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When I search a faceless crowd

by DougJ|  October 1, 201212:46 pm| 182 Comments

This post is in: Election 2012, Blogospheric Navel-Gazing

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What are the big demographic groups we’re going to hear about endlessly between now and November? NASCAR dads and security moms are so two-thousand and late, there’s got to be something new.

Upper West thinks the key demo is “white, working class, I-93 corridor, lacrosse step-dad, replacement-ref hating, The Voice-watching, two-bedroom-colonial-house-living-in voters”.

What’s your guess?

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  1. 1.

    WereBear

    October 1, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    I think they have yet to mine the clueless-overworked-single-mom-who-listens-to-her-mother-too-much demo, but what do I know?

  2. 2.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    How about childless losers in the throes of a midlife crisis? We always get the shaft.

  3. 3.

    gussie

    October 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Security Seniors and FiRe-Fems, Fiscally Responsible Females.

  4. 4.

    SatanicPanic

    October 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Whoever the hell lives in the Oshkosh-Scranton corridor

  5. 5.

    Lolis

    October 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    How about the disaffected hipsters?

  6. 6.

    jibeaux

    October 1, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Well, let’s hope to hell it’s women and their Nineteenth Amendment Hammer of Justice, Bitchez.

  7. 7.

    piratedan

    October 1, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    hmmm… the working two jobs and reality show watching demographic

  8. 8.

    dedc79

    October 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    “Reagan Democrats” has been making a disturbing comeback among the pundits

  9. 9.

    Yutsano

    October 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    @SatanicPanic: So basically Ohio?

  10. 10.

    MattF

    October 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Is “Where’s My Constituency?” anything like “Where’s Waldo?”

  11. 11.

    1badbaba3

    October 1, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    The crypto-racist firebagger with half-assed argument crowd has for too long been overlooked and undervalued. But I feel their time has come.

    Stein/WTF ’12

  12. 12.

    The Dangerman

    October 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Key demographic HAS to be Diebold programmers.

  13. 13.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    October 1, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Catholics.

    Keeping in mind of course that by this phrase pundits mean not actual American Catholics, but rather Generalissimo Francisco Franco.

  14. 14.

    Culture of Truth

    October 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Hitler-Obsessed Disaffected Billionaires

  15. 15.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Hey! I actually like a topic that Doug picked!

    Maybe I’ve been a closet Manichean Monster lover all along. :-)

    NASCAR:
    There was a poll that showed Obama ahead among NASCAR fans, so we probably won’t hear about that from the MSM.

    Oldsters:
    Because it looks like they are splitting about 50-50 in several different parts of the country, we probably won’t hear about them on the MSM, either.

    White women:
    Since they’re proving faithful in their support of our cause, and their persistence in looking after their own interests, the media is likely to ignore them.

    Young people:
    The young stuff is safely in the D column. They can’t always be depended on to actually get out and vote but that’s a Democratic worry, so I expect a lot of silence on the topic.

    Minorities:
    Members of various minority groups are fairly afraid of Romney/Ryan and I don’t blame them. I’m fearful, too. The Dems need to really get out the vote but people inside the beltway aren’t going to be concerned about them.

    I guess that leaves white males, probably of the ages of 30 to 60 more or less. Hmmm. How are we going to divide them up?

  16. 16.

    Alex S.

    October 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Shotgun ladies, hipster nuns, Romney Democrats, José the gardener, conjoined twins for Jesus.

  17. 17.

    piratedan

    October 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    @The Dangerman: and if I had been more mentally nimble, I would have offered locksmiths and voice teachers

  18. 18.

    piratedan

    October 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    @The Dangerman: and if I had been more mentally nimble, I would have offered locksmiths and voice teachers

  19. 19.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Whites. The discussion this election year has been about the white vote. This is as close as the MSM can get to admitting racism is a major factor in this election. They could be more direct in 2008 because the message was ‘See? Racism is dead!’

  20. 20.

    Alex S.

    October 1, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Shotgun ladies, hipster nuns, Romney Democrats, José the gardener, conjoined twins for Jesus.

  21. 21.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 1, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Whites. The discussion this election year has been about the white vote. This is as close as the MSM can get to admitting racism is a major factor in this election. They could be more direct in 2008 because the message was ‘See? Racism is dead!’

  22. 22.

    Laura

    October 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Eh, I feel like lacross is still way too niche.

  23. 23.

    Cassidy

    October 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Well, I’m not sure what its going to be called, but I thik it will stand for this:

    White person who’s profoundly uncomfortable around people of color and any variation of brown skin who works 40+ hours a week, goes to church but really couldn’t give a shit and hurry up kickoff is soon, and I don’t like people telling me I can’t do something, and science what?, can I say a racist joke here? demographic.

  24. 24.

    Alex S.

    October 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Shotgun ladies, hipster nuns, Romney Democrats, José the gardener, conjoined twins for Jesus.

  25. 25.

    Laura

    October 1, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Eh, I feel like lacross is still way too niche.

  26. 26.

    amk

    October 1, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    firebaggers ? heck, they even made a ‘thisisgonnasinkobama’ movie out of them.

  27. 27.

    piratedan

    October 1, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    @The Dangerman: If I had been more mentally nimble, I would have offered unemployed locksmiths and overworked voice coaches… :-)

  28. 28.

    Cassidy

    October 1, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Well, I’m not sure what its going to be called, but I thik it will stand for this:

    White person who’s profoundly uncomfortable around people of color and any variation of brown skin who works 40+ hours a week, goes to church but really couldn’t give a shit and hurry up kickoff is soon, and I don’t like people telling me I can’t do something, and science what?, can I say a racist joke here? demographic.

  29. 29.

    Redshift

    October 1, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    @dedc79: They never seem to grasp that most Reagan Democrats have died off. I guess if Zombie Reagan is going to save the GOP, he’ll need an army of Zombie Reagan Democrats to back him up.

  30. 30.

    MoeLarryAndJesus

    October 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Angry White Guys and their Considering Divorce Wives.

  31. 31.

    amorphous

    October 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    I think the key demographic is likely to be demographic-considering amateur political landscape analysts. Is that meta enough?

    @Yutsano: Don’t forget NE IN, so yeah, actually probably the Oshkosh-Scranton corridor. AKA, I-80.

  32. 32.

    Alex S.

    October 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    I’m very sorry.

  33. 33.

    encephalopath

    October 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    “I’ll press your flesh, you dimwitted sumbitch! You don’t tell your pappy how to court the electorate. We ain’t one-at-a-timin’ here. We’re MASS communicating!”

  34. 34.

    SatanicPanic

    October 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    @Yutsano: Oh that’s a real place? I thought it was a mythical land of independents who can be counted to vote for Romney

  35. 35.

    smintheus

    October 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Shades of Grey Grandmas.

  36. 36.

    BGinCHI

    October 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    There are only two kinds of voters:

    1. Those who root for Walt White.

    2. Those who root for Jesse.

  37. 37.

    MattF

    October 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    I’ve got it. Toesuckers. Suburban toesuckers.

  38. 38.

    taylormattd

    October 1, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    They were once Bush voters, these stoic, hearty men from typically Republican Manchester. In their youth they witnessed the personal and political excesses of the disgraced and impeached President Clinton, and were glad to cast their first vote for a man who shared their heartland values, and who just might have been a fun guy with whom they could empty a pint.

    They married and started families, as had their fathers and grandfathers before them. They love a simple life, filled with hard work. The kind where a man rises at 4 a.m., before the sun, and isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty. They love their kids, their wives, and their church.

    By 2008, these men were feeling restless. They were worried. They had young kids, and began to think about the future. What would it hold for the children? They weren’t sure. But Obama’s message of Hope and Change resonated deep within their cores, and they began to think a shift in direction might not be a bad thing. So because they totally were not racist all, not even a little (how dare you), they were willing to give Obama a chance.

    But here it is, 2012, and a vastly different feeling has swept over these truly American men.

    Hope and Change is gone.

    Will Mitt Romney be able to capitalize upon Obama’s failure to secure the hard-working, nose-to-the-grindstone, stoic, hearty, beefy, delicious American man vote?

    We will attempt to answer that question here on ABC’s This Week on Sunday.

  39. 39.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    October 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    @Alex S.:

    Romney Chris Christie Democrats, aka mac-and-cheese voters

    __
    Fixt.

    Because with the SS Mittanic visibly taking on water and with the rancid stench of consternation, panic and flopsweat breaking out in the First Class Dining Room, it is never too early to start pimping President William Howard Kraft.

  40. 40.

    ? Martin

    October 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    Federal income tax payers and federal benefits receivers (and breakdowns – payroll tax payers, etc.) Latinos.

    Mitt set the stage.

  41. 41.

    Michael

    October 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    Casual-hunters-who-eat-at-the-local-diner-and-coach-little-league

    Think of everything packed into that: gun rights, likely white male, suburban or rural, having young kids means 35-60

    It’s perfect.

  42. 42.

    hueyplong

    October 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Old, angry white bigots have been heard from ad nauseum through the DADT saga, the entirety of the health care legislation and subsequent litigation, however many hundred GOP debates there were, their supposedly hurt feelings over mandatory insurance coverage for contraception, orchestrated GOP attempts to make sure that only they vote, and the welfare-related policitcal ads that cater to their prejudices.

    I’d like to be at that happy place where we say “Fk ’em” and celebrate the re-election of a Ni-CLANG as the talking heads sadly intone that capturing their vote and no one else’s came up juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust short as a winning political strategy for the GOP.

  43. 43.

    burnspbesq

    October 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Lacrosse step-dads?

    Sadly, there aren’t enough of those to swing a school-board election.

  44. 44.

    Ash Can

    October 1, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Seriously? I bet “the 47%” will be pretty trendy.

  45. 45.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 1, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Ah, gee. I tried to answer the question seriously.

    But I really enjoyed the categories you guys came up with. Keep ’em coming!

    :-)

  46. 46.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    October 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Villagers. It’s the one voting block that the Villagers have yet to pimp.

  47. 47.

    JPL

    October 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    @BGinCHI: There are people who cheer for them? Wow, who knew.

  48. 48.

    Lurking Canadian

    October 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    I predict we will hear most about the desires of village pundits. The positions ofthe actual electorate will be asserted, but not empirically tested until election day.

  49. 49.

    The Red Pen

    October 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Obama Libertarians (Penn Jillette for poster boy, or is he being contrarian again?)

  50. 50.

    ruemara

    October 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    I don’t know, so I will push for broke-ass, newly single, pagan negresses who could use a nice plate of sashimi. Acronym under development but I will put on a dashiki and make pro-Romney noises for some sweet, sweet SupaPac cash.

  51. 51.

    Culture of Truth

    October 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Gays Against Gay Marriage

  52. 52.

    Tractarian

    October 1, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Middle-aged white males?

    30- to 40-something Caucasian men?

    Post-adolescent, pre-retirement fair-skinned people with Y chromosomes?

    Pale working-age penis-owners?

  53. 53.

    PurpleGirl

    October 1, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    How about single, never-married seniors; we are very concerned about issues like Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security. (I have no idea how many of us there are, but we should be a group that is looked at closely.)

  54. 54.

    jl

    October 1, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    I read last week that Obama was in the lead among NASCAR dads, and moms, and third cousins twice removed.

    So. Lay. TF. Off.

    How about the fat pasty faced cheeseball pundit vote.

    That is one tough demo.

  55. 55.

    Punchy

    October 1, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Whoever the hell lives in the Oshkosh-Scranton corridor

    Overall, the Oshkosh denimzens cotton towards those with blue genes.

  56. 56.

    James E. Powell

    October 1, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Not enough attention is paid to the large and influential demographic I like to call the Clueless Dickweeds.

    Theses are the guys who think that loud guy at the end of the bar is obnoxious, but you know, he does have a point.

  57. 57.

    butler

    October 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @taylormattd: Beautifully done.

  58. 58.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @hueyplong:

    I’d like to be at that happy place where we say “Fk ‘em” and celebrate the re-election of a Ni-CLANG as the talking heads sadly intone that capturing their vote and no one else’s came up juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust short as a winning political strategy for the GOP.

    Yes.

    I do believe that one of the goals on the Right has been to make an example out of Obama to ensure that no other darkie got all uppity and tried to emulate Barack. They supported efforts to try to make his presidency a failure and they wanted to have him lose this election by such a margin it would be humiliating.

    Looks like they failed.

    And we lefties, who’ve worked so hard to get to this point, have influenced the direction of this country for several years down the road. We are patriots.

  59. 59.

    Napoleon

    October 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    President William Howard Kraft

    BraaaHaHaHahahahaha

  60. 60.

    Killjoy

    October 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Bi-curious unmarried Polish bicycle mechanics

  61. 61.

    ? Martin

    October 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    But who would I like them to break down along? Hmm…

    * Han or Greedo shot first
    * Sasquatch believers
    * Simon Cowell vs LA Reid as best judge
    * 50 Shades of Grey readers
    * Dress left or right
    * Best house: Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, Slytherin
    * Preferred porn site category. Let’s find out where bukakke fans really stand on the issues.

  62. 62.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    @Cassidy: You live in my town, by chance?

  63. 63.

    MikeJ

    October 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    @MoeLarryAndJesus:

    Angry White Guys and their Considering Divorce Wives.

    So you’ve seen the Rob McKenna commercials? No wives in it, just angry white guys yelling about Democrats. I can’t believe it will actually pick up any votes for him in Seattle.

  64. 64.

    Arrik

    October 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    I like the new nom de plume, Doug.

  65. 65.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    October 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Key demo:

    Parasitic Overclass.

    Oh wait…

  66. 66.

    RubberCrutch

    October 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    *Should be* Nails Ladies.

  67. 67.

    burnspbesq

    October 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    @hep kitty:

    How about childless losers in the throes of a midlife crisis?

    People like that are why God invented Porsches.

  68. 68.

    Steeplejack

    October 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    @Lolis:

    “Disaffected hipsters”? Redundant?

  69. 69.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 1, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    @taylormattd:
    …I applaud you, Sir. You have perfectly and completely captured what the Villagers believe America is like. Even more ironic: They believe they themselves are part of this group and just happen to have gotten a better paying job.

  70. 70.

    Face

    October 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Seen Yours?, Seniors and Senors.

  71. 71.

    The Moar You Know

    October 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    “Oshkosh to Scranton corridor”, as our trained troll used to like to say, before events overtook him and rendered his poignant observation moot.

    Still, just because it’s disproven doesn’t mean that the media can’t latch onto it like a lamprey between now and Mitt Romney’s Shittiest Day Ever.

  72. 72.

    jl

    October 1, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Who is rounding up the BJ front pager vote this year?

    That is a prime group, but rousting them will be tough.

    Whatever, just keep coming on back, and if they’re not sobered by closing time, grab them effers and walk ’em over the car and then shove ’em hard as you can into the damn polling place. Git ‘er done one way or another.

    As long as you can get them into the voting booth on their damn feet, it’s all good.

  73. 73.

    Njorl

    October 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    The key demographic will be double posters.

  74. 74.

    Njorl

    October 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    The key demographic will be double posters!

  75. 75.

    The Red Pen

    October 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    @? Martin:

    Let’s find out where bukakke fans really stand on the issues.

    Tall order; they’re a slippery bunch.

  76. 76.

    taylormattd

    October 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    @Killjoy: I may have met one of those on Grindr once.

  77. 77.

    Ben Cisco

    October 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    OT: If there weren’t a TBogg, someone would have to create him. Also, Tucker gets punched in the junk again.

  78. 78.

    lamh35

    October 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    So Romney’s FP strategy is being coined “The Jimmy Carter” strategy.

    WTH, I am 35 years old (soon to be 36) and aside from knowing that Jimmy Carter used to be Prez and is the founder of Habitat for Humanity, if I didn’t read the blogs, that’s all I would know about him

    Exactly who is this strategy supposed to aid Romney in getting? Aren’t the people who are likely to buy this Obama=Carter BS already NOT voting for Obama and likely voting for Romney?

  79. 79.

    mdblanche

    October 1, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    @Njorl: I see what you did there.

  80. 80.

    mdblanche

    October 1, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    @Njorl: I see what you did there!

  81. 81.

    amk

    October 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    @Njorl: Nice.

  82. 82.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Cyborg-Americans.

  83. 83.

    AA+ Bonds

    October 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    A bunch of fucking idiot psychopaths who think they have real political views that somehow change every two years

  84. 84.

    SatanicPanic

    October 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    @The Moar You Know: Glad somebody got that one. I know it’s not George Tierney of Greenville SC level memorable but I’m still hoping it makes the lexicon one day.

  85. 85.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    @PurpleGirl: I really wish they would stop ignoring singles and people w/o kids. It’s like we don’t exist. In those soaring speeches or even at the most boring press conferences.

    I mean, I’d be happy with just a little lip service even, just to reassure me that they do, in fact, realize we exist.

    harrumph!

  86. 86.

    scav

    October 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    My giggle of the moment is that all these geo-demographic classifications I first learned under the heading of Acorns (see wiki here). Minor giggle, I take it but share.

  87. 87.

    Dennis SGMM

    October 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    Scientologists, coprophiliacs. But then I repeat myself.

  88. 88.

    The Very Reverend Crimson Fire of compassion

    October 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    @Culture of Truth: It needs to be Gays Against Gay Marriage Equality for the acronym to work.

  89. 89.

    Legalize

    October 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    Former Liberals Who Are Suddenly Concerned about Chappaquiddick Because 9/11 Changed Everything.

  90. 90.

    Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ

    October 1, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    @smintheus:

    Win.

  91. 91.

    Cargo

    October 1, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    The most important demographic in this and any election is just your regular Joes with regular jobs, your average whitebread suburbanite slobs. They like football and porno and books about war. They’ve got average houses with nice hardwood floors.
    A wife and a job, two kids and a car, their feet on a table and a Cuban cigar

    But sometimes that just ain’t enough
    To keep a man like me interested
    (Oh no)
    No way
    (Uh-uh)

    No, I’ve gotta go out and have fun at someone else’s expense
    (Oh yeah)
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

    I drive really slow in the ultrafast lane
    While people behind me are going insane

    I’m an asshole
    (He’s an asshole, what an asshole)
    I’m an asshole
    (He’s an asshole, such an asshole)

    I use public toilets and I piss on the seat
    I walk around in the summertime going “How about this heat?”

    I’m an asshole
    (He’s an asshole, what an asshole)
    I’m an asshole
    (He’s the world’s biggest asshole)

    Sometimes I park
    In handicapped spaces
    While handicapped people
    Make handicapped faces

    I’m an asshole
    (He’s an asshole, what an asshole)
    I’m an asshole
    (He’s a real fucking asshole)

    Maybe I shouldn’t be singing this song
    Ranting and raving and carrying on
    Maybe they’re right when they tell me I’m wrong

    Nah!

    I’m an asshole
    (He’s an asshole, what an asshole)
    I’m an asshole
    (He’s the world’s biggest asshole)

    You know what I’m gonna do?
    I’m gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac, El Dorado convertible
    Hot pink with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interior
    And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah
    And I’m gonna drive around in that baby at 115 mph

    Getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter-pounder cheeseburgers from McDonald’s in the old fashioned
    Non-biodegradable styrofoam containers
    And when I’m done sucking down those grease ball burgers

    I’m gonna wipe my mouth with the American flag
    And then I’m gonna toss the Styrofoam container right out the side
    And there ain’t a goddamned thing anybody can do about it
    You know why? Because we got the bombs, that’s why

    Two words, nuclear fucking weapons, okay?
    Russia, Germany, Romania
    They can have all the democracy they want
    They can have a big democracy cake walk
    Right through the middle of Tienanmen square

    And it won’t make a lick of difference
    Because we’ve got the bombs, okay? John Wayne’s not dead
    He’s frozen and as soon as we find the cure for cancer
    We’re gonna thaw out the duke and he’s gonna be pretty pissed off
    You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower?

    Well multiple that by 15 million times
    That’s how pissed off the Duke’s gonna be
    I’m gonna get the Duke and John Cassavetes

    (Hey)
    And Lee Marvin
    (Hey)
    And Sam Peckinpah
    (Hey)
    And a case of whiskey and drive down to Texas
    (Hey, you know you really are an asshole)
    Why don’t you just shut-up and sing the song pal

    I’m an asshole
    (He’s an asshole, what an asshole)
    I’m an asshole
    (He’s the world’s biggest asshole)

    A S S H O L E, everybody
    A S S H O L E (refrain)

    And that’s the Republican demographic! :3

  92. 92.

    Ash Can

    October 1, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Women Who Claim To Be Feminists But Secretly Support Phyllis Schlafly And Want A Strong Masculine Government And Are Voting For Romney And Ryan Because Of Their Looks. And Who Dream About Ronald Reagan. And Who Happen To Like A Little Drink Now And Then. Just Socially, Mind You; Never On The Job.

  93. 93.

    rumpole

    October 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Does anyone have a line on Tim Kaine as a politician? I saw one of his adds against George Allen last night, which hammered him on a series of standard stuff (spending), but then castigated him for voting to raise the debt ceiling–which pretty much set me off in disgust as (a) the ad didn’t need it, and (b) it had been a justified basis of attack against the R crazy.

    Anybody seen that ad or know what I’m talking about?

  94. 94.

    Cassidy

    October 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    @hep kitty: Hehehehe….single and could use a little lip service now and then….funny.

    I live in the South.

  95. 95.

    Enhanced Mooching Techniques

    October 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    @lamh35:

    So Romney’s FP strategy is being coined “The Jimmy Carter” strategy.

    I noticed in the article their source inside the Romney camp called the people pushing it as clueless. This reads like a repeat of Romney gloating about the dead ambassador.

    To answer your question Carter did a series of things over his presidency were frankly wimpy – talking tough about the Iranian radicals and then dumping the Shah was the biggest. Boycotting the Moscow Olympics for the invasion of Afghanistan, the Panama Canal treaty and the failed rescue attempt all added to the mem.

  96. 96.

    ? Martin

    October 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    I should add ‘Lewis Hamilton fans uncertain about his move to Mercedes’ to the list.

  97. 97.

    Steeplejack

    October 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    @Ash Can:

    Peggy, is that you?

  98. 98.

    scav

    October 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    The silent empty-chair sitting majority.

  99. 99.

    Upper West

    October 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    @taylormattd: You captured it. Just this morning, I made the mistake of turning on “Morning Joe” for just five minutes, only to hear the now supremely dickish Tom Brokaw saying that Republicans were doing badly because “People in this country have gotten used to “getting things” like SS and Medicare and the Republicans are running on taking those things away.” But after the election “we have to deal with this anyway.”

    So how about the demographic of “formerly reasonably intelligent anchors who have deteriorated into purveyors of Beltway bullshit and sagely intone that the granny starvers are right even though they themselves will never need a dime of SS or Medicare.”

    I’d throw Brokaw, Koppel and to a lesser extent, Rather, into that group.

  100. 100.

    patroclus

    October 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Low information voters.

  101. 101.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    @Cassidy: erhm, usually i pick up on those sorts of things before posting . . . :)

  102. 102.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    @lamh35:

    Jimmy Carter:

    “Trust me.”

    It actually worked for Jimmy.

  103. 103.

    Upper West

    October 1, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @burnspbesq: You’re right, of course, but I couldn’t resist. Besides, what other sport could you put in now that soccer and hockey moms, dads, have been beaten to death. “Dodge-ball single moms but who are living with some guy.”?

  104. 104.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @lamh35:

    So Romney’s FP strategy is being coined “The Jimmy Carter” strategy.

    James Carter IV, along with his grandpappy, gotta be smilin’ about that right about now

  105. 105.

    lamh35

    October 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @Enhanced Mooching Techniques: exactly. it’s completely dumb. Romney’s fumbling inital reaction the the Libya attack has basically made it harder for Romney to try to make a case against anything the admin did.

    ETA: I’m aware of all the things that have lead to the Carter meme. What I am saying though is that there is a difference between living during historical events and learning about them later after the spin has been introduced. People of a certain age, don’t have the sinister or inept view of Carter that other who are older might have.

    So this strategy only works for those predisposed to believe the past deeds of Carter matter and those people are probably already voting or Romney or against Obama

    Also, some comment suggested that this “intel” may have been something learned about in Romney’s new security briefings since being nominated. Which is true, what’s more scarier than this guy using stuff from secret briefings to score political points.

  106. 106.

    dollared

    October 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @burnspbesq: Perhaps, but lacrosse stepmoms, the trophy second wives of the prep school community, have run the country (and virtually all the arts and music nonprofits) for the last 30 years.

  107. 107.

    Dennis SGMM

    October 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    OT: Ann Coulter gets mugged by Whoopi Goldberg on “The View.”

    ETA: It gets better in Part II.

  108. 108.

    Feudalism Now!

    October 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Bukkake fans are all over the place on issues. :/

    I believe that birthers and skewsters will be the new block.

  109. 109.

    MikeJ

    October 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    “Obama is running considerably better than he is nationally among white women without a college education. Obama’s gains with these so-called ‘waitress moms’ are especially pronounced in Heartland battlegrounds like Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa…”

  110. 110.

    trollhattan

    October 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Me.

  111. 111.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    @MikeJ: #106

    The sisterhood is powerful.

  112. 112.

    Napoleon

    October 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    @? Martin:

    Hey, thats me!

  113. 113.

    Spaghetti Lee

    October 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    I’m going to go with the Magical Elves From Happy Gumdrop Land as Romney’s key constituency.

  114. 114.

    lamh35

    October 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    This blog post is awesome for the picture of a young Eric Holder alone. The title and post is great too.

    Eric Holder And His Bitchin’ ‘Fro Was Once An Angry Black Man
    By: TBogg Monday October 1, 2012 1:08 am

  115. 115.

    Southern Beale

    October 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Honestly, I think the media is taking a pass on the whole “security moms,” “joe six-pack,” “NASCAR dads,” “Grizzly mama” framing this time, or else we’d have heard about it by now. Don’t you think? I think they’re just completely flummoxed and have no idea what the fuck is going on in the electorate any more, since they’ve been so perpetually wrong about everything.

    I mean, it should be “white senior citizens in the heartland” worried about Medicare and Social Security but those seem to be the Romney/Ryan base, despite the fact that they’re the ones who will be most hurt by the Republican ticket.

  116. 116.

    Alex S.

    October 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Whoever wins the former president demographic probably wins the election.

  117. 117.

    Cassidy

    October 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    @hep kitty: Ummm….take 3 tequillas and kick him out in the morning? Dammit Jim, I’m a clerk not a wingman.

  118. 118.

    Fwiffo

    October 1, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    It’ll probably be “deficit dads” and “economy moms”.

  119. 119.

    espierce

    October 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    In Florida, it’s the I-4 Corridor.

  120. 120.

    Southern Beale

    October 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    @rumpole:

    …but then castigated him for voting to raise the debt ceiling….

    Are you sure about that? George Allen has been hammering Tim Kaine for voting to raise the debt ceiling. If Kaine is criticizing Allen for doing the same, it’s to point out he’s being a hypocrite.

  121. 121.

    mdblanche

    October 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: I dunno. I’ve heard they’re all voting for Jill Stein this year.

  122. 122.

    trollhattan

    October 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    @lamh35:
    Another TBogg instant classic. Based on the photo, I’d say he was probably “armed” with a cake cutter.

  123. 123.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    @Southern Beale: #112

    I mean, it should be “white senior citizens in the heartland” worried about Medicare and Social Security but those seem to be the Romney/Ryan base, despite the fact that they’re the ones who will be most hurt by the Republican ticket.

    You’ve been busy and probably missed out on the latest trends but several polls in various places classify us oldsters as about evenly split, ranging from slight advantage R to slight advantage D. Which is a real loss to the Republicans, I think.

  124. 124.

    Dennis SGMM

    October 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    @lamh35:

    The Jimmy Carter strategy is also transparently dumb because the hostage rescue attempt took place 32 years ago. Many of today’s voters weren’t even born yet. They’ll probably follow up with a devastating series of ads comparing Obama to Æthelred the Unready.

  125. 125.

    nemesis

    October 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    From the FWIW file…Ms Nem and I went to the movies this weekend. Before sitting down to endure The Master, we took a stroll into the theatre showing “Obama:2016”. After carefully working our way through the clouds of sulfur and discarded doomsday prepping equipment, we stumbled into the viewing area where we came upon that most elusive of daytime creatures- the tbagger. The theatre was crawling with exactly two paying attendees. I made eye contact with them and proceeded to burst out laughing at thier obvious losernessosity.

  126. 126.

    Enhanced Mooching Techniques

    October 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    @lamh35:

    People of a certain age, don’t have the sinister or inept view of Carter that other who are older might have.

    That’s the thing, Carter was never viewed even by the Right as evil. Reagen never even dared hint that, it was “Carter is just much of a nice guy and president needs to be a SOB”. That’s why this will never work on the metro-sexual, sekret Muslim love child of Hitler and Stalin who shot ben Landin in the head just to see a man die.

  127. 127.

    Capt. Seaweed

    October 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Mad Men Obsessives.

  128. 128.

    pseudonymous in nc

    October 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I think they’re just completely flummoxed and have no idea what the fuck is going on in the electorate any more, since they’ve been so perpetually wrong about everything.

    Or just can’t come up with a euphemism for “angry white men.” Though I’ll tip the hat at SNL for getting in early with their skit on “undecided voters” being dumbasses with a sense of entitlement about being dumbasses.

  129. 129.

    The Moar You Know

    October 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    I’d throw Brokaw, Koppel and to a lesser extent, Rather, into that group.

    @Upper West: Dunno. Brokaw’s become a full-throttle wingnut. Don’t think the other two are.

  130. 130.

    Dennis SGMM

    October 1, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I think they’re just completely flummoxed and have no idea what the fuck is going on in the electorate any more, since they’ve been so perpetually wrong about everything.

    Even if they did take the time to ask what’s going on with those voters the answers would be suppressed in the interest of maintaining the horse race narrative.

    ETA: The media would also have to admit that one of our two hallowed political parties has gone off of the rails.

  131. 131.

    Culture of Truth

    October 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    HUUUUUMAAAAANS

  132. 132.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    @Upper West:

    only to hear the now supremely dickish Tom Brokaw saying that Republicans were doing badly because “People in this country have gotten used to “getting things” like SS and Medicare and the Republicans are running on taking those things away.”

    Sweet jesus. I used to like Brokaw. I wonder if he’s so far gone he thinks of himself as a “job creator”. I’m not inclined to violence even in my blog comments, but these soft-handed multi-millionaire blandly calling for cuts in the safety net make my mind drift to heads on pikes, or at the very least a national law requiring their net worth and/or annual income to be part of their chyron ID. And the only time I get calluses is the two or three weeks in spring when I get delusions of landscaping my back yard.

  133. 133.

    bemused

    October 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    @Dennis SGMM:

    Whoopi looked like she wanted to do some whoop ass on Coulter.

  134. 134.

    lamh35

    October 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    This may not be new to some, but this interactive map OfA provides where you can input your zip code and see what President Obama has done for you state is pretty cool. At the very least, it deserves re-tweets and posting to FB.

    barackobama.com/local

  135. 135.

    quannlace

    October 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    So, how will Romney-Debbie Downer spin this.

    ” U.S. manufacturing grew for the first time in four months, buoyed by a jump in new orders”

  136. 136.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    @mdblanche: Oh good lord, been trying to think who is this Stein person everyone is talking about – it’s the Green candidate! So much for visibility.

  137. 137.

    Dennis SGMM

    October 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    @Upper West:

    Brokaw’s modest transformation is in part because he now has to wear a bag of cloves around his neck to cover up the old man smell.

    I expect him to start telling long, rambling anecdotes about the days when he used to tie onions to his belt.

  138. 138.

    ? Martin

    October 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    @Napoleon: We’re a demographic! But since I understand he’s moving to Mercedes to pick up sponsors designed to bring him to the US, I take that as a view that America is on the rise and therefore we should continue to support Democratic policies.

    My bet is he’s in NASCAR within 5 years.

  139. 139.

    eemom

    October 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    What are the big demographic groups we’re going to hear about endlessly between now and November?

    Northern Virginians whose dogs tested positive for Lyme’s disease.

    You heard it here.

  140. 140.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Yeh, Jimmy Carter, nice guy. But his progeny, not so much. I like it.

  141. 141.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 1, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Cat ladies (gentlemen) who follow politics obsessively. Seeing how popular kittehs are on the intertoobz Romney can ignore them at his own peril.

    Tunch has the key to winning this demographic and is accepting sushi-grade tuna as his consultation fees.

  142. 142.

    Alex S.

    October 1, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    bronies

  143. 143.

    policomic

    October 1, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    @hep kitty: Yeah!

  144. 144.

    ? Martin

    October 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Dennis SGMM: Mitt is losing the >60 vote fastest of all. He’s trying to shore that group up – and they all remember Carter.

  145. 145.

    Culture of Truth

    October 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Tom Brokaw got his so screw the rest of you

  146. 146.

    Ash Can

    October 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Once again in all seriousness, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear the term “Gary Johnson Republicans” bandied about, either.

  147. 147.

    Dennis SGMM

    October 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    @? Martin:
    As a member of that demographic I heartily approve. Maybe adopting the vacant eyed granny starver wasn’t the coup that Romney thought it would be.

  148. 148.

    Politically Lost

    October 1, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    The underemployed attorney demo.

  149. 149.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    October 1, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Since Sarah Silverman is an Obot, does that mean she’s no longer fucking Matt Damon?

  150. 150.

    muddy

    October 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    What about the Pastry Party?

    Saw this the the other day, the comments are the best part
    jezebel.com/5945943/idiot-christian-sex-lecturer-uses-carrots-and-donuts-calls-lesbianism-a-pastry-p…

  151. 151.

    Roger Moore

    October 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    @Ash Can:

    Seriously? I bet “the 47%” will be pretty trendy.

    Not nearly as trendy as the 53%, though I’m sure the media will come up with some more clever way of describing them.

  152. 152.

    Dennis SGMM

    October 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    @Shawn in ShowMe:
    I’m an Obot, Sarah. Just sayin’.

  153. 153.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    I think that Carter was a traitor to his class, or at least to his demographic. He was a southern boy, Baptist, who modeled his Christianity on the teachings in the Bible rather than on the various ladders to political power taught by the TV preachers. I’ve met people who were proud of their Christianity and yet had little or no compassion for anyone and they all hated Jimmy Carter. With a passion.

  154. 154.

    patroclus

    October 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Fans of the Walking Dead (or possibly, Zombies from the Walking Dead).

  155. 155.

    mdblanche

    October 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    @hep kitty: Fun fact: this year’s presidential race features almost the exact same line-up as the 2002 Massachusetts governor’s race, except Barack Obama will be subbing for Martha Coakley’s less competent and exciting cousin Shannon O’Brien. Will this make a difference? (Spoiler alert: yes)

  156. 156.

    catclub

    October 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    @Michael: Jerry Sandusky?

  157. 157.

    HRA

    October 1, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    @lamh35:

    Those of us who lived during the Carter administration are not reliving it. That was then and this is now.
    We are doing our best to cope with what was done to us during the GWB administration. That is an administration that trumps even any other one in past memory and not at all for any good in it. This is what should be the real focus. Of course, the Rs will not go there.

  158. 158.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    October 1, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Blind Left-Handed Dentists Without Tonsils, and Pro-Acrylic knitters.

  159. 159.

    Seanly

    October 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    The Homer Simpson demographic –

    I’m a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are.

    Unfortunately, I’m probably in that demographic, but I wouldn’t vote for Romney under any circumstances.

  160. 160.

    Loneoak

    October 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    The next big demographic is apparently people with drug resistant gonorrhea.

    Since the nomenclature rules of electoral demography require that we use a familiar descriptor, I will call them “gonorrhea cousins.”

  161. 161.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    @HRA: Agreed! At least Carter tried to get us to conserve, save gas and to care for the environment. The Reagan era gave him the finger, and here we are.

  162. 162.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    The Honey Boo Boo Mama demographic.

  163. 163.

    hep kitty

    October 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: The Anti-Falwell.

  164. 164.

    Culture of Truth

    October 1, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    Even if we were to relive those days, the parallel is not 1980, but 1984.

  165. 165.

    Jewish Steel

    October 1, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    What are the big demographic groups we’re going to hear about endlessly between now and November?

    Musical Jews. Pass de shofar on de left hand side.

    Love love love the new nym, Em cubed DougJ.

    @Alex S.: What Yutsy said below.

  166. 166.

    Yutsano

    October 1, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    @Alex S.: Win!

  167. 167.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    “Real conservatives” who lurrve Simpson-Bowles. BTW why isn’t Sully back on the blogs we mock list. He is back again on the SB bandwagon. Innumerate idiot.

  168. 168.

    Fwiffo

    October 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    National Journal seems be crediting Obama’s lead in Midwestern/rust-belt swing-states to “waitress moms” (white women without a college degree, though apparently not necessarily moms) who traditionally are a somewhat Republican demographic.

    I think it’s the best fit so far this year for this retarded category of analysis.

  169. 169.

    rikyrah

    October 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    funny thing about these groups: they don’t ever include my Black behind.

  170. 170.

    Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ

    October 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Everyone knows black voters don’t count. Didn’t you learn that in the 2008 primary?

  171. 171.

    jibeaux

    October 1, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    @Ash Can: Where I am, the Ron Paul 2012 signs seem to have disappeared and been replaced with Gary Johnson ones in the exact same places. Whatever, Crazy Thing One or Crazy Thing Two, just take the votes from Romney.

  172. 172.

    ? Martin

    October 1, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    @rikyrah: No point polling you. As you well know, black people are all racist.

  173. 173.

    The Moar You Know

    October 1, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Where I am, the Ron Paul 2012 signs seem to have disappeared and been replaced with Gary Johnson ones in the exact same places.

    @jibeaux: The Paultards are sitting at home with a cushion on their collective asses; they’ve got quite a case of butthurt to deal with.

    Kinda like the old guy now. He really did just fleece the rubes, blow out of town and leave them with nothing. Very old-school of him.

  174. 174.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 1, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    @rikyrah: Groups that are reliable Democratic votes do not seem to matter to the MSM. They keep going on and on about Reagan Democrats but I have heard nary a word about Obama Republicans, or the people who turned away from Republicans after the Bush debacle. We have several of those who comment on this blog and I know more than a few in IRL but I have never heard a peep about this in the media.

  175. 175.

    Roger Moore

    October 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    @rikyrah:

    funny thing about these groups: they don’t ever include my Black behind.

    Yes, that’s because the media only cares about potential swing voters, and darlin your black ass ain’t one.

  176. 176.

    burnspbesq

    October 1, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    @rikyrah:

    funny thing about these groups: they don’t ever include my Black behind.

    Sure they do. All of the Very Serious People who make up these silly categories are totally post-racial, dontcha know.

  177. 177.

    Suffern ACE

    October 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Egad. How did we come under the impression that when the government deducts money from our paycheck each cycle that the government was paying current retirees SS and Medicare and that we would then expect to receive that too?

  178. 178.

    Capri

    October 1, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    @HRA:
    Amen to that. I bought my first car during the Carter administration. I financed it at 18%, then had to wait in line to buy 5 gallons of gas so that I cold drive it for a week. There was an entire generation of people who thought they’d never be able to afford a house due to the crazy interest rates at the time.

    What made Carter so unpopular with average people were a combination of those types of inconveniences and Carter’s response to them – which was “if you can’t afford to heat your house any more, wear a sweater.”

    It goes without saying, NONE of those conditions are here in present day.

  179. 179.

    Gustopher

    October 1, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Pedophile Enablers — This will doubtless have a different name, but we know who they are. Religious Freedom will be mentioned.

    Self-Diagnosed Asperger’s Sufferers — again, the name will be different.

    Christmas and Easter Christians. This one I can actually see. “Why is Obama having difficulty connecting with the Christmas and Easter Christians? He’s got the atheists lined up, and Romney has the weekly Christians…”

  180. 180.

    PurpleGirl

    October 1, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    @The prophet Nostradumbass: …and Pro-Acrylic knitters.

    Heh, LOL. Very good call there.

  181. 181.

    fuckwit

    October 2, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Fuck the Fucking Villagers.

  182. 182.

    Southern Beale

    October 3, 2012 at 8:57 am

    WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER:

    “The Walmart Mom”

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