Hi. My name is John Cole, and allegedly I post here.
Once again, I want to apologize for being so AWOL the past couple of days. I was just wiped out from the convention, recovered all day Sunday, watched the Stillers shit the bed last night, and then I had meetings today I had to go to. I have more meetings early in the morning tomorrow, so I am staying with Brian and Tammy, but I promise I will post some convention thoughts soon. Being out of town for a week just really put me behind the eight ball, but I will be back to speed and posting normally in no time. Yeah, yeah, the check’s in the mail, I’ll respect you in the morning, etc.
In the meantime, I thought this was great:
There are lots of ways for Obamabots to answer the question “Are you better off than you were fours years ago?” Some note that Jersey Shore is dead and Arrested Development is alive. Others point to the improving employment picture. Joe Biden puts it most piquantly: “Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive.” But who deserves credit for these events?
According to a Public Policy Polls survey of Ohio voters, 38% of Ohio Republicans say Barack Obama is most responsible for the bin Laden’s death, 15% say Romney, and 47% were unsure. The results were similar in North Carolina, where 29% of Republicans said Obama deserves more credit, versus 15% Romney and 56% unsure.
I love wingnuts.
*** Update ***
Family photo- Brian, Tammy, Charlie (white), Samantha:
Who is that bridge troll with the hot blonde and two dogs?
Here is dinner:
Marinated flank steak, roasted new potatoes, sauteed mushrooms, roasted brussell sprouts, and a salad caprese with tomatoes from my garden. And now it is wine-thirty.
redshirt
I’m afraid of these people in many ways, though they sure are great to make fun of.
khead
You should’ve stopped at every exit from Huntersville to Wytheville just to set those folks on the right path.
I know it’s Virginia – but you work with what ya got. There are plenty of Sheetz along I-77 and I-81.
Maxwel
Notice that only half to a third of their morons voted Romney. I would think Donald Duck would get 10%.
Ms. D. Ranged in AZ (formerly IrishGirl)
Dammit, Cole! My life is empty without you. You must post, tout de suite.
SiubhanDuinne
John, I followed the convention on teepee and through your and ABL‘s posts. Get some rest, spoon with the piglets, be a douchewhisperer to the drunken fratboys, and post when you feel like it.
You’ve got 15 minutes.
Ben Franklin
Juan Cole?
jeffreyw
Smoked tomatoes! Who knew?!? LOL
SiubhanDuinne
@SiubhanDuinne:
TeeVEE. Tee-fucking-VEE. Not teePEE.
What the FUCK is wrong with you, WordPress?? For fuck’s sake.
Linda Featheringill
What’s with the high percentage of “aren’t sure”? I find it difficult to believe that they just don’t know. They are probably hiding behind that choice so they won’t have to admit what they realize.
Mary
Sadly I feel like I know every single one of these Ohio wingers. I can’t wait for the election to be done. And to have six months before we start the next round of political ads.
Spaghetti Lee
Voting question-I screwed it up in 2010 and would rather not screw it up this time. I’m a resident of Illinois and am registered to vote in Illinois, but I’m currently attending college in Missouri. The way I understand it, I mail an application for an absentee ballot to my local county government in IL, they approve it and mail me back a ballot, and I fill out the ballot and mail that back to them by election day?
Also: An OFA guy came to my apartment yesterday looking to register people to vote. I told him I was registered in Illinois, and he said I can register in Missouri and that cancels my Illinois registration, or something. The two state governments coordinate to get rid of duplicates. Is that true? If I did want to pursue that, should I find an OFA office or could I just register at a library or something? (Also, if OFA is going to student housing in rural Missouri, is MO closer for Obama than I think it is?)
Gravenstone
@SiubhanDuinne: Actually, given most of what passes for television “entertainment”, there is a diminishing difference between TV and TP. Both are for shit.
arguingwithsignposts
The Fuck? I don’t even … Howzit … What’s it … The Fuck?
Steve
They couldn’t even get to 27%! That tells you something.
Comrade Jake
How do they think Romney killed OBL? By crashing the motherfucking plane York thinks he’s flying?
Spaghetti Lee
“Well, y’see…that Romney feller, he probably scared Bin Laden. Cause everyone knows that heathen Arabs are scared of rich, successful businessmen. In the blood. Anyhow, yeah, Romney probably deserves more credit.”
Joshua Norton
I promise I will post some convention thoughts soon.
Take you time. The first 50 repsonses will probably be about your pants and we’ve already been thru that twice so far.
Liquid
As a born-and-raised Seattlite my first act, after seizing power, will be to drop a MIRV on Pittsburgh.
Linda Featheringill
About the DNC:
Promises, promises.
But I’ll admit that I don’t have any basis for complaints since this trip didn’t cost me anything. Some other folks, though, got cheated.
Violet
Welcome back, Cole. You have been missed.
dexwood
@arguingwithsignposts: ankle-deep end of the gene pool, gotta be…
Spaghetti Lee
My name is John Cole, and allegedly I post here.
Hey man, we’ve all got problems.
rikyrah
glad to hear back from you, Cole.
Davis X. Machina
@Spaghetti Lee: You pay tuition there, live in a dorm there, you get to vote there — but only there. Residency for tuition purposes is seperate. Whether the states co-ordinate shouldn’t matter, and you can re-register back in Illinois for another election, should you return there.
Symm v. United States, 439 U.S. 1105 (1979)
Fair Elections Network.
RSA
Idiots. They’re getting Romney confused with Paul Ryan.
Bruce S
“Low information” doesn’t even begin to describe the mental challenges these folks are struggling with. I’m thinking maybe – given climate change, et al – we should start charging them for oxygen. Fuck the meteor – we need those death panels ASAP.
SamR
That’s more, not most, responsible. PPP asked “who’s more responsible for OBL’s death, OBama or Mittens?”
SRW1
Romney has lost about half of the 27%ers? Dude is doomed!
mclaren
Seriously, Romney’s screwing the pooch by asking “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?” Anyone remember how totally fucked the world economy was when Obama took over? The whole world financial system had seized up. The U.S. economy was in the shitter.
Things may not be great right now, but, damn! It’s sure as hell better than the shitstorm the drunk-driving C student from Texas left us.
Rekster
This column in the LA Times fits right in with the Romney killed OBL meme. Post Truth Politics
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-paul-ryan-post-truth-politics-20120910,0,5714446.story
Faux News
Oh the 47% and 56% “unsure” are just in the middle of a massive denial. Now the two 15 percenters are something REAL special. It takes a massive amount of cognitive dissonance to go Full Retard and claim that Romney had anything to do at all with the death of Bin Laden.
Steve
@Spaghetti Lee: Unless Illinois and Missouri have some unique sort of deal, they probably don’t “coordinate,” but it doesn’t matter. It’s not illegal to be registered in two places at once, and in fact it happens to most everyone who moves to another state – as long as you only vote in one place, of course!
However, if you do register and vote in Missouri, and you go back to Illinois in the future, you’d want to confirm that your registration is still valid instead of just assuming.
The Dangerman
Wow, way to represent Cincinatti.
I’ll try to recap it in my best Jon Gruden imitation: “Well, they’ve played like what happens when I hit the head prior to the game; it’s a little thing I like to call taking a dump.”
WaterGirl
I say this in an office today:
THINK before you speak:
– is it true?
– is it helpful?
– is it inspiring?
– is it necessary?
– is it kind?
If I follow that, I may never get to post here again.
hueyplong
I can’t even figure out what would give someone the idea to ask a question including an option to say Mitt Romney had something to do with OBL’s demise.
But then again, for all I know Huckabee has a history comic book that credits Ronald Reagan with nuking Imperial Japan in 1945.
burnspbesq
@Liquid:
You’d better hope that MIRV has at least three separately targetable warheads, because I’m going to use my super-powers to divert one to Chapel Hill and one to Lexington, KY.
Emma
@jeffreyw: Jesus, Jeffrey. Now I’m hungry!
Chris
15% of people, a full 15%, think ROMNEY can be credited for Osama’s death. I’m sorry, dud I read that right? The SEALs of “the military” or the Republicans in Congress or hell, even George W. Bush I understand, but Romney? That makes NO sense. Even by wingnut standards, that percentage should have been zero.
arguingwithsignposts
I don’t know how much I like the phrasing of the question. It’s sort of like asking “Which is more responsible for daylight – the sun or a chicken sandwich?
Sure, some idiots will go with the chicken sandwich because they hate yellow, but nothing is going to change those people’s minds – they’re insane.
Narcissus
So a certain percent of the winger population is willing to say Mitt Romney is responsible for killing OBL because they’re that dedicated to pissing off liberals. I don’t know how else to understand this.
Spaghetti Lee
@The Dangerman:
I’m still wondering how Cincy got the playoffs last year going 0-4 against the top two teams in their division, and how the hell they’re going to do it again.
Old Dan and Little Ann
I clicked on the Public Policy Polling link and saw this.
Q15 Who do you think deserves more credit for the
killing of Osama bin Laden: Barack Obama or
Mitt Romney?
Barack Obama 63%
…………………………………………
Mitt Romney 6%
…………………………………………….
Not sure 31%
I don’t know where the numbers from the block quote originated from.
Hal
I’m going to be nice here and guess the majority just don’t want to say anything even remotely positive about Obama so they just say they’re unsure.
The Dangerman
@Chris:
It was probably a touch tone response and the assholes kept on hitting the number for Romney without listening to the question.
Maude
@Spaghetti Lee:
Find the board of elections in your area online. They have the info and forms you can download if you need.
Villago Delenda Est
@Bruce S:
I don’t know. The processing backlog is going to be, ahem, killer.
However, hiring for the death panels to deal with the 15% of Ohio Repugs polled will make a significant dent in the unemployment rate, so there’s that.
SatanicPanic
Pfft, .00001% of the state of California believes that SatanicPanic was responsible for killing OBL.
khead
@jeffreyw:
Thanks for fucking up my pizza night for the next few weeks.
WaterGirl
@The Dangerman: That makes a lot of sense!
WaterGirl
Miss your viewpoint Cole. Looking forward to your return!
muddy
@Faux News:
He did it retroactively.
? Martin
Heh. According to Maddow, there’s an emergency court order in Iowa to purge voter rolls, one that allows anonymously reports against people for voter fraud.
How horrible a person am I that I REALLY want to report my Republican mom?
Hill Dweller
Dan Rather was on Maddow and said David Gregory did a good job during his interview with Romney. Then he topped that foolishness by suggesting Obama nor Romney are good at talking to the American people.
srv
Anyone seen Too Tall Sarah?
Worried Merkel had her killed or something.
Yutsano
@Liquid:
Debbie(Aussie)
Is there a 27 somewhere in those figures?
Oh and how on FSM green earth could Rmoney be responsible(for anything)?
WaterGirl
Cole, did you see BGinCHI’s offer to live blog the teacher’s strike in Chicago?
Please please please take him up on it!
Villago Delenda Est
@Hill Dweller:
I don’t know what is wrong with Rather. He’s gone way around the bend. He’s in Reagan in 1988 country right now.
jeffreyw
@khead: Sorry! Can I help ya out any?
clayton
@Linda Featheringill: WHAT?!?!?!?
? Martin
@WaterGirl: Seconded!!!
Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn
Well, Cole, considering the last thing you posted was how much you hate us motherfuckers, I don’t think there was any real clamor for more.
In other news, I think I may like the Broncos’ Manning era over and above the fact it shut down the Sideshow Tebow era.
Cacti
@Hill Dweller:
Villagers are worse than cops when it comes to covering each other’s asses.
Narcissus
Dan Rather finally found out what the frequency is.
Unfortunately, it’s the frequency that lets the Village pump bullshit into your brain.
Hill Dweller
If this was already covered in another thread, apologies, but Willard’s campaign was caught literally cutting and pasting a section of Obama for America’s website and pretended it was their original content.
Heliopause
Couldn’t you post some actual content instead?
WaterGirl
@Hill Dweller: My favorite part from the article about that?
“You Didn’t Write That!”
Joy
I love wine-thirty.
Ash Can
That’s the way it should be.
Rhubarb
Please (excuse if someone’s already done this)–it’s Brussels–as in the city–sprouts.
That’s all for the moment.
Michael G
You know even if the question was between Obama and Rafalca, there would be that 15% obstinately giving credit to the horse.
BruceFromOhio
I’m betting that smile gets a lot of smiles back.
Roger Moore
@Chris:
Not quite. 15% of people will tell a pollster that they think Romney deserves more credit than Obama for killing Osama. Any time you see a crazy stat like that, it’s worth remembering that these are people’s self-reported opinions made to somebody who probably interrupted them in the middle of dinner. I firmly believe that there’s a meaningful percentage of the population that is willing to lie to pollsters just to dick with them, and that their chances of doing so increase with the stupidity and obnoxiousness of the question being asked. It’s a useful alternative hypothesis to consider whenever you see truly crazy polling results. A variant on this basic hypothesis helps to explain the percentage of American high school students who can’t identify the USA on a map.
SIA
Here’s how the wingers deal with an Obama poll lead…
peej
How about some pet pictures now!!
Smiling Mortician
@Chris:
No, you didn’t read it right. It’s 15% of Republicans, in Ohio and NC. It’s still fucked up, but, you know . . . Republicans.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@Roger Moore: and that was a poll of Republicans only, in Ohio
Mike in NC
@Villago Delenda Est: Both Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw appear to be in the early stages of senility. Keep them off our TVs.
Liquid
@Yutsano:
Touche.
Smiling Mortician
@Old Dan and Little Ann: The block quote was Republicans only.
khead
I can’t be the only MF’er out there who is looking at the pic and saying…..
….Hey, how did that blockhead land this chick and those dogs?
Of course, maybe its the food. The marinated flank steak doesn’t look too bad.
max
38% of Ohio Republicans say Barack Obama is most responsible for the bin Laden’s death, 15% say Romney, and 47% were unsure.
After seeing this everywhere and even reading a long post about it on WonkBlog (arguing that voters are heavily motivated by partisanship) it occurred to me to think that this might be a case of ‘Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer’? Why would the pollsters even insert Romney as an answer to this question?
It might be better to conclude that the results for the question for Ohio R’s was ‘38% said Obama, and 62% said Anybody But Obama’.
max
[‘That’s fairly rough, but it doesn’t imply that they’re stupid, so much as determined not to give O credit for anything.’]
FlipYrWhig
@Michael G: Yup. It’s not the result of a thought process, it might as well be a reflex: “I’m not giving that Obama credit for anything. Whatever’s the opposite of Obama, I’ll pick that.”
Violet
Tammy is gorgeous. Brian is a lucky man. The doggies are cute. Dinner looks delicious. I love Brussels sprouts. In fact, I just put some plants in the garden. If winter is cold enough, I might get some sprouts this year. Yum.
Am I the first to note that Brian and Tammy have failed the counter top inspection?
Smiling Mortician
@Debbie(Aussie):
Sort of. If you take the Ohio 15% who said “Romney” and add the 47% who said “not sure,” which is just as stupid as “Romney,” you get 63%. But the stats are for Republicans only . . . so taking current estimates that Republicans make up 42.8% of the Ohio electorate, you end up with 27%.
Of course, I totally made up that 42.8% statistic, but it was fun.
Redshift
@efgoldman: Um, no. It won’t happen before the election, but in the long run, states do exchange some information in bulk. The Virginia voter registration application asks for as much information as you have about where you were previously registered, and if it’s another state apparently they’ll send it to them.
They key points are that you can change your registration and vote at your college address (the Supreme Court affirmed that a long while back, even if Republicans are always trying to make it practically impossible.) You of course shouldn’t vote both places, but you can re-register at your home address at any point.
I would guess that OFA is working in Ohio to support the senate race (and because of that, your vote would have more impact there than in IL.)
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@Mike in NC: Well, Rather is over 80. Brokaw’s no spring chicken, but his problem is terminal smugness. It was a real disappointment to see Lawrence O’Donnell and other MSNBCers fawning over him as he made excuses for Romney and Ryan and their race-baiting and lies. Brokaw, the Russerts, Williams, whenver I see them I just remember that Peter Jennings– who never even wrote a self-indulgent best-selller as far as I remember– left an estate of $50 million.
Villago Delenda Est
Heaven help me, I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I saw that photo.
Cacti
@max:
Because, these are the same voters who believed in 2004 that John Kerry was a wound-faking coward, and George W. Bush was a heroic figure.
mainmati
@Linda Featheringill: That’s exactly what I thought. This is bullshit. These people know exactly what went down and who gave the order. The idea that Rmoney, an unemployed loafer for the last 6 years was responsible for offing Obama is beyond idiotic. Then again, we are dealing with the wing-nuttery here.
Keith G
@Comrade Jake:
1. Tied him the the roof of the station wagon and hosed him down (the Seamus-Cheney treatment).
2. Let Ann tear out his trachea with her teeth.
kdaug
@SiubhanDuinne:
Don’t sweat it, kid. I was following via smoke signal.
Tractarian
Who is that
bridge troll with thehot blondeand two dogs?Narcissus
@Violet:
Origuy
@SIA:
It couldn’t be the start of hunting season coming up, could it?
Villago Delenda Est
@Origuy:
No one uses firearms for hunting, silly. Firearms are for second amendment remedies!
MattR
@max:
The interesting thing is if you apply that rationale to the self-identified independents (specifically the 36% who were unsure) it shows some of them may be more partisan than they want to believe. Or maybe it is just more proof that Americans are uninformed morons.
PS. Is anybody else really enjoying this broadcast of MNF without the announcers?
Keith
Can’t say I agree with the notion of posting a picture of a woman holding up a couple of dogs followed by a picture of a plate of sliced meat.
And on the 15%, at least the crazification has been reduced by nearly half under Obama! It’s just a more virulent strain.
jwb
@Spaghetti Lee: The Senate race is likely to be close and they want you voting in MO for that.
MikeJ
@Villago Delenda Est: All that elk sausage my relatives give me come s from terrorist elk. I suppose wingers think Roosevelt was a terrorist.
MattR
@Keith:
Embellished that for you.
Anya
That’s a beautiful family!
John! Dude! Be kind to your heart.
Roger Moore
@Origuy:
If it were because hunting season is coming, I’d expect it to be the .30-30 and shotgun ammo that was being picked over. The kind of things you typically kill with a .223 don’t have a season.
mr.peabody
To Brian-Golf clap.
Well played, sir.
Well played.
Concerned Citizen
Try a 9″ salad plate. It’ll make you thinner eating the same shizzle.
http://www.amazon.com/The-9-Inch-Diet-Alex-Bogusky/dp/157687320X
Threw out my dinner plates 2 years ago. I’m much thinner. (Still not hot, but that’s par for the course)
Concerned Citizen
@Concerned Citizen: Finding the short forks sucks. I’d suggest ebay.
SIA
@Origuy: Perhaps. Must just be a coincidence. More from Hot Air:
And from the many posts one finds by using the Google “Obama firearms sales”:
I can find a lot more but it’s sickening.
MaryRC
@Linda Featheringill: You’re right, they know. They just refuse to admit it.
dww44
@Cacti: @Mike in NC: I don’t know about the senility bit, but they’ve certainly lost something!! The ability to read facts and come away with the opposite of the truth or something. I too saw Romney on Maddow and I was just plain out pissed off. We need someone to debate him on her show. She needs to have point/counterpoint and I nominate Steve Kornacki or perhaps Booman or Doug J or Dennis G.
Brokaw is simply dismissive of anyone who’s not an elite like him. he doesn’t piss me off nearly as much, cause I don’t expect better of him. I do or did of Dan Rather.
Steeplejack
@MattR:
I was just thinking about turning off the game entirely and going to bed, even though it’s pretty close just before halftime. Chris Berman’s voice just makes me tired. It’s fine for 30 seconds of one of those “quickie recap” segments, but as the commenter for a whole game? Hell, no.
N.B. At least he’s not Brent Musburger. [shudder]
Warren Terra
Does the family photo in the update look to anyone else like they’re about to chop up the dogs, or perhaps just one of the dogs, John’s pick?
Tams
@Violet: What’s the counter top inspection?
dww44
@dww44: Also, General Stuck perhaps
Maude
@Steeplejack:
Or Sarah Palin.
MattR
@Steeplejack: And it’s back out again. Definitely an improvement, though I have to remember to look back from the computer to the TV since I am used to using cues from the announcers when a play is about to be run
Steve
The ones who stock up on ammo really get me. Like, even if you expect to have to defend yourself, are you envisioning some Dawn of the Dead scenario?
SIA
@Steve: Dawn of the Dems. SCAAARY.
LT
The proper question, cole, is “Who is that bridge troll with the HAWT blonde and why does he have his finger up that poor dog’s ass?”
Hawt.
Ripley
Her dad needs to lose the toupee.
1badbaba3
@SIA: Good for them. They should go out with a bang, just like their traitorous antecedants back in the 1860s.
SIA
@1badbaba3: If it’s true that evil plants the seeds of it’s own destruction, then I say let ‘er rip. FSM protect the Obama family though.
dance around in your bones
I am watching my 3 grandboys tonight, all by my lonesome. I would love some music videos or something to take my mind off the sheer terror of this.
(I can still hear their shrill cries through my headphones, so no worries there.)
Their parental units are out overnight celebrating their 8th anniversary. Which is why I am stuck with the 3 boy maniacs.
bob h
Could you explain W. Virginia to us sometime? I saw figures showing that you receive the highest Federal imbursement (about $2.80 for every $1 in taxes) of all the states. You are the most dependent on the Federal government, yet hostility to it burns brightly in W. Va.
hep kitty
Well I didn’t watch the Sun. shows so I didn’t know about Mitt’s contortionism regarding Obamacare until last night.
humminah, humminah, humminah!
hep kitty
Although I cannot see how he can backtrack on his previous statements that you get to keep your insurance if you’ve already got it! You can’t get into the exorbitant risk pool that Ryan is talked about (the ordinary person absolutely canNOT afford to be in a risk pool in my state).
Ryan, more humminah. Amazing, simply amazing. No details, whatsoever. Neither is a good liar. Pathetic.
Cassidy
To hell with the dogs, more pics of her please.
Patty K
Eighteen per cent of Americans, no doubt all of them Republicans, think that the sun revolves around the earth so that figure of 15 per cent sounds about right.
Bulworth
The woman in the picture is quite lovely.
seanindc
that picture looks like a hostage situation. The blonde is pleading with her eyes for someone to call the cops, or a Grimm.
Tonal Crow
The wingnuts are correct. Romney killed bin Laden by making him laugh so hard he choked on a haunch of yak meat.
—
Romney: Like Sarah Palin, but less qualified and more dishonest.
billiecat
Am I right that Brian is Cole’s brother? Them Cole boys must be real smooth talkers. Hope for John yet.
Arclite
Are Tammy and Brian a couple? Or, like, just friends? They make an unlikely looking couple.
@billiecat: I agree, Brian is wearing the famous Cole scowl.
Quaker in a Basement
Whoever he is, please direct me to his fan page. I wish to sign up.
Matt McIrvin
@hueyplong:
It’s the Will to Troll, the basic substance from which the Internet is constructed.
johnnymags
@Hill Dweller: Dan’s become a concern troll.