Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“woke” is the new caravan.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Come on, man.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

People are complicated. Love is not.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

You can’t love your country only when you win.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

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I know I am supposed to be talking about the slow-motion assisted suicide of the GOP (thanks tea party) and embracing how Obama has embraced his inner Marcellus Wallace and not capitulated, but I have a much more pressing question.

What happens to all the hats after someone scores a hat trick in the NHL- do you go down and reclaim it, or do they just throw them out or dump them on the person who scored the hat trick? Have any of you ever thrown a hat at a penguin game? Was it a good one, or do you just wear a shitty hat in case?

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  5. 5.

    dmsilev

    The Google Ad-o-matic is very confused right now. For some reason, it’s serving me an ad for a forklift rental company. Not something I’m in the market for at the moment.

  9. 9.

    muricafukyea

    Poor Libertarian curios Cole. Greenwalds bs doesn’t have much traction these days so he has resorted to childish insults on network TV. Of course Cole will not post about his brother from another mother doing that so he is all….hey look at that shiny object over there.., hey did you see that Bears game…yea hell of a game..they are going to go all the way this year.

  10. 10.

    Chickamin Slam

    Hmm.

    From James Hare’s link it would appear that the procedures vary by team. I know at the minor league hockey games one could claim their hat if they wanted it back at Fan information, otherwise a charity would get them if decent enough.

  11. 11.

    Amir Khalid

    Wikipedia, on the origin of the hat-trick and its definition in various sports. You guys actually throw hats onto the rink when a player scores a hat-trick in the NHL?

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    Erick of the House of Erick:

    GOP Leaders, by caving, are signaling they want us to primary them.

    I am happy to help.

    I have just given money to Heritage Action for America.

    I have just given money to Senate Conservatives Fund.

    These two groups will be at the forefront of the fight.

    I am also giving money to Eric Gurr. He has decided to primary Speaker John Boehner in Ohio.

    I am also giving money to Matt Bevin. He is the primary challenger to Mitch McConnell.

    Poor Erick, betrayed by The Establishment again. Or something. Yes, please contribute to the “More loons winning primaries and losing generals” fund.

  13. 13.

    Chickamin Slam

    @NotMax: One website thinks the name for four goals is a Texas Hat Trick >.> What is 4 goals scored in one hockey game called?
    In: Ice Hockey, Ice Hockey History [Edit categories]
    Answer:
    Texas Hat Trick

    Six goals is a Double Hat Trick or in some leagues, lacrosse for example, a Sock Trick. People apparently throw socks.

  14. 14.

    David Koch

    Newt Gingrich says the GOP wouldn’t be self immolating if Bill Clinton was president:

    “I can’t imagine picking up the phone with Bill Clinton and having his opening words be: ‘I will not negotiate with you.’”

  15. 15.

    Trollhattan

    @the Conster:

    Love it.

    I would pay cash money to watch a Brown v. Christie race because at some point Jerry would (again) challenge Christie to a pull-up competition.

  16. 16.

    Darkrose

    I always forget that a hat trick is good in hockey, because in baseball, it’s striking out three times–or, if you strike out four times, the Golden Sombrero.

  21. 21.

    Matt in HB

    @Amir Khalid: Yep. It can be a glorious thing. One of the best examples I can recall was a hat trick by Dirk Graham of the Chicago Blackhawks in the 1992 Stanley Cup Finals. Although the hawks lost to the Penguins, Graham scored a 1st period hat trick and the Chicago fans went nuts littering the ice with hats (literally hundreds of hats on the ice). I wish I could find a clip of that on youtube; it was great.

  28. 28.

    JPL

    This was in the NYTIMES by Floyd Norris

    How to Know if You’re a Banana Republic

    An excerpt from an e-mail to clients from Jonathan Lewis, chief investment officer at Samson Capital Advisors:
    Top 5 List – Ways to Know You Might Be a Banana Republic
    1. There is a flight from your T-bill market because the government might not be able to pay its debt.
    2. Corporate debt looks more attractive than debt issued by the government.
    3. The government can’t release data on the economy because the government workers who collect and distribute the data have been furloughed.
    4. The leaders of the country have lost the ability to compromise and discuss important policy matters in an open, fact-based manner.
    5. Important futures exchanges begin to aggressively haircut your government debt when it is used as collateral for futures contracts.

    We might as well throw in our hats cuz their games, we already lost our exceptional status..

  29. 29.

    David Koch

    Last Saturday, just 6 days ago, there was a propagandist from Politico on MSNBC raving about Boehner’s brilliant strategy and tactics (No, really!)

    Hhahahahahahha!

    Good Times

  31. 31.

    Jose Arcadio Buendía

    I’ve only been to one Flyers game, but they had glass cases where the hats were stored. Never seen that anywhere else, and I’ve been to almost every NHL arena.

  32. 32.

    Jose Arcadio Buendía

    @David Koch: “Strategy” according to the soap opera press is when you lose so that you can lose a little less later. For me, pyrrhic victories in politics are like unicorns. A lot of people claim they exist, but I have never seen one.

  36. 36.

    muddy

    @David Koch: I just picked up the phone and the computer announced that it had a special message for me from Newt Gingrich. I hung up reflexively. Absolutely reflexively, I didn’t even register what it was until afterwards. Then I wished mildly that I had listened so that I could repeat it here.

    ETA: I hope he was not calling to negotiate with me

  38. 38.

    shelly

    On Cnn today, just saw a few minutes of Cruz speaking at the Values Voter Summit. It’s true, there’s just something so puncable about that smug puss of his.

    “Values Voter?” That’s the best name they could come up with? It sounds like a coupon you’d use at your local Try-N-Save.

  39. 39.

    mainmati

    hat trick (n.) Look up hat trick at Dictionary.com
    1879, originally from cricket, “taking three wickets on three consecutive deliveries;” extended to other sports (especially ice hockey) c.1909. Allegedly because it entitled the bowler (i.e. equivalent to a baseball pitcher) to receive a hat from his club commemorating the feat (or entitled him to pass the hat for a cash collection), but also influenced by the image of a conjurer pulling things from his hat (attested by 1876). In other words, an unlikely an delightful event.

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @mdblanche: Oddly, although I am not actually AT the International House of Pancakes at the moment, I happen to be using IHOP’s WiFi for my iPad. So this is especially licious.

  44. 44.

    shelly

    @dmsilev:

    Love the ad at the bottom of that article’s page:
    “Learn Romney’s retirement secret. Retire with six figures…”

    Sure. And it also helps if you inherited more money that God.

  47. 47.

    Suffern ACE

    @muddy: newt is calling to get you to sign up for his anti-AARP grift. “Better benefits. No liberalism. No age limits.”

  49. 49.

    Suffern ACE

    @shelly: also helps if you can find an accountant to give you a generous valuation on some securities to place in your IRA.

  50. 50.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @shelly:

    It sounds like a coupon you’d use at your local Try-N-Save Tri2Sav.

    Fixed, only because the further you get from actual English, the bettah.

  52. 52.

    Dexter's new approach

    You have to be sit pretty close to be able to throw your hat over the glass, so it’s only an issue for the big buck-seated people. I once saw a guy take off his hat off an put it in his jacket after a player scored two goals.

  54. 54.

    JPL

    @lamh36: The NYTimes has a story up about their meeting..

    “I thanked President Obama for the United States’ work in supporting education in Pakistan and Afghanistan and for Syrian refugees. I also expressed my concerns that drone attacks are fueling terrorism. Innocent victims are killed in these acts, and they lead to resentment among the Pakistani people. If we refocus efforts on education it will make a big impact,” she said.

    link

    also.. she should have won the Nobel Peace Prize

  55. 55.

    dmsilev

    @shelly:

    Sure. And it also helps if you inherited more money that God.

    Well, Joseph was a poor shepherd so in fairness that’s a low bar to cross.

    Though it is amusing to imagine “Financial advice from the Romneys”.
    * How to scrape by during college: Sell off some stock your parents gave you.
    * Increase your home’s value by adding a trendy car elevator
    * Swiss bank accounts for dummies
    etc.

  57. 57.

    Ash Can

    @David Koch:

    Newt Gingrich says the GOP wouldn’t be self immolating if Bill Clinton was president:

    I’d like to see Bill Clinton hit the airwaves this weekend and see how many ways he can say “Fuck you, Newt Gingrich.”

  61. 61.

    KG

    @the Conster: Ol’ Governor Moonbeam is 75, he’ll be 78 within four months of assuming office. That’s 7 years older than Reagan was when he assumed office. That’s probably too old for anything other than an ambassadorship or a hold over seat on the Supreme Court (side note, Jerry Brown on the Supreme Court would be rather fun, if only to see him give Alito an aneurysm).

  62. 62.

    Ash Can

    As for hat tricks, one of my favorite stories is from some years ago, when Tuffy Rhodes went yard on Dwight Gooden three times in one game. After the third homer, the fans in the Wrigley Field bleachers littered the warning track with hats. Tuffy, not being a hockey fan, didn’t understand what the heck was going on until those of his teammates familiar with hockey explained it to him.

  63. 63.

    JPL

    @dogwood: Glad you mentioned it because when I see Tom Friedman’s name, I don’t link. You are right, that was great. Now we know what taxi drivers all over the world eat..

  64. 64.

    piratedan

    @Ash Can: would love to see him sit down on something like Gregory’s show and ask them, why a former speaker, who was removed from office in disgrace, who shut down the government due to personal petulance is given so much credence by network television today and isn’t routinely mocked for the political failure that he is.

  68. 68.

    Elizabelle

    @shelly:

    “Values Voter?” That’s the best name they could come up with?

    It means you’ve passed your sell by date.

    You’re heading towards “rancid.”

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @JPL:

    also.. she should have won the Nobel Peace Prize

    Yep. Any other year, I wouldn’t have had a problem with the anti-Chemical Weapons folks. But I was really hoping the NPP committee would select Malala this year. What a message it would have sent.

  71. 71.

    KG

    @shelly: in all fairness, it wasn’t his monetary inheritance that made him a ton of money, necessarily. It was the fact that his dad was the president of a major automobile company and then the governor of a fairly large state that allowed him do to things like go to Harvard in the early 70s and then have really sweet connections once he decided to start his, ahem, “business” career.

    I mean, I’m sure if I would have been smart enough to have been born with a parent that was governor of California, or who was president of a major corporation, or maybe who had a few thousand acres of land, or something like that… Fuck it, I’d settle for being the (great) grandson of moonshiners or bootleggers, worked out well enough for the Kennedys.

  77. 77.

    Hal

    Chris Hayes just had on an Obama communication director and asked him to be honest, the aca rollout has been a disaster in the past two weeks. Has it? I know there is plenty of traffic and frustrated users of the system, but a total disaster? Not to mention the question was basically Hayes in rhetorical mode. How the hell to you answer a question like that?

  78. 78.

    lamh36

    Man. I’ve always wanted to be in the medical field. for the longest time the dream was to become a doctor, for many reasons that didn’t happen. but back in my pre-med days I was in such awe of Dr Ben Carson. He was the biggest named African American surgeon in th country. I was in awe of his talent and work. well what a difference maturity makes along with finally becoming politically more aware, I am so disappointed in Dr Carson…SMDH. I still respect his accomplishments, but I am no longer and will probably never again be in awe of him. he may still be a great and smart surgeon, but he’s no longer such a “great icon” as he once was to me.

    Ben Carson compares Obamacare to slavery

  80. 80.

    Anne Laurie

    @opiejeanne: Nope, as mentioned above, it’s Michiganders throwing octopi at the Detroit Dead Things. Never could figure out why calamari is so popular in that Midwestern, freshwater state, but it was all over the Greek diners years before becoming a staple at “Italian” chain restaurants!

  82. 82.

    Hal

    @lamh36: +1000 I am so disappointed in Carson. I still appreciate his medical achievements but his political aspirations have changed my opinion of him forever. I pretty much wrote him off after finding out he was a scientist who believes in young earth creationism.

  85. 85.

    Redshift

    @SiubhanDuinne: You don’t have to “use” Twitter to see it. It’s just a web page that’s posted via Twitter. Unless you have an objection to going to twitter.com, you can see it in a browser without anything extra. (If you’re on a mobile device and it asks you if you want to install a Twitter app, just say you want to use the browser.)

  86. 86.

    YoohooCthulhu

    @shelly:

    Retire with six figures?
    Isn’t that…low for Romney? Wouldn’t a typical retirement account (25ish years) be in at least the high 100,000s?

  88. 88.

    Linnaeus

    In Detroit, we also had the Gordie Howe hat trick: a goal, an assist, and a fight in the same game.

  94. 94.

    Stephen

    @Hal: Various rightwing blogs are quoting some DailyMail article saying (based on un-named sources within the govt) that there’s only been about 51,000 people sign up. The usual suspects – just google it. The only TP’er of my acquaintance has been posting FB updates non-stop about the ACA. He’s given up on the Govt default thing.

  97. 97.

    Jay C

    @KG:

    (side note, Jerry Brown on the Supreme Court would be rather fun, if only to see him give Alito an aneurysm).

    And another vacancy for President Obama or President (Hillary) Clinton to fill: win-win!

  100. 100.

    Jay C

    @KG:

    I mean, I’m sure if I would have been smart enough to have been born with a parent that was governor of California,

    Yeah, where MIGHT you be today….??

  101. 101.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Mnemosyne: That would be lovely, but I’m already 71 and by the time Malala turns 80 I would be 135. I guess it’s not altogether impossible, but it seems very unlikely.

  102. 102.

    MikeJ

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    by the time Malala turns 80 I would be 135. I guess it’s not altogether impossible, but it seems very unlikely.

    PROOF THAT OBUMMERCARE IS A FAILURE!

  103. 103.

    Chyron HR

    @Stephen:

    Various rightwing blogs are [saying] there’s only been about 51,000 people sign up.

    You can tell Obamacare is real hardcore America-destroying fascism because of the way you voluntarily sign up for it.

  108. 108.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Chyron HR:

    These are the people who think that National Socialism was actually socialist, you know. They also fervently believe that the Korean Democratic People’s Republic is a democracy.

  110. 110.

    muddy

    @Randy P: I think some people take the stories literally as though they are an anecdote with cute illustrations. I always think it goes so much further. I wore a dinosaur costume for a really long time.

  113. 113.

    marv

    I know from sports a little bit, and saw Gretzky play against the Russians when he was a young man, in 1981 (I think), and he cut quite a figure on the ice, even then, but the only thing I know I about hats is don’t leave one on a bed. Also, in regard to the baseball terminology cited above – about hat tricks and golden sombreros – that may well be true, but I played over a thousand games in the minors and maybe 58 in the big leagues in the 70’s and early 80’s, and the only term I remember, which is maybe the saddest expression for me in all the world, is: o-fer.

  117. 117.

    different-church-lady

    The Gordie Howe hat trick (goal, assist, fight) is well known, but a local radio wag coined “The Nevin Markwart hat trick” for Brad Marchand’s achievement of three minor penalties on the same play during the 2011 finals.

  118. 118.

    JR

    Those hats? They used to give them to orphanages, but then Pat Robertson discovered that gay hockey fans were hiding AIDS needles in the brims. Now they are burned in a tasteful ritual out where the Zamboni dumps the shaved ice.

  119. 119.

    Bruce K

    I knew about the baseball hat trick, but I remember reading when I was a kid that four strikeouts was just a sombrero. You needed to strike out five times to get the golden sombrero. Or did the terminology evolve when I wasn’t looking?

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