard water is still wet too.
SamR
@Jennifer: Actually, he went from CNN co-host to having his own show b/c Stewart called him a dick, and he somehow convinced MSNBC that he would have those type of controversy-generating moments all the time.
Of course that didn’t happen, and his show flopped, but the Stewart moment actually go him a promotion.
dww44
@CarolA: Not out of ignorance, imo it’s done on purpose. It has long been done across the conservative spectrum and it’s done specifically to irritate. The best response is to use the word “Republic”, as in the “Republic Party”. Seriously, let’s start a movement. Replace Repubican with Republic.
El Cid
@LanceThruster: Republifreaks. Teabirchers. Republiconfederates.
Gee
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