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Still waiting for the prosecutor to say something meaningful.

ETA: Christ. Spit it the fuck out, dude. Still waiting.

ETA 2: Seven minutes into a rambling prebuttle, McCullough finally makes the announcement we all saw coming: no indictment.

ETA 3: President Obama is scheduled to speak at 10 PM ET, just a few minutes from now. Will that clown McCullough still be yammering when MSNBC cuts away to the president? Will Fox keep its camera on McCullough? Probably!

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217Comments

  8. 8.

    Pogonip

    Sounds like he’s putting it off as long as he can, maybe in the hope potential rioters will get tired of standing around in the cold and go home.

  11. 11.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    Another vote for no indictment, proving that we now live in a post-racial society. Merka, fuck yeah!

  16. 16.

    guachi

    Not watching it – but basically he’s blaming everyone else for his and the police’s incompetence?

  17. 17.

    mtiffany

    Jesustapdancingchrist I think this asshole is going to tell us that Michael Brown shot himself…

  18. 18.

    PaulW

    he’s trying to set up the grand jury’s investigation. He’s trying to let down whichever side isn’t going to be thrilled if Wilson goes free or gets charged.

    Either way, we’re still screwed. We need a serious reform effort to reduce the lethal use of deadly force, there are too many unarmed citizens getting killed by the people sworn to protect and serve…

  29. 29.

    beltane

    @lamh36: Mubarak also blamed the internet. If people don’t discuss the rottenness of a particular regime, it means the regime isn’t rotten.

  33. 33.

    lamh36

    And there you have it…

    I’ll await my favorite commenters to tell me how fair this grand jury was and how trustful McCullough has been throughout this process

    fuck it all!

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    I despise this man. He’s fueling the fire. He’s called the community people who can’t keep their stories straight.

    He should have recused himself. What a fucking tool.

  39. 39.

    Morzer

    So, what I take from this legalistic cluster-fuck is that white people, self included, need to get off our asses and do a better job of bending the goddamn arc towards justice.

  40. 40.

    pseudonymous in nc

    “Blame Twitter, Facebook and CNN, not municipal segregation and institutional racism.” Got it.

  45. 45.

    trollhattan

    @Comrade Scrutinizer:
    I don’t. I want the bastards who’ve been predicting it for months to be shown wrong, yet again. Not that they’ll bother with self-reflection, but it will be vastly better than a million, “See, I told you so”s.

  46. 46.

    pseudonymous in nc

    I’m sure Darren Wilson will be returning all of his “legal defense fund” any time now, and not keeping it as a bounty, in the spirit it was given.

  48. 48.

    Brendan in Charlotte

    So essentially, it was a Scooby-Doo CYA speech. If it weren’t for you meddling kids and your social media, we could have swept this under the rug right after it happened…

  49. 49.

    ? Martin

    The Grand Jury didn’t need 3 months to reach a verdict, this guy needed it to write his speech.

    I think it’s pretty apparent that there’d be no indictment since it’s legal in Missouri to shoot an unarmed person running from police. The problem isn’t the courts, it’s the legislature.

  50. 50.

    Morzer

    @pseudonymous in nc:

    So, in sum, Mark Zuckerberg murdered Michael Brown, rather than the worthless thug Darren Wilson who actually, you know, pulled the trigger. Truly, we live in an age of exceeding peculiar institutions.

  51. 51.

    MikeBoyScout

    Michael Brown acquitted of possession of Skittles, but guilty of cigarillos – DA’s thinking

  52. 52.

    JordanRules

    Damnet. It would have been nice to believe justice could be possibly, somehow served – ya know, hope, some hope. A little. But I never had any and it feels like that could be tinder.

  53. 53.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    NickBaumann @ NickBaumann · 7m 7 minutes ago
    BREAKING: McCulloch announces he has indicted numerous straw men for the killing of Michael Brown.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    McCullough sounded more like the defense attorney for Darren Wilson, but hey, the system is fair and balanced and has spoken so…

    This delay was orchestrated to give the Grand Jury time to get out of town.

    Guess now Darren Wilson can get ready for his closeup with Fox

  57. 57.

    Timurid

    So this guy is going to stand up and pretty much give a summation for the defense of Wilson and/or prosecution of Brown? “The grand jury chose not to indict. End of line” was not good enough?

  58. 58.

    Rob

    “Physical evidence remains constant and as such is a solid foundation” …
    when it’s under control of the police of course.

  61. 61.

    catatonia

    The gravelly voice of this guy is, I suppose, intended to give his mendacious and self-serving statement gravitas.

    Was there an audition?

  63. 63.

    skerry

    Gabriel Roth ‏@gabrielroth
    if only our society had some kind of mechanism whereby evidence of culpability could be weighed, oh well

  64. 64.

    Elizabelle

    @Rob: prezactly.

    I am white and in Virginia and I’m ready to turn out and riot over this. It’s insulting.

    The community lies and does not understand “physical evidence.” Which can be manipulated.

  65. 65.

    Linnaeus

    Funny, normally prosecutors are pretty zealous to put a suspect on trial. What could be the difference here? Hmmm…

  67. 67.

    The Dangerman

    Surprised? No.

    Sad? Yes. If there was ever a case that needed to go to a public trial, it was this one (since I assume the GJ transcripts will likely remain sealed).

  68. 68.

    geg6

    I’ve never been so ashamed to be a white person. Again. The past few years have just shown me that, regardless of how much progress I might think we may have made in racial issues, white people simply can’t evolve. We suck and I wish so much that we didn’t.

  70. 70.

    Punchy

    Why is everyone so seemingly surprised? Think Nixon brought in the Nat’l Guard to control a Guilty Verdict Parade? This verdict was telegraphed the minute the gubbnah went all emergency whatevs.

  72. 72.

    Botsplainer

    Less temperate people would be saying something along the lines of “fuck Gandhi – let’s see if a riot helmet stops a .30-06 round sent from a rooftop 3 blocks away.”

    Police and prosecutors are lucky that American people of color are so inexplicably docile.

  73. 73.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @lamh36: I am guessing that comment is at least partly aimed at me. But you should know that I never said that the grand jury was fair or that McCulloch was trustworthy. I said wait for the decision and that I would be utterly outraged if the result you were predicting came to pass. It did and I am outraged. I’ll leave it at that because all our emotions are running high.

  75. 75.

    Baud

    If I were the State of Missouri, I would never use another witness in a criminal trial again. They sound awful.

  76. 76.

    Morzer

    @geg6:

    Well, comrade white person, I reckon that the white community needs to pull its pants up yesterday, because as a group we’ve spent far too much of the last 40 years showing America our collective fat asses and I believe the rest of the nation is just a little weary of the sight.

  77. 77.

    Elizabelle

    Why do we need eyewitnesses at all, prosecutor? Isn’t it all “physical evidence.” Collected, curated and corralled by the police.

  81. 81.

    Mnemosyne

    @TaMara (BHF):

    Nope. Pissed off, but not surprised.

    And now I’m sure we’ll get tons of interviews with the grand jurors who are shocked, simply shocked that people would think they did a crappy job. I remember an interview with one of the Rodney King jurors of the original trial (where all the cops were acquitted) who was genuinely totally clueless that, hey, maybe people would be pissed off about cops getting away with beating an unarmed man half to death. Who’da thunk it?

  85. 85.

    Lolis

    White people really refuse to acknowledge/change their own prejudices, and more people of color will continue to die because of it.

  88. 88.

    mai naem

    Basically Mike Brown and Darrell Wilson both needed those Go-Cameras on them for McCullouch to have Wilson indicted. I hope defense attorneys use these new standards.

  89. 89.

    Mnemosyne

    @Karen in GA:

    Guilty conscience, or at least a niggling realization that he has now exposed himself as a corrupt asshole to most of the English-speaking world (and probably a lot of non-English-speaking press as well).

    Seriously, this has been getting BBC World coverage, so it’s not like knowledge of his actions is going to stay within the boundaries of St. Louis County like they would have in the old days. Hence the blaming of the internet rather than the cop who shot an unarmed man dead.

  90. 90.

    Heliopause

    McCulloch didn’t try especially hard to hide where his sympathies lie, did he?

    Wow. I mean, he could have simply said, “no indictment, good night.” Instead of litigating his desired result.

  93. 93.

    Elizabelle

    This is not justice. It’s appalling. Don’t wrap yourself in the mantle of justice.

    The world sees.

  97. 97.

    rikyrah

    OF COURSE, there’s no indictment. We knew there would be no indictment. So, all of those who patronized me and lamh, poo-poohing us when we said weeks ago that there would be no indictment…

    uh huh

    uh huh

  100. 100.

    catatonia

    This gravelly-voice functionary has the nerve to talk about “political expediency,” when this whole case is about expediency: the expediency characterized by Darren Wilson shooting first and asking questions … well, never.

  101. 101.

    pseudonymous in nc

    If there’s no probable fucking cause, you don’t need to make a fucking 45+ minute speech.

  103. 103.

    mouse tolliver

    Remember when Winona Ryder shoplifted $5,000 worth of designer clothes from Saks Fifth Avenue? Good thing she’s not black. She could’ve been shot dead right on the spot.

  105. 105.

    ItAintEazy

    If there were no indictments in the Ohio Wal-mart shooting (cameras, prank call, and all), then there wasn’t going to be an indictment here.

  106. 106.

    Linnaeus

    I told my mother back in August that I would not be surprised if there were no trial (though I thought there was a decent chance there would be). My mom said, “Oh, I would be surprised.” Dinner on Christmas Eve is going to be….interesting.

  107. 107.

    Couldn't Stand the Weather

    @geg6:

    I’ve never been so ashamed to be a white person. Again. The past few years have just shown me that, regardless of how much progress I might think we may have made in racial issues, white people simply can’t evolve. We suck and I wish so much that we didn’t.

    Thing is, it is not even the majority of white people. Just enough to fill a grand jury in Missouri.

  108. 108.

    Elizabelle

    Reporter asked if there would be perjury charges against some of the witnesses.

    Cannot decide if that was meant ironically.

    The Grand Jury gave up their lives on this. Gave up their lives.

    This man has a tin ear.

  112. 112.

    beltane

    It’s on the front page of just about every European newspaper website. Maybe the reason we are looked down on is that we, as a nation, insist on slithering in the mud.

  117. 117.

    Nashville_fan

    The smugness is suffocating. Seriously. He is most infatuated with the sound of his own voice. The tips for the protestors at the end was the very best part, followed closely by the cold and detailed description of Michael Brown’s wounds.

    The fact that the entire state has known what the verdict would be and the clownish boarding of windows and military police presence just reinforces the point that the leaders of this community think that the problem is folks protesting the death penalty being casually administered over stolen cigarillos in broad daylight in front of several witnesses (all of whom were apparently suffering from a mass delusion), instead of officers using deadly force in non-deadly situations.

    But I’m not bitter. This is just every day life for us “blacks”. On to the next.

  118. 118.

    lamh36

    @Omnes Omnibus: as you say emotions are running high.

    But it was more than just “wait for the decision” commentary from some that I am talking about.

    I get it, for some the need to believe that the “system” works is strong, but the history of US justice vis a vis Black victims (especially males) proves(ed) otherwise.

    The assumption was that people like me were going on emotion alone rather than the cold hard history of this type of thing in the USA.

    The system rarely works for Black folk…period.

    But as you say emotions are high, so as I said before, I’m going to go and hug my 16 year old nephew and hopefully try to feel better when my he’s out and about “walking” while Black

  120. 120.

    The Red Pen

    They’re releasing some of the evidence and testimony. I’m sure that we’ll be hearing a lot about countertops.

  122. 122.

    Couldn't Stand the Weather

    @mouse tolliver:

    Remember when Winona Ryder shoplifted $5,000 worth of designer clothes from Saks Fifth Avenue? Good thing she’s not black. She could’ve been shot dead right on the spot.

    I remember that. She was using prescription drugs, as well, as I recall.

  123. 123.

    catatonia

    I’m a white middle-aged guy and at times I get sick of the bashing of my demographic that I read on the net …

    And then shit like this happens and I find it hard to get so angry about it.

    Of course I’ve always been a loner and have never defined myself as a white hetero. I define myself as an insignificant nonentity of such extraordinary scope that it transcends all demographic categorizations.

  124. 124.

    MomSense

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    And now the “journalists” are asking questions. One of them wanted to know if any of the black jurors testified that Mike Brown was charging the officer.

    This is BS.

  126. 126.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @ItAintEazy: Yup.

    The laws are such that it’s very, very difficult to prosecute police for killing people. The laws need to be changed, and people in executive positions in government that oversee police need to understand that this is no-longer acceptable in what we claim is a civilized society.

    I’m not holding my breath, though.

    :-(

    It really is a sad day.

    I assume the only hope for getting some sort of justice is via a civil suit. And I expect that to be very difficult as well. (IANAL)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  128. 128.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @raven: At some point, I probably will. But to me, multiple shots at a distance should have been enough for probable cause to take a case to trial. The rest is important for being able to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

  132. 132.

    geg6

    I am just so weary of this! And because I know that’s what they want me to feel, I have this simmering anger that just has me feeling like I could explode any second. I simply can’t imagine what people of color are feeling right now. I’m not at all surprised by this grand jury decision. I had no faith in McCulloch from the start and I can’t even say that it’s about Missouri, because the same kind of things happen here all the time. Maybe not as horrifying or blatantly racist, but the result is the same. The only two cases here where it was a black victim accusing cops of targeting them due to race that even had mildly satisfying outcomes happened only because the victims lived, albeit one with a brain injury and the other as a paraplegic. I should take hope in those cases, but it’s just not enough to feel justice gets done.

  133. 133.

    ? Martin

    From 538:

    In 2010, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases. Grand juries declined to indict in 11 of them.

    I’d say two tragedies are revealed by that statistic.

  136. 136.

    Kryptik, A Man Without a Country

    @raven:

    Gah, dammit. It was working for me before.. Let me see if I can find a non-protected version.

  139. 139.

    pseudonymous in nc

    Impunity? Fuck me. This has been the Impunity Hour, brought to you from St Louis, Missouri and showing on repeat in far too many places.

  142. 142.

    JordanRules

    @Omnes Omnibus: See! And I needed that common sense reminder because I’m questioning everything I know about our system (from a IANAL but an informed citizen standpoint). Why not a trial? I just don’t get it.

  143. 143.

    Morzer

    @Betty Cracker:

    If the reaction to that speech is half as ugly as the reaction to his speech on Trayvon Martin, I think we are all going to see far more of America’s rancid racist underbelly than we ever wanted.

  144. 144.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @lamh36:

    The assumption was that people like me were going on emotion alone rather than the cold hard history of this type of thing in the USA.

    If in any way I ever gave the impression that I thought that, I sincerely apologize.

  146. 146.

    beltane

    @? Martin: That statistic shows that it is extraordinarily easy for a prosecutor to get an indictment and that a grand jury is basically a rubber stamp for the prosecution. Perhaps it’s just time to admit that our system is fundamentally broken, an antiquated relic of the middle ages.

  147. 147.

    lamh36

    @Betty Cracker: Good at least that means McCullough will shut da fuck up.

    As you said though, NOTHING Obama says aside from a DOJ investigation of McCullough, Ferguson PD and STL County PD will do anything.

    I can guarantee you that whatever he says will NOT be enogh.

  151. 151.

    Couldn't Stand the Weather

    I’m gonna take a second to mention the timing of this announcement.

    Three days before Thanksgiving, with inclement weather on the way for much of the Eastern seaboard.

    Having said that, I truly am sick of watching shit like this. I remember far too many similar killings over the last few years. I hope the protestors in Missouri are smart. The law enforcement in the state probably needs VERY little encouragement to do something drastic at this point.

  152. 152.

    Lurking Canadian

    Holy shit. People have been saying “no indictment”, but…fuck, he shot an unarmed kid in broad daylight in front of witnesses. Seriously, he doesn’t need to present a defense? Once again, my view is reinforced that any black person who goes through a day without rioting deserves a good behaviour medal.

  155. 155.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Morzer:

    I will also guarantee you that whatever he says will be too much for a large number of older white people.

    You mean the ones who are the same age Emmett Till would be today?

    Yeah, Faulkner was right: the past isn’t over, it’s not even past.

  156. 156.

    Mnemosyne

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    My cynical answer: they didn’t bring it to trial because they knew a St. Louis jury would automatically acquit the cop and we’d be back at square one. So why not cut to the chase and not have a trial at all?

  160. 160.

    Elizabelle

    That was the most insulting press conference I have ever seen. The contempt that prosecutor has for the community was so clear. Trust the physical evidence — you cannot believe a thing these human witnesses have to say.

  161. 161.

    lamh36

    40s ago
    What a coincidence that the leaks perfectly mapped the prosecutor’s talking points. Wonder who leaked??

  162. 162.

    beth

    MSNBC showing crowd attacking a police car. Cops respond with guns drawn. I have a bad feeling about tonight.

  163. 163.

    Omnes Omnibus

    MSNBC is focusing on a small number of protestors who are fucking up a cop car, not the larger number who are doing nothing of the kind. Great.

  168. 168.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Elizabelle:

    Trust the physical evidence — you cannot believe a thing these human witnesses have to say.

    “Start by believing” has been the statement that’s echoed across the year. Believe women. Believe minorities. That is too hard when your position and your privilege depends on disbelief.

  169. 169.

    KG

    @Uncle Ebeneezer: depends on the law in Missouri, specifically when it comes to immunity for law enforcement. It is not typically absolute, but usually there’s an early procedural process to determine if it applies

  170. 170.

    Nellie in NZ

    This is being covered live here in New Zealand. The death, by police, of a 12 year old yesterday was front page news. I’m being asked if it is safe to travel to the US. Kiwis travel internationally more than most any other people, but few go to the States any more.

  172. 172.

    Linnaeus

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The Brown family is handling this with a great deal of grace.

    Sadly, they have to, because they won’t be allowed a public expression of hurt or anger over this.

  175. 175.

    pseudonymous in nc

    White cops lauding it over black communities – don’t feel like you’re getting paid enough? The door has been opened for you to make a tidy profit.

  178. 178.

    lamh36

    @Linnaeus: exactly. the Brown family has been gracious this entire process. Same as Trayvon Martin’s family. Same as the unarmed Black kid who was killed before that. Same as before that, same as before that.

    It’s cyclical. Black folk have ALWAYS have to appear “graceful” in the face of outright racism and hatred.

    @RevrendDoctor 35m35 minutes ago
    Over a cigarillo; over a toy gun; over a darkened hallway; over loud music; over skittles and iced tea; over a wallet, we can be killed.

  180. 180.

    beltane

    @Nellie in NZ: While relatively unsafe compared to the rest of the developed world, the USA isn’t a terribly dangerous place for white people who at least enjoy the protection of the law.

  181. 181.

    planetjanet

    One thing that puzzles me is the instructions to the jury on the law included the right of anyone in Missouri to defend himself. So, did Darren Wilson stand his ground. All he had to do was say he was afraid for his life and so he can simply kill?

  182. 182.

    Elizabelle

    @Nellie in NZ:

    I’m being asked if it is safe to travel to the US. Kiwis travel internationally more than most any other people, but few go to the States any more.

    Money talks. If enough people stop visiting Florida with Stand your Ground, and Missouri …

    Kiwis rock.

  185. 185.

    Elizabelle

    PBO asking for “peaceful protests. To repeat Michael Brown’s father’s words:

    Hurting others or destroying property is not the answer. No matter what the GJ decides” … he wants his son’s death to lead to change, not to be remembered for riots.

  188. 188.

    catatonia

    @mattH:
    well that would be a good thing to calm people down, n’ces pas?

    Course, the hulking negro has THC in his system when he dared to walk down the street in front of the Heroic Darren. Or at least that’s the last I read….

    Meanwhile, this looks like it could get ugly in MO. Or maybe that’s just selective media coverage, even MSNBC. Maybe it should get ugly. Or maybe that would be counterproductive. I don’t know.

  191. 191.

    Morzer

    Well, today showed us yet again that the white police still have their concerned citizens charter to murder with impunity. The same charter that enables white men to stand their ground wherever the racist bastards feel like it.

    Heckuva job, Neoconfederates.

    The delighted squealing from the GOP trollarium is going to be something to behold.

  193. 193.

    beltane

    @efgoldman: I’m like you. Most of this country carries a travel advisory as far as I’m concerned. There is nothing out there I want to see that’s worth being surrounded by hateful heavily armed lunatics.

  194. 194.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @raven: I might, but I believe the sheer number of shots fired would suffice as probable cause to indict, and that’s what I would have argued when I was a prosecutor, no matter how unpopular it would have made me with local LEOs. In fact, I told them as much in a similar police shooting here. Unarmed male black, fatally shot. I was not presenting to the grand jury, since I worked for a different office, and a special prosecutor was hired for the misdemeanor trail. It was 14 years ago and I can’t recall if the county engaged a special prosecutor to present.

  196. 196.

    Tree With Water

    “..The laws are such that it’s very, very difficult to prosecute police for killing people. The laws need to be changed..”.

    Yup. For starters, an automatic review by a constituted federal authority of any-and-all police shootings anywhere in the country could and should be instituted.

    For the love of God, motherhood, and apple pies, we’re talking about a state that recently enshrined Rush Limbaugh in it’s official pantheon of great Missourians.

  198. 198.

    Provider_UNE_AndPlayersToBeHatedLater™

    @efgoldman: ok, have a cookie must have a meaning i was unaware of, and black dude here, and snark metering needs adjustmemt and apparently i am unaware of some internet traditions.

    Click my handle will take you to sadly no and my preperatory post for this frustration. Again, midwestern black male writing here.
    …

  199. 199.

    rikyrah

    @lamh36:

    It’s cyclical. Black folk have ALWAYS have to appear “graceful” in the face of outright racism and hatred.

    dropping all kinds of truths tonight, lamh.

  201. 201.

    mattH

    @catatonia: See, that’s the deal, I know MJ mellows you out, and the pissed off angry people he was reporting on aren’t smoking it, but god, he just HAD to point that out right after he talked about the “rioters”, the only context and pretext he had to mention it. It was almost a throwaway line, tossed in just before they went to the President’s address, but he HAD to fit it in before they left him. Aka “they are all just damn dirty lawbreakers, what do you expect”.

  203. 203.

    Mike in NC

    @Nellie in NZ: Our next door neighbors have very good friends in NZ. They’re planning to meet up with them in Italy in March for a cruise, sort of splitting the difference as it were. We met quite a few nice people from Australia and New Zealand on our recent Baltic Sea cruise, and they generally need to take 3-4 weeks off due to the distances involved.

  204. 204.

    p.a.

    Pissed about the non-indictment,and pissed because the non-indictment was so predictable. People will say the cops are getting out of control, but for minorities I’m not sure conditions are any worse than in the past; thanks to new media we’re just more aware of how minorities have always fared when faced with state power.

  205. 205.

    catatonia

    I’m glad we’ve got a black guy as president right now. I’ve never been glad that Obama’s president because he’s black; I was glad he was president because he’d goddamn smart and decent and well-rounded and not a goddamn phony. But I hate that I have to say I’m glad Obama’s president tonight because he’s of color. That fucking shouldn’t matter. But it does, not because of the KKK or even the Beauregard Sessions of the world. It’s because of the McCullochs of the world

  208. 208.

    Provider_UNE_AndPlayersToBeHatedLater™

    @Morzer: so commenting on a person triumphant that he or she was right all along about this outcome, in what i thought a childish fashion is beyond the pale?
    Check.

    Being told to fuck oneself on the one hand and told to totter off to a racist enclave because i am a racist is hunky dory?
    Check.

    I will think about it.
    …

  209. 209.

    catatonia

    @mattH:

    oh, I know that… the media meme is the darkies are smoking it up and since they’re uncivilized generally, if you mix in weed with the aboriginal, then you get either a) masses of rapacious rioters (whenever there’s politics involved) or b) ignorant layabout libertines (if its economics)

  210. 210.

    Mnemosyne

    @Provider_UNE_AndPlayersToBeHatedLater™:

    so commenting on a person triumphant that he or she was right all along about this outcome, in what i thought a childish fashion is beyond the pale?

    So I’m guessing that you thought there would be a different outcome, since it was “childish” for a black woman to say that she had been telling us for months that this would be the outcome?

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    Provider_UNE_AndPlayersToBeHatedLater™

    @Mnemosyne: was unaware of the race of the original commenter, though was aprised of the race of the person to whom she referred.

    I retract any previous sugestion of childish behavior on her part and retract the original comment altogether with apologies to any offended.

    Looks like i stepped inadvertantly into a pile…

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    dance around in your bones

    @mtiffany:

    Jesustapdancingchrist I think this asshole is going to tell us that Michael Brown shot himself…

    I thought you said Jesus lap dancing christ and that made laugh. And, of course Michael Brown shot himself – he was blackity blackity blackiyt black, no?

    You never know WHAT those people are going to get up to!

    /snark off

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    Cpl Cam

    @Baud: They are awful and when you couple that with the countless black men who have spent their entire adult lives behind bars based on eye witness “accounts” well, the rage engulfing Ferguson now is rather understandable…

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    Mnemosyne

    @Provider_UNE_AndPlayersToBeHatedLater™:

    Here’s the problem sometimes with jumping in on an unfamiliar website: rikyrah is the one who brings stories from the black blogosphere over to this blog, where most of us white folks would otherwise be unfamiliar with the stories because they don’t generally make it into the MSM. She has been attacked for this in the past by racist assholes. When you jumped in the way you did, it sounded like you were yet another of those racist assholes popping up to attack her once again (when John banhammers them, they usually pop up a few months later under a new nym). So people responded accordingly, which I can now see probably seemed really strange and out of proportion to someone who didn’t know that history and thought he was just snarking.

    We all live and learn.

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